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Hi everyone, is it possible to play 720p (1280×720) movie on X10 smoothly? If so then which program did you guys use to convert and which encode did you use? Because I did try both .mkv and MP4 H.264 encoded and it seems to be lag or super slo-mo alike. Really appreciate with any help from you.
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Ya u could download the apk file called rockplayer.apk and install it and throw any file in your memory card and this app will play it smoothly
I did use Rockplayer to play but the result was somewhat unsatisfied. I got lag and slow motion video play
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You could try yxplayer, but that's probably going to do the same thing...
So noone suffers the same prob as me? Everyone can play HD video smoothly. Can I ask which codec did you use? I used MP4 H.264 one
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I have the same prob.
Lag on rock player playing 720.
Just like lag in phone overall
Can I ask why you need HD playback on a none HD display? You would not see any difference from a 720p file to a 854X480 file regardless.
The Ironman file I encoded to the proper size plays perfect and I cannot tell the difference from source (720p). Encoded MP4 H.264 with Videora.
I just tried, and in mp4 format, it lags significantly (like it plays between 7-19 fps), but I converted the same file to DivX, picture and sound quality looked exactly the same and it plays perfectly fine at full frame rate.
Well, probably the 2.1 update will bring something to play HD video, since the X10 will be able to record HD video. At lest it is logical.but who knows, maybe we ll record on our X10 the video and watch it on a hd tv. i hope i am wrong.
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Well, probably the 2.1 update will bring something to play HD video, since the X10 will be able to record HD video. At lest it is logical.but who knows, maybe we ll record on our X10 the video and watch it on a hd tv. i hope i am wrong.
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Yeah. Hopefully you are wrong. That would be stupidity redefined.
Coming back to the playback issue. It's the same thing here. I got the best performance with rock player, which managed to play a couple of hd files.but mostly even rock player is too laggy.
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Thank you very much guys, at least now I know I'm not the only one who suffer. Maybe I will try different codec like DivX for example
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Can I ask why you need HD playback on a none HD display? You would not see any difference from a 720p file to a 854X480 file regardless.
The Ironman file I encoded to the proper size plays perfect and I cannot tell the difference from source (720p). Encoded MP4 H.264 with Videora.
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My thoughts exactly. Unless we're able to output and watch these files on our HDTV's, whats the point of needing to watch a 720p file on a 854x480 screen that isn't HD? Makes no sense to me...but to each their own.
I recall reading the update info on SE blogs that we will apart from HDrecording also get wireless video out, i'm guessing we'll need to buy some reciever for our tv's for it to work.
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I recorded a 720p movie using my sony camera and it plays fine on my x10 using double twist
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Personally I want to be able to play 720p video on my phone because that's what format the majority of my video is and I'd like to be able to play it without transcoding
That said, If I remember correctly the snapdragon has a hardware video decoder capable of playing 1080p @ 30 fps so it is probably a 1.6 related issue.
hi mate i just got the phone today its amazing for i have a question whats XDA App that u use for transfer the file i guese??
My guess is that these video players do not have access to the GPU for hardware acceleration, which would mean the CPU would have to do all the hard work (don't forget, playing HD video IS hard work for any mobile device). Whether that would be an Android 1.6 restriction, I don't know.
anybody looked at the bitrates of these videos?
a bitrate of 8,000 in comparison to a bitrate of let's say 1,000 would make a bit difference... am I wrong?
Also, if you are using the stock CLASS 2 memory card, then playing high bit-rate files will be problematic.
I know that you guys don't want to transcode, but 720p really kills battery.
I haven't tried on my new 16GB class 2 card, but with the 8GB that came with the phone I got smooth playback with 720HD with these settings:
MP4:
ffmpeg
1500kbps for video
48channels or whatever it is
160kbps sound
1280x720 pixels
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I've seen some nice videos on Youtube from Sony Ericsson promoters displaying Xperia Neo devices HDMI-wired to large TVs and it looks good with photos and videos shot from the in-built camera. But I'd like to hear from your experience playing movies, not stuff you filmed on your camera.
Is it possible to watch HD movies from the SD card on the TV through the HDMI? Does the Neo plays most format to begin with? Does is play any decent format at all with subtitles? Has anyone tried this?
yeah you can watch 720p movies so you can also watch that through hdmi
I know I could watch 720p videos, what I don't know about is compatibility, performance, and if it takes special video playback software. The examples I've seen were with specially tailored mp4 videos. Some HD videos come in AVI or MKV... does anyone know if this would be a problem with the Xperia Neo?
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By the way, I didn't see a single video player installed on the Xperia Neo I tested on the store. I might have missed it. On the video examples I've seen they use the standard gallery app.
