Kernel Source Code - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys, just wondering. I am sure a lot of people are anxious for this, but does anyone have any input on when HTC may release the Kernel Source Code? They legally have to, correct?
I really want a custom ICS AOSP Rom..

Pretty sure its already available via HTC dev.
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It is not available on htcdev.com yet, technically they have 90 days from release of the kernel to release the source.
Unless they are going to try to change their image now... don't expect the source to be up until the 90th day or later.

Yeah, just looked. I made an assumption before I bothered looking.
Its not available yet.
Sorry.
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ughhh 90 days..... That would make me upset... anyone have any HTC source code stories based on other phones? Do they have a bad rep for taking a long time?

musicfreak190 said:
ughhh 90 days..... That would make me upset... anyone have any HTC source code stories based on other phones? Do they have a bad rep for taking a long time?
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Could be here tomorrow, could be late past the 90 like the latest One X JB source.
The DNA source was posted the day the phone went out.
Nobody knows and anyone's guess would be just that. A guess.
We hope for sooner then 90 days, but there's nothing saying it will be before then by any means.
It's just like before, we unknowingly wait...

musicfreak190 said:
ughhh 90 days..... That would make me upset... anyone have any HTC source code stories based on other phones? Do they have a bad rep for taking a long time?
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Yes they do. All the source they ever release for us is at the last possible moment.
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The sooner they release it the sooner Devs make a AOSP JB ROM

I haven't run the Thunderbolt for 2 different phones now, but I'm still anxiously awaiting HTC releasing the kernel source. I like to flash roms on my old phones, just to see what life would be like if I were still on them.
4.1.1 on OG Droid
4.0.4 on Thunderbolt
4.2.1 on Galaxy Nexus
4.1.1 on Galaxy Note 2
Now if only I could shoehorn Android onto my old Samsung SCH-i760...

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ICS source to be released soon....

