I have read a lot of threads similar to my problem, but not quite exact. I own a Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate SGH-T959D for 2+ years now. The problem only occured about a week ago.
Problems:
-Battery sometimes only charges up to around 85%
-When fully charged and unplugged, it instantly jumps anywhere between 80%-97% RARELY charging to 100%
-Battery drains to around 65% under an hour of usage.
-Battery dies somewhere between 40-65% without warning shutting it off. When I try to turn it back on, it only goes up to the logo screen and shuts back off. When I charge it, it charges starting around 50% or where percentage it died at.
-Battery only lasts 3 hours max with display on.
Things I tried:
-Restore to factory default
-uninstalled weather apps
-re calibrated
-Installed GSAM app to find out that no particular app is eating my battery life.
Cell Settings:
-Screen is at it's dimmest setting (no auto adjust)
-Not much background running apps.
-Wifi, and bluetooth off.
The battery doesn't drain quickly when it is sleeping (display off) when not in use.
Have you tried different roms to see if it could be an issue there? It sounds like it could simply be a bad battery, which honestly isn't the end of the world considering how cheap replacements are: http://www.amazon.com/Batteries-Captivate-EB575152VA-Anker-Multi-purpose/dp/B005HBGXR6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1359657962&sr=8-3&keywords=anker+samsung+fascinate+battery
Sorry, I don't know much or anything about roms. I am rooted, but that's all.
I have tried restoring mine to factory default, but when it started up again I was still rooted. Is there a way to Really restore my cell to factory default like it came out of the box without having to unroot the phone manually and then restoring to factory default?
It's not like my battery was slowly getting worse and worse battery life. The problem just occurred all of a sudden.
Just follow this guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
It has all the info you need to go back to stock, however I suggest going with one of the good 4.1 or 4.2 Jelly Bean roms that are available as they are much better than stock. I personally suggest either AOKP Milestone 1 or CM10 (latest nightly) which are based on 4.1 Jelly Bean, only because I feel all of the 4.2 roms aren't quite ready for prime time yet (although CM10.1 is supposedly really stable, but I haven't personally tried it yet).
Thanks for the help so far. What are the advantages of flashing roms? Does it by anyway increase battery life or make my phone function any faster?
I read a bit about it, but I am having trouble understanding some things. Could I flash any rom on to my cell, or only certain roms are compatible with my cell?
Well with the exception of CM (Cyanogen Mod) you can find the roms that will work with the Fascinate in the Developers forum here. Certain roms have different features that you may or may not want so it's not my place to tell you which one will be best, but it's very easy to flash different roms so you're best off downloading the most popular and giving them all a try. Also in answer to your question, you can't flash roms that are not meant for the Fascinate, like for example a rom meant for the Vibrant will NOT work on the Fascinate and will cause you major problems. Roms are labeled for what phones they work on though, so unless you're really not paying attention you shouldn't have a problem with that.
Flashing roms is the only way for you to get the latest versions of Android, as Verizon stopped supporting the Fascinate with the release of Gingerbread. Many people, including myself, consider Jelly Bean (latest Android) far superior to past versions of Android and would never go back. You have to realize though that all custom roms come with some risk, meaning that you may encounter bugs or have things not work 100% of the time. Usually this isn't a problem though, and overall the most popular roms are close to fully functional. If you are using your phone for a purpose that requires rock solid stability with almost no chance of errors, then you're still better off going with a good custom Gingerbread rom (I recommend this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278838). If you're a normal user though, the latest Jelly Bean roms are probably going to be better for you overall. If you want to try a good Jelly Bean rom go with this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847225 but just make sure to use the 4.1.2 google apps, NOT the 4.2.1 ones
Ok, so I am planning on flashing the Jelly Bean rom. What is a good way to flash a rom? Also, if I don't like the rom, is there a list of roms that are compatible with my device?
Yeah just follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide that I linked you and you'll be fine. Like I said, all of the available roms are found in the Developers forum with the exception of CM which can be found through a google search or going to rootzwiki.
