[Q] Time To Upgrade? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I love this Galaxy Tab 10.1 (WiFi) but even with the CM10.0, it feels sluggish sometimes. I know it is now older tech. What ROM are you guys on? I like AOSP based ROMs more than TouchWiz..
I was thinking of selling this off (near perfect condition) and getting the Nexus 10. I would love to see benchmarks of that next to the Tab 10.1.
Thoughts?
BTW - I got an Apple iPad 4 mostly for work since AV manufactures all have apps for their products and I need to sell/use these. Honestly, the hardware is great, but I really do not like iOS, even after jailbroken and modded.

I use Infamous rom. If i had the money for a Nexus 10, I wouldve had it since it came out. Good hardware and best/latest Android versions.

Same problem here, I've tried loads of roms and they all lag in some way (infamous, AOKP, CM10 and CM10.1)
Not sure what to do next, it's just no where near as smooth as my galaxy s3 phone
Doubt you'll get much for this tab and the nexus is still quite expensive
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I am going to buy the new nexus 7 (hopefully it will not take to long to release it) and keep my Galaxy tab. Probably will buy in 1 year a new 10 inch tab.
With CM 10.1, my tab is very nice (apart from some issues, that will be fixed). A little bit of lag from time to time, but I can live with it for the moment.

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[Q] Samsung tab 10.1 OR Samsung g. Note 10.1?

Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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adamski123 said:
Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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it is neither lighter nor thinner , but has a faster processor and a pen
If you're price conscious then the original tab is a great buy. Also consider that accessories for the 10.1 Note will be at a premium while a ton of stuff for the original tab are on clearance.
Wait for the note... The pen is surprisingly great (on the note 5.3 anyway), and the faster processor will be a nice upgrade, because the Tegra 2 in the original 10.1 tab isn't great... Very laggy... Yes it's better with cm9, but still not that good.
I have a gt-p7510 Galaxy tab 10.1 and I like it, but if I didn't already have it, I would definitely wait for the note 10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
I too hate the lag and on video reviews of the note I thought it was very slow so good thing they are improving the processor.
I always wondered if you could use a stylus on the original tab. What is the upgrade that makes the note souh better with the stylus from the tab?
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vasp3690 said:
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you're planning to use it for note-taking, the note 10.1 is an easy choice. For everything else, you'll want to consider whether the faster processor is worth the price difference.
I would also wait on the note, even though it won't be out for a good while. I got the galaxy tab 10.1 a few weeks ago and am loving it so far. But this won't stop me from getting the note 10.1 the moment it becomes available (will have to sell this tab then lol). The biggest thing, for me personally, is the pen; stylus functionality isn't the best thing in the world when it comes to the original tab 10.1 even though it may be functional. But thats all it is, functional, not amazing or practical when it comes to taking notes (student's perspective). Of course the processor bump just makes it sweeter, I'm just hoping the price isn't too steep.
Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Yes the stylus isn't required. The touch capability would be the same as the current tab, if anything better (highly unlikely) when it comes to using your fingers. The stylus just adds the extra dimension of certain apps that take advantage of that, such as iAnnotate PDF, Zenbrush, etc. And lets not forget the superb precision the pen will bring when it comes to drawing and taking notes. If Samsung puts in an AMOLED HD screen (Ok I'm seriously asking for too much with this suggestion) this tablet will be beyond perfect, IMO.
If price isn't a concern, I'd say wait for the Note. Why buy last year's model when the new one is right around the corner? The processor bump will probably be enough to justify the price difference, but I'm happy enough with my Tab to sit this round out.
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
So here it is June. Any rumored dates for the Galaxy Note 10.1?
And will that justify a new forum, or will we continue with this one?
daniel_fm said:
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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Agree with this and i got no carrier limitations since i got international sim unlocked Tab and they cant prevent My upgrades
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Untrue. LG and Motorola have been far worse. Again, any carrier locked device is at the mercy of the carrier, not Samsung. Samsung may very well have pushed the ICS update to all the major carriers but they haven't pushed it out to their customers yet. Probably because they want to shove all their own UIs and bloatware on it first.
I would be getting the tab sim free and adding a sim to it later on. I much rather not have a locked device if I can buy it depending on price. So I presume updating wont be an issue.
Still no word from samsung though about the release dates
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Near the end of june now and still nothing from samsung for this one...
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help me decide nexus or s3

