SO i have this common problem. Anytime i'm somewhere with a bad signal, my phone gets really hot and battery get really low.
The phone gets stuck syncing, so i manually turn off sync and kill any ongoing sync. But it happens even when the signal really isn't bad.
For example tonight, it said i had 3g, but i wasn't getting any data. So i went outside and still 3g. I turn airplane mode on.. then off again, then presto i have 4g.
I think something is happening where it gets stuck in 3g or 1x with no data, and it makes no attempts to go back to 3g, or back to 4g, it just sits there burning up my battery.
SO a: should the phone ever get really hot to the touch ? (The back.. it's the battery that is warm i'm sure)
b. What i can i do so it will stop being so stupid and pick up the good 4g when it's clearly there...
c. I just have to stop this losing battery power in 20 min flat problem. My wife has the same phone and she has no such problems.
I can tell it's doing it as i can fell my pocket getting hot. That shouldn't happen in my opinion.
What software are you running stock of other?
It's not a glitch, this isn't Wreck it Ralph.
Stock
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See the attached for tonight's drain .
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weren't there reports of people having an issue like this with the phone getting stuck when switching from 3g / 4g? i'm wanting to say i've heard of stock phones doing that and a replacement phone fixed it. unless you want to keep using a manual effort to force it back like what you are doing with airplane mode...
I've had similar issues in low signal areas (unfortunately that is the norm where I work). It doesn't happen all the time, maybe once a week where the phone gets really hot even when not in use. I reboot to fix.
I was running Viper for months and it happened with both stock and that ROM. Running CM10.1 now, and I'll see if that changes anything.
Sorry, but I guess I have nothing to add for cause or solution, just thought I'd share having the same issue.
danjfoley said:
SO i have this common problem. Anytime i'm somewhere with a bad signal, my phone gets really hot and battery get really low.
The phone gets stuck syncing, so i manually turn off sync and kill any ongoing sync. But it happens even when the signal really isn't bad.
For example tonight, it said i had 3g, but i wasn't getting any data. So i went outside and still 3g. I turn airplane mode on.. then off again, then presto i have 4g.
I think something is happening where it gets stuck in 3g or 1x with no data, and it makes no attempts to go back to 3g, or back to 4g, it just sits there burning up my battery.
SO a: should the phone ever get really hot to the touch ? (The back.. it's the battery that is warm i'm sure)
b. What i can i do so it will stop being so stupid and pick up the good 4g when it's clearly there...
c. I just have to stop this losing battery power in 20 min flat problem. My wife has the same phone and she has no such problems.
I can tell it's doing it as i can fell my pocket getting hot. That shouldn't happen in my opinion.
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I have actually posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1017241
before but it seem the problem isn't about battery over heat after i got a brand new genuine battery, so i like to start a new thread.
I have pinpoint the problem to be more specific only limit to 3G usage. The phone will just shut off after using 3g outside (rogers) for sometime at least when phone heat up and it will go into shut off cycle. Whenever i turn it back on it would simply reboot itself once i did the initial unlock and keep doing so as soon 3g power on.
I would like to ask if anyone have similar issue with this and a fix? could the cause be baseband ?
I never experience shut off if i am using wi-fi in my house or on a hotspot outside. No matter what i do on the phone.
I've been using Android phones since the first Droid in November, 2009. My most recent phone (before my Thunderbolt) was a Droid Incredible. I loved the incredible but upgraded to the TB on the last day of unlimited data so I could lock it in for 2 more years.
However, there are some anomalies, aka problems, with the Thunderbolt that I didn't experience on the Incredible. I'm hoping you can help me decide if this is because of a faulty phone or I have to live with these.
1. GPS. I leave the GPS on all the time. I know, it's a battery hit, but I use it enough to just leave it on. However, on the Thunderbolt, after I've picked a destination in Google Maps, I often get a message at the bottom of the map stating: "Waiting for GPS". Yesterday I drove over 20 miles before it locked into GPS. This happens frequently. On the Incredible I never saw "Waiting for GPS" ever. Not once. Do I have to live with this? Is this the nature of the beast? Or do I have a faulty unit?
