Upgrading from 4.0.4.to 4.1.2 - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I have a question.
My friend has this Galaxy S2(I9100) with stock 4.0.4 ROM and after seeing my phone with Jelly Bean official from Samsung he wants to update hired phone too.
But since the 4.0.4 has that brick bug or so he is afraid to flash it through Odin.
Also can he flash the new 4.1.2 firmware without wiping. Will all his apps be there and is it recommended top do it that way.
Thanks all.
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New official jb will not wipe your data. I came from ics too (cm10.1 > ics > jb)
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kunterk said:
New official jb will not wipe your data. I came from ics too (cm10.1 > ics > jb)
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Check got brickbug app from playstore first.
If it is sane, flash it thru odin / mobile odin.
If it isn't, flash siyah and then flash 4.1.2.

I am in the same position but I have the insane chip. When I read the Siyah post the first thing it says is that it can only be used on JB not ics so is it safe to flash it on ics 4.0.4 before flashing 4.1.2 via odin as it says above?
Thanks
Jez

gastonw said:
Check got brickbug app from playstore first.
If it is sane, flash it thru odin / mobile odin.
If it isn't, flash siyah and then flash 4.1.2.
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Dude, it doesnt make a single difference if he has the sane chip or not and flashing Siyah before flashing his rom via ODIN is completely and utterley pointless since its replaced when flashing via odin. The brickbug is part of stock recovery and since he wont be entering 4.0.4 recovery at any point and flashing via ODIN he has no need to worry about it.
jezebabe said:
I am in the same position but I have the insane chip. When I read the Siyah post the first thing it says is that it can only be used on JB not ics so is it safe to flash it on ics 4.0.4 before flashing 4.1.2 via odin as it says above?
Thanks
Jez
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Ignore what was said earlier.
If you want to flash without wiping and keep apps/appdata then simply....
Reboot into download mode
Flash stock rom (.md5 or .tar)
Reboot into download again and flash Siyah v6 beta4 or above
You have no need to worry about brickbug. Only time it would affect you is if you was booting into stock 4.0.4 recovery and you have no need to do that at all.

TheATHEiST said:
Dude, it doesnt make a single difference if he has the sane chip or not and flashing Siyah before flashing his rom via ODIN is completely and utterley pointless since its replaced when flashing via odin. The brickbug is part of stock recovery and since he wont be entering 4.0.4 recovery at any point and flashing via ODIN he has no need to worry about it.
Ignore what was said earlier.
If you want to flash without wiping and keep apps/appdata then simply....
Reboot into download mode
Flash stock rom (.md5 or .tar)
Reboot into download again and flash Siyah v6 beta4 or above
You have no need to worry about brickbug. Only time it would affect you is if you was booting into stock 4.0.4 recovery and you have no need to do that at all.
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Thanks for the information. Presumably I don't have to do the last step unless I want Siyah kernel.
Jez

jezebabe said:
Thanks for the information. Presumably I don't have to do the last step unless I want Siyah kernel.
Jez
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Its not just about having the kernel its also about having root and cwm recovery.

I flashed Siyah kernel first than the XWLS8 4.1.2 all through Odin and everything is working as it should.
Thanks for the infos.
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TheATHEiST said:
Dude, it doesnt make a single difference if he has the sane chip or not and flashing Siyah before flashing his rom via ODIN is completely and utterley pointless since its replaced when flashing via odin. The brickbug is part of stock recovery and since he wont be entering 4.0.4 recovery at any point and flashing via ODIN he has no need to worry about it.
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Didn't you noticed that lots of people just love wipping data?
You gotta lay it out for them, so they can play it safe. I know you don't enjoy people bricking their devices.
You really need to remember when you first started flashing phones...and be more emphatic.
Bricking fear..is motivation here.
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agonn said:
I flashed Siyah kernel first than the XWLS8 4.1.2 all through Odin and everything is working as it should.
Thanks for the infos.
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Good to hear
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Can I upload from 4.0.3 (with cf-root) to 4.04?

