So I've been using a Samsung flip phone for the past two years and finally decided, with the end of my contract, that it's time to buy a new, bamf phone.
I really like the HTC Hero, and I know it can be unlocked to work on Tmobile, but would I totally loose out on 3g functionality if I did this? And if so, would it only last til the phone is released state side?
Also is the Hero worth buying if it can't connect to 3g networks? Should I just get the Sapphire?
Nosotros said:
So I've been using a Samsung flip phone for the past two years and finally decided, with the end of my contract, that it's time to buy a new, bamf phone.
I really like the HTC Hero, and I know it can be unlocked to work on Tmobile, but would I totally loose out on 3g functionality if I did this? And if so, would it only last til the phone is released state side?
Also is the Hero worth buying if it can't connect to 3g networks? Should I just get the Sapphire?
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If you live in the USA then T-Mobile will only give you 2g on the Hero.
Sprint http://phandroid.com/2009/09/03/official-sprint-announces-htc-hero/ and http://phandroid.com/2009/09/03/sprint-htc-hero-oct-11-179-no-chin/ have confirmed they will carry the Hero (but not as we Europeans know it) on their 3g network.
So what would you all consider a better phone, a Sapphire on 3g or a Hero on 2g?
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
Tmobile Flyer?
sbrownla said:
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
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Im also interested in this, has any one seen this or using.. with contract or non contract (phone)?
The HTC Flyer T-Mobile is truly one of a kind
This unique tablet is only 7″ wide, but it comes preloaded with Android 2.3,
HTC Sense that has been optimized for your tablet, and a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
The HTC Flyer also features a 5 MP camera on the back and a front-facing camera for video chatting! This tablet also comes with HTC Scribe Technology, which is something brand new. You can purchase the HTC Scribe digital pen accessory for an additional fee, and be able to take notes that sync with a recording, highlight an important passage, doodle on a picture or even create your own picture! The HTC Flyer can give you a truly unique tablet experience.
HTC Flyer (T-Mobile)
•1.5GHz Qualcomm Processor
•Android 2.3 Operating System (Gingerbread)
•7″ Touchscreen that takes input from fingers & optional digital pen
•16 GB Internal Memory, Card Slot for up to 32 GB
•Rear 5MP Camera and 1.3MP Front Camera
•DLNA Capabilities
•Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP
•SRS WOW HD™ surround sound delivers impressive audio
I just wanted to bump this thread because I am also looking for a answer to these questions.
I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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Thanks for the clarification. I ordered a US tmobile branded flyer from ebay for $350 nd I was hoping to use it as a phone and for data. Since it's similar to the one you have, I'm hoping the roms are the same for it.
There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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Thanks. I'm gonna try it out today and cross my fingers that I can get it to work.
Well dam I'm sorry for wasting your time. Despite winning a 4g flyer on ebay, a wifi flyer arrived in the mail! I have already tried contacting the seller on friday and he still hasn't responded to me. I guess I have to go down the arbritration route with ebay and in the end, I won't have a 4g flyer. Oh well, maybe it wasn't meant to be but thanks for all the info!
Well that sucks! I'm getting accustomed to having my Flyer with me, and the 3g/4g is a godsend when I'm in a hotel with lousy wifi coverage. I'm still looking for a good Honeycomb GSM phone call solution, but so far no decent hacks yet that work. If ICS ships within Q1, that may solve my problem.
Good luck with the arbitration...
Well I finally got in touch with the seller and I got my money back. There is a seller on amazon called "Samy's Savings" who is selling the 3g flyer for only $399. I placed an order and have my fingers crossed about getting the right one this time. I have a question for you though.....What data plan are you using with T-mobile? I was thinking about using the flyer as an phone since I already have data on my main phone. As I've read more on the forum, it seems that the best way to use the flyer as a phone is to either use a bluetooth headset or a wired headset. If this is the case, I will probably just use the flyer as data only. Also, have you tried using the flyer as a portable hotspot? I'm curious to know how it performs this function if at all. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and have a great day!
Any updates with your Flyer 3g or tmo branded flyer 4g?
Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
scotty1223 said:
see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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Bump - Has anyone figured this out yet or is there still no way to get the t-mobile htc flyer to work with voice,mms & data?