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Yeah just follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide that I linked you and you'll be fine. Like I said, all of the available roms are found in the Developers forum with the exception of CM which can be found through a google search or going to rootzwiki.
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In that guide it said "Here is a guide I have put together for the Samsung SCH-I500 Fascinate." Will this also work for my model SGH T959D?
Nope,,, look here though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho... FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)
What do you guys think of the cyanogen rom as opposed to the jelly bean one?
Also is this a good way to install roms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKy2AvKgB3c?
Disregarding stock ROM(s), the developer that has made the greatest contribution to enabling all of the current ROMs available for the fascinate is jt1134.
We are blessed that he still likes, develops for, and uses his fascinate... The CM10.1 nightlies are where his most recent efforts are made available to us - and he's fixed a major battery-draining bug within the last couple of weeks.
Why use anything else on this phone (other than JT's latest or something derived from it)?
I dispute the assertion made earlier on this thread that the current android v4.2 ROMs aren't ready for daily use. In over two years of keeping this old phone up to date, or on the bleeding edge if you look at it that way, I've never been more satisfied with performance or battery life.
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What do you guys think of the cyanogen rom as opposed to the jelly bean one?
Also is this a good way to install roms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKy2AvKgB3c?
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Cyanogen v10.1 is built from the latest version of "Jelly bean" (Android v4.2.1). They add good things to the stock features of AOSP (Android Open Source Project).
Read the fascinate Dev forum over on rootzwiki. There are active threads on the cm10.1 ROM, including a fairly recent aosp ROM.
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Nope,,, look here though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho... FASCINATE] One Stop Shop (updated Sept 2012)
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bmeek said:
Disregarding stock ROM(s), the developer that has made the greatest contribution to enabling all of the current ROMs available for the fascinate is jt1134.
We are blessed that he still likes, develops for, and uses his fascinate... The CM10.1 nightlies are where his most recent efforts are made available to us - and he's fixed a major battery-draining bug within the last couple of weeks.
Why use anything else on this phone (other than JT's latest or something derived from it)?
I dispute the assertion made earlier on this thread that the current android v4.2 ROMs aren't ready for daily use. In over two years of keeping this old phone up to date, or on the bleeding edge if you look at it that way, I've never been more satisfied with performance or battery life.
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Cyanogen v10.1 is built from the latest version of "Jelly bean" (Android v4.2.1). They add good things to the stock features of AOSP (Android Open Source Project).
Read the fascinate Dev forum over on rootzwiki. There are active threads on the cm10.1 ROM, including a fairly recent aosp ROM.
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I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying about jt1134... but remember the OP's phone is a SGH-T959D and not our sch-i500
so in the thread i linked above read it all, then re-read and pay close attention to::
10. Installing ICS / JB - Depending on what OS you want to go to, you're going to need to grab an appropriate kernel to do so. The best option seems to be Semaphore's i9000 kernels. If you're going to flash an ICS rom, grab the 1.3.0s .tar file. If you're going to JB, grab the 2.1.0s .tar file.
11. Download your ROM of choice. i9000 versions of SlimICS/SlimBean/CM9/CM10 work on the T959D. You will also need grab the .zip version of the Semaphore kernel (ICS / JB) you're using and a Modem of your choosing. KG3 works best for me, your mileage may vary.
and this :::
... recommend either SLIM, TirmaSLIM, DarkyROM 11 or Andy Thomson's MIUI ROM at this point - all are pretty great ROMs and don't need the carrier hack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
A complete list of ICS ROMs for the I9000 can be found here (as well as kernels). Please note the update dates as that will indicate how much active support there is for the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586084
:::: then here is their thread about jb and other ROMs
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I recommend hellybelly 4.2.1 its ready for daily use YES its my daily driver for over 2 months and I haven't had one fc or error everything works ect.and I done checked its available for your device
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i am new to the Fascinate but i was just wondering-is there a battery low/charging notification light on this model? that orange green led that also flashes if you get an email or text message?
thanks in advance
tekweezle said:
i am new to the Fascinate but i was just wondering-is there a battery low/charging notification light on this model? that orange green led that also flashes if you get an email or text message?
thanks in advance
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The fascinate doesn't have a led notifiyer system instead custom ROMs flashes the soft key lights where you get a new message ect.