Hi.
I have on my Galaxy S2 the stock ICS 4.0.3 (XWLP7) with CF-root kernel 5.4. I would like now to upload the phone with ICS 4.0.4 (XWLPU). Can I do it now like always with Odin or should I do first something else with my phone (wipe etc.)?
Thanks in advice
You can do it either way, I prefer doing it via CWM recovery.
To avoid BrickBug flash latest Siyah Kernel first (v4.1.2) before you do any wipe operations.
Then do a full wipe and flash desired rom.
rugolt said:
You can do it either way, I prefer doing it via CWM recovery.
To avoid BrickBug flash latest Siyah Kernel first (v4.1.2) before you do any wipe operations.
Then do a full wipe and flash desired rom.
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I agree but personally would format system as well prior to flashing.
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teslax said:
Hi.
I have on my Galaxy S2 the stock ICS 4.0.3 (XWLP7) with CF-root kernel 5.4. I would like now to upload the phone with ICS 4.0.4 (XWLPU). Can I do it now like always with Odin or should I do first something else with my phone (wipe etc.)?
Thanks in advice
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dwnld the 4.0.4 firmware and flash the same using ODIN since ur upgrading from a stock rom to another one it will not be an issue, but after flashing 4.0.4 u have to re-root your phone, since stock XWLPU 4.0.4 will automatically unroot ur phone
teslax said:
Hi.
I have on my Galaxy S2 the stock ICS 4.0.3 (XWLP7) with CF-root kernel 5.4. I would like now to upload the phone with ICS 4.0.4 (XWLPU). Can I do it now like always with Odin or should I do first something else with my phone (wipe etc.)?
Thanks in advice
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You can just upgrade using Odin, no problem.
Note:
-once you upgrade to 4.0.4, then say goodbye to CF-ROOT kernel.
-Just flash a custom kernel like Siyah, speedmod, Dorimanx, Dream at once.
Why?
-Because stock ICS 4.0.4 kernel has a brick bug enabled on it.
-This bug is also present on all kernels based on stock 4.0.4 kernel. CF-ROOT and all insecure kernels fall into this category
What will happen?
-If after rooting your phone after upgrading to 4.0.4, and you wipe your phone or try ROM backup while running stock/stock based kernels then say goodbye to your phone.
You have been warned
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
You can just upgrade using Odin, no problem.
Note:
-once you upgrade to 4.0.4, then say goodbye to CF-ROOT kernel.
-Just flash a custom kernel like Siyah, speedmod, Dorimanx, Dream at once.
Why?
-Because stock ICS 4.0.4 kernel has a brick bug enabled on it.
-This bug is also present on all kernels based on stock 4.0.4 kernel. CF-ROOT and all insecure kernels fall into this category
What will happen?
-If after rooting your phone after upgrading to 4.0.4, and you wipe your phone or try ROM backup while running stock/stock based kernels then say goodbye to your phone.
You have been warned
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII
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:laugh: dude dont try to terrify that poor chap, its only the stock kernel of 4.0.4 firmware which is the culprit, not the CF-root kernel's for ur info
Sun90 said:
:laugh: dude dont try to terrify that poor chap, its only the stock kernel of 4.0.4 firmware which is the culprit, not the CF-root kernel's for ur info
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but CF-ROOT just bricked two phones yesterday. I believe you know about this too
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CWM recovery
rugolt said:
You can do it either way, I prefer doing it via CWM recovery.
To avoid BrickBug flash latest Siyah Kernel first (v4.1.2) before you do any wipe operations.
Then do a full wipe and flash desired rom.
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Hi. Thanks for your answear. But I would like to know how should I do it, step by step. I have download it the Sizah kernel 4.12.
1. enter the CWM recovery mode and install the Siyah kernel (install ZIP from external card)
2. reboot the phone or?
3. enter CWM recovery mode again: hold down the volume up button,home button and power button.
4. in CWM recovery I have to choose the wipe data/factory reset
5. after wipe phone reboot
6. enter the Download mode and install the new ROM with Odin
Why should I install the siyah kernel? I still have the cf-root kernel (my phone is rooted).
After upload the new ICS 4.0.4 if I wanna root my phone, I should make the root with Siyah kernel via Odin or? Do you think the Siah kernel is better from CF-root kernel?
