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Alright, so I did a little searching and still have a question on whether the Atrix is going to get Ice Cream sandwich, as all of you know, the newer Android OS, not released yet (but within 1-2 months).
Only other thread found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973034
We obviously have an unlocked bootloader and a host of options available for the phone, including CM7 which is in pre-beta, but what about ice cream sandwich?
I understand motorola PROBABLY won't release it, because they only recently released gingerbread, but does anyone know of someone willing to port it, once it's rolled out? or...anything?!
Thanks
An official version, I highly doubt it. A leaked custom ROM of it, more than likely...
Can you say, Cyanogenmod 8!? Hopefully but I heard that newer devices will be able to run it. So I'm guessing that the inspire, atrix, infuse sensation, etc. And as far as the official update for ice cream sandwich, I would forget about it
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no one knows the answer to this question, so there's no point in asking it.
I have a doubt about getting ICS on the Atrix.
Let's suppose that Motorola won't bring us ICS officially.
Given that starting from Android ICS there must be proprietary, binary drivers for properly running it: how would Cyanogenmod 9 work for the Atrix, if there won't be those proprietary drivers?
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
Because this was here first.
That's a great question
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The best way to get ICS right now is to buy a Galaxy Nexus. The best way to make friends on these here XDA Atrix forums is to be patient and stop agonizing over when the Atrix will see it. The speculation never ends, but at some point you just have to stfu and enjoy what you have!
CaelanT said:
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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Thank you for not starting another.
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Thank you for not starting another.
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At least I made half-damages. Now it is gone, this thread is resurrected and my question is still valid.
I am waiting for a CM luminary to help me understand about the new strange "We love opensource, but you need the proprietary binary driver" Google policy and how this will impact non-officially upgradeable devices.
Yeah, I don't exactly understand how google is planning to get that ball rolling either, if the drivers aren't all available.
As for the atrix, from what my understanding is, the real issue with ICS not being ported is the missing Tegra 2 driver.
Now, don't quote me on that, but that's what I saw.
i think there is a slight posibility we will get official ics, seeing how the photon and bionic will probably get it, and the atrix is basically the same phone but for a different carrier. but even if we do get official, still sticking with cm9
Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
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Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
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well seing how they are already running gb, seems like they would get an official update. and if the photon gets it since its a tegra 2 the porting would probably be pretty easy, but im not a dev so i wouldnt know.
Not going to happen....or at least for the next 6 months. this "must have the latest software" is a god damn disease. Lol I think this phone is awesome, but was never well supported or embraced by the developing community from the get go. Not being harsh but a lot of developers have left.....
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And the used prices for Atrix are joke now, you can get one for 200$. I remember how I paid 343# just two month ago. I feel stupid.
As for the Tegra 2 and ICS, don't you guys know that numerous tablets will be getting ICS ?
you must be mad i paid 1 cent for mine, (granted it was with an ATT upgrade) but after taxes and their upgrade fee's .. still less than 50$ for the atrix
To me it all feels very elitist.. YOU can have the latest upgrade but YOU can't.. Most of us are locked into 2 year contracts.. Yet at the rate that phones are evolving most phones are out of date within 6 months. With new O/S upgrades coming every year at the most. So what Motorola/Google are telling me is my phone which I've had just a year is not worthy of the newest update/upgrade. What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
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What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
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That would only be an issue when and if the deal actually goes through.
Hello
With the new ICS has just been released, when do you expect Samsung to release a version for SGS2?
Regards
it might take sometime
Why? what does it take?
Soon,
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Looking up wiki quickly, I found the following:
Gingerbread released December 6 2010
CyanogenMod 7.0 released April 10 2011
Hopefully things will be faster this time around.
zoobzone said:
Looking up wiki quickly, I found the following:
Gingerbread released December 6 2010
CyanogenMod 7.0 released April 10 2011
Hopefully things will be faster this time around.
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CyanogenMod doesn't have to be the first ICS ROM. I'm sure nighties came way before April.
My hope is that samsung releases a ICS official firmware in couple weeks..