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thanks for the reply, seems like a quirky hardware omission by Samsung but if you all have no complaints about it, then I won;t worry too much about it. just thought it would be good to have some visual indication if your battery was charged or not after being connected to a wall socket without having to physically hit the power button. i can see that the bottom row of icons did light up for me when I got a message but I hope that doesn;t use too much more battery than a single LED.
As for 3500 mah batteries, I have a couple on order that hopefully will arrive soon for testing. under 10$ each in eBay.
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thanks for the reply, seems like a quirky hardware omission by Samsung but if you all have no complaints about it, then I won;t worry too much about it. just thought it would be good to have some visual indication if your battery was charged or not after being connected to a wall socket without having to physically hit the power button. i can see that the bottom row of icons did light up for me when I got a message but I hope that doesn;t use too much more battery than a single LED.
As for 3500 mah batteries, I have a couple on order that hopefully will arrive soon for testing. under 10$ each in eBay.
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Then soft keys probably use 10x less power than then LEDs lol yea honestly nobody have any complaints because we stay on our fassys so much we always know what the battery is lol
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hi guys...i'm currently using samsung galaxy ace but i'm planning of buying a s2 in the next few days...but before that i have a few questions to ask...
1)there's so many ics rom out there,which is the official ics rom?i'm so confused
2)which is the best ics rom for s2?the official ics rom,or the custom ics rom?and please give me the link
3)is the ics build stable...any bugs?
4)how is battery life of this phone?i use moderate gaming,calls,sms and some wifi...can it last for 2 days?
i hope u guys out there can answer to my questions...i'm a newbie here and i hope that i didnt cause any inconvinience in any way....thx
1) There are several 'official' ICS builds released
2) There is no such thing as the "best ICS rom for SGS2". You have your phone setup differently to everyone else, you use your phone differently to everyone else and your phone came out of the factory slightly differently to everyone else's.
A rom that runs well for me might not run well for you.
I suggest you go the development sections of the forum & read the first few pages and the the last 10-20 pages of the particular threads devoted to different roms. That way you will get an idea of the features/pluses/minuses of each rom, and also see other users' experiences with that rom.
Then you can test different roms for yourself to find one that works best for you.
3) Yes. All the non-stock ICS builds have bugs of one kind or another.
4) Too many variables determine battery life to say 'the battery life of the phone is good/bad/etc. As per 2), it's determined by how you use the phone, how you have it setup, whether you have constant good signal where you live/use the phone (poor signal means less battery life) and a whole lot of other things. Can it last for two days ? If I only used my phone for a couple of calls & a bunch of SMS per day with the phone in idle the rest of the time, I could probably get more than a week out of a charge. But it's a smartphone, and who uses it like that ?
Best ics rom = cyanogen mod9
if you want real ics
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1) There are several 'official' ICS builds released
2) There is no such thing as the "best ICS rom for SGS2". You have your phone setup differently to everyone else, you use your phone differently to everyone else and your phone came out of the factory slightly differently to everyone else's.
A rom that runs well for me might not run well for you.
I suggest you go the development sections of the forum & read the first few pages and the the last 10-20 pages of the particular threads devoted to different roms. That way you will get an idea of the features/pluses/minuses of each rom, and also see other users' experiences with that rom.
Then you can test different roms for yourself to find one that works best for you.
3) Yes. All the non-stock ICS builds have bugs of one kind or another.
4) Too many variables determine battery life to say 'the battery life of the phone is good/bad/etc. As per 2), it's determined by how you use the phone, how you have it setup, whether you have constant good signal where you live/use the phone (poor signal means less battery life) and a whole lot of other things. Can it last for two days ? If I only used my phone for a couple of calls & a bunch of SMS per day with the phone in idle the rest of the time, I could probably get more than a week out of a charge. But it's a smartphone, and who uses it like that ?