Thanks
I thought the brick bug has been taken care of in the latest CF kernels
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Jokesy said:
but CF-ROOT just bricked two phones yesterday. I believe you know about this too
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII
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that was not because of cf-root kernel's ma8 since they r tweaked stock kernel's with EMMC_cap (Brick Bug) removed , hence there would be no problem, as i have used one two days back to root a friends phone which was on stock 4.0.4 LPT firmware without any issues
the brick might be caused by the wrong CF-root being choosen like the one's marked with * that people might have dwnld'd without properly reading why it has been * rd.
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teslax said:
Hi. Thanks for your answear. But I would like to know how should I do it, step by step. I have download it the Sizah kernel 4.12.
1. enter the CWM recovery mode and install the Siyah kernel (install ZIP from external card)
2. reboot the phone or?
3. enter CWM recovery mode again: hold down the volume up button,home button and power button.
4. in CWM recovery I have to choose the wipe data/factory reset
5. after wipe phone reboot
6. enter the Download mode and install the new ROM with Odin
Why should I install the siyah kernel? I still have the cf-root kernel (my phone is rooted).
After upload the new ICS 4.0.4 if I wanna root my phone, I should make the root with Siyah kernel via Odin or? Do you think the Siah kernel is better from CF-root kernel?
Thanks
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after upgrading to 4.0.4, simply flash the .tar file of siyah kernel v4.1.2 ( not the .zip file) from odin, it will root ur stock 4.0.4 rom for u and install the latest CWM recovery for u
Jokesy said:
You can just upgrade using Odin, no problem.
Note:
-once you upgrade to 4.0.4, then say goodbye to CF-ROOT kernel.
-Just flash a custom kernel like Siyah, speedmod, Dorimanx, Dream at once.
Why?
-Because stock ICS 4.0.4 kernel has a brick bug enabled on it.
-This bug is also present on all kernels based on stock 4.0.4 kernel. CF-ROOT and all insecure kernels fall into this category
What will happen?
-If after rooting your phone after upgrading to 4.0.4, and you wipe your phone or try ROM backup while running stock/stock based kernels then say goodbye to your phone.
You have been warned
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII
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OK friend.
So you think is better that I update from rooted ICS 4.0.3 to ICS 4.0.4 with Odin without CWM recovery. It sounds good to me.
After update I should install the new Siyah kernel via Odin too. And then I can do the factory reset or?
Thanks
ares05 said:
I thought the brick bug has been taken care of in the latest CF kernels
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I had the same feelings two until yesterday,
Two different guys, running Wanamlite LPU ICS 4.0.4 ROM with CF-ROOT kernel (the Rom's default kernel), hardbricked their phones after wiping data in recovery while trying to flash another ROM.
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII
Sun90 said:
that was not because of cf-root kernel's ma8 since they r tweaked stock kernel's with EMMC_cap (Brick Bug) removed , hence there would be no problem, as i have used one two days back to root a friends phone which was on stock 4.0.4 LPT firmware without any issues
the brick might be caused by the wrong CF-root being choosen like the one's marked with * that people might have dwnld'd without properly reading why it has been * rd.
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after upgrading to 4.0.4, simply flash the .tar file of siyah kernel v4.1.2 ( not the .zip file) from odin, it will root ur stock 4.0.4 rom for u and install the latest CWM recovery for u
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Thanks mate.
The CWM recovery I can install just over ROM Manager or? And tell me please can I do factory reset after install of the new Siyah kernel?
Thanks
teslax said:
Thanks mate.
The CWM recovery I can install just over ROM Manager or? And tell me please can I do factory reset after install of the new Siyah kernel?
Thanks
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1. Stay away from ROM manager, CWM recovery is already bundled with Siyah kernel
2. You can safely do factory reset with Siyah.
Swyped from Samsung Galaxy SII