Earlier today, Dan Morrill of the Android Team posted a message to the Android Building Google group updating the status of code availability due to recent server downtime.
“We plan to release the source for the recently-announced Ice Cream Sandwich soon, once its available on devices.”
So guys.....expect CM9 and other roms based on ics soon....
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it will not be soon.. haha.
the only chance we have of anything is likely to be our great dev's here workin on it
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once its available on devices.
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Another month till that happens.....
Soon is not a month......
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It would be out by early November.......as compared to releasing source for honeycomb....this is soon!
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haha, i think the point i was trying to make was that we have evo 3d's... it won't be for a little while. HTC would still need to get a project team together, integrate the software with our device, build a kernel for it, and test/troubleshoot.
that could be months away before you even hear about an official release from them. i think our dev's here have a better shot at getting a fully functional rom out (as far as a timeframe goes)
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It would be out by early November.......as compared to releasing source for honeycomb....this is soon!
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dude they have always done this. it will be pushed to AOSP the day of or after the phone is released. just like with FroYo and Gingerbread. Honeycomb is the only exception to the rule.
So yeah depending on your defn of soon, itll be out in November once the actual phone is released. NOT a moment before though b/c thats not how they do things.
In the early days of android there have been unofficial leaks
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haha, i think the point i was trying to make was that we have evo 3d's... it won't be for a little while. HTC would still need to get a project team together, integrate the software with our device, build a kernel for it, and test/troubleshoot.
that could be months away before you even hear about an official release from them. i think our dev's here have a better shot at getting a fully functional rom out (as far as a timeframe goes)
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i would assume manufacturers have special access to this source code months before release. my guess is we get the ota a month and half after the nexus is released. What im wondering is how htc will integrate sense with ICS? will they remove parts of sense since ICS is more than adequate?
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Guys, don't count on any form of ICS.... AOSP or Sense any time this year. Just let it go... =p
If you want ICS, go to (bleh) Verizon or wait til next year when someone gets it rolling on our phones.
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Guys, don't count on any form of ICS.... AOSP or Sense any time this year. Just let it go... =p
If you want ICS, go to (bleh) Verizon or wait til next year when someone gets it rolling on our phones.
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As far as custom ROMs go, we're close to getting a bootable ICS sdk port and when source drops, we should have a stable (no 4G, sound, camera, 3D, etc.) ICS ROM weeks after.
Cyanogenmod 9 alphas should also be here around a month or two after the source drops.
But as far as an HTC update goes, I think we'll be seeing it in February-March.
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Guys, don't count on any form of ICS.... AOSP or Sense any time this year. Just let it go... =p
If you want ICS, go to (bleh) Verizon or wait til next year when someone gets it rolling on our phones.
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Thats a pretty late Christmas present...
yousefak said:
As far as custom ROMs go, we're close to getting a bootable ICS sdk port and when source drops, we should have a stable (no 4G, sound, camera, 3D, etc.) ICS ROM weeks after.
Cyanogenmod 9 alphas should also be here around a month or two after the source drops.
But as far as an HTC update goes, I think we'll be seeing it in February-March.
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Bootable SDK port is not at all what I was talking about. That's gonna be a butchered up mess...
I agree with you about CM9 alpha builds.. but that goes along with what I said about not getting it this year. The source won't drop until the Galaxy Nexus is released..which is in November.
I don't really see how you can call a rom with no sound, camera, 4G, 3D stable tho lol. It likely will have MMS issues as well. That isn't at all stable.
So yea, don't expect anything ICS flavored this year other than something you can boot up and play around with, then wipe off when you actually need your phone =p
I'm ok with it tho, I would like it ASAP but I understand it takes time... and I'm not into flashing anything that's ..well, butchered.
I think the real concern will be how much HTC killsoff the look and feel of ICS with Sense.
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i would assume manufacturers have special access to this source code months before release. my guess is we get the ota a month and half after the nexus is released. What im wondering is how htc will integrate sense with ICS? will they remove parts of sense since ICS is more than adequate?
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This is the same thing I'm curious about. I would love to see the new color scheme on Sense, but it never seems like they change much of Sense come new up dates.
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Ruki_Uki said:
This is the same thing I'm curious about. I would love to see the new color scheme on Sense, but it never seems like they change much of Sense come new up dates.
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You and me both. I'd like to see them go the *gasp* Samsung route and just leave the vanilla android icons and such. Tone Sense waaay down and just concentrate on other ways to make it better.
As much as I don't see them leaving it very vanilla, at some point they are going to have to realize that people are getting tired of Sense and change it up.
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Guys, don't count on any form of ICS.... AOSP or Sense any time this year. Just let it go... =p
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A month and a half is plenty of time to get ICS running. Distros like CyanogenMod are already set up to merge changes that it will bring. I'm too lazy to keep searching for it, but Cyanogen has publicly said that they're prepped for the changes
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A month and a half is plenty of time to get ICS running. Distros like CyanogenMod are already set up to merge changes that it will bring. I'm too lazy to keep searching for it, but Cyanogen has publicly said that they're prepped for the changes
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It took longer than 1.5 months for GB, You MIGHT get an alpha but I doubt it. There are 2 major holidays left that are going to impact development, and we don't even have cm7 on our 3Ds yet aside from an alpha.
We can debate it but none of us really know. I'm just making a guess based on past experiences. I'm fine with it regardless tho, ICS looks nice visually, but, that's about all I care about in the new android 4.0. The last android update I wanted was 2.2, since then they have been kinda meh

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We need RIL. Bug HTC and VZW for the kernel. #HTCUSA #VZW
Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Given that we have already received nothing from them, is there really anything to lose?
I mean, the only thing they can hold back is the ICS official ROM, but we already have that...
If they do release the official rom, they cannot legally hold back the kernel source. So, what can they do?
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
THEY CAN HAVE US ALL ARRESTED FOR INTERNETS HARASSMENT, CHARLES CARREON HAS FREE TIME NOW.
Actually, the only thing we can do is keep asking, hashtag it up gentlemen, but keep it CLASSY. Type like English is your first language. Though they do hate bad PR, totally going to put #HatesCustomers on the end.
It worked for allowing access to unlock the booloader.
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SirSigma said:
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
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Someone do this, please.
A2Aegis said:
Someone do this, please.
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Go right ahead
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Go right ahead
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Any advice what I should write?
VZW could give a **** less and bugging them will never result in anything positive development-wise; they will release on whatever schedule/circumstances suits them, customers be damned...but I'm all for pounding on HTC via social sites or other avenues, i.e. petitions, letters, etc.
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Any advice what I should write?
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Tell them how sense slows down the device and we want AOSP but that's only possible with source and you should probably tell them about all the drama that goes on around here because we don't have it, oh and all the devs leaving us
You nuts? You gotta at least tell them something they want to hear. Try something kind of like this:
To whom it may concern,
I am an aspiring Android developer and for years, I've absolutely loved Android devices from HTC. In fact, the Galaxy SIII, Nexus, and other competitor phones have zero appeal to me because I've always loved HTC. I don't feel comfortable with any other hardware manufacturer because I know I can always expect great design, ergonomics, and a manufacturer-designed user interface that makes sense (so much so that you guys even call it Sense).
My latest device is the HTC Rezound, but I upgraded before the One X and other devices were coming out because Verizon is the carrier in my area with the best signal quality. I love my Rezound because it reeks of the superb design and quality I can always expect from HTC. However, I like to develop on it as well, and I've recently hit a few snags because I lack the kernel source for the phone. So I ask as a loyal customer, could you please let me have it?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Your fan,
[NAME HERE]
Their not going to release a ICS kernel source when it hasn't even officially been rolled out yet in my opinion. Hopefully when it is released they drop the source quickly.
HTC Rezound
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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Sirsigma and people like home are the reason companies are even willing to read what customers say, I've written to HTC about this myself already and everyone should do the same.
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con247 said:
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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7 MONTHS?! That should be illegal. What the hell was stopping them?
As for our source, I doubt they are allowed by Verizon to release anything before OTA drops. Which will not happen until their new cash cow (Droid Incredible 4G) has had time to move plenty of units. So... probably no sooner than 2 weeks from now. That's if you're optimistic.
"...reeks of the superb design and quality..."
Perhaps not the best choice of words, lol.
But seriously, thanks for trying. This is too good a phone for HTC to let ignominiously die.
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con247 said:
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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WookieFan said:
There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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I think desire hd is runnymede. Not the original one
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Okay, I sent them an email. I hope we actually hear back about this.

Custom Kernals for ICS leak?

Any of the Tbolt custom Kernals work with the new leaked ICS? I think it could be much improved with a little overclocking.
Wiseblood said:
Any of the Tbolt custom Kernals work with the new leaked ICS? I think it could be much improved with a little overclocking.
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No the gingerbread kernels do not work with ICS. We just have to wait and hope imoseyon makes a new kernel for ICS soon.
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Not much out there just yet.
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No the gingerbread kernels do not work with ICS. We just have to wait and hope imoseyon makes a new kernel for ICS soon.
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It will be 90 days before devs are allowed to make a kernel. We will have to use stock until then.
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UHHHH, no....they can make a kernel whenever they want. And why does everybody keep saying this 90 day bull ****?! They haven't officially sent out an ota...this is a damn leaked build!! 90 day gpl won't mean **** untill we get an OFFICIAL build....
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UHHHH, no....they can make a kernel whenever they want. And why does everybody keep saying this 90 day bull ****?! They haven't officially sent out an ota...this is a damn leaked build!! 90 day gpl won't mean **** untill we get an OFFICIAL build....
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So I guess you're going to make us a kernel before that time then. I guess since you clearly know so much then you can handle a lawsuit with HTC.
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Why the hostilities to be me you can make the kernal and use the kernal just dnt post it and if u want to share it send it to ppl you trust.through email or something
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UHHHH, no....they can make a kernel whenever they want. And why does everybody keep saying this 90 day bull ****?! They haven't officially sent out an ota...this is a damn leaked build!! 90 day gpl won't mean **** untill we get an OFFICIAL build....
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The 90 day GPL thing is something constructed by HTC so they don't have to release source, and we tolerate it for some reason. Technically source is supposed to drop the minute the OTA goes out according to GPL v2(which the Linux kernel is under).
Give it a read, there is nothing about a 90 day wait:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html
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So I guess you're going to make us a kernel before that time then. I guess since you clearly know so much then you can handle a lawsuit with HTC.
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You are legally able to make a kernel before then, but you have to be able to do it without the HTC source. HTC can't do anything to you for building a kernel that works on the Thunderbolt. The 90 days is because most devs can't make a kernel without the source, but a kernel could be built and openly distributed before the source drops(or the OTA) with no repercussions.
Besides, I really doubt they would attempt to punish a developer that actually makes their phone worth owning. I hate sense with a passion, but ICS is ICS, and until source drops I'll be content with it(nothing against Jester, but I'm not a fan of all the changed in JMOD)
Someone on band said they flashed adrynalyn's 3++ kernel but my bolt never booted after I flashed it.
I remember hearing that tiamat had a kernel made and posted should the bolt get ICS. But I don't think anyone has tried it.
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Atamagaokashii said:
Someone on band said they flashed adrynalyn's 3++ kernel but my bolt never booted after I flashed it.
I remember hearing that tiamat had a kernel made and posted should the bolt get ICS. But I don't think anyone has tried it.
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I did. It boots and everything but its just seems kind of wonky. Its pretty slow compared to liquids.
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Does it have oc enabled?
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I did. It boots and everything but its just seems kind of wonky. Its pretty slow compared to liquids.
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I would only want a custom kernel on sense 3.6 not on liquid ICS because its already super fast
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It does but the tiamat kernel really needs some work before it is up to par.
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Well hopefully IMO is paying attention then... or hopefully someone has messaged him...
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Damn you HTC
Here we are over 5 months later and still no kernel source code. Awesome
Damn you HTC
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Here we are over 5 months later and still no kernel source code. Awesome
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Here we are over 8 months later and still no kernel source code. Awesome
patience, friends. HTC released the official ICS nearly 90 days ago. Source code should be released with a week from now. Then the Thunderbolt gets a new lease on life.
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patience, friends. HTC released the official ICS nearly 90 days ago. Source code should be released with a week from now. Then the Thunderbolt gets a new lease on life.
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Do they actually wait exactly 90 days? If so, the source should drop on the 4th or 5th, if memory serves.
Either way, looking forward to seeing even the slightest new breath of life for the TB
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Do they actually wait exactly 90 days? If so, the source should drop on the 4th or 5th, if memory serves.
Either way, looking forward to seeing even the slightest new breath of life for the TB
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No it may not be exactly 90 days and can be as many as 120 days.
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No it may not be exactly 90 days and can be as many as 120 days.
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That's disappointing to hear, but here's hoping to a timely release