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1)several?i thought there's only one...
2)there are so many roms out there compare to the galaxy ace..tat's why i'm confused...i want ics rom...which one do u use and which is the moset popular one?
3)hmmm....nothing major i guess?
4)oic...my ace can go a day without charging...so i guess the s2 can too...
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Best ics rom = cyanogen mod9
if you want real ics
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if i'm not mistaken cm9 is not the official samsung ics rom right?
No, CM9 is not Samsung based. It's AOSP based (search if you want/need to know what this means).
Don't buy this phone,devs runs away from it
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Don't buy this phone,devs runs away from it
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Like with any other phone. Devs will develop, something else comes along and off they go, some Devs continue to develop.
Back on topic, try out an official ICS rom first, there are a few as they are for different regions bit any non Asian firmware will work on the international I9100.
Then have a read through the custom roms and decide what's best for you, no one can tell what's best for you its just a matter of trying.
You've got plenty of choices, stock Samsung rom, custom Samsung rom, AOSP, AOKP, CNA and Miui.
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I would recommend you Wajk's WIUI! I've been using it now for about 1 month and im overwhelmed by the functionality and the smoothness of this rom! The only thing is that it is no clean ICS that you actually wanted, but it is definitley worth a try for you
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Don't buy this phone,devs runs away from it
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if not which phone should i buy?
i'm considering htc sensation xe too...
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Like with any other phone. Devs will develop, something else comes along and off they go, some Devs continue to develop.
Back on topic, try out an official ICS rom first, there are a few as they are for different regions bit any non Asian firmware will work on the international I9100.
Then have a read through the custom roms and decide what's best for you, no one can tell what's best for you its just a matter of trying.
You've got plenty of choices, stock Samsung rom, custom Samsung rom, AOSP, AOKP, CNA and Miui.
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ok...
i'm from malaysia(asian country) so which official ics rom will work for me?could u give me the link??thx alot!!!
Whatever phone you buy I am sure you will find a good ICS rom that works well for you. Whether that is a "stock" samsung rom, or a custom rom like CM9, that depends. But isn't half the fun of these phones the fact that you can chop and change and try different things?
I'm using HyDrOG3N-ICS 23.03 and it seems pretty kick ass. Granted it only came out 2 days ago so I haven't had a long time to test it But I might decide to change to a different rom again soon who knows? I suggest you take a look in the "Galaxy S II Android Development" forum and look for posts with [ROM] in the name. Read about them and choose one that sounds cool. If you try it and it's not cool, just try another one
I was in a similar situation a few days ago. I had never used a custom rom on my S2 but after Samsung ICS update disapointed me, i decided to find one. I've tried quite a few, somes would have apps that crash all the time etc,some wouldn't boot. I even managed to soft brick my phone.
I then found Ressurection Remix that came with Vertemus' Domination theme.. Installed 9.6. Was great and i loved it. Then 1.0 came out, so decided to give it a try. And i can say that the speed difference was major. More fluid. Only issue i now have is that the domination theme is wierd in the notification menu ( hard to explain ... the black is just too... black on the items. its just a minor anoyance )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854&page=1589
To conclude, i think there is no perfect mod. I was really happy with 9.6 but when i tried 1.0 i noticed that the other version had a few issues.
Hey guys my dad just got a Fascinate for his work phone and it's currently running Android version 2.3.5.. When I checked for a software update it said that was the newest version. Really? It never got ICS at least?
Now if this were my phone I would root it immediately and flash something newer onto it but it's my dad's, and he honestly does not need that many cool features and all that. Still, if the process was simple and the features were worth it, then I would be glad to do it for him.
I've been looking through the Fascinate forums and it doesn't look like any promising Jelly Bean ROMs are out. Maybe I am mistaken?
What is the most stable ROM you can recommend me that is relatively "new" as far as Android goes, as this Fascinate is still 2.3.5. I would just like something relatively new that is still being developed/updated, and is stable as it's my dad's phone and I can't constantly be babysitting it and fixing any issues.
