pros & cons of using custom rom - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
Just wanting to hear your opinion.
I have the SGS3 and love it, but i'm kinda feeling like there is a load of samsung bloatware, tthat cannot be uninstalled...thinking the answer must be a root and a custom rom - but will the battery be better, same or worse? (in general...) and the camera - same question...
And in general what is the experiences from you guys regarding, switching from stock samsung to custom? anything to be aware of - saw something about a 'flash counter' when rooting?
brgds
Chris

koymoy said:
Hi guys,
Just wanting to hear your opinion.
I have the SGS3 and love it, but i'm kinda feeling like there is a load of samsung bloatware, tthat cannot be uninstalled...thinking the answer must be a root and a custom rom - but will the battery be better, same or worse? (in general...) and the camera - same question...
And in general what is the experiences from you guys regarding, switching from stock samsung to custom? anything to be aware of - saw something about a 'flash counter' when rooting?
brgds
Chris
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Custom roms generally have little or no bloat and tend to be fast, almost lagless, however you can get broken features, especially with the S3 because the devs lack Exynos sources. Some examples are if you go from anything other than stock ICS to an AOSP rom you will break NFC, in at least 4.2 roms some video streaming is broken, and there can be various others.
All you can do is read the features lists and known issues to see what the rom can do and what is broken.
The flash counter is a counter in the bootloader, everytime you flash a none stock rom through Odin, or root the counter will increase by one. The counter can be reset with the TriangleAway app by chainfire.

You can use a custom rom that has just been deodexed without any add on and remove what you dont want .
jje

Sv: pros & cons of using custom rom
Thx for clarifying and quick reply!
Guess i can Google og nfo regarding deodex stuff...
/Chris
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Deodexed = stuff from the odex file is compiled into the app. Eases up themeing but slightly worsens performance.
Though after flashing a rom of your liking you can always do what old man slaphead did: reodex the system
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Should I flash a ROM? or just root?

Hey guys. I just got my unlocked S2. After looking around I like the default apps and stuff. Kies Air is awesome too. If I flash do I lose those apps? Am an experienced user. And think yeah but dunno. Worth flashing a ROM? stock stuff is nice.
SilentRazor said:
Hey guys. I just got my unlocked S2. After looking around I like the default apps and stuff. Kies Air is awesome too. If I flash do I lose those apps? Am an experienced user. And think yeah but dunno. Worth flashing a ROM? stock stuff is nice.
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I have been thinking the same to!
Hello there. It depends on what you are flashing. There are two kinds of roms, those based on official sammy roms and ASOP roms (like cyanogen) which are clean and built from scratch. If you don't want to lose the other apps I recommend you flash a rom based on official sammy roms or just root because usually ASOP roms don't contain much and they can't use any sammy based programs/apks.
prinzhernan said:
Hello there. It depends on what you are flashing. There are two kinds of roms, those based on official sammy roms and ASOP roms (like cyanogen) which are clean and built from scratch. If you don't want to lose the other apps I recommend you flash a rom based on official sammy roms or just root because usually ASOP roms don't contain much and they can't use any sammy based programs/apks.
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Well for some reason with this phone I like Samsung apps. So no ASOP this time. Weird. Well what are some good Samsung custom ROMs?
SilentRazor said:
Well for some reason with this phone I like Samsung apps. So no ASOP this time. Weird. Well what are some good Samsung custom ROMs?
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Yeah, I like them too. You could try:
Lite'ning Rom
Exynos Extreme
Criskelo Rom
I've tried these and they're good. Samsung goodness but faster and snappier. Enjoy flashing.
Basics are you root if you need root it does not make your phone go faster .
Custom roms may or may not wipe apps its all in the description of each rom .
Little performance difference between custom and stock rom .
jje
Root- It's a must imo.
A Custom ROM- Depends on how mad you are about them. I am not.
I agree just root with cfroot if you like the stock apps etc.
Personally I think KI8 is worth a look.
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Which custom ROM is 99-100% bug free ?

So I want to install some custom ROM but as I can see EVERY ROM has some bugs and I really hate that, is there any ROM that can be installed and that they are bug free, I want to use the phone, not flash it every week. I really like CriskeloROM, it looks great and it has that great camera tweak for better sound but it has some BT issues etc. So other are, MIUI, Cyanogen and Darkys, are they bug free ?
