Just started with a stock Amaze, new to the HTC scene, looking to root. Is there a way to unlock the bootloader outside of HTCdev'? Their site is down, and the rest is just tedious.
Thanks for the help.
the website isnt* down, and if you are using hasoon's aio toolkit you would still need to go to the htcdev site in order to unlock the bootloader
Omg, I heard someone mention that unlocking phones was OUTLAWED in the UNITED STATES recently.
Is that **** true?
No ****ing way that manufacturers are going to charge half a grand for basically a rental device.
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Unlocking wihhout carrier permission is now illegal. Unlocking and rooting are not the same thing. Unlocking they mean taking tour phone and being able to use it with another carrier.
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Mal_toofy said:
Omg, I heard someone mention that unlocking phones was OUTLAWED in the UNITED STATES recently.
Is that **** true?
No ****ing way that manufacturers are going to charge half a grand for basically a rental device.
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Carrier/sim unlocking is now illegal, it has nothing to do with unlocking bootloaders...
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Carrier/sim unlocking is now illegal, it has nothing to do with unlocking bootloaders...
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For a second I thought that said "Carrier-ism".
Carrier-ism should be illegal
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Just to clarify for those who don't read the entire thread, unlocking is not illegal; it just has to be done with the carrier permission. It is illegal to unlock the SIM card via any other means.
EDIT: The news reports I have read say that it does not apply to phones purchased before this year, only newer phones purchased after Dec 31, 2012.
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It's been a couple months. Any update to S-Off for 1.50 version users?
The current update below
Status:no update.
I know it's a ***** to wait.
It won't happen. Sorry but EVO 3d days blow.
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The current update below
Status:no update.
I know it's a ***** to wait.
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Funny but is the truth
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Ics is suppose to come with unlocked bootloader what I read maybe wrong
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blazerboy567 said:
Ics is suppose to come with unlocked bootloader what I read maybe wrong
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I doubt anything is ever going to come with an unlocked bootloader. People could mess up their phones and say it happened during an OTA. They won't be able to tell if it was really during an OTA or they did it themselves since the person would have S-OFF either way. They would either have to cancel their warranty or not have phones with unlocked bootloaders.
I understand the wait, but at least some word from Rev; 'hey guys still working on the 1.50 hboot unlock...' .
Here is what pisses me off royally. See, HTC is requiring users to sign a electronic document that bypasses the Magnuson Moss Act; requires manufactures to prove that the alteration is what caused the warranty claim. Ie, car owner comes to the dealership because engine blew. Dealership notices that owner put on aftermarket exhaust, dealership will not warranty the engine. HTC is technically bypassing all that stating that rooting your phone, you are opting out of any factory or extended warranty. Ie, phone no turny on, HTC > You = po3ned . Sure they'll take a look at it, only to tell you that it is now going to cost you $xxx.xx to fix it.
Its odd that they say unlock the phone but all they do is unlock the mmc protection to the file system and still void parts of the warranty.
The boot partition where the kernel lives is still protected and unflashable without using the work around.
Seems to me they are benefiting from this "unlock" more than anyone.
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
lafester said:
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
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You make a very good point, but I have one word for you; partnership. If you go back and read HTC and Sprint's Terms and Agreements it states that by agreeing to the T&A you are allowing the sharing of information. If Sprint says that by agreeing to the unlock you void the 'manufacture's' warranty, then you are doing just that by agreeing to the unlock.
But again, I applaud you for thinking outside the box. For once some people are beginning to see behind the facade.
You can flash everything but radios , correct me if I'm wrong
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lafester said:
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
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Htc never said what? Did you even read the thing you agreed to when you went to use their "unlock"?
The manufacturer 1 year warranty is done with HTC not Sprint
Or are you talking about something ibcompletely missed.....
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You can flash everything but radios , correct me if I'm wrong
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Or kernels. But you can use fasboot...
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Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader to gain perm root without htc dev and keeping warrenty?? If not should I return this phone and get one that can be? And if so, which phone would be best?
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You're worrying over nothing. If the device is defective due to manufacterer defect, and breaks down becaue of said default. They will honor warranty/exchanges since they are the ones at fault. Now if you fragged your phone because of an oc, bad flash, wrong software, that's your own bad and you're on your own. Unless you have insurance and the phone met its untimely end under your vehicle.
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Ok.. I have had 3 phones that I rooted and never had a problem. I just didn't want htc to tell Verizon that I did it and if something did happen that they wouldn't give me another.
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Is there anyway to unlock the bootloader to gain perm root without htc dev and keeping warrenty?? If not should I return this phone and get one that can be? And if so, which phone would be best?
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if you want to unlock the bootloader and gain perm root
and still keep warrenty, then you should go with galaxy nexus.
Hey does anyone know of a method that gives soff for the dna? You guys unlocking using the unlock bootloader site do realize that there are methods better than that on other similar devices. When i got my evo lte i used a method that gave root and soff and i never unlocked anything. Think im gonna wait a few and give it time.
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Hey does anyone know of a method that gives soff for the dna? You guys unlocking using the unlock bootloader site do realize that there are methods better than that on other similar devices. When i got my evo lte i used a method that gave root and soff and i never unlocked anything. Think im gonna wait a few and give it time.
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obviously s-off is preferable to dev unlock
however, in lieu of no current s-off method, dev unlock is better than nothing
They will find one. They always do.