Thanks guys (I have a feeling CM10 or so is the ROM I am looking for, as 10.1 doesn't seem to be up, but just let me know what is your opinion.)
Unfortunately yes, after the 2.3.5 update the Fascinate was completely left out in the cold and never got any further official updates. Lucky for us though, we have some extremely talented developers that have done far better than any crap Verizon might have pushed out on us.
You are certainly mistaken about the Jelly Bean Roms, there are a few really good options. Personally I'm running AOKP Milestone 1 (4.1.2) with Devil kernel and that's been my daily driver for a while now. CM10 would probably be your best bet for a 'stable' rom, although nothing is broken on AOKP too, so it's more a personal preference. The biggest issues that I see on here are related to phone calls (speakerphone, ringtone not playing, etc) so if he's to be on the phone a lot then you should probably skip JB honestly. This isn't to say there are workarounds and fixes but as you said, you don't want to be consistently fixing it, so...
Anyway, if it's his work phone and he values stability above all else and doesn't care about bells and whistles then perhaps staying with a good Gingerbread rom would actually be the best way to go.... Superclean and TSM Resurrection come to mind.
Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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sorry for off-topic, but what is your cpu OCd to if OCd at all
I've been running 200MHz min / 1200MHz max and screen off 200MHz min / 800MHz max (normal OC, not LiveOC). Battery life has been pretty good with it and it seems to be less sluggish vs stock. I also undervolt quite heavily too, you can check my thread I made about it in General a while back for my settings. I'm certainly not one of those people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance from their phones because I personally value battery life above performance, but I certainly don't want a sluggish phone either so I've tried to find a good balance
Alright guys thanks a lot for the suggestions I saw several of these myself and did the reading it was just hard to decipher it all considering I was new to the Fascinate
I've tried most of the jb ROMs for fascinate and settled for baked black bean v6 with devil kernel 1.9.5. Runs great but been having issues with MMS.
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Same here bbb6 with devil 1.9.5. But to fix my issues with MMS I just move to using "go SMS" with custom MMS setting and removed the stock app.
Side note: I do find "go SMS" to be horrible app along with the dev team. I mean yes the app works and yes I use it. But only because I have too. The is always nagging me to go try another theme, to get there launcher, or its sending me fake chat messages about how I should there go chat feature. I mean I have a list of things I dislike about it. But again it does get the job done....
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So what doesn't work about your guys MMS,,, and are you Verizon or someone else
Mine has always worked fine,,, I'm page plus through Verizon
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Power washed is a good 2.3 rom
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I'm using revol wireless. And I can get MMS to work. But it's way slower sending through the stock app then when I send through go SMS. Plus go allows me to rotate my PICs before I send them.
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I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
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I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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Ugh, that's always a tough one to answer Maybe 10%-15%? It's really hard to say since it depends on how the device is used. Some stuff like active Bluetooth definitely takes more juice, whereas Wifi takes less. The screen takes more since JB requires the kernel to maintain a VSYNC (Vertical Sync) signal and it will enable the accelerometer device whenever the screen is on for auto-rotation support (if you turn off auto-rotate it's smart enough to disable the accelerometer). Pretty much anything you actively do with the device will require more battery than it did, there's lots more code in JB, fancier graphics to animate, etc.
There is also one application, Google Play Music, that I have listed as a "Known Issue" when it comes to battery life. For some reason/bug in it's album art downloader, it can get itself stuck in a loop and trash the battery in a matter of hours. I tracked it down to the mentioned album art service when an external SD card is installed, and told Google, but that's all I could do for that. I recommend disabling Google Play Music and replacing it with a better music player!
I wish I had a more concrete answer for this one, but "it depends" is about as good as I can do. If your friend is getting well more than a day out of the phone now, he should probably be OK if charging every night is acceptable. If he's already battery-challenged, I think it may be a frustrating experience for him.
For what it's worth, here are the most two recent battery life screenshots I have. Note: These are with a brand new battery ($14 - amazon) and really only show standby with Wifi ON times, which is what I was testing. Basically indicative of the absolute maximum battery life possible, not real world usage.
