Please I Want Blackberry Z10 Keyboard For Galaxy S3
Blackberry and android are very different os its not possible to port the keyboard you can only theme a keyboard with the blackberry z10 theme so that it looks like a blackberry keyboard
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nikhil18 said:
Blackberry and android are very different os its not possible to port the keyboard you can only theme a keyboard with the blackberry z10 theme so that it looks like a blackberry keyboard
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I didn't think they were too dissimilar, the z10 is based upon unix and android upon linux, linux is a clone of unix. There will be differences but i would imagine the port process be easier in comparison to the likes of ios - android.
Just my thought's, nothing to back that up with really
i'm also interested =)
I second this!
dladz said:
I didn't think they were too dissimilar, the z10 is based upon unix and android upon linux, linux is a clone of unix. There will be differences but i would imagine the port process be easier in comparison to the likes of ios - android.
Just my thought's, nothing to back that up with really
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Neither linux or unix use apk application packages. Android runs on the linux kernel but is quite different. If people can't port a sony xperia keyboard to the s3 due to framework dependencies, how realistic is porting the blackberry keyboard?
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rootSU said:
Neither linux or unix use apk application packages. Android runs on the linux kernel but is quite different. If people can't port a sony xperia keyboard to the s3 due to framework dependencies, how realistic is porting the blackberry keyboard?
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Did you even read my comment? easier in comparison to the likes of IOS ??
dladz said:
Did you even read my comment?
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I did yes. I actually quoted it in my last post.
dladz said:
easier in comparison to the likes of IOS ??
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But since both are impossible, how could any one be easier?
Also, since iOS is also Unix based, why would any one be easier? What is the technical reasoning behind why porting from one Unix system to a linux-kernel based system would be easier that porting from another Unix system to a linux-kernel based system?
Added to which, they're both closed source. ...and Unix is not Linux as much as Linux is a "clone" of Unix. Although we can run linux commands in Android and there are some vague similarities to Linux in the OS, it still is not linux. There has been some amazing work to compile linux libraries and applications to Android, but 98% of Linux stuff as yet, can still not be ported to Android, so porting Unix is kind of a moot point right now.
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I did yes. I actually quoted it in my last post.
But since both are impossible, how could any one be easier?
Also, since iOS is also Unix based, why would any one be easier? What is the technical reasoning behind why porting from one Unix system to a linux-kernel based system would be easier that porting from another Unix system to a linux-kernel based system?
Added to which, they're both closed source. ...and Unix is not Linux as much as Linux is a "clone" of Unix. Although we can run linux commands in Android and there are some vague similarities to Linux in the OS, it still is not linux. There has been some amazing work to compile linux libraries and applications to Android, but 98% of Linux stuff as yet, can still not be ported to Android, so porting Unix is kind of a moot point right now.
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it has nothing to do with linux or unix
android kernel is only linux nothing else.it only depend on application package android apps are apk and blackberry apps are .bar
only we need to do is we have to reveal its source and then do edits and pack it as apk
pradeepxtremehacker said:
it has nothing to do with linux or unix
android kernel is only linux nothing else.it only depend on application package android apps are apk and blackberry apps are .bar
only we need to do is we have to reveal its source and then do edits and pack it as apk
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Good luck!
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Now after reading the title I know what ure thinking 'this guy is a dumbasss' but i recently found a peice of developing software called unity and with this dev tool you can create apps in a certain code from what I understand and switch between platforms such as ios android xbox ps3 and windows mac linux from what i understand! of course when you switch youll have to change the aspect ratio and watnot.
I used to be an iphone user before i got my xperia play and i have quite a few beloved gaming apps. If i was to turn the ipa into .zip which i have done and unzipped all its contents and i then copied the contents to unity and switched platforms like i mentioned before how much work would that involved to get a simple game from ios to android. i suppose this is a question I should post on the unity site but I thought id post here first because there are many developers on xda who might have used unity software before unlike myself.
It doesn't work that way... you write the app with Unity, you can't just take someones binary blob and "convert" it with something like Unity. You would use Unity to write your own software. From scratch.
Trying to keep this as non technical as I can but basically the answer is no, it won't work. Sorry.
Could there be an iphone emulator created? Or is that not possible?
maddog00 said:
Could there be an iphone emulator created? Or is that not possible?
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Not possible iOS is not open source otherwise developers would be pounding out iOS ports to multiple devices. Unfortuantly there is no way to even possibly emulate it at this moment. Maybe in the future they will make it open source. whoo knows
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Could there be an iphone emulator created? Or is that not possible?
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Not possible. Not for at least another 10 years maybe.
This is the best chance you have of an iOS emulator: iEmu (ignore the cancelled status)
Keep an eye on the dev's Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/cmwdotme or the project homepage: http://www.iemu.org/index.php/Main_Page
The only fully functional iOS emulator that exists is apples own closed source emulator for the Mac, Its only really for app development though.
bubblegumballoon said:
The only fully functional iOS emulator that exists is apples own closed source emulator for the Mac, Its only really for app development though.
