if ? but ? when ? not possible ? am i dreaming ? lol
this is just for general chat for now
anyone know more than someone else share it here
whats peoples views so far ?
gav-collins1983 said:
if ? but ? when ? not possible ? am i dreaming ? lol
this is just for general chat for now
anyone know more than someone else share it here
whats peoples views so far ?
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I know it isn't out yet, no release date announced, and most likely won't make it to our evo. Is there really a point for this? Stop acting like a kid a few days before Christmas. Only difference is, Christmas you typically get what you wanted.
We don't even have jelly bean except for a few roms. They work well, but aren't perfect. It's almost a year after jb and we just got it and bugs aren't worked out yet. Plus, a lot of developers have moved on. Contracts are getting close to up for a lot of early adopters and they, like myself, will likely move on too. We may only have a couple of devs left here by the time klp drops.
Sorry to be a downer, but we haven't been the thriving community we once were and htc seems to have abandoned us.
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So true so true. The evo 3d had a lot of potential and a great Dev community. As far as HTC was concerned, they care more about money than the consumer so its not surprising they dropped the evo 3d to work on another mid range device. Hardly worth the need to upgrade with very few spec upgrades. Evo 4g lte will probably abandoned sometime this year for a quad core 2gb ram device. Most carriers don't have lte set up everywhere where anybody can take advantage of it. It will be a miracle if HTC pushes a jb update to the evo 3d. If it did. You can guarantee that key lime pie will never see evo 3d
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Are you asking about a port of an AOSP based ROM or a Sense based release from HTC? If it's the former, there's a slim chance if all the developers haven't moved on to other devices by the time KLP is released, but there is zero chance of an official Sense based version.
ramjet73
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Are you asking about a port of an AOSP based ROM or a Sense based release from HTC? If it's the former, there's a slim chance if all the developers haven't moved on to other devices by the time KLP is released, but there is zero chance of an official Sense based version.
ramjet73
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Actually even that won't be possible unless we can get our kernels to work with ION memory allocation. ION is a requirement for 4.1.2+, we were able to get 4.1.2 working by using hacks to use old code and 4.2.1 by using legacy code (same hacks, but much harder to implement).
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Actually even that won't be possible unless we can get our kernels to work with ION memory allocation. ION is a requirement for 4.1.2+, we were able to get 4.1.2 working by using hacks to use old code and 4.2.1 by using legacy code (same hacks, but much harder to implement).
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So 4.2.2 will probably be the last hooray for our device?
"Much Ado About Nothing"...lol
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If you want KLP, go buy a Gnex, I agree with all before me, KLP and E3D are not gonna happen
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Actually even that won't be possible unless we can get our kernels to work with ION memory allocation. ION is a requirement for 4.1.2+, we were able to get 4.1.2 working by using hacks to use old code and 4.2.1 by using legacy code (same hacks, but much harder to implement).
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wasn't ION memory allocation introduced in android 4.0? so shouldn't the stock HTC kernel support it? if not, what is the problem with getting it working?
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wasn't ION memory allocation introduced in android 4.0? so shouldn't the stock HTC kernel support it? if not, what is the problem with getting it working?
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Here's a post from dastin1015 that explains it in more detail.
ramjet73
well we got the villec2 kernel source + the evo kernel source. can't we just port a part of the ION memory allocation from the one s to the evo?
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Kiinasu said:
well we got the villec2 kernel source + the evo kernel source. can't we just port a part of the ION memory allocation from the one s to the evo?
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Dastin said that's a very difficult task
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Kiinasu said:
well we got the villec2 kernel source + the evo kernel source. can't we just port a part of the ION memory allocation from the one s to the evo?
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You still have to properly calculate the memory allocation. msm8660 actually has to use the frame buffer of an msm8960 device. The panel and board config files need to be changed to use the new frame buffer and memory allocation. The camera drivers also have to be changed to use ION and a common-ish camera driver. Not a simple port.
私のEVO 4G LTEから送信される。
You don't have to keep re-explaining yourself brother as to the reason why. People should just learn how to search better.
