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I am completely new at this, I read that some say the battery drains too quickly over night while in sleep mode (running the vegan 5.1 rom), even when wifi, sync, etc. were shut off. Has anyone else experienced this? How is this compared with iPad? Thanks!
I'm too a bit concern about this issue. Does this problem occur on Vegan ROM only or other ROMs?
What about standard ROM?
Why not just plug it in overnight? Seems easy enough...
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
Vlad_z said:
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
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Understood...
I had to retrain myself when I got my HTC Incredible. I keep a charger at work, home and in both vehicles so I always have power available when I need it. Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
I suppose the bloatware on the stock ROM would cause some battery drain that would be helped by a custom ROM or at least removing the bloatware that you do not need.
Yup, that's the question. Which ROM has least amount of bloatware...
bcampbe7 said:
Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
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Depends on what you consider bloatware
VEGAn is pretty clean if you ask me, but I did stream line it a bit for battery life.
System app remover is awesome. No more using terminal to pull apks manually.
I Yank out the tts (text to speech) stuff
I pull streetview and gmaps (I can get directions from gmaps online if I need them)
I pull email and Gmail (the galaxy tab email port runs my Hotmail and Gmail from one app and I can tell it to never check unless I press the check button)
I pull the news and weather app (I can control update regularity with beautiful Widgets to sync once an hour as apposed to once a min with stock)
I gut out the stock browser and launcher after replacing them with dolphin HD and launcher pro.
There are more but since I already pulled them I can't exactly check
I get amazing battery life this way. If I shut it down when I'm done with it I can make it last all week on one charge at about 3-4 hours of moderate use a day.
I can use it all day heavily and put it to sleep at night and still wake up with 30+% battery.
Looks like gTab never goes truly asleep, just turned screen off. Some apps continue to work.
Thank you, I will give the systemapp remover a try.
This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
dougdelong said:
This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
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Under settings / about look at battery usage and you should be able to see what is using your battery.
I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
turnedmyworld said:
I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
Mantara said:
The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
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I use a widget called "Power Widget", which provides a one button on/off for many settings including wifi. This is the free version: https://market.android.com/details?id=at.abraxas.powerwidget.free&feature=search_result
Mantara said:
The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
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Setting the wifi to turn off with the screen is a HUGE power saver. When my gtab was draining a lot of battery I looked up the battery usage statistics and the wifi was using almost as much as the system idle!
I think right now I'm hovering at about .8% battery drain. I might turn off my RSS widget since I mainly use Pulse as my news source now. .5% here I come!
Well, I set WiFi policy to Off when screen is off and use Task Killer to shutdown every running process before putting tablet asleep and still battery loosing charge from 91% down to 77% in about 10 hours.
So, my numbers are about 1.4% per hour when gtab in "sleep" mode.
I check WiFi router and can see that gTab does switch WiFi off...
Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
I thought that the only way to remove them is to rebuild and then re-flash ROM without those apps.
That's why apps like "Advanced Task Killer" etc. only kill processes from memory, but then Android re-launch them again.
I understand, that for phone not to fall deep into sleep is a feature, but for a tablet it's just a waste...
Vlad_z said:
Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
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I installed "SystemApp Remover". It lists the apps in 2 categories "Regular Apps" and "System Apps". Regular apps are the ones you can remove normally without this app; the ones under "System Apps" are the build-in ones that you can not remove using the usual method. Once you select "System Apps", choose "Assist" in settings, and the app will highlight the system apps in 3 colors - green, yellow, red. Green=ok to remove; yellow=maybe ok to remove; red=removal not recommended.
I suggest you know what you're removing even for the green ones. The name of the app usually tells or just Google it. You can also back it up in settings before the removal.
I have removed some, not enough to test for results yet, but I've seen a few positive feedback from others. Just be careful while doing it, that's all.
Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Try "SystemPanel", it has a function that monitors which app uses the battery the most. According to its description, the monitor function uses about 1 minute of battery if it runs for a full day. And, the monitor function can be turned off and nothing else would run in the background from SystemPanel. There is a Free version as well.
Ever since installing google+ to my phone, ive noticed unusual amounts of battery drain coming from 'android system'.
'android system' started a wake lock of about 11 hours starting about the time i would be checking my google+ and/or texting (im pretty sure texting didnt cause this wake lock tho).
i do have auto photo sync on, but im positive nothing new was syncing.
anyone else experiencing something similar?
Most of the time I freeze it with Titanium when I'm busy and won't be using it because it does use ram cache a lot.......I do the same for the Gallery app and Google maps. It's quick, saves battery, and doesn't waste my ram or cpu usage.
i use Google + excessively and it doesnt drain my batttery
movieaddict said:
i use Google + excessively.........