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Hence why iEmu is the best chance to get iOS on Android at the moment. Although it's based on QEMU, which is a full system emulator (hardware etc) so speed would be an issue. It's also still in very early development status
I don't understand why people are asking for ****ty UI ..................you guess right
zaryab said:
I don't understand why people are asking for ****ty UI ..................you guess right
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They dont want the iOS interface they want the ability to use iOS apps on android. You cant deny that iOS has alot more quality apps and games than android does.
However getting an iOS emulator on android is something which we will probably never see ever.
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It doesn't work that way... you write the app with Unity, you can't just take someones binary blob and "convert" it with something like Unity. You would use Unity to write your own software. From scratch.
Trying to keep this as non technical as I can but basically the answer is no, it won't work. Sorry.
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so what is in the app is a compiled version of the sofware which someone wrote which you cannot uncompile to switch platforms and then recompile is what i think your saying correct?
With the way apple acts they would probably throw a lawsuit at you for making that port. Ha ha ha!
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Has anyone seen this?
http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/
This could be the bomb... coding in C# for Android natively!! Even maybe some of the good developers here at XDA could make a C# native Android ROM with a Dalvik machine for compatibility with non-C# market apps??
They have made tests and it seems that C# ROMs run like 5-8 times faster and leech much less power ...
Cheers!!!
Java and C# is brother actually. Both have virtual machines, both came from C++. But creating a new variation of one of these is so unreliable. Dalvik is Basically Java's clone but not very succesful clone. Mono is C#'s VM's clone and very reliable. Linux, Mac and Windows has Mono Ports (actually windows has .net framework) Mono is great but you know microsoft doesn't like UNIX like systems especially linux based ones. Thus C# programming could be harder for people. Also C# for phones could be awesome. Since 2000's We already have javaVMs on phones. Why Not C#. (python is good too but google wants a new language called GO)
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...Mono is great but you know microsoft doesn't like UNIX like systems especially linux based ones...
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I think the problem is much greater with Google since they won't want a M$ programming language in their OS ... and that's a reason for which I'm sure they won't never support C# Android, but another thing are community ROMs.
Let time judge it.. but I think its good stuff...
Not only they do not 'want', they probably are not allowed as c# has patents. Look what is happening to google with java now owned by oracle..
Can I use android app on ubuntu Phone?
No. Ubuntu for android would run its own apps I would assume.
pureexe said:
Can I use android app on ubuntu Phone?
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no u cant because ubuntu is without java virtual machine...
I bet the devs will have some way to hack it to be able to run android apps.
Me
jon7701 said:
I bet the devs will have some way to hack it to be able to run android apps.
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Well I want to be the first one to do it!
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jon7701 said:
I bet the devs will have some way to hack it to be able to run android apps.
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Hey U dont need to hack ubuntu Its open!! So there gonna be some way to run android apps on your phone!
Cant we load up the Android SDK and run stuff that way? I know it would be slower than molasses but its a start....
I would imagine running bluestacks on a windows virtual machine would get the job done.
Ubuntu running Windows running Android on a phone. Crazy!
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mvgadagi said:
no u cant because ubuntu is without java virtual machine...
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Couldn't one just install a Java Virtual Machine?
I think we should wait for sources before starting this kind of discussions.
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I would imagine running bluestacks on a windows virtual machine would get the job done.
Ubuntu running Windows running Android on a phone. Crazy!
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I don't think you would be able to use a Windows because the processor would still be 16 bit
hay just wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
u can install android apps just so easy
install wine for windows emulator
install blue stack throw wine
run android app from wine
but i i think there will be much easy way than that in the future cus the system is not out yet so i think it will easy cus ubuntu or linux in fact is open source
neonlove said:
u can install android apps just so easy
install wine for windows emulator
install blue stack throw wine
run android app from wine
but i i think there will be much easy way than that in the future cus the system is not out yet so i think it will easy cus ubuntu or linux in fact is open source
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Yeah sure x86 apps works completely fine on a arm operating system which we don't even know if there is going to be a full ubuntu running on the background. [/sarcasm]
I think the main goal is running web apps on the OS not java or objective-c, so even if it has some sort of java support it would probably suck.
Android app on Ubuntu should be doable
Looking around it seems android apps don't actually use the android runtime. they are running on a vm called dalvik which itself is forked off of zygote. Both running on the Linux kernel. According to stackoverflow.com/questions/1297678/how-do-i-make-isolated-dalvik dalvik can be compiled separately from android. Shouldn't be too tough. Once I get full up Ubuntu running on my Next9p I'm going to attempt this. It would be nice to get a couple of android apps running on Ubuntu.
leventccc said:
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Yeah sure x86 apps works completely fine on a arm operating system which we don't even know if there is going to be a full ubuntu running on the background. [/sarcasm]
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Mark Shuttleworth said that this is the full Ubuntu OS just repolished and trimmed down for mobile.. Btw I think .deb packages will work.
darkforester67 said:
Mark Shuttleworth said that this is the full Ubuntu OS just repolished and trimmed down for mobile.. Btw I think .deb packages will work.
