So finally Verizon has opened Goggle Wallet on the S4. After the last update of Google Wallet on the Play Store, i just checked Google Wallet on the S4 and it worked. All the features are available to link your bank account or debit card and credit cards. Also special promotion deals and a lot more things then Verizon's own ISIS.
Check out on your Verizon S4 and update.
I will try to post some screen shots soon.
This happened last week. Note, Verizon didn't do anything, Google just disabled Tap to Pay (Using NFC).
atharwaqas said:
So finally Verizon has opened Goggle Wallet on the S4. After the last update of Google Wallet on the Play Store, i just checked Google Wallet on the S4 and it worked. All the features are available to link your bank account or debit card and credit cards. Also special promotion deals and a lot more things then Verizon's own ISIS.
Check out on your Verizon S4 and update.
I will try to post some screen shots soon.
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I noticed that it installed & ran, but I've heard from many that it doesn't work for NFC transactions at stores (just person to person). I'm not talking about the people who just say "doesn't ever work!!". It's hit or miss at some stores, as I've used it before on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I think it says "not supported" when you go to pay at an NFC supported terminal. Try it out & let us know...
It should let you add credit/debit cards now as you can pay person to person I mentioned above.
Sucks if TTP is not working
So what good is a Wallet when I cannot do tap to pay via NFC ... it would have been better if the would have kept the application locked as before...
Can you confirm the source of this that Tap to Pay is not working or have you tried it yourself.
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Can you confirm the source of this that Tap to Pay is not working or have you tried it yourself.
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Can't confirm personally & hope to try it out by this weekend
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So what good is a Wallet when I cannot do tap to pay via NFC ... it would have been better if the would have kept the application locked as before...
Can you confirm the source of this that Tap to Pay is not working or have you tried it yourself.
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It's grayed out on the wallet setup so you can't use it.
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So what good is a Wallet when I cannot do tap to pay via NFC ... it would have been better if the would have kept the application locked as before...
Can you confirm the source of this that Tap to Pay is not working or have you tried it yourself.
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You can confirm it yourself: Load Wallet, Menu, Settings, About, Tap and Pay says "Not available".
There's a modded APK that loserskater hacked up to ignore the device specific checks.
I threw it into a CWM/TWRP flashable zip and posted it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45833601
If you don't have a custom recovery, you'll just need to move the APK and adjust permissions manually (the link to the original APK is in the instructions in the OP of that thread also).
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Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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What phone/version are you using?
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
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Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
Hephaestus_ said:
Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
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you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
orl.on.dow said:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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4.0.33
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4.0.33
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Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
mgl888 said:
What phone/version are you using?
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
So I did a quick search and didn't see anything in the forums but I wanted to bring this to all AT&T users attention. You can now just install Google Wallet from the app store and the Tap and Pay will work. It actually asks you if you want to use Google Wallet instead of ISIS. Looks like Google Wallet may have won the battle of restricting it to certain phones. I have a rooted stock version of kitkat installed wallet direct from the store and no issues.
http://www.google.com/wallet/index.html#install
erandhawa said:
So I did a quick search and didn't see anything in the forums but I wanted to bring this to all AT&T users attention. You can now just install Google Wallet from the app store and the Tap and Pay will work. It actually asks you if you want to use Google Wallet instead of ISIS. Looks like Google Wallet may have won the battle of restricting it to certain phones. I have a rooted stock version of kitkat installed wallet direct from the store and no issues.
http://www.google.com/wallet/index.html#install
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Yes is working on KitKat firmware. That was mention in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661762
Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?
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Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?
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Think the watch only works with android phones, but i could be wrong.
No iOS support til the x201 gets updated to 4.3 or better.
How about the google play store. Is that an option?
Mhotep06 said:
How about the google play store. Is that an option?
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You can install whatever you want. Play Store is one of the first things to get put on. Google the .apk file and install it.
And the first thing he should do is?
*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch
Apply patch, install custom ROM, anything to get off of stock firmware.
dragonfly1113 said:
*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch
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LOL. Thanks Guys. So I can just install the APK for the play store without rooting or doing anything to the Omate. And what is the "patch"?
You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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As a noob to this device. What ROM recommendations do you all have?
trent999 said:
You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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i'd love to run Loki's patch but im not too technically inclined and would love a step by step walk thru of how you do it and what will it look like and do once its installed,
I am on a custom rom (N5 on CM12.1) and rooted so android pay will not work for me. Now I am not too upset about not being able to pay with it, but it is kinda dumb that I can't even get access to my loyalty and gift cards without adding a credit card. So I uninstalled android pay, installed v8 of google wallet. I then unlinked to market using Titatinium backup, but the next day I see not only is it reconnected to market, but is due for update. I disconnected it from market again, and verified that it didn't show up as needing an update, but the next day I see that android pay has been updated.
So my real question is there no way to access loyalty cards without adding credit card? If not I am guessing that google play services is taking control of things and is automatically updating google wallet whether it is linked to market or not, so what can I do to stop it updating itself?
Thanks.