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Yeah you do!LOL,jkjk(I like most of your shares actually)
I agree tho and really don't think its killing my battery at all. After killing the pull down animation and switching to a solid black background from a live one, my battery life has been the best its been in awhile.
kawika said:
Yeah you do!LOL,jkjk(I like most of your shares actually)
I agree tho and really don't think its killing my battery at all. After killing the pull down animation and switching to a solid black background from a live one, my battery life has been the best its been in awhile.
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Hahahaha ty
If you sync images then yes
I had sync images turned on and G+ drained my battery syncing all of my photos on my phone to G+. Once it was done then batter went back to normal but it drained the battery for 2 solid days.
Having been facing horrible battery drainage for a week - the phone left unplugged to overnight was loosing about 70% of battery charge...
In the morning in menu>>settings>>about phone>>battery>>battery use>>battery chart
AWAKE was showing continues blue line throughout the past night... and the fact that I had recently installed the other fifteen apps made the situation even more complicated :-(
Long story short, as result of analyzing battery use chart, System Panel app history tab, as well as uninstalling/installing my programs one by one, the application what was preventing my Amaze from going into SLEEP mode and draining its battery appx 8% per hour - was identified.
It turned out to be the Amazon AppStore - by the way downloaded from the official web site.
So, do not allow this fabulous app to remain in background (unless you do keep your dear amaze consistently plugged in), and after the use always kill it. Now I am treating it as follow menu>>settings>>apps>>manage apps>>Appstore>>"Force stop" followed by "Clear data" ;-)
However! Even after such my treatment it keeps 'working', the relevant chart in System Panel reads that - six/eight times a day the CPU is being loaded by this particular application!
O.K.
There has been one more app found among my operational environment able to prevent entering the SLEEP mode. It is IM+ Pro. This messager can run in two ways - Background mode and Push mode. When left in the Background mode it won't let our device to enter SLEEP, cousing the similar battery drainage as Amazon AppStore does.
O.K.
Merci beaucoup! for reading my post . & I am happy to add, that now my phone battery consumption in the STAND BY is for sure below 1% per hour .. left unplugged till morning the device is loosing no more that 4%, in fact the signal reception quality line is never marked with green color on the overnight chart in 'Battery Use'.
P.S. Worthy to be also mentioned, during my checks and playing around with System Panel, there have been spotted the apps, what if left running in background (with eather status - 'active', 'cashed' or 'service-only') on one side allow the device going into the SLEEP but on the other keep repeatedly loading CPU around 0.5 - 2.0 % each, what in my opinion is already battery consuming.. The spotted apps are: eBay Official App, Text Free, Control Panel, Maps, Startup Manager & HeyWire.
P.P.S. Probably no need in synchronizing emails frequently during night time - such task is pretty much battery consuming too.
I'm using quicksense 2.1.2. Left it on last night at 79% then in the morning, 74%
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Thanks!
Thanks for reporting this, i would have never guessed it because the only task manager i have is the factory htc one. I was wondering why my battery would drain so much, i would unplug it at 100% and a few minutes later it would crawl down to 94%(with the anker battery). I uninstalled it and now lets see how different my battery is.
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..uninstalled it and now lets see how different my battery is.
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Wished to attach couple screenshots, tried Opera, Firefox, UC as well as default one - in vain.
So giving two links to the shots uploaded to Public folder at my Dropbox:
http://db.tt/5FkXuzG7
http://db.tt/qHYcD2sR
But I see the file extensions need to be added - as JPG..
Good post for giving people some great starting points to help solve some of these problems.
One thing to note: I have the Amazon App Store as well, but no battery problems. My device is rooted and, it's likely, that it's not entirely the app's fault that it's draining the battery, but rather something between the app and Sense not playing nicely.
I've had several apps that would either labor the processor or crash when sense was running that run fine now that rooted.
Hey guys, I just flashed my phone to the latest version of BeastMod last night and used it until my battery went dry. I charged it overnight, and this morning it went from 100% battery to 56% in around 2 hours while it was mostly on stand by! It was completely dead in around 4 to 5 hours and I barely used it for anything but a few phone calls and light web surfing.
Also, when I installed BeastMod, it didn't come with the Gallery app OR the web browser. Is this supposed to happen? I ended up installing Dolphin Browser, and some other gallery app, but now I can't send pictures over MMS. Has anybody else encountered these problems before, and can anybody give me some advice on how to fix it?
If you looked in the thread where you downloaded the mod, there is also a patch and a warning from Xboarder to disable the facebook app sync.
Do I download the .zip file and install it with CWM?
And does the patch fix all the problems up there, or just the power drain?