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however, in lieu of no current s-off method, dev unlock is better than nothing
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Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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I dev unlocked my rezound and had no problems getting a replacement when memory failed. I think they threaten it, but verizon doesn't care for exchanges. HTC though, might.
I don't know actually. I might get this phone.
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Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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One xl does not have s-off. In fact, no modern HTC phones withOUT sdcard have soff yet.
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I recently sent my HTC one to HTC for resetting issues, I was issued an out of warranty fee. How did they find out my device had been unlocked at one point? I used revone to lock my device and I s on.. I'm running the new tmobile 1.44 patched firmware. Im wondering if HTC has created some sort of flash counter like Samsung??
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I recently sent my HTC one to HTC for resetting issues, I was issued an out of warranty fee. How did they find out my device had been unlocked at one point? I used revone to lock my device and I s on.. I'm running the new tmobile 1.44 patched firmware. Im wondering if HTC has created some sort of flash counter like Samsung??
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That's actually pretty interesting. Why did you send it to HTC rather than T-Mobile though?
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Maybe the unlock code being used and associating itself with the phone?
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Was it a hardware issue? You should be able to call them and have that waived. They cannot legally refuse to honor the hardware warranty because an unlock code was issued... even if they could prove you actually used it.
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Because my device was SIM unlocked and didn't want some crappy refurb..tmobile is hell to get a SIM unlocked pin
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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yea i immediately call BS on HTC for that. even before i unlocked my phone it got REALLY hot. kinda an ass move though saying that because you unlocked it immediately made your phone overheat and magicly cause damage.
Somebody should sue them for being misleading. The website should say " it will void your warranty" not this may or maynot crap.
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Somebody should sue them for being misleading. The website should say " it will void your warranty" not this may or maynot crap.
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i wish manufactures would let users modify the $670 device theyve purchased. i mean its like buying a laptop but being told you cannot use the backspace key or you void your warranty....
but yes i noticed that too. it says "may void your warranty" instead of "will void your warranty"
I agree an unlocked device is almost impossible to hard brick...with the RUU it's impossible. So yea so long as you don't s off..but flashing roms takes money out of the carriers pocket and they can't persuaid you to purchase a new device to get that fancy upgrade.
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I agree an unlocked device is almost impossible to hard brick...with the RUU it's impossible. So yea so long as you don't s off..but flashing roms takes money out of the carriers pocket and they can't persuaid you to purchase a new device to get that fancy upgrade.
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yup cant really do much about it i suppose. and well i know a few ways you could brick the One but youd have to be intentionally trying to do so.
call BS on this and get your phone back from HTC.
what you should have done was go to T-mobile first, they have a one year software warranty, regardless of what you do to your phone (or so i was told). if you haven't paid the fee already i would highly recommend doing this now.
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handman29 said:
HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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Apparently at this time without the RUU for tmobile, if you unroot and relock, the bootloader will show relocked. If there is a way to not show relocked on the bootloader, maybe you someone can share the info.
Will this happen to me if I'm sending my phone to T-Mobile? I'm complaining for the camera issue.
There is an official RUU for T-Mobile, it also removed the ability to revone. Ry how have a fix for that by dropping back to the .8 RUU. You remove the relocked message by having s-off, then using revone commands to change unlocked to locked. This is in the revone posts
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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What is the issue?
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As soon as you unlock the bootloader to use REVONE you voided any warranty that isn't cosmetic damage to hardware pretty much, and you do say I understand this voids my warranty when getting that code to unlock through HTCDEV.... I'm confused as to your confusion OP.
I was thinking about ordering the developer edition through HTC and I would like to know if it has a true unlocked bootloader. Any thoughts before I place the order??
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I was thinking about ordering the developer edition through HTC and I would like to know if it has a true unlocked bootloader. Any thoughts before I place the order??
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As far as I know it has an unlocked bootloader. Why are you asking in the Sprint forum though? Do you plan on sim unlocking for Sprint? Thats going to be a tedious job.
Yeah I have Sprint. And I know the HTCDev tool doesn't unlock a stock bootloader completely. I'd rather not buy it to find out its half-ass'd unlocked
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Yeah I have Sprint. And I know the HTCDev tool doesn't unlock a stock bootloader completely. I'd rather not buy it to find out its half-ass'd unlocked
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Are you referring to S-Off? I don't follow on HTCDev doesn't unlock bootloader completely.
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Are you referring to S-Off? I don't follow on HTCDev doesn't unlock bootloader completely.
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Yes S-Off. Sorry, I've been working 80 hours this week and kinda brain dead
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Yes S-Off. Sorry, I've been working 80 hours this week and kinda brain dead
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ok, but I do believe the Developer Edition will not work on Sprint or Verizon as it does not have the necessary band for CDMA and LTE. I would double check that. I had no problem unlocking bootloader or S-OFF through Sunshine. Even after the current OTA.
I do believe sprint and Verizon need to provision a device to get it to work on their network. Why not just buy it from sprint if that's your intention. Its easy as pie to unlock.
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I do believe sprint and Verizon need to provision a device to get it to work on their network. Why not just buy it from sprint if that's your intention. Its easy as pie to unlock.
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Currently, there is no solution to unlock it, unless until now
TKTMOBILE said:
Currently, there is no solution to unlock it, unless until now
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Ummm... HTC Dev works fine. Did it myself... Unless you mean Sim slot
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Ummm... HTC Dev works fine. Did it myself... Unless you mean Sim slot
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Yes, I meant SIM Unlock. HTCDev unlocks bootloader, works fine
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