So the official JB update through kies from Samsung is nearly here.
When the time comes and i plug my phone into my pc and fire up kies and it says new firmware update released, if i do nothing and just hit update, will i lose any apps or contacts, anything like that. My phone is all stock and not rooted.
Do i need to back up anything on my phone, before updating the firmware through kies to the official release?
Much thanks for any help.
Xanode said:
So the official JB update through kies from Samsung is nearly here.
When the time comes and i plug my phone into my pc and fire up kies and it says new firmware update released, if i do nothing and just hit update, will i lose any apps or contacts, anything like that. My phone is all stock and not rooted.
Do i need to back up anything on my phone, before updating the firmware through kies to the official release?
Much thanks for any help.
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Anyone who doesn't do a back up before updating is a fool.
Xanode said:
So the official JB update through kies from Samsung is nearly here.
When the time comes and i plug my phone into my pc and fire up kies and it says new firmware update released, if i do nothing and just hit update, will i lose any apps or contacts, anything like that. My phone is all stock and not rooted.
Do i need to back up anything on my phone, before updating the firmware through kies to the official release?
Much thanks for any help.
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Usually no. It does not wipe data it just updates rom. However its been said the the official version via kies will need to re-partition so it may do.
It will clearly tell you whether you will lose data or not so just pay attention.
Contacts are synced with your google account so no need to backup those. You can save your apps/appdata with Titanium Backup and restore to new rom but you will need to root device.
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Usually no. It does not wipe data it just updates rom. However its been said the the official version via kies will need to re-partition so it may do.
It will clearly tell you whether you will lose data or not so just pay attention.
Contacts are synced with your google account so no need to backup those. You can save your apps/appdata with Titanium Backup and restore to new rom but you will need to root device.
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Yeah, but what if your computer crashes in the middle of flashing? Some guy just posted that he dropped his phone in the middle of a flash and the USB cable disconnected. What if that happens? Or a power outage?
Plus, not everyone syncs their contacts to their Google account (why not, I couldn't tell you), so there's also that.
I back up before doing anything, just in case. That way, if something unexpected happens, I have something to fall back on.
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Yeah, but what if your computer crashes in the middle of flashing? Some guy just posted that he dropped his phone in the middle of a flash and the USB cable disconnected. What if that happens? Or a power outage?
Plus, not everyone syncs their contacts to their Google account (why not, I couldn't tell you), so there's also that.
I back up before doing anything, just in case. That way, if something unexpected happens, I have something to fall back on.
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And at what point did you see my advise not to do a backup?
He asked if kies wiped device so I answered. I never advised either way whether he should backup or not so I'm not sure why you replied as if I had told him not to.
Personally I dont really do Nandroid backups that often since all my apps/appdata are backed up my TB regularly, my sms/mms are backed up automatically and contacts/calenders etc etc etc are synced to google so it doesnt take long to restore stuff back if doing clean install. Only time I use Nandroid really is if I find a rom I like and make allot of changes I'll do full backup before testing a new rom/rom version etc, But mostly I'll just restore apps etc after fresh install.
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And at what point did you see my advise not to do a backup?
He asked if kies wiped device so I answered. I never advised either way whether he should backup or not so I'm not sure why you replied as if I had told him not to.
Personally I dont really do Nandroid backups that often since all my apps/appdata are backed up my TB regularly, my sms/mms are backed up automatically and contacts/calenders etc etc etc are synced to google so it doesnt take long to restore stuff back if doing clean install. Only time I use Nandroid really is if I find a rom I like and make allot of changes I'll do full backup before testing a new rom/rom version etc, But mostly I'll just restore apps etc after fresh install.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative, but where you said "usually no" could have gone either way. He really asked two questions. I interpreted your response to be in answer to the "Do I need to back up anything" question. Not the "will I lose anything" question.
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Sorry guys, I know for sure this must already be answered somewhere, but I can't find the answer (I have searched).