The patch restores the gallery and browser apps, while disabling Facebook sync prevents the battery drain. If you're still getting battery drain after a couple of charge cycles, recalibrate the battery.
Anyone having problems with charging using the ICSrewD rom? Since I have installed it, charge time is about 4 hours to get it fully charged. Also my battery dies alot faster then stock rom. Left it at 50% overnight and when I woke up my phone was dead. I have 2 phones and switched batteries, so I know its not that. How do you go back to stock browser? I dont like the full screen browser included. Need tutorial on how to install .cwm flashable add-ons. Thanks.
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Anyone having problems with charging using the ICSrewD rom? Since I have installed it, charge time is about 4 hours to get it fully charged. Also my battery dies alot faster then stock rom. Left it at 50% overnight and when I woke up my phone was dead. I have 2 phones and switched batteries, so I know its not that. How do you go back to stock browser? I dont like the full screen browser included. Need tutorial on how to install .cwm flashable add-ons. Thanks.
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Recommend using bbs to check for wakelocks and use CPUspy as well. If these two do not work then full wipe and flash it again.
How long have you been running ICScrewd? It can take a few charging cyles to settle battery in. Do you have any rogue apps running, Skype, Words with friends, etc.(known battery drainers)?
Also what are your sync settings? Auto sync with gmail? There are a ton of factors at play here. I've never had any issue with charging on this ROM(I know overall the GS2 charges slower than my captivate did).
You flash CWM flashable add ons the same way you flashed the rom Simply boot into CWM and select zip and flash.
Edit: ah jivy, beat me by 3 minutes. lol
OK i'm getting better battery life now, but the charging still takes hours. Just need to know how to get back to stock browser. I also dont like when I open the browser, it takes me back to the page I ended last. I want to go to my home page everytime I open browser. Couldnt find the setting to change that. It happens on regular browser and dolphin browser.
legnaz said:
OK i'm getting better battery life now, but the charging still takes hours. Just need to know how to get back to stock browser. I also dont like when I open the browser, it takes me back to the page I ended last. I want to go to my home page everytime I open browser. Couldnt find the setting to change that. It happens on regular browser and dolphin browser.
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Charging shouldn't take hours. Try full wipe and flash again
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legnaz said:
OK i'm getting better battery life now, but the charging still takes hours. Just need to know how to get back to stock browser. I also dont like when I open the browser, it takes me back to the page I ended last. I want to go to my home page everytime I open browser. Couldnt find the setting to change that. It happens on regular browser and dolphin browser.
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Are you exiting the browser correctly, with the back button? You may be leaving the browser running, thus bringing you back to where you left off. Also when you're finished using the browser check running apps in task manager, it may still be running when you think it isn't.
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The only issue I had with battery on ICScreweD was where a reboot would lose me 30% in the battery meter. It has never done that to me on any other ROM, before or since. But, the battery still lasted as long. For example it did it to me almost every time when it was 40-50% and I rebooted. It would start back up in the low teens, they stay there, or go up slightly, for hours, then start to drop again. When I looked at battery use it showed the downward trend, the drop and settle, then where the trend should pick up again it would go down. Guess it's common for others to see this, just weird that it only did it to my on ICScreweD. The battery life wasn't impacted, just the battery meter would be wrong.
I have been using ICScrewed for two weeks now. Usually when you flash something new, I find that it takes about two battery charging cycles to become stable.
The battery life of ICScrewed is very good, but not as good as stock. Still, I use my phone about 3 full days per charge with a moderate amount of texts, calls, gaming, etc. I still can do anything I want to freely without worrying about the battery life.
I was using the golauncher task widget to end browser, but now I am using the Android one to end tasks and that one doesn't save the last page. How can I got back to stock browser though? I don't like the full screen one without the time on top.
Go look in the ICScrewed thread in the development section. There is a thread for this ROM that has the ROMs website. On the website is a cwm flash able add on to change back to the regular non-fullscreen browser.
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I had just recently loaded ICScrewD (1.60 >1.6.1 blue) after a full wipe/cache/dalvik and I was unable to attach an audio file to an MMS message. As soon as I would select audio after clicking the attachment button, messaging would force close. I tried two clean wipes before giving up. Any other 1.6.1 users able to duplicate this?
Edit: I'm able to attach photos and some other files but audio seems to give me the trouble.
so far the best rom! i switch from unnamed. the issued with battery drops after reboot exist, comfirmed. but as was said it's battery meter issue.
what else i noticed and would like the dev to fix it is edit photo feature in galary app does not work, crashes on start.
another thing is: is it pisibble to intergrate LatinIME.apk from cm7 or unnamed?????? i tried to simply yank and install apk but it crashes after reboot.
thanks for your work otherwise perfect rom