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My hope is that samsung releases a ICS official firmware in couple weeks..
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ahahhaahahahahahahaahahah
First lets hope they do it "at all".
And my bet after that would be "when it's done".
On a more serious guess: Not this year anymore, maybe early 2012.
oh god, this is all this forum is going to be for the next 2 months isnt it.
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oh god, this is all this forum is going to be for the next 2 months isnt it.
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kind of dude .!!!
skimminstones said:
oh god, this is all this forum is going to be for the next 2 months isnt it.
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At least it'll take people's mind off invisible tints and irrelevant home button movement.
I personally wouldn't be surprised to see it within 2 months, but that may be partially wishful thinking.
Andy Ruben has just said in the post announcement interview that ICS updates should be a couple of weeks after the Gnexus release. However I personally wouldn't hold your breath as Samsung won't want to effect sales of their flagship phone
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Andy Ruben has just said in the post announcement interview that ICS updates should be a couple of weeks after the Gnexus release. However I personally wouldn't hold your breath as Samsung won't want to effect sales of their flagship phone
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What, by selling a different one of their products?
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oh god, this is all this forum is going to be for the next 2 months isnt it.
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Don't forget the great cupcake saga not so long ago, forums filled with people ranting and raving, shouting "I want my cupcake now!"
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What, by selling a different one of their products?
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What I mean is:
Google and Samsung will want everyone to buy the Galaxy Nexus the new flagship phone with a higher price as this will be in direct competition withe the iPhone 4GS. However why will people buy this when they can buy the still excellent, but cheaper Samsung Galaxy S2 if it has the latest update.
Personally I won't buy the GNexus as I'm very happy with the SGS2 and I can't afford the upgrade. So all I can hope is that someone will port the ROM
People will get upset if they buy phones that dont stay up to date.
But yeh, wait for them to profit off the Gnex for a bit.
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This is something that pisses me of about android, I just recently got 2.3.4 on my unbranded SGS2, At this rate I expect Ice Cream sandwich by next summer and by that time something bigger and better will be along.
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This is something that pisses me of about android, I just recently got 2.3.4 on my unbranded SGS2, At this rate I expect Ice Cream sandwich by next summer and by that time something bigger and better will be along.
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There will always be something bigger and better. For what it's worth, you can always upgrade your unbranded phone manually to something newer than 2.3.4.
I don't know how many that buys for example an SGS2 are "hardcore" users and just "plain" users (i.e only does the official updates via Kies etc).
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This is something that pisses me of about android, I just recently got 2.3.4 on my unbranded SGS2, At this rate I expect Ice Cream sandwich by next summer and by that time something bigger and better will be along.
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This isn't something specific about Android, this is a generalization about all technology and perhaps most all retail items. You must be from another planet.
Before buying a SGS2 I was using HTC Sensation, was infact very happy with sensation but suddenly decided to switch to SGS2 since everyone boasting about it.
as of now i am still very happy with the phone, especially the Screen and how fast the phone is... but there are some issue which i have found only on Samsung firmwares..
1). The lag in opening the contacts and dialer app (it feels like a 800 mhz phone, takes min 3-4 secs)
2). I also find lag in gallery app..
i have never found these lags on HTC phones, even on nexus one..
I have tried many roms on my SGS2 but no sucess
Only CM7 & CM9 roms have zero lag
above all these i am very disappointed with Samsung for still not releasing ICS, dont understand why there is so much delay..
they have made such a great piece of hardware but such pathetic software support.. we shell so much amount for these devices but look how Samsung treats its customers.. same happened with SGS1 also i believe
I have decided not to buy Samsung phones from now on.. it is better to go back to HTC
thumbs down to guys at Samsung !!
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but suddenly decided to switch to SGS2 since everyone boasting about it.
as of now i am still very happy with the phone,
above all these i am very disappointed with Samsung for still not releasing ICS,
thumbs down to guys at Samsung !!
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Cool story bro.
You may complain about the latency issues, but for the software update you can't say much since no other company has released ics updates except for tablets.