I played .avi video files using MoboPlayer. I think that using third party video players you can play .mkv too (did not test it)
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I played .avi video files using MoboPlayer. I think that using third party video players you can play .mkv too (did not test it)
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Cool! HD video? What about performance?
Also, anyone ever used subtitles?
I have the neo and just got my hdmi cable. Have yet to test this either so would like to know as well. Don't have a tv with hdmi yet though. So can't test myself.
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I'm gonna get the Neo soon (its only just come out in N.Z shops) I was able to get my hands on one today to feel the build quality and I like it..
I was wondering if the HDMI port also works for the normal phone screen.. What I'm really after is to be able to plug the phone into a hotel LCD screen to write e-mails browse the web etc with a BT keyboard... some phone only seem to be able to play videos and look at photos over the HDMI port.. how is the Neo??
Kiwi
You can do everything through HDMI even games
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Ah that's good to know.
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Yeah, I'm buying one and gonna see for myself. It's supposed to arrive in a week.
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You can do everything through HDMI even games
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Awesome! that's all I needed to know.. now to find a cheap Neo.. to replace my trusty but severely modified mini.. HD Video and Skype video calling here I come!!
Kiwi
hdmi cable works with video with not higher resolution than 720p (tested with diceplayer and mx video player soft decoding, hardware does not support divix or mkv)
with software decoding i tried to play Full HD 1080p and did it, but it wasn't smooth, and video and sound was not synchronized.
Tested on not modified Neo. I would be very pleased if someone tested the same on overclocked device and say if it helped.
Oh okay, will have to test this myself as well, wonder if overclocks do help or maybe it wasn't smooth because of the software?, or both... we need more testers of hdmi, speaking of which, my cable came the other day, but left it at home, which at the moment is close to 2 hours away so can't test it this weekend any-way.
My neo finally arrived and I took it for some serious video testing.
Anything going on the neo goes on the TV through HDMI, be it video or game or app, or anything. Now to video performance.
I tried several different resolutions and file formats:
- Apparently the native app will only run mp4 and 3gp.
- Using MX Video Player I got full compatibility with all file formats and subtitles I tried (with different encodings too).
- File formats I tried: avi (I think it was xvid), flv, mp4, wmv, mkv (it says x264 here), mpg.
- Resolutions I tried: several up to 720p (sorry, I don't have access to anything larger)
The thing ran all 720p mp4 videos flawlessly. Other formats, the best it could do was run a 540p flv very well. 720p videos of other formats ran choppy and slow.
I converted the 720p film (6000 kbps bitrate) I had here to a 720p mp4 (5000 kbps bitrate just to improve file size). It ran flawlessly. Now am converting my films to that size and format when I want to watch them on the tv.
I'm loving the phone, it's very snappy and does the job.
I tried some 1080p mp4 videos. They run choppy too. It'd be pointless though, since the HDMI output from the neo is 720p anyway.
So, apparently, anything above 720p is off-limits with the original firmware.
Youtube on Neo --> TV out via HDMI?
Can you open the youtube application on your phone, then watch it on your TV through HDMI from your Neo?
evilRafael said:
I've seen some nice videos on Youtube from Sony Ericsson promoters displaying Xperia Neo devices HDMI-wired to large TVs and it looks good with photos and videos shot from the in-built camera. But I'd like to hear from your experience playing movies, not stuff you filmed on your camera.
Is it possible to watch HD movies from the SD card on the TV through the HDMI? Does the Neo plays most format to begin with? Does is play any decent format at all with subtitles? Has anyone tried this?
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I watched Tron HD 720p though my mobile on tv with English subtitles and everything went well except my battery
And In .mkv format 4.5GB
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I watched Tron HD 720p though my mobile on tv with English subtitles and everything went well except my battery
And In .mkv format 4.5GB
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How much battery does go away during 2h 720p movie? Phone screen is off during play?
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Can you open the youtube application on your phone, then watch it on your TV through HDMI from your Neo?
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I'll try this at home, but my guess is that you can do this normally, as anything that goes on the phone (you can play 3D games and watch them on the TV for example).
The drawback is that the video quality of Youtube videos on the phone is not HD, even if you turn on the "HQ" button.
I charged at same time as using hdmi big mistake cooked phone won't do that again
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I have searched a lot over google etc. about knowing if the smartphones with HDMI output capability actually outputs 720p or 1080p on HDTV or it is just that the screen resolution is upscaled to HD..
I can understand that all HD games are high in graphics but they are not actually 720p resolution certainly..but i am talking about HD movies which are of 1280*720 resolution which plays on my xperia neo v like a true HD video with high density of my screen with bravia engine enabled it looks awesome on my mobile..