Hope this was enough to help with your decision!
Geewiz is probably the most stable by far great battery life and as you can see great developer
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There are so many recommended ROMs now, it almost seems like too many choices. (It's a good "problem". I'm not complaining.) I tend to find one based on reviews and recommendations and stick with it, rather than flashing through a bunch. I've been using MIUI from GB to JB, but sadly development seems to have ceased.
I had been eyeing Stephen.k.spear's AOKP PUB as a replacement, but development seems to have ceased there as well. Looks like the torch was picked up by bbrad's AOKP, but browsing that thread opened the floodgates to other ROMs such as Liquidsmooth, Carbonrom, SuperNexus, etc, etc, etc, as well as Geewiz mentioned here. Can anyone provide an overview comparison (stability, features, other pros/cons...) between some of these ROMs? (What exactly is the difference in stability of "by far"?)
Also, at some point around ICS, there was a change in file system and/or structure that allowed MIUI to hold a lot more apps than previously. (I think it had to do with MTD, but not 100% sure.) Can I assume most ROM's have this expanded capability now? Does Geewiz have it? I noticed it uses a different file system. Thank you.
I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Flash the ones from goo.im and as for the inverted you just flash them like regular gapps
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Hey everyone. I've rooted all of my previous phones and loved to play around with ROMs. I was always kind of a flash addict. I think I've had my Note II long enough to start messing around with it. I'm putting off the OTA update that Verizon keeps trying to send me so I can use AdamOutler's unlock without having to wait for an update, but I do have a big looming question.
The main reason I want to root is so I can use a non TouchWiz ROM. I hate TouchWiz. I don't use 95% of the features, I haven't touched the S-Pen in 3 months, and I find it absolutely hideous. I want me some Holo. I've done a bit of reading on the subject and it sounds like - since AOSP based ROMs are not optimized for the phone's hardware - I may see a big hit to battery life.
I use my phone quite a bit. Depdending on the day, I may be streaming for 6+ hours with 5-7 hours of screen time, and right now it lasts all day and more. I usually put it on the charger with at least 20% left after heavy use, 50% or more after medium use. I don't really want to give up a significant amount of battery life.
So, people who are using non TouchWiz ROMs (Cyanogen? Is there anything that you'd recommend that's better/similar for this phone?), what kernel/ROM combination are you using and how is your battery life compared to what it was stock? I'm not planning on doing any overclocking, the hardware is plenty fast for my tastes. I just want a non-TouchWiz Android experience without sacrificing my battery.
Possible? Thanks in advance.
I found the battery life to be generally poor. I think sbrissen has a fix in the pipe to improve battery, but it hasn't made it to the ROMs yet. There are other things that didn't work well for me either...GPS and Bluetooth both had issues for me, but they're working fine for others, so it's probably hardware differences.
In general though, ROMs with the Paranoid Android Hybrid Engine really shine on this phone. I'm a sucker for PAC-man (so many options), but there are a couple of other ROMs that have it as well, including Paranoid Android itself.
im running carbon with matrix kernel underclocked and tweaked. i have great battery life, honestly i didn't know there was a difference between TW and ASOP when it comes to battery life.
Thanks for the reply. So ParanoidAndroid ROMs are some kind of hybrid of AOSP/TW? I never actually tried the PA ROM when I had my Nexus, it was just one I never got to. Do you get solid battery life on the PAC-man ROM? I'm taking a look at it right now.
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Thanks for the reply. So ParanoidAndroid ROMs are some kind of hybrid of AOSP/TW? I never actually tried the PA ROM when I had my Nexus, it was just one I never got to. Do you get solid battery life on the PAC-man ROM? I'm taking a look at it right now.
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No PA isnt a hybrid AOSP/TW rom, its a pure AOSP rom that offers hybrid settings so you can set your apps individually to appear as phone, in between, and tablet mode. There's a little more to it than that but that's the gist of it.
You also may want to check out Vanilla Rootbox, it is my favorite thus far and is really stable.
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
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Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference