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So its time for me to jump ship and move to a new carrier (Moved away and sprints service here is even worse then were I was) I'm not getting calls for job call backs which is hurting me a lot. So I will be switching to T-Mobile or Verizon. Never will go back to AT&T.
I love this phone though. I was a Evo 4G owner before EVO 3D. What phone would be best suited for me that is currently out, or coming out in the future for either carrier? Must be VERY powerful (I like saying I have one of the most powerful smartphones in available) And it needs to have a huge XDA base. I'm a flashaholic... (Pretty much rules out samsung...
You picked the 2 best carriers...
Verizon - Galaxy Nexus
There should be a lot of ROM's, cyanogenmod support should be quick, and the bootloader will be unlockable right after you get it. This is probably the choice that I would go with since the galaxy nexus is a google phone, the XDA base will be the largest, etc. etc. The Galaxy Nexus will be google's and verizon's flagship phone.
T-Mobile - One of the Sensation phones
I don't know which one has the largest XDA base, but I think all sensation phones are the same software wise (so it might just be one section). The sensation is also the flagship tmobile phone. I think the sensation has a great developer base since there is already ICS source ROM available.
Definitely the Sensation or Amaze 4G. Just one glance to he Sensation forums should give you an idea how big it is. It's at least twice as big than here.
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Hm. I'll be going with the Galaxy Nexus when it comes out then.
Never had the nexus, or nexus S so it looks good to me.
If there's good Verizon service down there, why not just switch PRLs?
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If there's good Verizon service down there, why not just switch PRLs?
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
-etc.
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-Because if you go over around 700,000 MB they can terminate you
-Roaming drains battery on the Evo 3D
-You shouldn't even be doing that
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If he's already switching, them possibly terminating his account isn't going to matter much. Besides, he'll save some money in the meantime
As for battery drain, I don't recall anyone running 11115 complaining about anything like that
EGOvoruhk said:
If he's already switching, them possibly terminating his account isn't going to matter much. Besides, he'll save some money in the meantime
As for battery drain, I don't recall anyone running 11115 complaining about anything like that
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True, if he wants to get terminated he actually should use that PRL and stream videos/download movies/etc.
Roaming heats up my phone and drains battery but maybe the same effect isn't present on the PRL.
I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
If you go with Verizon, the HTC Rezound is the most comparable to the E3D, with a faster processor and a better screen (but minus the 3D camera, of course).
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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I think if you move and don't have service, they might let you out of the fees. Nextel did that for me around 10 years ago without me even asking.
Rob the plumber said:
I think if you move and don't have service, they might let you out of the fees. Nextel did that for me around 10 years ago without me even asking.
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Yeah, go ahead and carefully look at the terms if service allows this. All carriers used to do it. Tmobile doesn't anymore for sure. I'm guessing sprint will be the same, that if you move into an area that has bad service that clause in the contract is null. It is worth a look, because if you signed the version of the contract that allows cancellation after moving to a bad service area you have the right to not pay etf.
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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Like I said, just switch PRLs. You'll either get Verizon like signal, or Sprint will cancel for you, and you won't have to pay the early termination fee
If I HAD to go another carrier I probably would go the galaxy nexus of course. If you like what HTC is doing then the Rezound is the perfect choice
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I will be paying the early termination fee to sprint.
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Thank you
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Yeah, go ahead and carefully look at the terms if service allows this. All carriers used to do it. Tmobile doesn't anymore for sure. I'm guessing sprint will be the same, that if you move into an area that has bad service that clause in the contract is null. It is worth a look, because if you signed the version of the contract that allows cancellation after moving to a bad service area you have the right to not pay etf.
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Thank you for giving helpful info same goes to the other poster. also and to the dbags telling him to skrew sprint over cause he moved get out of here. He is being a honest and a mature adult which I think is awesome as its hard to find a decent person.
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Like I said, just switch PRLs. You'll either get Verizon like signal, or Sprint will cancel for you, and you won't have to pay the early termination fee
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Such bad advice.