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
lilcapone said:
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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Family mobile (walmart) works
I have a UK unlocked HTC titan, I get horrible reception in my house and AT&T has given me a 3g Microcell to fix it, well the Microcell has its own problems, but regardless they say that my phone wont work with the Microcell anyways because its only getting E (edge) so they convinced me to get a new phone (Nokia Lumia 900) which i did like, but ultimatly took back because I love my titan so much, they no longer offer the titan 1 and would only give it to me for $199 through their site (which is BS because the titan 2 is $199) I know i should just et the titan 2 but i dislike the curved glass, I like the look and feel of my Titan 1, I would have already dropped AT&T and went to verizon but they have no WP7 phonesand I want to keep my titan...
So I'm asking:
Is there a Rom that I could flash to my titan (Its an Unlocked UK version (British lady voice and all) and AppHub Unlocked) that would set it to the AT&T rom and possibley get better signal as well as 3G capabilities?
I would like to flashmy rom and use the one from AT&T to recieve 3G and use the Microcell as well as overall better coverage.
Im somewhat of a noob to the flashing and dont know if thats how it works or what... Can someone please help?
Thanks.
Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Sim unlock for free via s-off, I dunno about the 3G factor, though I do think it has them.
Really? Because on my Samsung Galaxy S, only specific modems have specific network bands, so I was thinking similar things would apply to the HTC Amaze. I do see that you're using a Telus ROM, so there's probably a Telus radio....
All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
Pulsewave said:
All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
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What this guy said, since I used practically every different providers stock Rom with the same service reception.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D
Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
Jay_Rulen said:
ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
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Got mine for 250 locally, changed the back cover and applied a screen protector, it's practically new now, normally goes for 350 in the condition I got it.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D
Hi folks,
I've got an unlocked HTC One Max which I bought SIM free from Amazon UK. I'm using Three as my network provider in the UK and they've begun rolling out 4G to Glasgow where I live. One of my colleagues is also on Three with a Samsung Galaxy S4 and he started picking up a 4G signal this morning in the office whereas I'm still only seeing 3G. We had a poke around on our respective phones and in the Mobile Network Settings under Network Mode he's got more options than I do, including one for LTE. I've only got two options: WCDMA only and GSM/WCDMA auto. Without being able to select an LTE option in here I don't see how I'm ever going to pick up a 4G signal. Does anyone know why I'm seeing no LTE option in here and how I go about sorting that?
Okay, so I did a live chat with an HTC rep who confirmed that if there's not LTE option available in the settings then I've got the 3G only variant of the handset. I've no idea why HTC would even sell a 3G variant in the UK as it makes no sense at all, but I looked on Amazon and they only sell a single variant of the phone (which is definitely the one I bought) and curiously the listing for it doesn't clarify either way which network protocols it supports. I even tried Googling the product number (99HWN005-00) but I can't find any solid information about which version of the phone that represents. I'm hoping here that it's just a mistake and I should've been sent the proper 4G variant but it's impossible to say for sure when the Amazon listing gives no info at all about what they think they're actually selling. Either way I'll still be trying to get Amazon to take some amount of responsibility here because I think I made a fair assumption that I'd be buying the 'proper' version of the phone from them; especially as there's nothing on their site to tell me otherwise. I suppose it'll be down to how seriously Amazon take customer service as to how far I get with them. God damn it!
Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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dottat said:
Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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Even if that was the case I would still need to see the option in the settings to turn on LTE; I don't even have that option so regardless what bands my carrier is using my phone wouldn't pick up a 4G signal of any kind.
I've basically somehow ended up with a 3G only variant of the phone which frankly they shouldn't even be selling because there's no point. I might ping HTC again with a more direct question but they don't seem to be able to tell me what I've got so it's more likely I'll just go back to Amazon and see what they have to say about it.
Also I did a quick check and Three are using the 800 MHz band which the 4G version of the HTC One definitely supports.
Okay, so, I sort of got it fixed but it's a really stupid situation. There's a key code to get into a hidden setting menu on Android (*#*#4636#*#*) which bypasses the normal options and allows you to force the network mode to any of the ones Android itself supports; so it's got all sorts of weird **** like EVDO and whatever in there. I went in there and forced on 'LTE only' mode and now I can pick up 4G if I stand in certain parts of the office. I've put it to 'GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto' and it should now go up to 4G whenever it gets a strong enough signal and work as it should. Why I've had to do that hack to get it working, and why the normal user level UI doesn't expose the LTE related options, is a ****ing mystery though. With KitKat rolling out that might might sort it but I shouldn't need an OS update to expose functionality the hardware's already capable of. It's really ****ing stupid all in and not doing HTC's rep any favours with me as I'll probably have to repeat the same stupid hack every time I reboot the phone.