I'm helping my friend upgrade to ICS (I know how to use odin etc. I had Galaxy S before) but I wasn't sure will flashing from generic HK Gingerbread to the official European one (LPQ) cause all the apps etc. to be wiped?
I (think) I recall this happens if the CSC isn't available on the new firmware, in which case it switches to KOR, but the phone is already set to KOR.
I know some people say a wipe of all data is advisable, but I want to avoid it if possible.
So my question is will flashing LPQ automatically wipe the device?
It's not an absolute must but if you don't wipe data you'll be sorry
Not a MUST, but advice yes..
Why not TRY without? Of course a full backup first incase some fekkups..
IF not buggy or other after update, fine..
IF buggy and unusable due to bugs, restore to prevous.
But with Kies, Titanium and other apps for backup and restore almost
everything, or manybe even EVERYTHING, I cant see reason why people
as so scared of do backups and whipe ALL for be SURE..
Nothing personale to OP with that saying, but I have been IT technician for
20 years, and the fear of backups amuse me hehe.
Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
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Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
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1. yes, you can upgrade straight from 2.3.4 I've done it.
2. you don't need to unroot before - the upgrade will unroot you.
3. your best bet is NOT TO FACTORY RESET AFTER UPGRADE - IT COULD BRICK YOU BECAUSE OF A KNOWN BUG IN FACTORY KERNEL
4. If you want rooted version of upgrade look for the odin.heimdall version the Creepyncrawly put in the development section.
or you could try Semi UCLE5 that i have linked in the signature. It looks like the stock upgrade but it is smoother, among other things.
Good luck!
Jon first of all, you can always upgrade to any new update regardless of your Android version so it's a Yes to your first question. Secondly, whenever you update to a stock ROM your device gets unrooted itself so you'll have to root it again.
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Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
JonDeutsch said:
Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
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Well, first, since you have never flashed a custom rom I would suggest reading until you're sick of reading before flashing. It will pay off in the long run. Regarding flashing from 2.3.4 up to Custom UCLE5 and keeping all of your apps and contacts - I'm not sure how that would go, honestly. For me, my contacts and calendar are saved on my computer through MSOutlook and I sync them with MyPhoneExplorer without any problems. Most of the apps I use (which is not a lot at all) I don't bother backing up when I flash roms and wipe data clean. I have backed up some in the past with Titanium Backup (pro version is worth it), but only if I know absolutely that I need the data from them. Otherwise, I have just done fresh installs of apps because I have read so much about people having ROM issues from restoring apps with titanium.
About losing the ability to do the OEM upgrade - If you ever want to you can, it'll just take time, and yes, you would have to wipe data anyway to go back to 2.3.4 then use KIES. Kind of a pain if you ask me. Plus, ask anyone here on custom stuff - once you go with a custom ROM, you won't want to go back to stock - EVER.
Hope this helps. feel free to pm me if you need. I'll be on the road for the next few days. remember - READ as much as you can. start with the "stickies" in the top of the main thread with a little pin on the left.
p.s. one more thing. Get yourself a usb jig. it's only a few buck online. once you start flashing roms you may want to try other ones. If you make a mistake somewhere, a jig can get you out of a jam quick.
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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Good idea. I do resets if I come from gingerbread too. But I know with this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948) you have to make sure you have the kernel that is based off of the stock kernel - AJ's kernel to safely factory reset. I think you will get a boot loop if you factory reset with the Siyah installed. I could be wrong, but I remember getting a boot loop on mine when I had siyah installed. Maybe it was because i did a reset from settings/back up and reset/factory reset and then formatted the sd card (since I had so much useless crap on there, luckily backed up on my pc).
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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You're kidding right? No do not tell him to factory reset with the stock kernel. If his phone has the big he could burn out his emmc chip. Then he would need to pay mobile tech videos to jtag it.
