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I've just gotten hold of one of these to use in the car as a media/sat nav gadget !
I was wondering if any techies might know if it was closer to an S1 or S2?
It has only come with android 2.2 but so far it seems pretty much as quick as my s2 but it would be good to get a newer rom on it
Any S2 devs going to get one? Hint hint!
Anyone? There doesn't seem to be much info on this android device at all yet its a pretty sweet mini tablet/media player!
It's basically samsungs answer to the ipod touch
Closer to the Galaxy S I since it has the same 1ghz processor. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a10010
I'm considering purchasing a Player 4.0 or 5.0 (Very likely a 5.0), partly as a bit of a hacktoy since there are no custom kernels for it. However I am curious how many users there are of the particular variants, since this forum covers AT LEAST four different devices: 4.0 US and International, and 5.0 US and International.
As a resident of the States, I'd be getting a U.S. variant, which is why this poll might be a bit U.S. biased by possibly lumping multiple international variants together. As i understand it, only one of the International variants has a custom kernel series going for it.
So - which version do people own?
I have the 4.0 US but apparently the majority of people have the International versions because it seems that the little development going on is for them
I have the 4.0 US version as well. It would be so sweet to finally have a developer for our device!
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I have the 4.0 US but apparently the majority of people have the International versions because it seems that the little development going on is for them
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I think it's partly because the international versions have been around MUCH longer, and they're not being marketed in the US much at all.
I've got the US 5.0 and love it. I rooted with SuperOneClick, used Tegrak to overclock just slightly to 1.1 from 1 to smooth out Netflix (audio didn't sync with video at stock speed, does now). I don't really miss not having custom ROMs to experiment with but I've got a rooted Nook Color and several older Android phones for that.
See clarification in next post down
So, just for clarity, the differences between the devices are?:
Galaxy S Wifi 4.0 = YP-GB1 (and presumably also the YP-G1?)
Galaxy S Wifi 5.0 = YP-G70 and YP-GB70 (my UK version with a physical home key is a YP-G70CW, so is the YP-GB70 the US version with all capacitive keys)
Galaxy Player 50 (3.2" screen) = YP-GB50
US versions have all capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Does that hold for both the 4.0 and 5.0?
International versions have a single physical home key between the two capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Again is that true for the 4.0 as well as my 5.0?
My understanding is that there's also a Korean version which has a mini-hdmi out port, no idea what the product code is for that nor what the keys are like.
If you look at the opensource.samsung.com website under "Mobile > MP3 Player & Etc." is shows a choice of product codes to choose from.
lardman said:
So, just for clarity, the differences between the devices are?:
Galaxy S Wifi 4.0 = YP-GB1 (and presumably also the YP-G1?)
Galaxy S Wifi 5.0 = YP-G70 and YP-GB70 (my UK version with a physical home key is a YP-G70CW, so is the YP-GB70 the US version with all capacitive keys)
Galaxy Player 50 (3.2" screen) = YP-GB50
US versions have all capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Does that hold for both the 4.0 and 5.0?
International versions have a single physical home key between the two capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Again is that true for the 4.0 as well as my 5.0?
My understanding is that there's also a Korean version which has a mini-hdmi out port, no idea what the product code is for that nor what the keys are like.
If you look at the opensource.samsung.com website under "Mobile > MP3 Player & Etc." is shows a choice of product codes to choose from.
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Actually, YP-GB1 and YP-GB70 are the korean versions of the players, which have an antenna and hdmi out. If you look here, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mp3-players, the galaxy player 4.0 is YP-G1CWY and the 5.0 is YP-G70C.
Using the international YP-G70 version
Probably going for the 5.0 due to personal preference.
For the US-based players, there is a single source tree download for both devices.
In addition, the source tree has defconfigs for international variants. Supporting International devices may be a simple defconfig change, just like I9100 vs I777. It may even be possible to build Korean kernels from the source.
The US 5.0 will, of course be the only one tested. I need to consider my strategy with regards to blind development.
Bought a 5.0,let the hacking begin!
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Got the US 5.0 and bought one for my son as well. I bought his a couple of days after Xmas and Best Buy was sold out of them in three different stores - bought the last one at the fourth store. So it must be a fair sales performer.
It sure would be nice to get some ROM's for this. CyanogenMod would be great.
AOSP bringups are tough - although a deodex job shouldn't be hard.