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ckoadiyn said:
Thank you for giving helpful info same goes to the other poster. also and to the dbags telling him to skrew sprint over cause he moved get out of here. He is being a honest and a mature adult which I think is awesome as its hard to find a decent person.
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Such bad advice.
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It was obvious he's a man of principle, and I can sincerely respect that. There are still a few good people left out there. He is honest, and willing to pay his dues. It was about the only useful thing I could post, given his principles, I hope he doesn't have to pay the etf but the fact that he is willing speaks volumes
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It was obvious he's a man of principle, and I can sincerely respect that. There are still a few good people left out there. He is honest, and willing to pay his dues. It was about the only useful thing I could post, given his principles, I hope he doesn't have to pay the etf but the fact that he is willing speaks volumes
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I've kinda always felt this way about it...
http://m.androidcentral.com/verizons-response-fcc-about-bootloaders-surprises-nobody
As the saying goes... "One bad noob spoils the bootloader".
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If the phone is unlockable, with a tool available from Motorola with a warning saying "If you unlock the bootloader of this device, your warranty is void... blah blah" .. Thats Motorola's loophole for no support.
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If the phone is unlockable, with a tool available from Motorola with a warning saying "If you unlock the bootloader of this device, your warranty is void... blah blah" .. Thats Motorola's loophole for no support.
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It's actually (mostly) not Motorola. The problem is carriers, worried about their bloatware (especially Verizon). Motorola has stated that as soon as carriers (Verizon) allows unlocked bootloaders, they'll comply with a tool similar to HTC's. All Big Red cares about is raping your wallet... HARD (I have the bills to prove it) and their bloatware sucks data like no other app you'll find anywhere. The reason our bootloaders have chastity belts is because Verizon wants to protect their bloat, and keep playing Viking (not Minnesota style, Nordic Viking) on your payroll. That's at least my take on things... Besides, this phone is a beast out of the box, AND (at some point) we WILL get ICS. There aren't any fully functional ports of it out, and anyone who's ever flashed a ROM, or customized Kernel will tell you that there are drawbacks to flashing them in most cases (I know, I was a hard core flashaholics with the EVO).
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It's actually (mostly) not Motorola.
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While I appreciate how crappy Verizon is (American friends regularly remind me), I really don't see why they keep getting brought up as if they're chiefly responsible - Moto started this locked bootloader trend with the original Milestone, the GSM variant of the Droid, and went as far as to tell customers to buy a Nexus One if they wanted a development platform. There are open market GSM RAZRs, no carrier attached, bootloader locked like all the rest (I'm posting this from one). Even the developer edition has a locked bootloader. I'm sure VZW have a lot of sway with Moto, but that doesn't explain why all of the other RAZRs are locked too.
Still hoping that merger gets us the result we want when it's all ironed out. It's a shame it's worked out like this. Kudos to the devs we have for accomplishing so much when they're so shackled.
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what the hell does verizon have to do with all the other consumers all over the world. keep your damned bootloaders on verizon and unlock all the other ones >_> sold overseas. moto support has been **** ever since they released the v6.
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What you guys aren't thinking about is how much carriers pay to have an "Exclusive" phone. AT&T paid out of their butt to get the iCrap, and so did Sprint when the "exclusive" contract ended. Think about the MSRP. The manufacturers of these devices say they're worth up to $600+. We get them for $199 (or $0.01 in my case) because of the money the carrier spent to get your $1,500+ per year on their contract... From a business perspective it makes complete sense, but for us... It SUCKS! THAT'S why Verizon is to blame...
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What you guys aren't thinking about is how much carriers pay to have an "Exclusive" phone.
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The RAZR isn't a Verizon exclusive device outside of the US, though, which is pretty much my point.
Absolutely agree that the existing business model is very broken, but it isn't going to change until people stop buying subsidized handsets.