Thanks
MIUI based on CM7 & AOSP, CM7 based on AOSP, both of these are not yet stable but good enough for daily usage, camera's are much weaker compared to stock Samsung.
Samsung based roms stick with something based on stock, like VillainRom, KitchenRom, and such. Plenty to choose from.
Or custom roms such as Cog, CheckRom, HyperDroid, plenty to choose from. Read each one and see what users are saying about them, best way is experimenting yourself.
Then either stick with CF Root as a kernel based on stock or experiment with others like Speedmod, Siyah and a like.
Asking a general question like this will usually lead to comments from users on roms they are currently on saying its the best etc, so you'd be even more lost!
I could say X is good Y would say Z is good and such
for one why do you want to flash a custom ROM? first answert that to yourself
if answer comes i rerally dont want, then simply root your phone.
you can always flash stock newer roms like 2.3.5 roms
i for one actually dont need custom roms as im very much happy with stock and anything i cant do on stock i can after root.
i used to use custom roms when on my older htc phones when stock were slower and custom roms were faster, but with this specs stock is fast enough.
Thanks to both. Well, I want to have that better camera that has better video and sound and also I like those lock screen on CriskeloROM with shortcuts like HTC. And I hope that they have better battery and are fasgter than stock !? If, not, is there 2.3.5 stock that has Croatian language and I coul try ti use that rooted first and remove some Samsung annoying apps, right now KIES says 2.3.3 is the latest. I definitely dont want worse camera on my phone, only better so pelase direct me in the right way because I dont know where I can find stock 2.3.5 woth better camera app.
Tnx a lot
Cognition for me. Always install ROMs fresh to prevent problems.
Go for a KI4 rom, Criskelo had modified the camera for that 2.3.5 version you can download and just replace using a root file explorer.
As for rom, I'd say look into RomKitchen, optimized stock rom and works well. The guys over there are also very nice and helpful. Like most tbh.
Ok, but can you please point me what I need ? I have CF-Root now and I have read that I should not use ROM Manager for backup of current ROM and I dont know how do make NANDroid backup ? Is that with 3 button combo and then I have that option ?
Also, I see that there are more than one thread with RomKitchen name in it, which one should I take and how can I know if they have croatian because I didnt find that info on any ROM. I can backup my ROM with CWM app ? I have just clicked it and it has rebooted and backuping something on internal memory, I didnt turn on the phone with 3 button combo.
EDIT: is this the one, in the 2nd post ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171523&highlight=kitchen
Tnx
One more thing, if I make complete backup with Titanium and then restore it on some ROM which does not have stock Samsung apps will it be ok then and it will not restore those apps ?
Ah wait, they don't do KI4, only KI8 & KI3 in kitchen.
To flash a rom via CWM, vol up + home + power, I recommend installing fresh, so wipe factory data, cache and dalvik cache under advanced.
Use Titanium to only back up app data for your applications and no system data.
You can use KI8 or KI3 those are good to, KI8 being newer, or from their post KJ1.
http://romkitchen.org/sgs2/?s=generator
I have donwloaded this KitchenApp and there I can see more ROMs and other oprion, I dont need to install other kernel ? Now I have XWKF3. When I choose everything I just press download and it will download it on my phone and from that Kitchen app I can install that ROM ? I can make the ROM in app and here online, it says GAlaxy S but I hope it is for i9100. I generate ROM and then transfer it to root of the mass storage and then flash it trough KitchenPro app on the phone ? It will NOT erase my photos and backups on mass memory ? What backup and with what app should I make before flashing ? I have made some with ROM Manager, I hope it is ok.
What Model and Kernel to choose ?
But if I want to backup apps and widgets from the Market with Titanium ? Or just choose thoe market apps and not system apps and settings ?
Thank you VERY much for your patience but when I make it one time then I will learn, now I have like zillion questions because I come from iPhone 4.
What kitchen app?
Oh you are using CheckROM? That's the newer one, I was talking about RomKitchen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14934522&postcount=5
I have tested many Roms but for me Hyperdroid from Androidmeda is the best Rom out here.. Fast smooth and a hyper great support... Since this Rom I never switched to another Rom... I am AT HOME
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Is CheckROM ok ? It seems great.