I'm more of a hardware/kernel guy than a userspace guy. Even extended power menu mods aren't easy for me.
Turns out the US 5.0 variant has the MC1N2, not the WM8994.
Actually, looks like both 5.0 variants...
Entropy512 said:
Turns out the US 5.0 variant has the MC1N2, not the WM8994.
Actually, looks like both 5.0 variants...
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It was a big let down for me to find out that it has a Yamaha DAC instead of the Wolfson. The only possible tweak seems to be a fix called Voodoo LOUDER fix by supercurio, but the fix is not ported to Galaxy Player yet.
Voodoo LOUDER only gets you 6 dB volume.
Considering that with my earbuds, half volume on media player + half volume of the earbud volume control is damn loud, no real need for that.
I have an international G70CW/XAZ version (for Brazil).
YP-G70CW/WON in Peru
The one I got off the US website Woot.com is a an international YP-G70CW/TTT
I fully bricked it. It's soft bricked now due to Android booting errors and I can't find an original Froyo 2.2.2 pit file to back track out of the bad GB update. The rom offered in one thread does not repartition successfully in Odin so I assume the file is not there.
I'm looking to manually fix the offending partitions if I could figure out what they were.
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Bought a 5.0,let the hacking begin!
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My week just got a bit better. Soooo much more development is going on for this player! You made an excellent choice. I am looking forward to more of your work. I never realized you didn't even have a player. I use your kernel, and enjoy it quite a bit. Thank you for all of your work and am looking forward to more.
Wow just saw how old this post is... Well thank you for tour kernel lol
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bra2006 said:
I have an international G70CW/XAZ version (for Brazil).
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Same here, bro.
PS: Except for the fact that mine is bricked.
Hi everybody, i own a galaxy tab plus running honeycomb 3.2. I got rid of my ipad mainly because of android's flash support. I use to watch videos mainly on sites as ign, gametrailers, gamespot etc but my tablet's performance is very bad. I don't have any problems in youtube even if i watch hd videos. Recently i checked other tablets' flash performance on those sites and they had the same problem,so i guess this is a honeycomb issue. Has anyone else the same problem? Tablets which are running ics have better flash support? Please is there a solution? Sorry for my bad English
I too have noticed that the flash starts to studder. I actually found that to be quite disappointing.
i must mention that my gs ii which has the same exynos processor, has by far better performance both on gb and ics. Can anyone else post his experience from his tablet's flash support?
Tab 7.0 Plus flash stutters. Single core low end processor nook color is much better. Seems to be honeycomb problem. Im surprised there hasnt been more complaining about this. Its a serious problem
Anyone have a good compilation of Galaxy player info.? I'm wondering about a few things.
1: How well does it root?
2: Can it go to ICS?
3: Any particular cons to the model?
4: How good is the screen, 4.0 vs. 5.0
5: Can it be soft rooted a la B&N Nook.
Regards,
Mike
panamamike said:
Anyone have a good compilation of Galaxy player info.? I'm wondering about a few things.
1: How well does it root?
2: Can it go to ICS?
3: Any particular cons to the model?
4: How good is the screen, 4.0 vs. 5.0
5: Can it be soft rooted a la B&N Nook.
Regards,
Mike
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I managed to root it very easily using SuperOneClick. However I was running stock 2.2.2, but it appears there are a few issues rooting 2.3.6 roms
Yes it can go to ICS and there are many CM9 and AOKP based roms in the dev section
The only real cons I can see are no official ICS from samsung and as the galaxy players are not too popular, there is less dev work for them compared to other devices
I think the screen on the 4.0 is slightly better as it has the same resolution, but a smaller screen so more dpi. It is also a SuperClear LCD vs a TFT screen on the 5.0
I'm not too sure what soft rooting is (just googled it quickly), but full root is available
I suggest you visit this thread for more info.
Supermaster34 said:
I managed to root it very easily using SuperOneClick. However I was running stock 2.2.2, but it appears there are a few issues rooting 2.3.6 roms
Yes it can go to ICS and there are many CM9 and AOKP based roms in the dev section
The only real cons I can see are no official ICS from samsung and as the galaxy players are not too popular, there is less dev work for them compared to other devices
I think the screen on the 4.0 is slightly better as it has the same resolution, but a smaller screen so more dpi. It is also a SuperClear LCD vs a TFT screen on the 5.0
I'm not too sure what soft rooting is (just googled it quickly), but full root is available
I suggest you visit this thread for more info.