Hey guys I am up for a replacement on 8/20. I can't decide to get the s3 or the nexus
The s3 has so many features I love over the nexus.better battery life, bigger screen, more ram and a better processor.but the nexus has jellybean already.maybe some members who previously had a nexus can chime in and tell their personal opinion about the phones that would be awesome.thanks guys
Nexus or Sgs 3 and you thinkng??
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If you are aware for all of these advanteages, than why are you even asking?
It seems like you already know the answer
bottom line WHY GET AN OLD PHONE???
S3 is newer.....cant wait for the Note 2. that will be my next new toy.
I have both the Nexus and S3.
I haven't got around to putting on Jellybean on the Nexus yet.
The S3 feels better in your hand and runs smoother, thanks to the better CPU. The bigger screen is certainly better and doesn't feel awkward either.
The notification light on the S3 is much brighter and more vivid than on the Nexus.
You will also notice how much lighter and thinner the S3 is to the Nexus.
The MicroSD port in the S3 is a nice addition too, something which the Nexus doesn't have.
TouchWiz isn't that bad either and it doesn't seem to slow down the S3.
The only bad thing about the S3 is that the back cover, once removed is actually a bit flimsy. But once its on the main unit, the S3 device as a whole seems to be good quality. Not metal, but not cheap plastic either.
All in all the S3 is a generation ahead of the Nexus, no question about it.
I'm not the biggest Samsung fan, however, if the S3 has all that over the Nexus, I'd certainly go for the Sammy. The Android OS will/can be changed/updated by rooting it. That would give you all the benefits of the better hardware combined w/better roms anyway. If HTC is out of the running, Moto has nothing to offer (american made) and Nexus is that dated then my vote is the S3.
That said, I can't wait to get rid of my kindle fire for the new nexus tablet, that thing is the ****
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If your using an upgrade get the S3 and worst case trade for nexus + cash. If your buying outright consider value for price/performance ratio... ie: nexus ~$300 vs gs3 ~$600 is the gs3 worth almost double? Is it almost twice as good?
Don't get me wrong I love the gs3 lasts all day does it all, has a micro SD, no direct updates/vanilla experience yet AND its quite a bit more.. I could easily have a nexus + nexus 7 vs my 1 gs3....
Just something to consider
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kidhudi said:
Hey guys I am up for a replacement on 8/20. I can't decide to get the s3 or the nexus
The s3 has so many features I love over the nexus.better battery life, bigger screen, more ram and a better processor.but the nexus has jellybean already.maybe some members who previously had a nexus can chime in and tell their personal opinion about the phones that would be awesome.thanks guys
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I am in the same boat, dude.
No microSD card on the Nexus is actually a deal breaker for me. Gorilla glass is a necessity - i hate scratch phones. Sound quality for me is a priority and SIII wins hands down.
Thoughts for SIII:
- SD card
- Wolfson DAC
- BT apt-x
- gorilla glass
- better camera
- quad core
Well, the advantages of Nexus:
- price (around £120 less in this country)
- it is google = no bloat, good support, speedy updates
I think the wise decision would be go for SIII when the price drops a little (after iPhoney 5 is introduced)
Thanks guys I am 99 percent going with the s3. I just didn't want to be in same boat so am in right now with this thunderbolt.because of ril issues the t-bolt is still stuck in gingerbread.don't get me wrong the t-bolt has amazing devs.but htc sucks with updating.the phone. I see there is a port for JB already for the s3 but I fear it will be a dead project like all the t-bolt ICS
Roms. This is definitely my last HTC product.
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I see there is a port for JB already for the s3 but I fear it will be a dead project like all the t-bolt ICS
Roms.
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I hope I'm not misunderstanding you but you have NO reason to fear Jellybean becoming a dead project on the S3. Maybe that specific thread will die, but there absolutely will be Jellybean roms for the S3. Many I'm guessing. Just give it a month or two.
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I hope I'm not misunderstanding you but you have NO reason to fear Jellybean becoming a dead project on the S3. Maybe that specific thread will die, but there absolutely will be Jellybean roms for the S3. Many I'm guessing. Just give it a month or two.
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Yes that was my fear. the ICS roms on the t-bolt have been in limbo for months now. I am a flash-a-holic and i wanted to make sure this device would be cool. I would love to see a 100% working port of the release for the nexus on this phone. I am dying to check out the new google search feature. blow my i-freak freinds out of the water . they think siri is good wait till they see this.:laugh:

Thinking of buying i9300... how's development?