Still not releasing ICS? Please do tell me which phone other than Galaxy Nexus actually has the official ICS? Considering Galaxy nexus is a samsung phone, in a way, they did release a phone with ICS.
Edit: Also hilarious that you are whining on XDA considering there are tons of ICS roms already.
ywah true in a way, but when they have such a good hardware why cant they be quick, they took their own sweet time for GB on SGS1, we also know what happened to Samsung Wave.. even for 2.3.6 update for SGS2 Indian users was release just few weeks back
they have always delayed proper support for their phones
And you honestly think we give a flying **** what you think about Samsung phones & that you're never going to by one again, eh ?
Guess what ?
If you're that unhappy I'll give you €100 for your SGS2. As the eminently wise B3311 said, cool story bro.
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they have always delayed proper support for their phones
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If you really feel this way,then buy an LG, and enjoy the real delayed support.
I don't think anything is wrong with Samsung. I recently got my Epic 4g Touch from sprint and I've had two updates. My last phone on the other hand received 1 software update to 2.2.1 and all development was abandoned by the manufacturer and developers here on XDA had to pretty much beg for the source code.
In my opinion Samsung has created an amazing series of phones that will have a long life with development from Samsung and the developers here on XDA.
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Go ahead and go back to HTC with the slower snapdragon. Its hilarious that even the new Rezound is slower than an almost year old SGS2
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It's a problem on your side, not a general SGS2 problem. Just try a custom ROM like CheckROM, and disable all animations with Spare Parts. Your eyes will not be able to see how fast apps open.
SGS2 is the fastest piece of mobile hardware I've ever used, no doubt about it. It's much faster than my friends' HTCs.
About ICS, Samsung's competitors haven't released an ICS ROM either. This ICS thing is way overhyped anyway. It's not much more than a pretty skin over Gingerbread with a cool new launcher. Everytime I try out an ICS ROM, I come back to Gingerbread wondering what the fuss is all about.
Try this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312240
It will make all your complaints go away.
You can put an ICS skin over it for the feel
ok will give this rom a try...
can i download spare parts from market ?
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ok will give this rom a try...
can i download spare parts from market ?
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Don't be so goddamn lazy. Open the market and find out for yourself.
First you ***** about the phone for no reason, now you want spoonfeeding. Get a grip.
You have an issue.....Grab a tissue!!!!!
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I'm still not sure why we needed to know about your obviously un-researched purchase.
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I'm still not sure why we needed to know about your obviously un-researched purchase.
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you haven't seen facebook? twitter? tumblr? whatever?
full of ppl with useless comments, you may even get some fairy remedies
I can not believe the op have had this kind of braintorm going on in the head.
Dont get me wrong but all phone,s have got problems in its software/hardware. And believe me when ics is released its gonna have probs to. Thats why we have custom roms for are phone,s. But then again....the have problems to. So please deal with it in the hope we dont get more of these kind of threads and for the love of XDA search bar......use it. Respect to all and have a great sunday.
Greetz.
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Patience is a virtue dude. Wait and you shall recieve. Samsung have released a number of regional updates since this phone has been released compared to some other manufacturers.
We will get ICS eventually, give them time.
If you don't like it sure the HTC forum will welcome you back with open arms.
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you haven't seen facebook? twitter? tumblr? whatever?
full of ppl with useless comments, you may even get some fairy remedies
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I'm not sure if you're talking about the OP, or my post.
Nonetheless, this thread's pointless. He should've done some more research before throwing his money away.
The "problem" with Samsung is that they want to do it right, not quick.
The most recent ICS leak (which, in case you didn't catch it, is the current version/build of ICS Sammy is working on ATM) still has a few bugs and issues and they want to fix those first and make the ROM stable and bugfree before releasing it as an official update.
As already said, show us ONE other phone (esp. HTC, which are always way behind updates) that has an official, final ICS update already.
So, on the other hand: what is the problem with YOU?
Using ICS on my Cappy right now and it would be a shame to not have this for the note.
Is it scheduled or just rumored?
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Using ICS on my Cappy right now and it would be a shame to not have this for the note.
Is it scheduled or just rumored?