@seavers11: please dont mess with my head with another ROM )) I must take one that is bugfree and that it looks great, I dont mind speed and that stupid quadrant score.
CheckRom is good, the kitchen app allows for easy customization.
Just trying out GingerMod and that's lovely as well. AOSP feel based on Samsung firmware with mostly AOSP apps but with some goodies from Samsung left over like camera and such.
Your spoilt for choice
Which CSC, Kernel and modem should I use ??
<3 <3 Batista Rom <3 <3
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damirbusic said:
Which CSC, Kernel and modem should I use ??
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Depends on were you live for CSC and modem. I use UK csc and KI1 modem as it gives me better data coverage.
Kernel I'm using latest rc2 of SiyahKernel, running fine so far.
But go for something stable maybe SpeedMod or CF root based on stock later you can experiment with other kernels.
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Im in Croatia and now I have CF-Root and it is fine, what else shoul I choose there to make my ROM ? Do I need to take Europe version so I can have Croatian language ?
Tnx
nikzDHD said:
MIUI based on CM7 & AOSP, CM7 based on AOSP, both of these are not yet stable but good enough for daily usage, camera's are much weaker compared to stock Samsung.
Samsung based roms stick with something based on stock, like VillainRom, KitchenRom, and such. Plenty to choose from.
Or custom roms such as Cog, CheckRom, HyperDroid, plenty to choose from. Read each one and see what users are saying about them, best way is experimenting yourself.
Then either stick with CF Root as a kernel based on stock or experiment with others like Speedmod, Siyah and a like.
Asking a general question like this will usually lead to comments from users on roms they are currently on saying its the best etc, so you'd be even more lost!
I could say X is good Y would say Z is good and such
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Cognition looks like a really good rom but isnt it based on stock?
I still dont get what "HyperDroid" about , is it a stock rom themed?
nikzDHD said:
Just trying out GingerMod and that's lovely as well. AOSP feel based on Samsung firmware with mostly AOSP apps but with some goodies from Samsung left over like camera and such.
Your spoilt for choice
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OMG i just checked that rom and it looks amazing! built for touchwiz haters like me, who still admit that the samsung browser and camera app are far better than stock android
The new Checkrom and Leo's kitchen is very solid, I don't think there's anything bugfree but it gives the easiest option I've seen to try different builds.

[Q] Questions regarding root and MIUI install

Hi. I have decided to upgrade my samsung galaxy s2 with miui. Since this is my first time flashing an android device I have a couple of questions.
Firstly, is there a reason why I shouldnt install miui on my phone aside from the void warrancy?
#do I get the warrancy back if I unroot and unflash before I take my device to the service?
Next, i have read that i need to root the device first, before i can install miui. Is that true?
#which kernel should I use for that?
I have heard that siyahkernel Is the best. But on the xda thread it says it isnt compatible with any ICS roms. Will it work with miui 4? Is this thread a root at all? I can only assume it is because it has cpu/gpu oc/uc and ov options...
Also, cfroot Has a big and detailed thread. But this one does not support rom manager. I'd need to use cwm for flashing. Is this a problem?
So with which kernel do I go?
No, use a jig too.
Use Cfroot.
What? You don't need rom manager, not sure what you're getting at here.
I'd recommend using a gingerbread version of miui as it's your first time. Gb is stable, ics isn't 100% there yet.
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Good choice going with miui, however I wouldn't use the ics versions at the moment as they are buggy. I would personally recommend wiui latest gingerbread version as it is stable as hell and works with siyah.
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okmijnlp said:
No, use a jig too.
Use Cfroot.
What? You don't need rom manager, not sure what you're getting at here.
I'd recommend using a gingerbread version of miui as it's your first time. Gb is stable, ics isn't 100% there yet.
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Thanks for the reply. But:
Whats a jih?
MIUI install guide (miuiandroid(dot)com/community/threads/how-to-update-upgrade-miui.15424/) says to use ROM manager. But I suppose cwm does the same thing.
I've read somewhere that the last sgs2 miui version is based on official 4.0.3 samsung files. Shouldn't that mean that there are no bugs aside from the ones which are also found on samsung update channels?
I really mainly want miui because of ics, and chrome browser. I have no interest in voiding my warrancy so I can stay on gingerbread. The better UI simply isn't worth it. So you suggest I wait for official samsung updates? (I do want the better UI...)