[Q] will there be any official jellybean.?

Yeah I have been look for new information on official jellybean for the droid incredible 4g... Any body find info yet.? This year ?
i wouldnt hold my breath about jb honestly. there are a few pages that said we'll see jb, but its just speculation. the inc2 (my former phone) was told ICS in august by htc. its 2013 and still nothing
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i wouldnt hold my breath about jb honestly. there are a few pages that said we'll see jb, but its just speculation. the inc2 (my former phone) was told ICS in august by htc. its 2013 and still nothing
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Yeah but this phone should get a leak so developers. Like I... can work on it
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i wouldnt expect that for some time. even if there is a leak who's to say it will be 100% funtional? not to mention kernel source
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i wouldnt expect that for some time. even if there is a leak who's to say it will be 100% funtional? not to mention kernel source
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I've seen developers build fully stable roms on other phones with leaks.
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my usual sources still say theres nothing in testing system
Yep if anything is leaked nits will be the first to know
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Yep if anything is leaked nits will be the first to know
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Well I hope we get at least a kernal source or a leak. We deserve it.
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Well I hope we get at least a kernal source or a leak. We deserve it.
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well if we get a leak that *usually* implies we will get an official update....kernel source is only released if we get an official update
we dont really *deserve* anything...htc and verizon should support their products as best as they possibly can, and that would mean updating it...but they never promised us an update as a condition for purchasing the phone
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well if we get a leak that *usually* implies we will get an official update....kernel source is only released if we get an official update
we dont really *deserve* anything...htc and verizon should support their products as best as they possibly can, and that would mean updating it...but they never promised us an update as a condition for purchasing the phone
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I would assume we would see one but I don't expect one and for damn sure wouldn't expect one anytime in the near future. Seriously wonder how many of these phone actually are activated right now compared to other phones from this era? But I won't complain I'm happy enough for now with high hopes for the growth of its development community but......
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I'm not holding my breath for Verizon to release JB for this phone, wouldn't be surprised one bit if we didn't get it. I'm with prairiedogn though with hoping this community gets some kind of growth here in the future.
The original Incredible got 4 updates in all, and got its most recent update this past summer, over 2 years after its debut, but the update broke most peoples' phones, and it has been speculated that it was intentional.
All the major manufacturers claim they support a phone for 18 months after its debut, so hopefully at least one big update is coming our way. I expect we'll at least get 4.1.2, but that might be the end of it. If not even that, I'll be pretty disappointed.
Maybe we'll get to skip Jelly Bean and go straight to Key Lime Pie. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
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Maybe we'll get to skip Jelly Bean and go straight to Key Lime Pie. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
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Yeah that will never happen unless we get a kernal source
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Yeah that will never happen unless we get a kernal source
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Not necessarily true. Many things can be done with out kernel source as long as the knowledge (as in people with the knowledge and the device) to do it is available. That is usually the big hurdle though.
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Yeah that will never happen unless we get a kernal source
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what would kernel source have to do with whether or not verizon/htc updated us to something?
granted they wont skip jellybean and go to an os revision that isnt out yet, but kernel source has nothing to do witht hat
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what would kernel source have to do with whether or not verizon/htc updated us to something?
granted they wont skip jellybean and go to an os revision that isnt out yet, but kernel source has nothing to do witht hat
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Well sorry with my terminology. I'm new to this so I'm still learning.. but yes we could have asop or cyangenmod but never sence unless someone well knoledge makes it
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Source