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The RAZR isn't a Verizon exclusive device outside of the US, though, which is pretty much my point.
Absolutely agree that the existing business model is very broken, but it isn't going to change until people stop buying subsidized handsets.
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Agreed...
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Agreed...
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Sucks even more that none of the US networks are truly cross-compatible, makes subsidies almost a necessary evil. I hope for everyone's sake that the logical extension of VoLTE leads to cross-compatibility.
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First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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Hmm, so what will be next? They must have a big plan. I can't wait for some news.
Sounds like definitely plan to start making their own phones. Come on Motorola nexus!!!!!!
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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cornelious2 said:
access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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You would be absoutly correct, Google and Larry Page could care less about Motorola or a cell phone. What they do care about is the 6000 (or is it 16,000?) patents that Motorola owns! Right now, Apple is sueing everyone for infringements, thats getting read to change real fast!!!
I dont know if you guys know this, Motorola was around L-O-N-G before Sammy, HTC, Apple, Noika, all of them. They held all these patents but never really enforced them for whatever reason. If you remember, Apple went after Motorola with its Lawyer Goons with this Paten crap. I guess Motorola did not have the balls to fight, but Larry Page has bigger Goons! F**k, motorola has patent on the old bag phone of the late 80's! So if they every come back........
Correct - this is all about now owning patents.
Means little or nothing about current phones.
bitbang3r said:
Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
valentinoh said:
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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i couldn't agree with you more. i am really looking forward to having ics... either by update of by unlocked bootloader and flashing cm9
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
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by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Boost?
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redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
CCallahan said:
Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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I guess that could be real possible. If I remember right they use Sprint's towers.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
I hope I'm wrong but I really doubt this will affect prior devices like the Photon, Atrix, etc.
I can imagine future devices having prompt updates, perhaps vanilla android, but seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
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Expecting ICS sooner is unrealistic. Expecting unlocked bootloaders for existing phones so we can do it ourselves is another matter entirely.
As far as carrier approval goes, remember that there's a fundamental difference culturally between Motorola and Google. Motorola wouldn't even contemplate releasing an unlocker unless the carriers demanded and paid for it. Google will have its lawyers read the sales & maintenance contract it has with the carriers, and do it anyway as long as there's no clause in that contract explicitly prohibiting them from doing it.
In practical terms, that probably means Sprint and T-Mobile will have official unlockers within weeks, and AT&T & Verizon will never get them. However, I'll bet there will be some VERY interesting tidbits of info in the Sprint unlockers that might prove useful to someone at XDA trying to write one for a Verizon phone... ;-)
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Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
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as long add they unlock my bootloader so i can have a blurless ics rom i think id be pretty dang happy at least until jellybean comes out lol
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
tnx
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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tnx for the info... im going to look into it i still have 6 months before my contract with sprint will end.so i still have a lot of time to figure this out
What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
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Read some news. Its all over everything unless you happen to know of another law kicking into gear on the 26th.
duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Thanks for the response. The wording is just so... Special its hard to make heads or tails of it.
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duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
Fidelator said:
Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
styckx said:
And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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Actually this is just made to screw us customers and to help huge corporations in their never ending quest to get more money off us.
If someone buys a phone with a provider and switches it's because said provider didn't fit the needs of the customer needs, having choices is not bad at all.
The damn government is full of selfish bastards that just care about filling their pockets with bribes, this clearly doesn't help anyone.
Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
NeoMagus said:
Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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The Galaxy unlock apps from the store might be banned and if we aren't lucky all of the *unlock your device* threads here in XDA will be gone too.
Here is an article and snippet that mentions tablets:
"Digital Millennium Copyright Act will make it illegal to jailbreak and unlock phones. According to the act, it is illegal to unlock both tablets and phones without permission from your wireless provider. ... Unfortunately, that window closes on Saturday, January 26th."