Thanks for the reply!
Cheers
No, miui ics introduces several bugs of its own despite being based on samsung rom.
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iZver said:
Thanks for the reply. But:
Whats a jih?
MIUI install guide (miuiandroid(dot)com/community/threads/how-to-update-upgrade-miui.15424/) says to use ROM manager. But I suppose cwm does the same thing.
I've read somewhere that the last sgs2 miui version is based on official 4.0.3 samsung files. Shouldn't that mean that there are no bugs aside from the ones which are also found on samsung update channels?
I really mainly want miui because of ics, and chrome browser. I have no interest in voiding my warrancy so I can stay on gingerbread. The better UI simply isn't worth it. So you suggest I wait for official samsung updates? (I do want the better UI...)
Thanks for the reply!
Cheers
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A jig resets your "Custom binary counter", the thing that counts how many times you've flashed a rom/kernel/whatever. Samsung will see its above 0 and may, or may not, said that your warranty is still void.
If you're really that desperate for ics, go for it. Just make a Nandroid backup with CWM incase you don't like it.
No, it's still buggy, but it is still really good & can be used as a daily rom, I would think.
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okmijnlp said:
A jig resets your "Custom binary counter", the thing that counts how many times you've flashed a rom/kernel/whatever. Samsung will see its above 0 and may, or may not, said that your warranty is still void.
If you're really that desperate for ics, go for it. Just make a Nandroid backup with CWM incase you don't like it.
No, it's still buggy, but it is still really good & can be used as a daily rom, I would think.
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I wouldn't say that I am desperate for ics, but I am pretty sure I will install miui at one time anway. I don't like the cartoonish icons of touchwiz. The question I think right now is, whether I install ICS right now, or should I wait for ICS to become availabe on KIES and install miui later. (I suppose they'll fix the remaining bugs than)
Also, does anyone suggest a different rom than miui, which is better for some reason? I like eyecandy, but I do want performace as well.
Thanks for your answers.
Cheers
Edit:
If I do upgrade to ics and miui. All I have to do is root it with cfroot and use cwm to do a nandroid backup, and than use cwm to install miui 2.3.16?
iZver said:
I wouldn't say that I am desperate for ics, but I am pretty sure I will install miui at one time anway. I don't like the cartoonish icons of touchwiz. The question I think right now is, whether I install ICS right now, or should I wait for ICS to become availabe on KIES and install miui later. (I suppose they'll fix the remaining bugs than)
Also, does anyone suggest a different rom than miui, which is better for some reason? I like eyecandy, but I do want performace as well.
Thanks for your answers.
Cheers
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If I do upgrade to ics and miui. All I have to do is root it with cfroot and use cwm to do a nandroid backup, and than use cwm to install miui 2.3.16?
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If you're not desperate then flash miui 2.3.9. Best rom I've ever used.
MIUI is already rooted. Just root whatever you're on now, make a Nandroid backup of that, and then flash miui. Btw, once you're on miui you'll never turn back
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okmijnlp said:
Btw, once you're on miui you'll never turn back
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Was back on the ROM in my sig within 36 hours Tried 4 different GB MIUIs, not one gave me anything my current setup couldn't do better. Each to their own though.
okmijnlp said:
If you're not desperate then flash miui 2.3.9. Best rom I've ever used.
MIUI is already rooted. Just root whatever you're on now, make a Nandroid backup of that, and then flash miui. Btw, once you're on miui you'll never turn back
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Fair enough.
The thread title does however confuse me:
MIUI ROM 2.3.9 Releases [GB] & [ICS ENGLISH FULL]
miuiandroid(dot)com/community/threads/miui-rom-2-3-9-releases-gb-ics-english-full.15662/
So miui 2.3.9 for sgs2 is gb based. If i understand correctly than I have to download from this thread. But isn't installing old versions dumb? Or is 2.3.16 a major jump which introduces new bugs?
Edit:
Okay as far as I understand 2.3.9 is GB and 2.3.16 is ICS. 2.3.9 works very good while 2.3.16 is laggy.
So to get this straight:
I want to install miui 2.3.9-- The steps are:
update to latest version. (i have dukg2 i'll go to kj3)
root with cfroot
backup with nandroid
system wipe, galvik wipe, cache wipe
install miui rom with cwm
???