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Scheduled. But no specific release date. People have been saying March / April.
The Note should definitely be getting ICS.
Okay cool thanks guys!
I believe Samsung said in Q1, and a rumor just surfaced that it would be March 1.
Murphy is a cousin of mine so i say AT&T will update to ICS 2-4 months after Int'l ppl get it from Samsung.
i <3 you Murph!!
That's the worst part of this. My Cappy has been amazing with ICS. I'm almost tempted to keep it until the Note get ICS also.
Too bad the hardware is different for the ATT note (from International version), we don't have LTE in Seattle, but I dislike the physical button on the IV.
Oh well, here's hoping ATT doesn't run the same route as the Captivate (Froyo forever sucked, then Gingerbread last week or so! It was great to have ports of gingerbread well before ATT)
OP, if ics came to the g-note a week after tomorrow it wouldn't be soon enough.
The captivate is freaking unbelievable running it. I to am enjoying it ...almost... enough to put off buying a new one. The cappy is a completely new phone...rom it on the g-note and it will -scream .... on ice cream. (sorry I couldn't help that last part)
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OP, if ics came to the g-note a week after tomorrow it wouldn't be soon enough.
The captivate is freaking unbelievable running it. I to am enjoying it ...almost... enough to put off buying a new one. The cappy is a completely new phone...rom it on the g-note and it will -scream .... on ice cream. (sorry I couldn't help that last part)
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The problem is that the hardware is holding it back.
And now that we'll have Notes, we can use ICS to it's full potential
Any new news?
Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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We may learn something at the Samsung event on March 15th... or maybe not.
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Has anyone heard anything else about this. I check the ota update on my note regularly, but haven't seen anything yet
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You're better off searching online for stuff about release dates than keeping on checking the ota update on your phone. Google tells all. We will learn about a release date online well before it being available through your ota.
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ICS on AT&T Note is unlikely in first half of 2012. End of 2012, maybe. 2013? More likely.
It probably will not be ota.... There will probably be bootloaders if the notes ever get ics.
With my history on updates for at&t devices....if it EVER comes, count yourself
lucky. AT&T, except for the iPhones, delays, delays, delays updates.
I've had two non branded phones, and always get updates MONTHS before at&t updates.
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ICS on AT&T Note is unlikely in first half of 2012. End of 2012, maybe. 2013? More likely.
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Source? If that's just a guess, please say so.
After dealing with samsungs BS with the Vibrant, I don't believe a single word, promise, hint, or hope that they announce until I see ICS on my device. I love Samsungs hardware, but I have lost faith in the company itself long ago when dealing with my vibrant and our 10% out of the box fail rate with Sync Master monitors.
On a plus side, my vibrant runs ICS beautifully so I'm sure it will be even better on the Note once a few good ROMS are released and the bugs are worked out.
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Source? If that's just a guess, please say so.
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It's called common sense if you ever dealed with Samsung devices on AT&T in the past. Anything else is just naive thinking, or fantacy.
For the record, AT&T (not Samsung) is the one determines when an update will be available. And AT&T almost never give out release dates. In rare cases it did so (Captivate and Infuse GB updates are said to be available in fall 2011), they screwed it (both release in 2012).
So, any posting about release schudle is pure guess.
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It probably will not be ota.... There will probably be bootloaders if the notes ever get ics.
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+1. If it comes in OTA, wait a few days. OTA update with bootloader change almost always bricks a few phones everytime Samsung tries it. Most recent is the GS2 Skyrocket 2.3.6 OTA last month.
We have to go through the phases of an over due update. We havn't even seen the numerous "i know someone who can say with certainty that..." or "my brothers cousins sisters poodles hairdresser brother works on the dev teams and said..." or my personal favorite "i know someone inside the company who says". Then there is the phase of dispair where people say they will never buy sammy again and will be selling this POS and so on. Check out the captivate and vibrant forums and you'll see lots. In the vibrants case, it was Samsungs fault for dragging their feet, not T-Mo as they hadnt received the software to bloatware onto when waiting for Froyo! Sit and wait and watch current ROM scene if you really want ICS.