kernel flash ok but not rom

Hi I am able to flash the kernel but unable to flash any rom including stock. it stops at either factoryfs.img or cache.
Every thing started after I tried to root the official ICS update by installing a kernel Siyah-v3.4.2-nomswap-I777. help appreciated in geeting back to a stock rom
denguta said:
Hi I am able to flash the kernel but unable to flash any rom including stock. it stops at either factoryfs.img or cache.
Every thing started after I tried to root the official ICS update by installing a kernel Siyah-v3.4.2-nomswap-I777. help appreciated in geeting back to a stock rom
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More info please? What phone? Have you tried a new download?
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122ninjas said:
More info please? What phone? Have you tried a new download?
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Samsung galaxy S2 AT T.
Prior to this had official unrooted ICS update.
denguta said:
Samsung galaxy S2 AT T.
Prior to this had official unrooted ICS update.
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Pull out your battery and CONFIRM what is says for the model number of your phone. This will confirm or deny that you have the i777 Samsung Galaxy S2.
IF it has a model number of i727 which is also, kind of, sort of, a ATT samsung galaxy s2 but is considered the " Skyrocket". So PLEASE before going any further check it out before you get flamed here if you get help and you don't have the i777.
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RockRatt said:
Pull out your battery and CONFIRM what is says for the model number of your phone. This will confirm or deny that you have the i777 Samsung Galaxy S2.
IF it has a model number of i727 which is also, kind of, sort of, a ATT samsung galaxy s2 but is considered the " Skyrocket". So PLEASE before going any further check it out before you get flamed here if you get help and you don't have the i777.
Sent from My SGH-I777 Running UCLE5 SANGRE AZUL 2 Rom
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SGH-I777 confirmed
denguta said:
SGH-I777 confirmed
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Have you tried redownloading the file?
OK so I'm confused. What ROM were u on before trying this. Are u saying u were ON stock ICS and wanted to root it, or that u were trying to install stock ICS ? U can use kies to install stock ICS were u trying to flash the Odin flashable file or....more info plz
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Phalanx7621 said:
OK so I'm confused. What ROM were u on before trying this. Are u saying u were ON stock ICS and wanted to root it, or that u were trying to install stock ICS ? U can use kies to install stock ICS were u trying to flash the Odin flashable file or....more info plz
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I was on stock ICS. I wanted to root.
Then i flashed the siyah kernel, after that the phone booted with just samsung logo
I tried flashing a stock rom but it fails, it just halts. However installing a kernel through odin is successful.
Even kies fails to install the stock rom, it downloads the firmware but nothing installs.
denguta said:
I was on stock ICS. I wanted to root.
Then i flashed the siyah kernel, after that the phone booted with just samsung logo
I tried flashing a stock rom but it fails, it just halts. However installing a kernel through odin is successful.
Even kies fails to install the stock rom, it downloads the firmware but nothing installs.
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U tried to flash siyah kernel with Odin?
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denguta said:
Hi I am able to flash the kernel but unable to flash any rom including stock. it stops at either factoryfs.img or cache.
Every thing started after I tried to root the official ICS update by installing a kernel Siyah-v3.4.2-nomswap-I777. help appreciated in geeting back to a stock rom
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Trying to gain root via installing another custom kernel is NOT the way to go, in fact, it's not the right way and AFAIK, it's not gonna work.
So, it was stock ICS and you want to .......... what? just root? or intend to install a custom firmware?
Either case,
FIRSTLY, rooting. Read the stickies, there are links to instructions how to root (per ROM version)
SECONDLY, in order to install custom firmware easily, strongly recommend installing CwMR first. HOW?
a. make sure it's rooted.
b. install Mobile Odin
c. flash custom kernel which includes CwMR. Be careful of flashing GB kernel to GB firmware and so on.
So go back, a question for you.
How did you manage to install Siyah kernel first place?
votinh said:
Trying to gain root via installing another custom kernel is NOT the way to go, in fact, it's not the right way and AFAIK, it's not gonna work.
So, it was stock ICS and you want to .......... what? just root? or intend to install a custom firmware?
Either case,
FIRSTLY, rooting. Read the stickies, there are links to instructions how to root (per ROM version)
SECONDLY, in order to install custom firmware easily, strongly recommend installing CwMR first. HOW?
a. make sure it's rooted.
b. install Mobile Odin
c. flash custom kernel which includes CwMR. Be careful of flashing GB kernel to GB firmware and so on.
So go back, a question for you.
How did you manage to install Siyah kernel first place?[/QUO
Siyah kernel was in tar format can be installed in desktop odin. Am I wrong?
the bottom line is now I cant flash any rom through odin or kies. It just hangs at the start. I am able to install stand alone stock kernels through odin without any problems. I guess I am clear aout what I am talking. Help appreciated. Thanks
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getting a jig to reset the counter and will try to get a replacement.
It turned out to be bad cable issue.
I brought a new micro USB cable and the rom flashed nicely
May be if kernel flash ok but not rom, one needs to change the cable. :laugh:

[Q] I Have The Brick Bug What I Do?