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You still have to properly calculate the memory allocation. msm8660 actually has to use the frame buffer of an msm8960 device. The panel and board config files need to be changed to use the new frame buffer and memory allocation. The camera drivers also have to be changed to use ION and a common-ish camera driver. Not a simple port.
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Dafuq did i just read
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You still have to properly calculate the memory allocation. msm8660 actually has to use the frame buffer of an msm8960 device. The panel and board config files need to be changed to use the new frame buffer and memory allocation. The camera drivers also have to be changed to use ION and a common-ish camera driver. Not a simple port.
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thanks for your answer. i started to realize the problem. sometimes i just forget how much depends on little devices differences. think the interest for devs on this device, will be to low, once klp comes out, to make this happen....
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You don't have to keep re-explaining yourself brother as to the reason why. People should just learn how to search better.
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well if he would be super annoyed, i think he wouldn't answer. and it's extremely hard to find real information about hardware things.
ognimnella said:
If you want KLP, go buy a Gnex, I agree with all before me, KLP and E3D are not gonna happen
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What makes you sure gnex will get klp?
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What makes you sure gnex will get klp?
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Nexus devices always get the latest and greatest because they r pure Google android devices. They rolled out JB for the nexus s and it is older (and less spec savvy IMO) than the Evo 3D. Whether or not SAMSUNG chooses to update, GOOGLE will, I'm sure the gnex is slighted for next two OS versions at the least, because it can with ICS and 4.1 and 4.2 were released so quickly that it really can't be seen as 2 MAJOR updates, just my take
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Nexus devices always get the latest and greatest because they r pure Google android devices. They rolled out JB for the nexus s and it is older (and less spec savvy IMO) than the Evo 3D. Whether or not SAMSUNG chooses to update, GOOGLE will, I'm sure the gnex is slighted for next two OS versions at the least, because it can with ICS and 4.1 and 4.2 were released so quickly that it really can't be seen as 2 MAJOR updates, just my take
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The carriers do control you though. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus is in testers phase now for 4.2.2 meaning it's preparing for an OTA, while the rest of the GNEX devices have been updated.
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Nexus devices always get the latest and greatest because they r pure Google android devices. They rolled out JB for the nexus s and it is older (and less spec savvy IMO) than the Evo 3D. Whether or not SAMSUNG chooses to update, GOOGLE will, I'm sure the gnex is slighted for next two OS versions at the least, because it can with ICS and 4.1 and 4.2 were released so quickly that it really can't be seen as 2 MAJOR updates, just my take
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Nexus S only got 4.1. No official 4.2 update.
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Related
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
That's great, how about a stable CM7 for us?
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Don't think most really care about cm7. I mean if you want to spend days/weeks working on an obsolete OS go for it. That's why no one is working on cm7.
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That's great, how about a stable CM7 for us?
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Yeah, would still love a stable CM7. When I got this phone on launch day I told myself that I'll wait to root until there is a stable CM7. Finally I said screw it, and by then I had hboot 1.50. Kinda sucks.
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Yeah, would still love a stable CM7. When I got this phone on launch day I told myself that I'll wait to root until there is a stable CM7. Finally I said screw it, and by then I had hboot 1.50. Kinda sucks.
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you should have rooted and then wait for CM7.
but anyways, stable CM7 should be coming.
@cyanogen cyanogen
We're still going to get CM7.2 out the door while CM9 is being worked on.
unknown1205 said:
you should have rooted and then wait for CM7.
but anyways, stable CM7 should be coming.
@cyanogen cyanogen
We're still going to get CM7.2 out the door while CM9 is being worked on.
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Yeah, probably. lol. Didn't think HTC was gonna screw me over like this. Was planning on never buying an HTC product again, but now there are leaks of a possible 2.5ghz quad-core...
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Ok...I'll ask...what happened to CM"8"?
Holyrolla said:
Ok...I'll ask...what happened to CM"8"?
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CM8 would have been honeycomb.
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Nevermind...It was as I figured...no Honeycomb...but isn't Honeycomb source in the repo now?
EDIT: Thanks Flonker
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Nevermind...It was as I figured...no Honeycomb...but isn't Honeycomb source in the repo now?