2. Data connection. Often when I try to do something data-wise such as the browser, etc. I get a message stating there's no data connection. I look at the notification bar and see that there are 3 or 4 bars in my signal strength area but no data information. There's no 3G, 1X or 4G indicator. Nothing. That area has just vanished from the notification bar. I've tried turning data on/off, I've tried going into and out of airplane mode, nothing turns data back on. I eventually have to hold the power button down and tap on "reset." That does the trick and I'll have data once it's reset. Again, is this normal or is there a setting somewhere where I can coax data into coming on. Or is this a faulty unit?
3. Screen dimming oddness. I have the car holder. I like it a lot. When I put it in the car holder I see the little lightning bolt over the battery indicator indicating it's charging. I have set the settings option to keep the screen on when it's plugged in so I can see the maps while driving. However, after a period of time the screen goes dim. It doesn't turn off, just dim. Touching the screen brings it to full brightness. However, that's dangerous while driving.
When this happens I notice that the lightning bolt doesn't appear over the battery any more. It's as if the charger stopped charging and I am running on battery. However, that can't be the case since the battery never drains. Even after 5 hours of driving the battery doesn't go down. It just doesn't have a lighting bolt and the screen will go dim. I can dismount and remount the phone in the car holder and the lightning bolt will reappear. As long as the lightning bolt is there the screen won't dim. But after a while the lightning bolt goes away and the screen will dim again. This is very annoying.
Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
Here are details on my phone. Stock Android, not rooted. Android 2.2.1 Build: 1.13.605.7
Thanks in advance
The GPS is sadly a known issue but a fix can be found here. I use OMFGB and have flawless GPS even w/o the fix.
Your issue with data is kinda odd. Perhaps you can try flashing a newer radio. A list of Radio's and ROM's that are compatible with them is here
I am also unsure about your Car Dock issue since I dont use that feature. The above link for radio's and ROMs might fix that issue as well.
I dont recall having any weird issues like that when I had my 1st Thunderbolt, a side from call quality problems and bad battery.
I ended up taking it back and got an Incredible 2. never had any problems with the Inc 2 but did not that the battery was only a little bit better then the Thunderbolt's(during heavy usage) & since I did like the bigger size of the TB I ended up trading with someone on these forums and now I have a T B again. Same battery issues & same call quality issues.
I think once Verizon gives the $400 deposit back after the 1st year im just going to buy somwtjing new.
I had I similar issue with the data connection disappearing all of a sudden. This started to happen after I flushed MR2 OTA radio. I have since tried MR2 leaked and R2 gingerbread radios and both did not have this problem. Good luck!
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Thanks for the quick responses. Currently, since this is a corporate phone, I don't intend to root or change roms. Any other ideas?
The new gingeritis roms and he new gb radio are both from the new gb base that's supposed to be released for the TB soon. I would try them, you might be on an old radio and kernel that's just not working for your phone, try the new ones and see if that helps. If not, it might be a hardware problem, cuz I have none of those issues on the new radio and gingeritis 3d, or the old radio and stock rom, or any other rom for that matter.
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Woohoo! The GPS Status program corrected my GPS issue. Thanks a bunch for that tip.
Now, how about the data issue or the dimming issue. Any thoughts on those two items?
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I've been using Android phones since the first Droid in November, 2009. My most recent phone (before my Thunderbolt) was a Droid Incredible. I loved the incredible but upgraded to the TB on the last day of unlimited data so I could lock it in for 2 more years.
However, there are some anomalies, aka problems, with the Thunderbolt that I didn't experience on the Incredible. I'm hoping you can help me decide if this is because of a faulty phone or I have to live with these.
1. GPS. I leave the GPS on all the time. I know, it's a battery hit, but I use it enough to just leave it on. However, on the Thunderbolt, after I've picked a destination in Google Maps, I often get a message at the bottom of the map stating: "Waiting for GPS". Yesterday I drove over 20 miles before it locked into GPS. This happens frequently. On the Incredible I never saw "Waiting for GPS" ever. Not once. Do I have to live with this? Is this the nature of the beast? Or do I have a faulty unit?
2. Data connection. Often when I try to do something data-wise such as the browser, etc. I get a message stating there's no data connection. I look at the notification bar and see that there are 3 or 4 bars in my signal strength area but no data information. There's no 3G, 1X or 4G indicator. Nothing. That area has just vanished from the notification bar. I've tried turning data on/off, I've tried going into and out of airplane mode, nothing turns data back on. I eventually have to hold the power button down and tap on "reset." That does the trick and I'll have data once it's reset. Again, is this normal or is there a setting somewhere where I can coax data into coming on. Or is this a faulty unit?