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I hope deb packages will work but I don't expect too much because its still mobile and it's designed to run light and small apps. Of course compiling a kernel for my device, on my device would be very cool but probably not gonna happen
neonlove said:
u can install android apps just so easy
install wine for windows emulator
install blue stack throw wine
run android app from wine
but i i think there will be much easy way than that in the future cus the system is not out yet so i think it will easy cus ubuntu or linux in fact is open source
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WINE is a recursive acronym which stands for WINE Is Not an Emulator. It translates Win32 API calls into Linux API calls, but it does not emulate a different processor architecture. You couldn't use it on an ARM processor to run apps compiled for X86.
Given the shared kernel and drivers and open-source nature, if Canonical releases the Galaxy Nexus images and source in a timely fashion, there will probably be enough developer interest for someone to bring Dalvik to Ubuntu mobile fairly quickly. The question is will it kill developer interest in building truly native apps for the Ubuntu mobile platform.
x86 on ARM
The question is will it kill developer interest in building truly native apps for the Ubuntu mobile platform.
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The attractiveness of Ubuntu on these increasingly powerful "mobile" devices is the millions of applications already available in the repositories (Ubuntu's "app store"). All of which are already free downloads. Granted some of them will be more usable than others on smaller screens. But, given a 10 inch screen or bigger, almost everything should run just fine. Since Ubuntu has only one code base for all of their varying distributions, I'm looking forward to UI and efficiency improvements across the entire platform.
As far as x86 hardware emulation... there are a couple of projects doing some work on implementing at least a subset of the more than 700 x86 instructions as an application level translator. One Russian company (1) has a working translator, albeit a slow one. They expect to be able to release something usable in the next year or so. Also, there is a thread (2) on the winehq mailing list that discussed this very possibility last year. IDK how far it went or whether anyone associated with the wine project is actually working on this or not.
(1) computerworld.com/s/article/9232222/Russian_startup_working_on_x86_to_ARM_software_emulator
(2) winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2011-April/089562.html
Qemu android is really fast with kvm on x86 in emulator. Choosing the custom screen resolution make it looks like SDL game. Can we do the same for arm to emulate android dalvik for apps? It can be just a separate package with android for ubuntu phone if seamless integration is impossible.
Of course you can run Android Apps in your Ubuntu on Android Desktop without Bluestacks or some sort of virtualisation...
Here are the facts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JISeFQ_1QzU 1:15 - Presentation by Canonical as you can see from all the Pictures with the Canonical Logo in the Image Viewer Application.
Was just wondering, can either Dalvik or ART be emulated/virtualized on Ubuntu Touch just enough to give it a base to run android apps on? from what i understand, i guess this will have to be done with either QML or HTML5.. i can code in both of them but would need help with the Dalvik or ART part... Any ideas/suggestions?
In theory it might work but have a look at this recent Google Plus comment by a Canonical employee (@mhall119):
we're not going to support running Android code on Ubuntu, it would be impossible to do it well, less alone perfectly. You can run standard Java code by packaging the JRE like Alan suggested, but there's usually going to be a C++ or Javascript alternative library for whatever you used in Java, and that would make for a better app.
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Source: https://plus.google.com/+MichaelHall119/posts/aPPVcxM29fe (highlighting by me)
Additionally, I don't think that Android apps would look good on Ubuntu Touch. The design is completely different.
If you have a look at the link above, you'll see that he is currently working on a way to convert Android xml files to qml though. That will make it easier for developers to make the switch.
Once Ubuntu Touch hits more of the main light I would assume Android Compatibility Layer would be ported. It works well on the HP Touchpad with webOS. And its easy to root ACL.
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I'm trying to settle a debate with a friend here, he is convinced that TouchWiz and Sense are not ROMs
However I think they are.
Who is correct on this one?
Thanks!
They are NOT ROMs. They never were. Both started as Samsung's and HTC's themes which replaced Android's default theme. Now, they are fully fledged UI and framework running atop (and thus replacing) Android's default (Holo/Material) theme and UI.
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchWiz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Sense
(PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Think of them as different distros of Linux. At the base they are the same thing but still have their own separate base system files.
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Think of them as different distros of Linux. At the base they are the same thing but still have their own separate base system files.
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Aren't they more like a graphical environments? For example, you can install multiple graphical environments on one distro (unity, gnome, kde, etc.).
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Aren't they more like a graphical environments? For example, you can install multiple graphical environments on one distro (unity, gnome, kde, etc.).
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No because unlike a graphical environment you can't remove it and keep all the features offered by the hardware. . Take Sense/Touchwiz/ or what ever one you know and compare it to aosp. You lose hardware options. Which wouldn't happen if it was all graphical. Not only do they change the looks of it. They also rebuild alot of the base OS files with their own versions. So it is more a distro then just a graphical environment