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you have to flash iOS on your phone first before you can upgrade to cupcake, immediately update to donut before rebooting, then you have to go through eclair, froyo, and you will find yourself at gingerbread. DO NOT REBOOT AFTER FLASHING GINGERBREAD!! you have to flash ICS during the shutdown process....if you miss your cue, you will have to start all over
i rooted my x10 mini,flashed nAa kernel via flash tool & installed cyanogenmod.
i made a nandroid backup before that,now i want to go back to stock rom,so i clicked restore in recovery and restored it.
but now my phone is not turning on,
did the kernel change caused this issue
please anyone help me
I read somewhere that if you want to go to stock rom, you have to re-lock bootloader. Try to search for more about it.
andrumon said:
i rooted my x10 mini,flashed nAa kernel via flash tool & installed cyanogenmod.
i made a nandroid backup before that,now i want to go back to stock rom,so i clicked restore in recovery and restored it.
but now my phone is not turning on,
did the kernel change caused this issue
please anyone help me
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The restore only restores the rom, not the kernel, and the stock rom won't run on a custom kernel.
You either need to get a stock kernel to flash with flashtool or repair your phone using SEUS or PC Companion
The Backup will still be available for restoring, if you figure out how to install CWM on the stock kernel/rom
And there is NEVER a need to relock the bootloader, unless you want to send it for repairs under warranty.
other problem
cheers everyone.
i have an other problem with my u20i.
i think i made very bad, crappy ****. =/
this term is correct for me too:
i rooted my x10 mini,flashed nAa kernel via flash tool & installed cyanogenmod.
i made a nandroid backup before that
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i must say- everything is more than fine. after something like 10 hrs i really like it and tought i should test some other customs too.
but now my problem:
like above is wrote: i have the backup. but what i doesnt minded is- i need to restore my contacts..
normally i would say- okay. i will ask in facebook or something like this- but i have/had somethin ´bout 300contacts.
i thought the google-acc will add all my contacts if i log in( it does as i´ve used an other android-phone some weeks ago[the owner got all my contacts in his contacts-.-]) so- it doesnt adding them for now.
is there any way to restore just the contacts? i know- i should backup them seperately- but its too late now..
i looked around to open the ".img" data, but i only can burn them to disk.
i really dont want to restore the stock rom too get the contacts and backing them up otherwise.
hope you understand what i´m talking about.
mean-language is german- so ask if something isnt clear.
thanks everyone
D3SiRe2 said:
cheers everyone.
i thought the google-acc will add all my contacts if i log in( it does as i´ve used an other android-phone some weeks ago[the owner got all my contacts in his contacts-.-]) so- it doesnt adding them for now.
thanks everyone
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Maybe you've got Auto-synchronisation turned off, so it won't sync your phone with your google-account automatically.
If all your contacts are still on your google-account (check with your pc) then syncing (Settings-Accounts and Synchronisation-Synchronise) should get them back on your phone.
If that doesn't work, restore your previous backup and maybe export your contacts to sd-card, then flash back your new rom and import your contacts from sd-card (in the contacts application, press the menu button and choose import-export)
You could go into CWM - backup and restore and do an advanced restore, which will put back all the settings and data from your original rom, but not all that may be compatible with your new rom, so it might cause more problems than it solves.
Those are your options, as far as I'm aware.
There is a way to 'decompile' the data.img of your backup, if you've got an Android-kitchen, which is for developers, but that's quite complicated, and i wouldn't know where to look for the contact-details that are stored there.
Hey everyone, I was attempting to flash an iteration of cyanogen mod on my i777 last night and something went horribly wrong (I think the tutorial I used linked me to Clockwork Recovery Mod for the i9100 or something) so long story short, I flashed a stock i777 rom and reset to factory defaults. My phone is now functional but I'm trying to upgrade to the latest firmware before I try to flash another ROM. I'm running into some problems using Kies though. When I have Kies open and my phone is plugged in, it realizes that I need to upgrade firmware and ask me if I want to. A dialog box opens stating my current firmware version (PDA:KH7 / PHONE:KH7 / CSC:KH7), the latest firmware version (PDA:KK6 / PHONE:KK6 / CSC:KK6), the test "TEST1" then the update/cancel buttons. Then it prompts me to read some disclaimer information (don't disconnect your phone, back everything up, etc) and I click "Start upgrade". Immediately after this a dialog box opens that says "Notice" at the top then in the information field there is just the message "TEST2". At the bottom are the options "start" and "cancel" if I click start, the process continues to download upgrade components, then prepare upgrade components, then the upgrade process begins and I get a notification that just says "Notice" Then a bunch of (what looks like) mandarin characters (I'd post a picture but because I'm a new user I cannot reference external links.) Once I click 'OK' it acts as if the phone has been disconnected and reconnected and starts the process again.