So I've heard the Korean JB source code is coming out next week. Is that all we need to begin getting JB AOSP roms? Or are we waiting on U.S. source? Thanks!
That is all.
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I'm waiting on Key Lime Pie source code.
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I'm waiting on Key Lime Pie source code.
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Thought that came out last month?
Dejavu! They must have changed something in the Matrix!!
You saw the black cat twice too?!?!?
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You saw the black cat twice too?!?!?
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I think I'm up to the 5th sighting. Lol
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I think I'm up to the 5th sighting. Lol
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Oh god... They broke something then.
We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
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We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
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Because the devs havent been trying to get CM9 that is what we have now. They want to get us the newest OS. Really all they need is certain parts of the source to make it happen. If you ask maybe you may get a CM9 rom from someone who has experience doing it. Just my two cents
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We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
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My understanding is that no dev wants to build CM9 for us because of the expectation that it will shortly become useless once JB source drops and we can have 10.1. Any JB based ROM is going to have a lot more longevity than an ICS ROM, so why put time and resources into ICS at this point?
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My understanding is that no dev wants to build CM9 for us because of the expectation that it will shortly become useless once JB source drops and we can have 10.1. Any JB based ROM is going to have a lot more longevity than an ICS ROM, so why put time and resources into ICS at this point?
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Great point indeed. I cant think of anyone who would be trying to make and ICS rom with Key Lime Pie around the corner.
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Great point indeed. I cant think of anyone who would be trying to make and ICS rom with Key Lime Pie around the corner.
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I can tell you this, if someone had created an CM ICS ROM, everyone would be rocking it. At least 90% of us...
Yeah, I for one see no point to a cm9 rom at this point.
I gave it a shot, and I just ran into problems that I was not sure how I would go about fixing, so I just pretty much gave up. It will be much easier getting a CM rom out when we have everyone working together to fix the issues, especially including the more experienced developers.
It's a combo of no point if JB source is coming soon, and that the ICS source is a mess. Just because the source is out doesn't mean they can just magically type stuff and make it work. If it's terribly put together it's hard, like Samsung's KK4 source code for the Cappy.
All I was saying is I'm just saying. Lots of folks would rather have the CM options and theming and added options, that's all. It's not a complaint or accusation so much as an observation. My 2 cents, if you will.
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nygfan760 said:
It's a combo of no point if JB source is coming soon, and that the ICS source is a mess. Just because the source is out doesn't mean they can just magically type stuff and make it work. If it's terribly put together it's hard, like Samsung's KK4 source code for the Cappy.
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Who says the JB source will be any less messy though?
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JasonJoel said:
Who says the JB source will be any less messy though?
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I just recently asked the same thing.
I hope we aren't let down.
I'm starting to wonder if they release messy sources as a loophole.
They released the required source, but it isn't in the slightest bit useful.
bleached45 said:
I just recently asked the same thing.
I hope we aren't let down.
I'm starting to wonder if they release messy sources as a loophole.
They released the required source, but it isn't in the slightest bit useful.
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loophole. More like sabatoge. Manufactures don't butcher the source becase they are dumb. If they put out solid source we could easily stay just as up to date as the n4. And if you did that you might not buy a new phone for a while. If you never get jb on your phone you will by the g2. The manufacturer has just as much to gain as the carrier
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drwario said:
loophole. More like sabatoge. Manufactures don't butcher the source becase they are dumb. If they put out solid source we could easily stay just as up to date as the n4. And if you did that you might not buy a new phone for a while. If you never get jb on your phone you will by the g2. The manufacturer has just as much to gain as the carrier
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I know I won't. Don't have the money to spend on phones off contract. $300 is the most ill pay for one

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