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Yeah, I think they released it, but now that ICS is the standard for both phones and tabs, it will be interesting to see how much effort gets put into development of honeycomb.
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Nevermind...It was as I figured...no Honeycomb...but isn't Honeycomb source in the repo now?
EDIT: Thanks Flonker
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It's in there but not fully tagged throughout like other builds are. So it'd be tough to find all the specific honeycomb parts.
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This phone has me wanting to drop it for a Galaxy Nexus once it's out...
The 3D I really don't care much about. It was the hardware that sold me. This is un-selling it for me.
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This phone has me wanting to drop it for a Galaxy Nexus once it's out...
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Same here. Early next year, my wife's contract is up with Verizon and she'll be switching to Sprint. She's volunteered to take my Evo 3D and I plan on snagging either a Galaxy Nexus or whatever the new hotness is at the time. I've always wanted one of the Nexus variants so that's probably what I'll end up with.
Will it be available for EVO 3d gsm?
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Will it be available for EVO 3d gsm?
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Not without someone developing it.
The EVO 3D GSM dev Forum really needs some help.
ive been using cm7 since it became available and mine has been running great! i dont care much for the 3d or 4g though!
sweet cant wait for this i miss cm7 but want a stable build before i throw it on here. cool stuff tho.
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
There are a number of challenges that we are up against. Google has made some pretty major changes to the Android framework that break compatibility with older proprietary camera and graphics drivers in order to achieve some pretty insane performance, but I am confident that the team will be able to overcome these issues like we have in the past.
For those of you who like to build CM from source yourself, you probably know that the spin-up time when starting a CM7 build is absurdly long due to the high number of devices in our repository. Koush and Arcee have put together a solution to this problem that adds new devices on-demand to your local repository, saving on both bandwidth and the long startup time. Some other great enhancements are coming too, like a completely overhauled music app, a new file manager, and a new launcher based on stock 4.0.
If you have a Nexus S, you can check out the code and build for yourself today. More devices are on the way, and I’ll send out these status updates as we make more progress.
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
I wonder if HTC will just give up and release just ICS for their older phones and work on Jelly Bean for their new ones
Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I can agree with that, mostly. What I'm trying to say is that, after a release from HTC, we hopefully won't have to worry too much about JB in the future.
Plus as long as jellybean drops within eighteen months technically we are supposed to get it .
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I would almost be happy if jelly bean would wait, I would like to see a aosp ics rom fully functional first. We haven't seen a really smooth aosp rom out of alpha yet for the 3d. Either way. Just getting tired of sense but that's just me.
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ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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A little optimistic?
ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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lol... even though they will initially anounce "early" or "first quarter" 2013!
ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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That's when we get ics on the 3D
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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fpineda101 said:
That's when we get ics on the 3D
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lmao...
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bloodrain954 said:
People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Not confirmed so I wouldn't spread it like it is.
This is a rumor at time of writing
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Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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bloodrain954 said:
People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Careful with those words as that's not even close to being confirmed...nor does it make much sense...
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Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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With that I totally agree
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Even when jelly bean gets released you can easily add another 12 months onto that before there's a working evo version
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Hey guys, why are people talking about jailbait in this thread?
Even though we're still in the midst of the ice cream sandwich fiasco, is it plausible that we'll see Jelly Bean on the 3d since it isn't a major overhaul?
The worlds gonna end before we see either
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What's the difference between jb and ics???
ridleyj329 said:
What's the difference between jb and ics???
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Idk if there is anything definitive yet other than it will be Android version 4.1. So probably performance and bug fixes with minor new features.
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Hopefully we will see Jb
But probably not android 5
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It would be funny if that's gonna be our ota update but I highly doubt it
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Fat chance in hell we're receiving a Jellybean OTA. The OG Evo got 1 major lifetime upgrade to GB. So we can expect the same for our 3D's as well.
The differences so far from 4.0.4 (ICS) and 4.1 (Jellybean) are Chrome is now the default browser, and a more sophisticated search widget. That's only what I've seen, there are probably 100's more.
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Idk if there is anything definitive yet other than it will be Android version 4.1. So probably performance and bug fixes with minor new features.