Obviously these messages are very odd and uninformative for an end user like myself. I'm led to believe I'm doing something wrong but can't find any help online (I've tried google and searching through threads here here). Has anyone experience this before? is there an ICS rom that I can flash straight from the stock rom? What can I do to fix this?
Thanks in advance!
Wild guess. U used rom manager.
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Not sure about the messages, but when I first decided to try the KIES update when I had restored to stock, I did the KK6 update over the air. Go to settings, then software update (I can't quite remember where software update is in gingerbread settings).
I don't know if this will help, but plugging your phone into KIES with KK6 already on thephone may work.
And, yes as mentioned above, if you used ROM manager in the past, you will have problems.
You mentioned you are back to stock with a functional phone. You also said you plan to flash a custom rom. So why bother upgrading via Kies first? Whatever upgrade you receive via kies will disappear when you flash a new ROM. If you have a functional phone, Just go ahead and flash whatever you are going to flash.
However, it sounds as if your problems started because, in the BEST case you flashed the wrong rom for your phone and, in the WORST case, you might have used ROM manager which a few minutes of browsing the stickies would have immediately told you was a bad idea. So, before you attempt anything else with your phone, it sounds as if you need to do some reading to make sure you understand what you are doing. The stickies are a great place to start.
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Not sure about the messages, but when I first decided to try the KIES update when I had restored to stock, I did the KK6 update over the air. Go to settings, then software update (I can't quite remember where software update is in gingerbread settings).
I don't know if this will help, but plugging your phone into KIES with KK6 already on thephone may work.
And, yes as mentioned above, if you used ROM manager in the past, you will have problems.
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I tried updating over the air yesterday after I did the factory reset but it told me I was IP to date (obviously not true) and is making me wait 24 hours before I try again. I still have about 6 hours before I can try again. I'll post again with my results. I did not use ROM manager. I flashed the from via Odin mode. Thanks for the replies, guys.
I'm confused about what u did and how u fixed it. And if its fixed. But whatever the case let us know how it turns out.
Sent from my SGH-I777
So I've been a long time creeper, and have come to love the XDA for the resources that it offers. I have found many answers to all my questions android related!
I'm very wet behind the ears when it comes to android stuff. I've only rooted my tablet, and i717, nothing major.
However, I have started to become more ambitous as of late and have tried flashing new roms onto my note, and I have been hooked ever since.
So here is my story now.
A few months ago, I flashed flapjaxx rom onto my note. Didn't back things up so I lost everything, at this time I didn't care, so I rebuilt my contacts and all my other important stuff. After a while I noticed it wasn't running nearly as smooth so I found a stock rom and went back to normal. Life was good, and then I got the itch again to try something new. I saw the new flapjaxx rom, but I had since learned my lesson and backed up everything on my phone with kies desktop and then proceeded to flash the new rom. Well long story short, I screwed up my phone, and it wouldn't load past the samsung logo, I used this website to figure out a solution and now I am running smooth once again.
BUT! This is where the issue arises. Ever since upgrading my rom from a stock Rogers rom to flapjaxx, I cannot connect to kies desktop to restore all my contacts, photos etc....
any suggestions?
Thanks in advance, and I look forward to talking to many of you!
uninstall Kies, reboot pc, and reinstall Kies, use stock Samsung charging cable.
The cable actually makes a difference? I don't have a stock cable anymore. It got bent ages ago so I've been using my hp touch pad rapid charger for months now.
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theyangman said:
So I've been a long time creeper, and have come to love the XDA for the resources that it offers. I have found many answers to all my questions android related!