I have gt-i9100 updated to 4.0.4 xxlq6 and I was thinking about rooting. Then I read the thread about the brick bug and downloaded the "eMMC brickbug check" and it gave me the following information :
eMMC chip
Type : VYL00M
Date : 09/2011
CID : 15010056594c30304d19493508139ef1
FwRev : 0x19
Brick Bug?
YES.Insane chip.
Considering this information what should I do? Should I root using odin to flash the CF-root kernel?
Yes mate use Odin + syiah 4.1.5 its safe kernel
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I'm in exactly the same boat as the OP. Is there a muppet proof guide to flashing Siyah?
idoru78 said:
I'm in exactly the same boat as the OP. Is there a muppet proof guide to flashing Siyah?
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Yes just flash via Odin. Just download Odin (plenty of links) then download Kies for PC. Then install Kies for the drivers and then close it. Go to Task Manager and quit any tasks with Kies in it. Open Odin and put the Siyah Kernel file in PDA and flash to your phone.
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And if you are really afraid of doing something wrong...
Then flash 4.0.3
Peace
Hit Thanks & It will Disappear
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Next Device: Upcoming Nexus
Yeah siyah would be your safest bet
Why does everyone say flash via Odin? I flashed dorimanx in recovery. Is that bad?
or simply this]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
666fff said:
Why does everyone say flash via Odin? I flashed dorimanx in recovery. Is that bad?
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No, not at all. It's just easier to direct people to use Odin if they don't necessarily know what they're doing in recovery, or how to go about getting CWM recovery in order to be able to flash a CWM recovery flashable kernel package.