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Thanks for the info., I'm surprised the Galaxy isn't a more popular device.
Have any other potentials suggestions for a 5 inch Android device?
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Mike
the sgp 5.0 has more devs working on it than the 4.0.
but I don't get the point of choosing the 5.0 over the 4.0 or a real smartphone like for instance the galaxy ace, except the bigger screen.
-pixel density is lower
-yamaha DAC
The reason why I choose the SGP 4.0 over a new smartphone (200€ were my max budget), was the Wolfson DAC. Music quality is very good.
Of course you should use high quality mp3 or flac and good ear/head phones.
I have HTC with 4 inch screen and this player with 5.0 and like much more bigger screen..i use player more then htc...htc is just for making calls and sms and to make mobile hotspot if in that place there is no wifi.
800x480 on 5 inch is still better resolution then any 10.1 android tablet on the market
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natkingcole said:
the sgp 5.0 has more devs working on it than the 4.0.
but I don't get the point of choosing the 5.0 over the 4.0 or a real smartphone like for instance the galaxy ace, except the bigger screen.
-pixel density is lower
-yamaha DAC
The reason why I choose the SGP 4.0 over a new smartphone (200€ were my max budget), was the Wolfson DAC. Music quality is very good.
Of course you should use high quality mp3 or flac and good ear/head phones.
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I'm actually wanting to use it as a nice little tablet for browsing ect. Yeah the DAC would be nice, but it's not that important for my application. I'm assuming the Yamaha DAC is decent. Are there any measurements or reviews showing the difference in quality between the Yammy and Wolfson?
Can an Android cellphone be used without SIM if unlocked?
Regards,
Mike
Supermaster34 said:
I managed to root it very easily using SuperOneClick. However I was running stock 2.2.2, but it appears there are a few issues rooting 2.3.6 roms
Yes it can go to ICS and there are many CM9 and AOKP based roms in the dev section
The only real cons I can see are no official ICS from samsung and as the galaxy players are not too popular, there is less dev work for them compared to other devices
I think the screen on the 4.0 is slightly better as it has the same resolution, but a smaller screen so more dpi. It is also a SuperClear LCD vs a TFT screen on the 5.0
I'm not too sure what soft rooting is (just googled it quickly), but full root is available
I suggest you visit this thread for more info.
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For #5: Maybe soft root is the wrong term. For Nook, it's possible to install the ROM onto the SDCard as opposed to the internal memory, making it possible to dual boot and not overwrite the internal ROM. I think there's still some level of root CWM needs to be installed.
Here is info on MultiBoot
Regards,
Mike
panamamike said:
For #5: Maybe soft root is the wrong term. For Nook, it's possible to install the ROM onto the SDCard as opposed to the internal memory, making it possible to dual boot and not overwrite the internal ROM. I think there's still some level of root CWM needs to be installed.
Here is info on MultiBoot
Regards,
Mike
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I don't think dual boot is available for the galaxy player range yet. It might be possible in the future though...
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1: How well does it root?
I got mine rooted using an older version of super oneclick on the stock rom which is 2.3.5
2: Can it go to ICS?
I prefer not to. Way to many bugs if you are going to put on a different rom.
3: Any particular cons to the model?
I have the 5 inch and the only con I have with it is that you really can't use your external sd card to put apps on it.
4: How good is the screen, 4.0 vs. 5.0
I like the 5 inch screen. It is very clear and very bright.
5: Can it be soft rooted a la B&N Nook.
This question is unclear to me. Rooting is software based. All what you are doing is making yourself an administrator. Allmost like changing a standard account on a Windows pc to an administrator.
I would recommend installing GenericGinger ROM and Entropy512's (I believe that's how you spell his name) kernal. Quicker charge rate and overclocks the cpu to 1.2 GHz. You would destroy the retarted Apple devices to the grave they deserve.
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Hi,
I'm going to be buying a Samsung S2 for a family member as a backup phone but want to put CynanogenMod on it and change the pit size... but the variants of S2 are confusing, the family member currently has a Samsung S2 9100G and has http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 installed.
I have the option of buying a cheap working phone from someone I know but it is an 9100 model, one of their original batch, is this compatible with the ROM and pit files from above?
Or should I pass on buying it and instead get an 9100G? What other ones are ok and obviously work in the UK?