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Most likely. And I'm sure a few UI changes. They completely revamped androids UI with 4.0 so I'm sure some tweaking is sure to follow.
And a nice slue of performance increases the likes of which 2.2 brought would be nice one can hope.
What would also be nice is if it consumed less battery. All the new graphics drain more than people tend to know
Also, since the VM evo 3d is launching with ics, with jelly bean just around the corner will it receive the update?
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I'm hoping jelly bean brings group messaging. Since no app can achieve it, native functionality would be nice.
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It's been confirmed with Sprint. They don't sell candy to users.
But seriously, I remember HTC agreeing with some update alliance a long time ago. They agreed to keep all devices updated for 18 months. considering it's been 12 months and Jellybean is coming out soon, we should get the update but I don't know if HTC will folllow through.
Even if they don't, CM9 by then will hopefully have WiMax and 3D so it's just a matter of CM9 getting updated to CM10.
OMG EVERYONE I JUST GOT THE JELLYBEAN UPDATE! OTA! CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT!? lol!
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OMG EVERYONE I JUST GOT THE JELLYBEAN UPDATE! OTA! CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT!? lol!
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yup i almost due
Why stop at Jelly Bean let's start asking about Key Lime Pie. smh
I want cupcake back
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Nsandhu23 said:
I'm hoping jelly bean brings group messaging. Since no app can achieve it, native functionality would be nice.
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HTC does it
I agree though - when I switched from GB Sense 2.1/3.0 to ICS AOSP the group messaging hit me
the work around was to compose a message with all the recipients and then you have the 'group message' set up and can send to all at once.
schmeggy929 said:
Why stop at Jelly Bean let's start asking about Key Lime Pie. smh
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Or Creme Brulee after that
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Or Creme Brulee after that
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but that'd be C...
we'd have to go through k->z and back to a and b before creme brulee!
Assuming the driver model doesn't change that much (and that we ever get stable ICS drivers), we'll get it from one of the AOSP projects eventually. I highly doubt we'll see an "official" JB release.
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Assuming the driver model doesn't change that much (and that we ever get stable ICS drivers), we'll get it from one of the AOSP projects eventually. I highly doubt we'll see an "official" JB release.
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hmmm when was our phone released? lol. 18 months.... hmmmm I vote that we sue sprint then HTC if it isn't released to us. If they develop a product, SOMEONE BETTER INSURE THEY SUPPORT that product! Cheaper to finish supporting the phone than it will be if I sue them for 120 Million each. You know that HTC and sprint both read these forums. I wouldn't be surprised if they have someone that is paid just to read these and keep them informed of what we want and say.
haha, jellybean on the 3D.... HIGHLY unlikely.
but you never know
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-9-rc2-emerges-new-devices-stability-improvements
So its not like I didn't see it coming when samsung hired steve, but geeeeez. Samsung devices are #1 priority I guess these days. I liked it better when the love was more evenly distibuted. But its good news anyway.
I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
miguelfp1 said:
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
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Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
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LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
swaze said:
LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
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Few months for RC, yeah...hell some CM's never leave Alpha haha.
Suitable for Daily Driving in a few weeks at most I would say.
where would one find this ROM?
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where would one find this ROM?
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Not released yet. Still No Wifi and the RIL isn't playing nicely - as is almost always the case with CDMA devices - so No Voice or Data either.
Pretty much from what I gathered it boots and runs and that's about it.
We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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They have been lately.
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What? Still no 4.0.4 kernel sources
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Kcarpenter said:
Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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They don't make all of the nexus line.. HTC had one early on. Google has just chosen to go with sammy lately
MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
Rxpert said:
SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
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Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
SoraX64 said:
We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
eao1991 said:
Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
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Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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I think he just meant we should have known we weren't getting RC2 since we haven't obtained official support yet.
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guih said:
Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Samsung does update quick. Ignoring the wider user base of GSM carriers, CDMA carriers such as VZW and Sprint always tend to lag behind updates. Due to CDMA restrictions that can't be open-sourced, Samsung doesn't control the entire software update and adds to the delay. Take a look at devices that were released with Gingerbread and see how many of those have ICS. Chances are they're almost all GSM devices.The HTC Rezound on Verizon came out later than the Epic 4G Touch and has yet to see ICS. The Evo 3D and Design 4G won't see ICS till next month. Besides, the Epic 4G Touch was receiving ICS leaks since early this year.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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No one said that. But we DON'T as of now so of course we didn't get the update.