Root Advice - Little help needed

First, I apologize for starting a new thread on this subject.:fingers-crossed:
I just bought my Galaxy S II and I wanna root it,but I'm a little unsure about the whole process.
I also got a VYL00M emmc chip, which is vulnerable,but I'm on 4.0.3 i9100BVLPB.
Here are my thoughts and my questions :
If I flash via ODIN the coresponding CF-root kernel.
But then do I need to flash Syiah kernel through the CWM that comes with CF kernel so I can safely wipe and avoid brickbug?
I hope someone can provide a little aditional information and guide me through the process:angel:
Cheers
alex6vasy said:
First, I apologize for starting a new thread on this subject.:fingers-crossed:
I just bought my Galaxy S II and I wanna root it,but I'm a little unsure about the whole process.
I also got a VYL00M emmc chip, which is vulnerable,but I'm on 4.0.3 i9100BVLPB.
Here are my thoughts and my questions :
If I flash via ODIN the coresponding CF-root kernel.
But then do I need to flash Syiah kernel through the CWM that comes with CF kernel so I can safely wipe and avoid brickbug?
I hope someone can provide a little aditional information and guide me through the process:angel:
Cheers
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ICS 4.0.3 firmware is not affected by the brick bug.
However, you still need to post your ROM and kernel details. Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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Jokesy said:
ICS 4.0.3 firmware is not affected by the brick bug.
However, you still need to post your ROM and kernel details. Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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I should have done that from the beggining
Model number
GT-I9100
Android Version
4.0.3
Baseband version
I9100BVLPB
Kernel Version
[email protected] #3
Build Number
IML74K.BVLPD
Cheers
alex6vasy said:
I should have done that from the beggining
Model number
GT-I9100
Android Version
4.0.3
Baseband version
I9100BVLPB
Kernel Version
[email protected] #3
Build Number
IML74K.BVLPD
Cheers
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1.
Like i said earlier, you are safe from the brick bug because you are running 4.0.3 firmware.
The brick bug only affects 4.0.4 firmware.
2.
To ROOT your device only, you don't need to flash any kernel.
Root with this method: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
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Jokesy said:
1.
Like i said earlier, you are safe from the brick bug because you are running 4.0.3 firmware.
The brick bug only affects 4.0.4 firmware.
2.
To ROOT your device only, you don't need to flash any kernel.
Root with this method: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
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After that can I safely full wipe and simply install Sensation Rom ?
alex6vasy said:
After that can I safely full wipe and simply install Sensation Rom ?
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Yes.
Don't forget to backup your ROM first
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Jokesy said:
Yes.
Don't forget to backup your ROM first
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Ok.
I've flashed Syiah kernel through ODIN so i guess everything should be safe right now,right ?
Please confirm
alex6vasy said:
Ok.
I've flashed Syiah kernel through ODIN so i guess everything should be safe right now,right ?
Please confirm
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Yes. You are safe, Just like before you flashed Siyah kernel
Actually, you never needed to flash Siyah kernel via Odin.
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Jokesy said:
1.
Like i said earlier, you are safe from the brick bug because you are running 4.0.3 firmware.
The brick bug only affects 4.0.4 firmware.
2.
To ROOT your device only, you don't need to flash any kernel.
Root with this method: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
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Hi
I have the same phone details as the OP. a UK T-mobile running ICS 4.0.3 i9100 BVLPD
I rooted my phone the other day by the simple method in link above... BUT isn't this method of rooting limited ?
I would like to root my phone fully using an insecure kernel & Odin but i dont know where to get the correct kernel for my phone, i need an insecure & original secure kernel to do this right ?
Sorry for my nuwbness questions.
Peace
What are you talking about "limited" and "fully".Its either rooted or it aint.
That method doesnt give you CWM,if thats what you mean.You can just flash a custom kernel that contains CWM if you want.
Isn't exynos abuse the faster way to get rooted?
theunderling said:
What are you talking about "limited" and "fully".Its either rooted or it aint.
That method doesnt give you CWM,if thats what you mean.You can just flash a custom kernel that contains CWM if you want.
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Ok, my bad, i am a nubie after all :angel:. i thought i'd read somewhere that this method was limited in some way.
But now you've confused me a lil more, the thread (also in ur sig) says it does have CWM
Rooting
Download this File first and put in your SDCARD
- CWM via stock recovery or download zip from http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager
- SU-Busybox-Installer.zip
Reboot to recovery.
Choose apply update from external storage.
Choose CWM.zip and wait until CWM recovery appear.
Choose install zip from sdcard or external SD
Choose and Install SU-Busybox-Installer.zip
Reboot
You are done and now your device is Rooted
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Am i again mistaken ?
Anyway i did it the other day & have SU, downloaded T-backup and am now reading\researching on how to make full back up b4 i try a rom.
Peace
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Cool, I made a back up in what i think is CWM and it put a 1.4GB folder on my sd-card.
Am i right in thinking i could mess up my phone, reset it or delete progs & mess with setting ...THEN as long as i can boot to recovery & CMW & load the back up it would return it back to how it is now ?
Peace
That is temporary cwm-not permanent.If you rebooted after flashing the 2 files......it launches stock recovery.
Anyway when your rooted/got permanent cwm you should be backing up your efs and doing a nand backup.
Then start pissing about with roms.
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AnubuRe said:
Cool, I made a back up in what i think is CWM and it put a 1.4GB folder on my sd-card.
Am i right in thinking i could mess up my phone, reset it or delete progs & mess with setting ...THEN as long as i can boot to recovery & CMW & load the back up it would return it back to how it is now ?
Peace
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Yes,but watch out with your media/external sd files and the version of cwm you use.
theunderling said:
That is temporary cwm-not permanent.If you rebooted after flashing the 2 files......it launches stock recovery.
Anyway when your rooted/got permanent cwm you should be backing up your efs and doing a nand backup.
Then start pissing about with roms.
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Yes,but watch out with your media/external sd files and the version of cwm you use.
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Thx theunderling
I see now... so i DO need to get permanent CWM ? I'd need to flash an insecure kernel for that right (i have one ready)
Dont yet know what efs is (ill read up on it) and nand back up ? i just been doing a lil reading on that and thought the back up i'd done is the same thing, they were calling it Nandroid back up, is that different ?
Peace
Just flash Siyah kernel in ODIN and then you will have root and CWM. Its that simple. No need for anything else at all.
I dont understand why we always have all this crap and unnecessary files/steps etc.
Connect phone to PC.
Reboot phone into download mode.
Load up ODIN.
Flash Siyah kernel.
Thats its, Once done you will have new kernel, cwm recovery, rooted system, SU, and also CWM app installed.
If you want new rom simply reboot into stock, wipe data and flash rom you want, You dont have to worry about cwm again as all custom kernels come with recovery.
Yeah I missed your other post saying you had done the nand backup as I was in the middle of writing my reply when you posted yours.