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/dmca-law-to-make-unlocking-phones-illegal-after-january-26th/
Of course any tablet without cell network connectivity or purchased from a cell provider is exempt.
so does this leave cyanogen mod in a tight spot? or can we still swap roms and stick with the current carrier?
I don't live in the US but it infuriates me when the government screws the people it's supposed to protect.
I sure hope none of you guys votes for the fags who passed this.
I agree it's a crock. Do we purchase the phone/tablet or rent it? If we are truly purchasing the phone then all they SHOULD be able to do is void our warranty.
This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Wasn't really worried about them holding me down... was more of a question of what is allowed and isn't... damn wording is so vague... i prefer the cyanogen roms... typically run much better than stock.
As long as i can still do that... i am happy.
Never know an alien could have provided blueprints for your phone
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Dont think it'll be enforced
I honestly dont think this law will be enforced.
Here in South Africa its illegal for the cellphone providers to lock the phones to the network. I guess lucky us.
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The provider sates "purchasing" the phone, and we all sign contracts with stated penalties for early termination. So basically they were able to convince the gov't to make a law to change the contract we already had with the provider.
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This isnt talking about rooting your phone, it is about unlocking which network it can be connected to. There are probably less than 1% of people in the US who ever unlock their phone to move them to a different carrier. Everyone in the US buys a new phone with a new contract, and most of the pay as you go stuff is unlocked anyway since you have to enter the APN info yourself or have a service rep do it.
The law itself is retarded and unneeded, and also shouldnt be within the realm of what government is allowed to say you can or cant do. But really it makes not one bit of different to just about anyone.
This should be pinned to every general section in this on this site.
Sign this petition to keep unlocking legal. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414699,00.asp
Starting Saturday, it will be illegal for you to unlock your phone without permission from your wireless carrier.
The rule change dates back to an October decision from the Library of Congress's Copyright Office, which gave consumers a 90-day window to unlock their phones without carrier permission. That 90-day period, however, ends this weekend.
The Copyright Office reviews the rules on unlocking (and jailbreaking) every three years, as required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). This time around, regulators found that "there are ample alternatives to circumvention. That is, the marketplace has evolved such that there is now a wide array of unlocked phone options available to consumers."
Some groups, however, had requested an exemption that would allow people to unlock their phones at will "because some devices sold by carriers are permanently locked and because unlocking policies contain restrictions and may not apply to all of a carrier's devices."
The Copyright Office, however, determined that "with respect to newly purchased phones, proponents had not satisfied their burden of showing adverse effects related to a technological protection measure."
That's likely because there are currently a variety of options when it comes to unlocking your phone. Verizon CDMA phones, for example, have unlocked SIM card slots. The 4G LTE Verizon iPhone 5 also includes an unlocked SIM. Last year, AT&T started allowing non-contract iPhone users to unlock their devices for use on other GSM networks. You can also opt to buy unlocked phones for a higher price.
Still, the Copyright Office recognized that it's not as easy to unlock an older phone as it is a newer one - "in part because an older or expired contract might not require the carrier to cooperate."
As a result, regulators gave consumers that 90-day window, starting Oct. 28, to unlock their phone without carrier permission. The move "is both warranted and unlikely to harm the market," the office concluded.
The unlocking issue differs from jailbreaking. In its same October ruling, regulators upheld rules that allow for jailbreaking, which allows you to run unapproved applications. Jailbreaking is most often mentioned in conjunction with the iPhone because Apple has strict control over which apps it allows into its App Store. If you jailbreak your device, you could run an app not available in the App Store on your iPhone, but the very act of jailbreaking voids your warranty, so you better know what you're doing.
The Copyright Office, however, declined to extend its jailbreaking rules to tablets because it found that the proposed definition of the device was too broad.
Wow. What has this world come to. That's a communist way of looking at electronics. I wish we knew more about what will happen if you have your carriers permission to unlock.
On a second reading, it looks like this only applies to unlocking the sim. It doesn't say bootloader...