Hyflex said:
Hi,
I'm going to be buying a Samsung S2 for a family member as a backup phone but want to put CynanogenMod on it and change the pit size... but the variants of S2 are confusing, the family member currently has a Samsung S2 9100G and has http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 installed.
I have the option of buying a cheap working phone from someone I know but it is an 9100 model, one of their original batch, is this compatible with the ROM and pit files from above?
Or should I pass on buying it and instead get an 9100G? What other ones are ok and obviously work in the UK?
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I would go with the international version(i9100). It is more common, and there is more development for it. The "G" version has a different chipset, which makes it incompatible with roms from the i9100. From what I've heard the TI chip isn't as good overall as the exynos chip in performance either, although the numbers are the same(1.2ghz)
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I would go with the international version(i9100). It is more common, and there is more development for it. The "G" version has a different chipset, which makes it incompatible with roms from the i9100. From what I've heard the TI chip isn't as good overall as the exynos chip in performance either, although the numbers are the same(1.2ghz)
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Thanks for your reply, it's more common really? Three other family members have had S2's and they were all i9100G.
I noticed you said:
international version (i9100)
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Which is going against what I read kind off... According to wikipedia:
Galaxy S II - Model GT-I9100G
The Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100G was released in late 2011, and is usually sold instead of the original GT-I9100 in certain markets (mostly Asia and some parts of Europe). An overview of the Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100G can be seen on Samsung's official website.[61] It features a Texas Instruments OMAP4430 SoC instead of the Exynos 4210 in the GT-I9100. It is visually identical to the GT-I9100, as well as having the same 1.2 GHz processor speed and dual-core ARM Cortex A9 processor technology. However, the SoC is of a different design and the Mali-400 GPU has been replaced by a PowerVR SGX 540 GPU. This difference in the SoC makes this variant incompatible with custom ROMs intended for the I9100, but it has been steadily gaining its own aftermarket support (such as from CyanogenMod[62]) due to the relative ease of development and the openness of the TI OMAP platform..
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Hyflex said:
Thanks for your reply, it's more common really? Three other family members have had S2's and they were all i9100G.
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More common worldwide, meaning it has more developers and variety of roms etc. Perhaps where you are the "G" is more common as it was only introduced into a limited market.
The difference in hardware is negligable though, I only meant to say they are incompatible between them. The TI is indeed open source, so if you want to develop your own rom/kernels and create your own device tree/kernel tree etc. it would be much easier from a purely aosp base.
I guess at the end of the day, if you just want to install a rom, then forget it, either one will do. And the fact you have the files already for the "G" it might be easier to get another. If you plan to update the rom in the future or try a few different ones to see which one you prefer, I would recommend the i9100
noppy22 said:
More common worldwide, meaning it has more developers and variety of roms etc. Perhaps where you are the "G" is more common as it was only introduced into a limited market.
The difference in hardware is negligable though, I only meant to say they are incompatible between them. The TI is indeed open source, so if you want to develop your own rom/kernels and create your own device tree/kernel tree etc. it would be much easier from a purely aosp base.
I guess at the end of the day, if you just want to install a rom, then forget it, either one will do. And the fact you have the files already for the "G" it might be easier to get another. If you plan to update the rom in the future or try a few different ones to see which one you prefer, I would recommend the i9100
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I'm rather confused now... I installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 onto 2x i9100G phones and it works perfectly... but yet it isn't a G version of the ROM when I should have installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-2-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1s-os12-t3103494
How are they even working?!
Hyflex said:
I'm rather confused now... I installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 onto 2x i9100G phones and it works perfectly... but yet it isn't a G version of the ROM when I should have installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-2-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1s-os12-t3103494
How are they even working?!
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I have no idea!! I don't have a i9100g, but everthing I've read indicates it is not possible. Can you take a couple of screenshots in "About phone" in settings with rom build and device variant? The only thing I can think of is if they used the same chipset as i9100 for some of the i9100g's at some point?? I don't know
noppy22 said:
I have no idea!! I don't have a i9100g, but everthing I've read indicates it is not possible. Can you take a couple of screenshots in "About phone" in settings with rom build and device variant? The only thing I can think of is if they used the same chipset as i9100 for some of the i9100g's at some point?? I don't know
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I checked one and it was the i9100, I swear the other is an i9100G though, if it isn't then I'm seeing things and got incredibly lucky flashing that ROM lol, silly me.