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In the vibrants case, it was Samsungs fault for dragging their feet, not T-Mo as they hadnt received the software to bloatware onto when waiting for Froyo!
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That's the common mis-conception. Carrier bloatware is baked into the ROM by Samsung per carrier request.
Here is how a firmware update process goes:
1. The carrier in question must feel the need for an firmware update. It's a big deal because it has to allocate resources for extensive testing, training of CSR and actual releasing.
2. The carrier makes a request for new firmware to Samsung.
3. Samsung builds the new firmware based on carrier's request and send to carrier for testing.
4. The carrier test extensively of the new build. If there are significant problems found, it goes back to step 3.
5. After extensive testing, carrier OKs the new firmware but need to pick a release date. Most importantly it has make sure it won't jeopardize the sales of new phones.
6. Once received OK from carrier, Samsung can put out the new firmware.
I'm not sure we are even past step 1 yet.
Oh man,
It's coming in the fall while we don't even have 4.0 ICS available yet
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224652/Google_exec_hints_of_Android_5.0_release_this_fall_?taxonomyId=15
I'm "in love" with AT&T
You're probably right, but it seems Rezound users aren't anxious to get 4.0, if you read through this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519312
I want ISC cause i've heard that optimizes to run faster on the devices (own a Xoom ISC). And my Note much slower and lagging than my ATT SG2.
The premise of the group was that phone manufacturers and wireless carriers would provide timely upgrades of devices during their first 18 months on the market.
That being said, following ATT upgrade timeline, we should see it by next Christmas if indeed it is released by fall.
I'm starting to think that if you want a specific flavor of Android, you better buy it with the flavor you want. Once they have you hooked they don't seem too interested in upgrading the OS. That goes for all devices, not just the Note. Just another reason to hate AT&T.
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I'm starting to think that if you want a specific flavor of Android, you better buy it with the flavor you want. Once they have you hooked they don't seem too interested in upgrading the OS. That goes for all devices, not just the Note. Just another reason to hate AT&T.
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I heard ya. ICS is not really my flavor. I just hope the Note will be smoother with ICS. If the Note as fast as my Gingerbread ATT S2 then i have no complain at all. Seriously, I use ICS 4.03 in my Xoom and didn't really see any huge improvement that i need to die for.
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You're probably right, but it seems Rezound users aren't anxious to get 4.0, if you read through this thread...
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They're pissed because their phone doesn't have ICS but a new phone coming out does.
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The premise of the group was that phone manufacturers and wireless carriers would provide timely upgrades of devices during their first 18 months on the market.
That being said, following ATT upgrade timeline, we should see it by next Christmas if indeed it is released by fall.
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If 5.0 is released in the fall, I have a hard time believing any carrier branded device out at the moment will have it by Christmas.
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They're pissed because their phone doesn't have ICS but a new phone coming out does.
If 5.0 is released in the fall, I have a hard time believing any carrier branded device out at the moment will have it by Christmas.
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I said NEXT christmas....read the article quote---the "team" has to get updates out within 18 months of release...so NEXT Christmas....If I meant Christmas 2012, then I would have just said "christmas"...."Next Christmas" means the next one coming not this one.
Most people don't even have ICS yet (nor will probably get it by THIS fall). I'm sure this is going to come to devices further down the road than we expect.
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I'm starting to think that if you want a specific flavor of Android, you better buy it with the flavor you want. Once they have you hooked they don't seem too interested in upgrading the OS. That goes for all devices, not just the Note. Just another reason to hate AT&T.
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Yep. It's odd to see people buy devices with some anticipation of an upgrade later rather than to use the device as is out of the box. True, manufacturers and carriers *should* provide updates, but as a consumer you should be sure that you're satisfied with what you're buying when you buy it.
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Yep. It's odd to see people buy devices with some anticipation of an upgrade later rather than to use the device as is out of the box. True, manufacturers and carriers *should* provide updates, but as a consumer you should be sure that you're satisfied with what you're buying when you buy it.
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I hope you see my thread above