Maybe we'll still be able to dev for these amazing devices
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yeah its sim unlock only, so you cant run it on another network, which is still absolute BS.
Signed. Freedom after purchase is a very big part of living in a free society. If you can't do what you want with your property what's the point in calling it yours
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This is the Rezound forum. The Rezound is only sold through Verizon Wireless. VZW has never locked their phones to work only on their network.
mike.s said:
This is the Rezound forum. The Rezound is only sold through Verizon Wireless. VZW has never locked their phones to work only on their network.
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Someone obviously missed the point...
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this does not matter just purchase an unlocked phone like i did the htc rezound and besides all lte phone must be unlocked according to fcc rules. for the rules.
rezoundness said:
this does not matter just purchase an unlocked phone like i did the htc rezound and besides all lte phone must be unlocked according to fcc rules. for the rules.
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Bootloader must be unlockable yes, but sim cards no. They will have control over your ability to use a phone on a network of your choosing
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As if this will stop anyone. Just like how gun laws prevent shootings...
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As if this will stop anyone. Just like how gun laws prevent shootings...
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You may own the phone, but your service provider can cut you off it you violate their rules. They'll tell you too bad.. Go try the next provider your just a number
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But wait a sec,
If you buy the phone on contract for the lowered price then technically you don't own the phone right? So the carrier would decide?
Don't forget to sign the death star petition as well. If ur not familiar with that petition then shame on u.
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Don't forget to sign the death star petition as well. If ur not familiar with that petition then shame on u.
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Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
heyis4horses said:
Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
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How sad. I didn't know it ended already. I really thought this petition would be successful. Shows u how messed up this countries priorities r when we can't even get the government to commit necessary resources to building a death star. My generation will get this done. Guaranteed. Clever response from the White House though. I will concede that much
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saintsfan09 said:
How sad. I didn't know it ended already. I really thought this petition would be successful. Shows u how messed up this countries priorities r when we can't even get the government to commit necessary resources to building a death star. My generation will get this done. Guaranteed. Clever response from the White House though. I will concede that much
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I could not be happier with their response unless it was a picture of a death star in construction
When I'm President, my first move in office will to order funds for R&D into the creation of a Deathstar. I hope to vaporize those damn Martians by my 2nd term...
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Your info isn't entirely true. This law only pertains to phones purchased when the law goes in to effect. Any phones purchased before the law going in to effect is exempted.
Personally I would just buy a nexus 4 if I was going to carrier hop and know everything will work right. I do agree its stupid as if you own your phone outright you should be able to use it as you see fit. After all you can modify your car any way you want so why cant phpnes be the same way?
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heyis4horses said:
Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
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They are the government as they don't know a parsec is a measurement in distance and not time lol.
I really thought they would go for the ideal of building a death star. I mean come on it wastes money like the government seems to love to do. Plus all Americans could move in to it and then they could blow the earth up and take care of that pesky illegal immigration problem in one shot. Then we could be the ultimate power in the universe lol.
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So, I've been doing some research on this, and there are a lot of misconceptions about this that need to be cleared up.
First, this seems to only apply to new phones sold after the effective date. Second, this by itself does not make unlocking a phone illegal. This decision simply states that the DMCA doesn't grant an automatic exemption to unlocking according to the interpretation of the Library of Congress, not that it's illegal. That means that the carriers can sue people for unlocking if they choose to do so, and it would then be up to the court to decide whether or not it's legal.
What would happen if it did go to court? The EFF would likely step forward to help the defense of the first defendant. Possibly other groups as well. The carriers and their industry groups would fund the prosecution. In the current legal landscape, it would likely be decided favor of the carriers, however, despite what you're reading, that hasn't actually been decided yet.
https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
Yes Verizon has had phones that only work on their network... My HTC Eris didn't have a removable sim card.
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justjayhere said:
Yes Verizon has had phones that only work on their network... My HTC Eris didn't have a removable sim card.
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Because it's a CDMA phone, they don't use sim cards.
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