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So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
I'm gonna make it as brief as possible.
We can't release it on XDA or link to it because it is considered kang. The ROM is based off of a Viper3D build and was used without permission. Now unless Team Venom gives us permission to release their ROM with working 3D here on XDA, we can't do it because then that's kanging someone else's work, and that's highly frowned upon here, and leads to heavy infractions
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I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
B3!CrAZy said:
I can not understand how is it possible that only one team is capable to make 3D work. Why can not someone else make it from the basis without their rom?
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I am pretty sure coolexe or anryl or mwakious could do it if they have time
Somebody could definitely do it, but it would be a very hard thing to do since HTC doesn't hand out their 3D drivers. That team who got it working guaranteed was working for weeks and weeks on end getting it working, somebody here could do it for sure, but nobody has tried yet, and its probably something that's more trouble than its worth. Even if we looked at what that team did to get it working we can't use any of that, or even copy any of that because then it would still be kanging their work. Its something we either A) need to get permission for or B) take care of ourselves, but have that be 10000x harder. Its not impossible, but it is improbable
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This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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hossman said:
This is ridiculous in my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed but the whole purpose of android being open source is so anyone and everyone can contribute and make it a better experience.
I understand the HTC drivers are proprietary, but in my eyes, if you've made something better why not share it with the world...are these 'team' members making money on these fixes, are they coming out with their own proprietary phones...that's the only reason I can see to necessitate keeping these fixes to yourself...yes I applaud any ROM dev for their work (I sure as hell couldn't do what they do) but what's the point in the end? Bragging rights? Come on!
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Amen to that
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kajoshin201095 said:
So it seems there is that Chinese Rom with Sense 4.1 and working 3D, this is amazing, however, it is the only one of it's type.
The fact that HTC did not release the Driver Sources made me somehow hate them and it was the reason why many bugy couldnt be fixed, many devs left.
So, this Chinese Rom is removed because it is not allowed according to the rules, but... why exactly?
Could someone please post information on this story, really, this is EXTREMELY important, it could change our 3volife
Is it because it's a Viper fix, why then don't they release the fix?
So, the simple question is:
What's the fuzz about the 3D-fix? Somehow no one knows whats going on!
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Android is open source, you changed is the exclusive copyright? This is not unreasonable.
If anyone need help, you can email me
The rules centered around this are not android related. It has nothing to do with open source, they're xda's rules. It makes sense why they're there (that way we don't see the same exact ROM under a different name pop up every 20 minutes, etc.). I don't like the rule either but hey, its just something we gotta live with
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I think that we could do an exception for 3D in 4.1 sense...
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
elitman said:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...1-0-0-full-3d-beats-audio-high-quality-3.html
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CDMA????
SketchyStunts said:
CDMA????
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it is a german forum. So it is probably GSM. I gonna try it now. (With my GSM-device)
Gonna be quite honest, hit up that link while you can because it ain't gonna be there for long
SketchyStunts said:
CDMA????
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GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Sieht gut aus, heruntergeladen! I'll probably tear the rom apart and see about making it CDMA worthy, though I won't be able to share it once I'm done being it's Kang'ed...
elitman said:
GSM - working like a charm. Using the 2.0 version. Aroma is in Germany but pretty understandable.
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Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
thesniffer said:
Is Sense scroll lagging for you?
I'm asking this coz had no problems at all with the original chinese ROM, but after flashing this one got lags during Sense pages scrolling
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No lags at all. What I experienced was huge battery drain. So, right now, I oam in the process of reverting back to stock ROM. Tired of all these tests. Gonna get SIII tomorrow anyway
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Lothaen said:
So we have fixed 3D camera now? ICS or JB?
Don't seem to see a straight answer. Only that it is using venom tweaks without perms..?
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Well, we do have full 3D working on a ICS Sense 4.1 ROM