I'm very wet behind the ears when it comes to android stuff. I've only rooted my tablet, and i717, nothing major.
However, I have started to become more ambitous as of late and have tried flashing new roms onto my note, and I have been hooked ever since.
So here is my story now.
A few months ago, I flashed flapjaxx rom onto my note. Didn't back things up so I lost everything, at this time I didn't care, so I rebuilt my contacts and all my other important stuff. After a while I noticed it wasn't running nearly as smooth so I found a stock rom and went back to normal. Life was good, and then I got the itch again to try something new. I saw the new flapjaxx rom, but I had since learned my lesson and backed up everything on my phone with kies desktop and then proceeded to flash the new rom. Well long story short, I screwed up my phone, and it wouldn't load past the samsung logo, I used this website to figure out a solution and now I am running smooth once again.
BUT! This is where the issue arises. Ever since upgrading my rom from a stock Rogers rom to flapjaxx, I cannot connect to kies desktop to restore all my contacts, photos etc....
any suggestions?
Thanks in advance, and I look forward to talking to many of you!
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There are a couple of reasons that the device fails to be recognized by kies, since you have made changes too the device.
the first, and usually the most common, is the "unsecured root privleges" issue......this simply means that kies, has detected the unlocked device, and see's this as a security issue, then fails to connect the device...
The next issue is the rom itself. Often times, kies will see the modified firmware image, and refuse to connect the device due to the unrecognized data, device firmware ID etc.
The work arounds are pretty simple, as you can use Odin, to push images directly to the device, and if you have the correct USB drivers on your PC, Odin does not care what software, or firmware images you have.
And besides, almost all software is now pushed to the device by .zip file in recovery anyway. and you simply dont need kies unless you are doing a factory emergency restore, or wanting to use the kies backup method..(backup of data can be done through your recovery, without the need for a PC connection anyway) We call it a nandroid backup, and they are fast.....
I dont use kies, as I feel that it's interface is poor at best, and we can accomplish exactly the same thing using CWM/TWRP recovery, and Odin.
In cases of needing a factory restore to the device image, I prefer to send folks too samfirmware.com..
the process always works, and we dont see nearly the trouble using it...
You should continue to read up in the "note super everything thread", as it contains more info on these issues than you can imagine......
I hope this helps you out a bit......g
So here is the million dollar question then, since my existing backup is with Kies, how can I restore my contacts at least? I assume I can't simply use nandroid and it will restore my phone, is there a patch through from kies to nandroid?
Or is there a way to locate the backup file generated by Kies, and then somehow decompile it and restore my phone another way?
~Tony
rangercaptain said:
uninstall Kies, reboot pc, and reinstall Kies, use stock Samsung charging cable.
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Tried this and failed this morning.
Any other tips?
theyangman said:
So here is the million dollar question then, since my existing backup is with Kies, how can I restore my contacts at least? I assume I can't simply use nandroid and it will restore my phone, is there a patch through from kies to nandroid?
Or is there a way to locate the backup file generated by Kies, and then somehow decompile it and restore my phone another way?
~Tony
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Are your contacts not synced with google ??
All of my contacts return too me, after flashing a new build, as soon as I sync with google the first time. Of course, you have to enable sync in your settings, but after that initial sync, you will get them back, even if you dont want too...LOL
I'm not aware of how to strip contacts from kies, as i'm "sure" their formatting is different from anyone else....
the only way I'm aware of at this point, would be to push a factory image from Odin, kies, or samfirmware, and allow the stock image/device to be seen. Then restore the backup to the device, sync with google to transfer them, and ....basically start all over again...(sigh)
I know...it's a pain in the A**....thats why I dont use kies to backup anything........g
Edit: kies is geared toward a pure stock device, and they make it difficult to use the device if it's been altered in any way regarding software.....g
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Just another thought...
If you have "ever" synced your device contacts to google, you can go to the google website, and open up the contacts for your phone number.
There may even be the option to push them to the device from google, or you could at least copy and reload them from there......g