3. Screen dimming oddness. I have the car holder. I like it a lot. When I put it in the car holder I see the little lightning bolt over the battery indicator indicating it's charging. I have set the settings option to keep the screen on when it's plugged in so I can see the maps while driving. However, after a period of time the screen goes dim. It doesn't turn off, just dim. Touching the screen brings it to full brightness. However, that's dangerous while driving.
When this happens I notice that the lightning bolt doesn't appear over the battery any more. It's as if the charger stopped charging and I am running on battery. However, that can't be the case since the battery never drains. Even after 5 hours of driving the battery doesn't go down. It just doesn't have a lighting bolt and the screen will go dim. I can dismount and remount the phone in the car holder and the lightning bolt will reappear. As long as the lightning bolt is there the screen won't dim. But after a while the lightning bolt goes away and the screen will dim again. This is very annoying.
Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
Here are details on my phone. Stock Android, not rooted. Android 2.2.1 Build: 1.13.605.7
Thanks in advance
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I have had these problems on stock, rooted, and custom ROMs, esp the data signal disappearing and also the screen dimming while using google maps. Not sure what the problem is. Make sure you leave wifi on when using gps also, this will help it get locks faster.
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I have had these problems on stock, rooted, and custom ROMs, esp the data signal disappearing and also the screen dimming while using google maps. Not sure what the problem is. Make sure you leave wifi on when using gps also, this will help it get locks faster.
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I actually have wifi hotspot turned on when I travel so I can use my Galaxy Tab on the Internet. So, leaving wifi on isn't a real option. However, the tips above seemed to have fixed the GPS lock.
Alright, so this phone is becoming extremely frustrating.
The very first day i got the rezound I had it for literally five hours right from the store and I figured i would restart it to freshen things up after messing around with setting up my home screens.
Upon my phone turning back on, it booted up to the lockscreen... froze... turned itself on and then restarted itself and it LOOPS... it does NOT get past this point it bootloops the process
So I pulled the battery a few times, then did a factory reset in hboot and the problem fixed itself, so I gave it the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe it was just a fluke so i reset everything back up... now three days later... I restarted the phone... upon turning it back on... SAME THING... BOOTLOOPING for no reason
I have never tried to temp root my phone or do anything whatsoever. This is a 100% legit phone but its becoming extremely annoying. Im returning this thing to VZW tonight and exchanging it for another one but im torn between exchanging it for a different rezound or just straight up returning it and waiting for the nexus december 8th to come out.
There have been ALOT of reported problems with this phone from my bootlooping... dead pixels... horrible battery life... etc
Dont reboot it anymore. There is an app in the market called fast reboot.when you need to freshen the phone just push the icon and it wiill get all the free memory in about 10-15 seconds.
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im supose to be locked into a phone for the next 2 years that i cant reboot because it bootloops?
I have seen several people with boot-looping issues.
I'm not one of them and I don't think it is rampant with this phone. As for dead pixels and horrible battery life - those issues are even fewer and far between.
I wouldn't say there have been ALOT; probably a normal percentage of definite defective units mixed with people being unfamiliar with "how things work" on a phone like this.
..... my $.02
yeah im returning it at VZW tonight for a new unit... if the second one has any issues at all that have been described on this forum so sorry i gave them two chances... returning and waiting for nexus
You also gotta realize your hearing about a ton of issues with the phone, because only people with issues are posting about it. The other 90% that dont have issues arent posting.
Anytime a new phone comes out about 10% of them are duds with the same problems you are describing. When the nexus comes out their forum will be full of threads about problems with that phone. Read thru the android forums and no matter what the phone, you will see complaints about the phone. i have been reading them for years.
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I had the phone for about 7 hours three have been fighting loops. My temporary solution is to disable LTE and put my standard size battery in the device ? I don't know why, but I have a hunch that my specific device may be verry sensitive to heat issues.
I called Verizon and they show the boot cycling a known issue and that it was submitted to HTC.
The phone does not seem overly hot to Me so my hunch could be wrong
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Well my first Rez was a dud. It got as hot as 130F at one point! Returned it, now this second one will boot to a certain point then bootlop!! My evo never did this ****!!
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Ok here's what I did. I shut down, removed the 4G sim and rebooted. It fully booted with no cell service of course. I went into the LTE switch and set it to CDMA auto. I shut down, re-inserted sim, booted up and it's working. Not sure if all that was necessary, but that's what I did...