I have an SGS2. I realize the SGS2 has been a pain to develop for because it has no Nexus brother with similar hardware (I'm not talking about the i9100G, the regular GT-i9100).
However, since it's the most popular Android phone in the world, and the Note shared the same hardware, and now the i9300 uses Exynos SOC again, I see that CM9 got up and running on the SGS3 surprisingly fast. I'm not sure where in dev they are, but it seems most of the major features are working. Would I be incorrect to say that SGS2 development helped a lot with preparing the SGS3?
If this is the case, would it be safe to say that jumping from SGS2 to SGS3 wouldn't be a big loss in terms of losing custom rom features. In particular I'm just concerned with CM9. The nicer screen and a notification LED are certainly very important to me.
If you like stock roms or flashing rom then you might get the the Nexus instead, its made for development purposes. The Nexus is way ahead of the S3 in roms availability, and I'm not talking about S3 roms that just rehash Samsung stock firmware. There is a CM10 preview (as of writing) and its running pretty stable.
On performance side, once you run Jelly Bean on Nexus compared to CM10 on the S3, there isn't really much of difference, the S3 might win in some instances. They both can handle 720p MKV videos smoothly. The S3 does have a more powerful GPU so if you mainly play games on your phone, then get an S3. Running FPSE emulator on the S3, I got up to 500frames per seconds in games, that's faster than my in PC. Also the S3 camera is so much better. But if software is your main objective than I'd say get the Nexus, unless you want the Samsung proprietary features.
I had to choose between keeping the Nexus or the S3 and I sold my Nexus, but I will most likely sell the S3 once the new Nexus phones arrive.
Buy sgs3 and flash cm10 to it, it's development goes very fast, one new build per day.
I quess that sgs3 cm9 has same features that on sgs2 cm9.
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If you like stock roms or flashing rom then you might get the the Nexus instead, its made for development purposes. The Nexus is way ahead of the S3 in roms availability, and I'm not talking about S3 roms that just rehash Samsung stock firmware. There is a CM10 preview (as of writing) and its running pretty stable.
On performance side, once you run Jelly Bean on Nexus compared to CM10 on the S3, there isn't really much of difference, the S3 might win in some instances. They both can handle 720p MKV videos smoothly. The S3 does have a more powerful GPU so if you mainly play games on your phone, then get an S3. Running FPSE emulator on the S3, I got up to 500frames per seconds in games, that's faster than my in PC. Also the S3 camera is so much better. But if software is your main objective than I'd say get the Nexus, unless you want the Samsung proprietary features.
I had to choose between keeping the Nexus or the S3 and I sold my Nexus, but I will most likely sell the S3 once the new Nexus phones arrive.
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not much point in going nexus over my sgs2 except for software i figure, but the sgs3 is quad with much better battery life too.
i would certainly wait for a next generation nexus but we're still 4-5 months away... heh, and the past 2 Nexus phones seem to be the last of their era... the Nexus S was the same as a 6month old SGS1, and the GNex was about equal to an SGS2 except for the better screen.
Current development will stop Jelly Bean released soon by Samsung .
See XDA tomorrow .
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Bye Bye Flyer :(

So after 2 years of GREAT experiance with the device i sold it today due to no more support and i was stuck on 2.3 Ginger with it couse of BT support for calls.
Emo about the sell but hey,...
GL to all.
It's a pity. The tablet has potential for a completely functional ICS ROM. Had I more time to "nerd up" on being a Dev, I would gladly look at trying to bring the joys of ICS or JB goodness to all flyer users. The hardware itself is stunningly sleek. (Aluminum casing, ffs That's quality)
But alas, I have caved into my gadget lust for the latest Nexus 7. With the upcoming release of "KitKat" (seriously, Google...WHY???!?!), I do believe it is time to bid adieu to this great piece of tech as well. HTC......you had a LOT of potential for this device. Too bad ya botched up on pricing it out of the gate poorly The pen is also a great accessory.
As to the fate of my flyer. I'll prolly end up letting my son have it. We'll see.
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I've reluctantly moved on to the LG G Pad 8.3 as my primary tablet. I'm keeping my Flyer around for my four year old to play with. I'm running the JellyBean ROM on it for him to use, but I would love to see KitKat at some point! Flyer, you have served me well but died an early death.
thinking about it also....
I have been thinking about moving on myself - bought the Flyer refurb'd a year ago or so - rooted - have used a bunch of ROMS , LeeDroid was sweet , currently on some custom ICS phone ROM I think - but its starting to feel old...a little slow ...when I use my wifes iPad4 its just so much peppier - trying to decide between a Nexus 7 , Galaxy Tab 8.0 , iPad mini , or something else...not sure ...have trouble saying goodbye though....
I managed to sell my Evo View on ebay for $120. Then, I found a good deal for a Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012).
It definitely feels like a different beast with the screen size upgrade. However, I think the Evo View actually has a better screen and more accurate pen. The Evo View also felt nicer to hold and type with.
I would have kept my HTC if only they upgraded to Jelly Bean or higher.
Seems i have to force shut the apps im using now and then, running latest stock rom.
Thinking i shuld try a custom rom before letting my flyer go.

N9 or S2

Been looking for a decent Android tablet for a little while now and I have no idea what to go for? I love tinkering but I'm not very technically minded, so I have to depend on the awesome people at XDA for guides and advice.
I've narrowed my search to either a N9 or an S2, but can deviced which one would be better overall and to tinker with... Any advice ?
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I love the Nexus 9, out of all the Nexus tablet's I have owned it is the best, right Next to my Nexus 10. I recommend it 100%, but only if you plan on installing Lineage OS 14.1 or any other custom firmware. The display is fantastic too, I care more about colors than resolution, and the colors are perfect. Warm but still real. I love it. I have never used an S2 but the Nexus 9 is a dream. Fast, decent battery (takes ages to charge), and great multi tasking. Maybe I just got lucky though.
Verdict? if you want stable grab an S2 if you want a great tab too mess with grab an N9

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