This is it?
Edit2:
Is there a way to store my defender savegame?
Edit3:
I have read that siyah kernel is very fast. How do i install that kernel?
Do I do all the steps liste above, and than when I am done installing miui install siyah kernel?
Turns out siyah has NTFS usb OTG feature. I now really want siyah.
B3311 said:
Was back on the ROM in my sig within 36 hours Tried 4 different GB MIUIs, not one gave me anything my current setup couldn't do better. Each to their own though.
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Before i got samsung galaxy s2 I had a nokia 5800 for 3 years. It was like switching from a sedan to formula 1. I am still so impressed by the power of SGS2 that some minor performance improovements aren't important. Not yet at least...
Thus I am looking for eyecandy (since i can't get ICS and chrome just yet). Which as I've hear MIUI is best at.
Besides, there's no link in your sig. Otherwise i'd love to take a look at that rom. What does miui lack at btw?
Don`t use miui, is ugly
078gregory said:
Don`t use miui, is ugly
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What do you suggest than?
iZver said:
What do you suggest than?
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Look in xda sgs2 forum is 20 normals rom and 2 miui, you can change what kernel you want, what theme you want, coz almost all is compatible each others. For miui you need special kernel, special theme, etc. Don`t wasting you time using miui
Rubbish. Opinion is one thing, misinformation is another :-|
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For miui you need special kernel
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078gregory said:
Don`t use miui, is ugly
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Right. Because touchwiz is a lot sexier? Please. The miui themes are beautiful. Even stock looks stunning. But hey, I heard kids love the cartoonish look if touchwiz.
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iZver said:
Fair enough.
Besides, there's no link in your sig. Otherwise i'd love to take a look at that rom. What does miui lack at btw?
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Big banner that says "SlimROM by krinyo75"... not visible on xda's app. Skinny, fast, monochrome - the way I like it (yes, I tried BAT)
What does miui lack:
- installed adfree, still got many ads.
- sammy's stock browser is so much better than MIUI's
- camera is nowhere near good enough
- flaky GPS
- laggy music player (tried it first on my SGS waybackwhen, still no better)
- limited kernel choice
- all phone numbers hyphenated after 3 digits
- don't want workarounds for an app drawer - I want an app drawer, period
Sure some of these sound petty, but horses for courses... since MIUI v4 will be based on Samsung's framework and kernel sources are now released, I'll try it again when it's done.
One thing I love about MIUI - only non-3rd party contacts app I've seen with a list view - no photos, no stupid icon next to contact name.
B3311 said:
Big banner that says "SlimROM by krinyo75"... not visible on xda's app. Skinny, fast, monochrome - the way I like it (yes, I tried BAT)
What does miui lack:
- installed adfree, still got many ads.
- sammy's stock browser is so much better than MIUI's
- camera is nowhere near good enough
- flaky GPS
- laggy music player (tried it first on my SGS waybackwhen, still no better)
- limited kernel choice
- all phone numbers hyphenated after 3 digits
- don't want workarounds for an app drawer - I want an app drawer, period
Sure some of these sound petty, but horses for courses... since MIUI v4 will be based on Samsung's framework and kernel sources are now released, I'll try it again when it's done.
One thing I love about MIUI - only non-3rd party contacts app I've seen with a list view - no photos, no stupid icon next to contact name.
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I don't have any of these problems. But regarding AdFree, it really is quite bad, use adaway, it's a lot better.
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benifits of custom roms ?

quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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custom rom do come with there own pro's and con's u have to check the changelog of that rom to see whats different in it also some apps which do require root previlage wrks fine with custom roms rather than stock one's
stock roms do have better batt life compared 2 custom ones at the cost of customization with there dull and boring looks
thanks for your reply i guess its just finding the correct balance between customization and battery life then. cheers
go with custom
I had the exact same thoughts when i first decided to flash a custom rom.
Personally i would now flash a custom rom at the drop of a hat, however as the previous comment said there are pros and cons.
do some research on roms with functionality that you require and you'll find one you want to flash no doubt.
hope i helped
i am now running CM9 and its so smooth and looks amazing, a millions times better than stock in almost every way!