(Q) eMMC superbrick risk using KIES/OTA methods being on 4.0.4 stock?

Hello,
Can you superbrick you phone updating from 4.0.4 stock (entire rom including stock bootloader and kernel) using KIES or OTA?
I mean those scenarios:
- Having 4.0.4 stock and using KIES to upgrade to 4.1.2 or other.
- Having 4.0.4 stock and updating via OTA to 4.1.2 or other.
I ask this because KIES is in some way like ODIN, since it downloads the entire rom to the phone (but then I don't know if it does wipe or just pastes the code like ODIN), but OTA doesn't seem to do the same since it only download an small part of the rom to update.
Thank you in advance.
I believe the super brick only happens when you wipe data
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kilometers4 said:
I believe the super brick only happens when you wipe data
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What do you mean with that? KIES/OTA uses wipe?
RusherDude said:
What do you mean with that? KIES/OTA uses wipe?
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No, you will only brick if you wipe data with the super brick. Just get a tar of siyah or dorimanx kernel and flash through Odin.
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kilometers4 said:
No, you will only brick if you wipe data with the super brick. Just get a tar of siyah or dorimanx kernel and flash through Odin.
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I know that you superbrick you phone by doing wipe/nandroid restore on stock kernel having the 0x19 FwRev eMMC chip, I am asking about updating the phone via OTA/KIES, can you get the eMMC superbrick that way or it's like flashing a rom with ODIN that doesn't do wipes?
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I know that you superbrick you phone by doing wipe/nandroid restore on stock kernel having the 0x19 FwRev eMMC chip, I am asking about updating the phone via OTA/KIES, can you get the eMMC superbrick that way or it's like flashing a rom with ODIN that doesn't do wipes?
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No, the superbrick bug was on the stock kernal. kies does not use the stock kernal to wipe your phone it uses the pc to do the wiping.
As along as you switch from the stock kernal before doing a reset you will be safe.
Cosmic Blue said:
No, the superbrick bug was on the stock kernal. kies does not use the stock kernal to wipe your phone it uses the pc to do the wiping.
As along as you switch from the stock kernal before doing a reset you will be safe.
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Yeye I know using non-stock kernel is safe hehe thanks , this scenario uses the stock kernel.
So KIES can't superbrick a phone because it doesn't wipes? I thought that it sent the file to the device and then maybe wiped
Btw, what about OTA updates also?
ota should not brick it as you will have a modified kernal on your phone which means it would use the modified kernal wipe command which is brick bug safe.
Cosmic Blue said:
ota should not brick it as you will have a modified kernal on your phone which means it would use the modified kernal wipe command which is brick bug safe.
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No, as I tell you on this scenario I use the stock kernel! Would OTA cause a superbrick on this situation?
No one can help me with this question?
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No one can help me with this question?
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OTA updates or Kies will not brick ur phone for sure when on ICS v4.0.4 ma8
it (brick) happens if u do any wipes (Manually) within the recovery of the stock kernels that comes with ics v4.0.4
Sun90 said:
OTA updates or Kies will not brick ur phone for sure when on ICS v4.0.4 ma8
it (brick) happens if u do any wipes (Manually) ///within the recovery of the stock kernels that comes with ics v4.0.4///
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Hurmm.. What if using "Backup and Reset" option from Settings? Does it also causing superbrick to our device?
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Sun90 said:
OTA updates or Kies will not brick ur phone for sure when on ICS v4.0.4 ma8
it (brick) happens if u do any wipes (Manually) within the recovery of the stock kernels that comes with ics v4.0.4
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That's good to hear, thanks
But could I ask why they can't superbrick the phone? On KIES you send the entire ROM to the device, but then it opens the actual recovery to flash it.. right? On OTA you only download a small part of the rom and you also use the actual recovery to flash it.. sure they don't wipe at all?

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