But my query is when I connect it to HDTV by HDMI cable provided with xperia neo V...the same HD (1280*720) does not seems to be like HD..So is it that it outputs the mobile screen resolution by upscaling even in the case of HD files ?
Is that just happens with xperia neo v or all the android smartphones with HDMI output capabilities just upscales the resolution?
Please make it clear with few links possible as well as help on how to make the HDMI output for HD videos look as good as possible..(specially on my xperia neo v)
Thank you..
Its with everyphone coz HD output needs HD input too...
If input is 800x480, then it wud be upscaled to 720 or 1080p, though the videos will be in original(non-upscaled) resolution..
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Its with everyphone coz HD output needs HD input too...
If input is 800x480, then it wud be upscaled to 720 or 1080p, though the videos will be in original(non-upscaled) resolution..
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Thanks for the help so that means if I play 720p HD movies then it ISS actually thhe complete resolution right? And not the upscaled screen resolution..I can understand for non hd videos games etc..but the one which is HD is actually displayed in HD only right?
hello. I am facing an issue trying to play 3D mkv files with 3D subtitles over 1080p HDMI on a ainol novo 8 advanced.
imgur . com / RBCI4 - see it here
This image I took from a youtube video, but this is what happens with my tablet with hdmi out 1080p
The video player interface still at 1280x768 but the video is at its original 1080p
With hardware decoding running
I dont know if this is related to all android tablets/phones or just some kind
My challenge is to play mkv 3d with 3d subtitles. But this can only be done if the player interface, thus the subtitle position, is also full screen.
If this is a all android issue, so I will have to give up
Its hard enough find a player that plays 3d subtitles (mv player does, with .idx type embedded at the mkv file)
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Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do? I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p Help please :crying: Sorry bad english
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The best video format for the Sony Tablet S is MPEG-4 (mp4) encoded using a H.264 CODEC with a pixel size of 1280 x 720, a bit rate of 1500 kbps, and a frame rate of 29.97 fps. The video's audio should be stereo AAC with a sample rate of 44100 Hz and a bit rate of 96000 bps. I use and recommend Handbrake for converting videos and MX Player Pro for playing videos.
RulezMac said:
Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Actually you can just download Dice Player or BS Player Lite. This two video player can play any mkv files I load into it. even upto 1080p :laugh: :good:
1080p are terribly laggy
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1080p are terribly laggy
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But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
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But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Try QQPlayer. I had a lot of problems with video playing slower than audio when using Dice and MX, but QQ seemed to clear them up. Other than that, try using a video converter (such as Handbrake) and use the Apple TV preset. Works for me.
I'm also disappointed by the Tegra 2 performance in video. Here are some thoughts and questions.
From my personal tries, all video players (MX, BSPlayer, Dice) have about the same performance (perhaps BSPlayer with ARMv7 plugin is a little better). Does every video player Tegra 2 video playback implementation are based on the same library?
Is there some way to make some low-level (asm) optimization that would help? I would gladly take a look if there was a way to do it.
I've noticed that even 720P High profile have some lag! Not very serious, but noticeable!! For example, Rise of the Silver Surfer 720P-HP trailer (see h264info.com/clips.html) lags at several points in the video. It may be clearly seen with BSPlayer, when displaying FPS information ('(i)' button during video playback).
1080P Baseline Profile seems to play smoothly (and H/W acceleration is enabled).
Video players disables H/W acceleration for High Profile 1080P so, of course it is terribly laggy. Is it a technical requirement? Isn't there a way to force H/W acceleration for Full HD High profile videos, even if that wouldn't mean full speed?
Guys we all know our phone is well capable of playing 720p videos and MX player can play only audio in 1080p videos... but is it possible to play
1080p video on our device?????
What's the point,really? We don't have enough resolution and the clips take awful lot memory from sd card in real 1080p. Just convert the clips to smaller res and be happy with your Ray
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Try mxplayer, Works fine.for me
sony xperia ray ics 4.0.4
stock rom unrooted
matgras said:
Try mxplayer, Works fine.for me
sony xperia ray ics 4.0.4
stock rom unrooted
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I used Mxplayer too, but only play films p720 with bitrate < 2000 kbps. So surprise your ray can play p1080
All ray can play full hd!!!
Maybe you should overclock or have a different Rom!!!
But only with mp4 container...
Quite difficult with others!!!
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the best player for HD movies with no lags for xperia ray, is:
Dice Player
I test every players such az MX player, pot player, qq player and ... but the best one is dice player
What is the point for doing that. If you resize the film to ray's screen size
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Never Ever succeeded in playing a 1080p on my ray.
Now i am using kitkat 4.4.4. oc 1.6ghz. still the 1080 p is not played smoothly..
using mx player, the video is played perfectly. but the audio breakes in seconds.. is thete any fix??