Check out the ROM and the comments which people have wrote. Some of them may be good and others may be bad.. you'll be able to work out the missing features of the custom rom bother you or not ^__^ That's how I work out whether to install the ROM XD Most ICS ROM's have their benefits and cons, Gingerbread would be considered the most stable Hope this helps you
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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cheers guys i guess custom seems the way forward, just need to research the changelog of each rom that takes my fancy
thanks again guys !!
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
fgoyti said:
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
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with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
Sun90 said:
with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
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But there's already no brick bug on 4.0.3 right? So... what exactly would I gain with the Siyah kernel?
The only thing I can think of is CPU/kernel modding
kilometers4 said:
Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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I am doing same on stock
Peace
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One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
Obagleyfreer said:
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
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It's the ROM, not the kernel, that determines if MHL fully works.
Apparently video works with AOSP, but not full mirror of the display.
However, if you want full mirroring, you'll need to be on a stock Samsung based ROM.
That said, you can still run a custom kernel, such as Siyah or SpeedMod, and MHL will still work as long as you remain on the Samsung based ROM.
I'm currently running stock XWLPX with Siyah 4.1.4, and MHL works fully for me.

[n00b Question] Why install a custom kernel?

Hey y'all,
I'm going to feel like a bit of an idiot writing this given I've been using the XDA forums for close to 2 years now, but why should I install a custom 3rd party kernal?
I've unlocked my bootloader (finally) to get android 4, and as I understand I can now install custom kernels if I so wish. I'm not too bothered about the process or requirements for doing it, I'll cross that bridge if/when I get to it xD
I understand it can really mess up your system too, so why should I mess around with it for only (minor?) Improvements?
Also, why do custom ROMs have their own kernels? How does a ROM interact with a kernel?
I'm sorry if these is a really stupid questions. Just one of the few things I've wanted to ask for a while now :')
Any good replies will be rewarded with internet cookiez!! Or a click of the like button, you decide and write which you want in the reply xD
Thanks in advance guys
Joshh465
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Using custom kernels with custom roms enhance tha rom cos most custom roms work more better on custom kernels...
A custom kernel can be pre-rooted, support OC, vpn support & many more... Some Custom kernels re better dan stock kernel is terms of battery life, smooth & respond!
Messing with tha system can help alot by removing bloatware which slows tha phone & occupy spaces & also customize yur mobile to yur taste!
Joshh465 said:
Hey y'all,
I'm going to feel like a bit of an idiot writing this given I've been using the XDA forums for close to 2 years now, but why should I install a custom 3rd party kernal?
I've unlocked my bootloader (finally) to get android 4, and as I understand I can now install custom kernels if I so wish. I'm not too bothered about the process or requirements for doing it, I'll cross that bridge if/when I get to it xD
I understand it can really mess up your system too, so why should I mess around with it for only (minor?) Improvements?
Also, why do custom ROMs have their own kernels? How does a ROM interact with a kernel?
I'm sorry if these is a really stupid questions. Just one of the few things I've wanted to ask for a while now :')
Any good replies will be rewarded with internet cookiez!! Or a click of the like button, you decide and write which you want in the reply xD
Thanks in advance guys
Joshh465
Sent from my ST15i using xda app-developers app
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For the most part, using a custom kernel or the stock kernel is better for a variety of reasons. Mainly, the custom kernels are usually always better than the stock they are based on. They generally run smoother and faster. Yes they are definitely improvements, whether they are small or big, they are still improvements.
Depending on if you are going to use CM roms or even AOKP roms, over stock roms (roms based on stock firmware) will depend on the need of a custom kernel. If you want to run CM or AOKP then yes you will have to use a custom kernel. If you are just running a stock rom, whether it is based on stock or it is the stock firmware, then you dont necessarily need a custom kernel, the stock kernel will work.
But if you want my input, then i would say go for a custom kernel anyway, even if you are on stock. The benefits out weigh the drawback if you can even call them drawbacks.
Hope I've helped,
Cheers,
Evil.
The way I see it is like this.
Suppose you get a PC with a BIOS and OS locked.If you can flash a newer/modified/improved BIOS along with a tweaked OS,wouldn't you do it sooner or later?!
N.
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Well, after your quite comprehensive replies, I'm now onto my second custom kernel and haven't had a bad thing to say about either of them.... Cheers guys!!
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