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Ok phone getting better but loops still persist.I am giving up and getting a replacement in the am. BTW. THE tmo vibrant with stock headsets and voodoo sound 10 blows the beats gimmicks away.
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Bootloops = Heat
In my experience, Bootloops are a result of heat. The phone heats up (or the radio heats up), the phone reboots on the thermal warning, but the bootup time is not nearly long enough to cool down a phone that hot, so once the OS (or kernel) loads to the point where it starts checking for thermals, it sees a heat issue, and reboots.
I have this on my DInc which I was hoping to replace with a Rezound because of these bootloops, but of course I am going to have sit and see if this subsides (or what the Nexus people say) because ...
... you are right, you do NOT want a phone for 2 years which bootloops when you use it for 15 minutes. It is hell.
What is causing all the heat on your phone ??
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I asked and called Verizon again. I found someone with a little more info.
it seems that an above average amount of devices where sent out with a corrupted OS.
The corrupt Rom is having issues with its signal acquisition and causing issues.
its heating up from consistently trying to cycle thru signal acquisition etc etc.
I kinda believe they have nailed the issue- as we booted up the device with no back cover on,and bam!- a perfect phone that functions without the reboots ( Obviously no signal),but it works.
I have a replacement coming Tuesday.
Hmmm i think mine has something like that. BUT i dont do it so much.
Had the same issue with mine last night. Removed Sim disabled all network services and replaced Sim and it worked when I enabled networks again. Mine has been set to cdma only also. I think it might be an issue when authenticating with Verizon that somehow crashes the phone.
chkn said:
I asked and called Verizon again. I found someone with a little more info.
it seems that an above average amount of devices where sent out with a corrupted OS.
The corrupt Rom is having issues with its signal acquisition and causing issues.
its heating up from consistently trying to cycle thru signal acquisition etc etc.
I kinda believe they have nailed the issue- as we booted up the device with no back cover on,and bam!- a perfect phone that functions without the reboots ( Obviously no signal),but it works.
I have a replacement coming Tuesday.
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Let's hope that is the problem since I haven't had it and would hate to see it be a hardware problem. That is something that can be fixed with an update. I think phones are getting to thin for their own good. Cases problem don't help either.
For what it is worth, my phone is charging, streaming music, and I'm on the internet with auto brightness on. The temp is reading 100F. When I first got it, I was trying to kill the battery so I streamed Netflix over 4g and it got warm but never rebooted. Hope they figure this out for y'all.
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I got stuck bootlooping related to the fb chat widget. As soon as it would load, sense would restart and after 10-20 the phone started rebooting.
Non stop. I got it to boot with battery cover off (no reception).
Cover on, it would restart as soon as the lock screen was up.
Battery pull, no help.
So I did a battery pull, guessed volume down +power and choose factory reset.
No fb chat widget and no issues so far
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struggling radio = heat = reboot = still hot = reboot ...
Same as I currently have on my incredible.
They may be able to do something in software, but it is really hardware. the radio struggling to get a signal is not a software issue.
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So yesterday I upgraded to ICS. I am running stock phone with no mods done to it.
I am attaching some pictures for you guys to see what the problem is. The battery level starts from when Unplugged the phone to download ICS.
Now I am connected to wifi all day and night because I get no signal in this place. Its a basement appartment. As you can see, I went to bed, and for some reason mobile network signal popped on the entire time while I was sleeping. This has NEVER happened before. Then I got up and took my phone and put it on the charger and as you can see it automatically went right back onto wifi Fine.
My question is what is going on with that? My only conclusion is the cell standby which was on for 5 hours and 4 mins as you can see in the picture.
It also says switch to airplane mode to save power in area with no coverage. Is that what it is doing ?? and how do I take that off??. I cant go the whole night without having service and not getting anything.
Why would my wifi go off?
And incase you ask, no I do not have any juicedefender on my phone
Thanks guys
The phone shuts off the WiFi when data comes on... That part is normal.
However, I have not the slightest clue why your mobile network would just turn on by itself when not being used. The color of your data readings is a different color than I've seen also. Very strange
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I guess I will see what happens tonight. Something is turning off Wifi when the phone goes on standby or when I dont use it for a while I am assuming. Just no idea how that can happen. There are not any settings I can set for it either to stop it. Hope some people on the board have an idea
EDIT: Wait I think I found a solution. What do you guys think?
Maybe this needs to be on always.
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I guess I will see what happens tonight. Something is turning off Wifi when the phone goes on standby or when I dont use it for a while I am assuming. Just no idea how that can happen. There are not any settings I can set for it either to stop it. Hope some people on the board have an idea
EDIT: Wait I think I found a solution. What do you guys think?
Maybe this needs to be on always.
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Yup, you should have the first one selected if you want wifi to stay on while your screen is off.
So I have a rather strange problem.
You all know those interference noises a phone causes while receiving a SMS or a call.
If I'm home the whole day I have no problem with those noises. I only have them occasionally when i get an sms or something like that.
But when I leave the house for uni for example and return later my speakers are constantly humming and it doesn't really stop. It will only stop after I turn on airplane mode and turn it back off.
Also during that time the battery drains rapidly. It's about 10% per hour.
I've had that problem with the stock rom and then went through all Resurrection Remix Versions since 2.1, but the only difference was the volume and the sound of the interference. But it never went away.
Currently I'm on Resurrection Remix 2.4 with Siyah 3.3.2 and Modem Version I9100DXLP9.
I guess I could try all diferent modem versions and look if it fixes the problem. But since I don't really know what I have to do to start it, it's a little tricky to check if it is really fixed. I only know for certain that the problem occurs after returning from uni.
Here's a screenshot of the battery drain of today.
It contains:
1. night
2. leaving the house and listening to beyond pod on my way to uni (first awake period)
3. while in uni checking the time
4. driving back, listening to beyond pod, playing on gbadroid
5. at least you see the gap in the wifi status, that's where i turned on and off the airplane mode
the prblm is radiowaves tht interfere the electronic devices,well i don kno wat settings or any tweaks u on,,,but a good idea is to check if ur cordless phone,oven,tv all r placed at far distance as per electronic rules,an yes sometimes these things happen.its not neccesary tht it takes place for all..during my studies we had this project on y the tv gets mass disturbance during lunch hrs,see the real prblm was the oven ,behind the wall and the phone,very clearly the oven will on,cause its lunch time an ppl usd to make calls cause it was free time too..so check ur devices an post
If you mean that another device is disturbing the speakers, then I can tell you that that is definitely not the case since the interference stops once I turn the phone off.
Also I don't think that any device is interfering with my phone because the problem vanishes after I reboot.
I wrote before that it suffices to turn on airplane mode and turn it back off, but today that also wasn't enough. The disturbance went away, but the battery drain stayed. So I turned the phone off, removed the battery, waited a few secs, put it back in and turned it on again. After that the battery percentage dropped instantly from 19% to 12% but since then it has stayed at 12%.
I made another Screenshot:
I think I have an idea what could be causing the problem. I think it has to do with GSM/UMTS.
Where I live there is hardly any UMTS connection. So I guess, when I leave the house and come into UMTS region my phone switches to that, but after I get home it has problems switching back to GSM and that's what's causing the noise.
It's only a wild guess, but I try to confirm it during the next days. I just switched to UMTS only. That means I have hardly any connection at home, but I'll see wether that helps my problem...
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I think I have an idea what could be causing the problem. I think it has to do with GSM/UMTS.
Where I live there is hardly any UMTS connection. So I guess, when I leave the house and come into UMTS region my phone switches to that, but after I get home it has problems switching back to GSM and that's what's causing the noise.
It's only a wild guess, but I try to confirm it during the next days. I just switched to UMTS only. That means I have hardly any connection at home, but I'll see wether that helps my problem...
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UMTS ought not provide the same sort of interference. I don't know the technical reason anymore, but my understanding is that only 2G induces that kind of interference in other circuitry.
That's why I think maybe it's stuck switching between UMTS and GSM and everytime it switches to GSM it interferes with my speakers and that constant switching is causing the battery drain.
I guess it could have something to do with the fact that there is no reception in my lecture hall at all.
I will have to try to track down wether that constant disturbance and battery drain only happens after the phone hasn't had any reception for a longer period of time or if it is always after I leave the house.
So today I was again in that mentioned lecture hall and after returning home the speakers again wouldn't shut up.
I noticed a little downward arrow in the connection bar. I don't really know what that's doing there since I have wifi active and no data connection.
After a while disturbing the speakers and not getting really good signal it changes to UMTS. The disturbance is gone but so is my connection.
After a reboot the arrow and the disturbance are gone. So I guess there is some data connection that is stuck or something like that?