Hey, so I was messing around with roms, and ive never really DeSensed because I thought that Sense was pretty good. recently ive been playing with some launchers and found Atom which is really good. Now I was wondering, does DeSensing have any other benefits besides just allowing me to use Atom? Like does DeSensing help battery life or anything?
Thanks!
Sense has alot of processes running in the background. Most of them have little impact on system resources or battery. But when you add them all together, they start to be more apparent. If a rom has been properly de-sensed, it can save a considerable amount of resources and battery.
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I came from elegancia custom stock look rom and decided to try it desensed. I have never looked back. I'm running nova prime as a launcher and have many things running in the background and my phone still has a lot of free ram memory and battery life is way better.
You can always look for widgets if you want or like the weather/time widgets from sense.
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I've heard that Sense UI is a huge battery drain compared to something like LauncherPro. Can someone confirm this?
If this is true, what makes Sense such a battery drain?
It might be because the sense UI sync's data quite a bit and that uses battery. Honestly even if you use LauncherPro sense UI will still be there. I have used ADW launcher since i first discovered it on my eris a year ago. When I made the switch from sense UI to adw i didnt notice any difference on the battery. Until we get a rom that completely removes sense UI (most likely CM7) we wont know for sure.
you should switch UI's though. the custom launchers have alot more options and flexibility than sense.
Well I'm using das bamf and there is the remove sense update.. I was thinking about using that but I'm not sure
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This is the biggest drawback to a stock Rezound!! Is this an issue we're addressing? I think we'd all appreciate a definite focus on this when cooking roms devs. Also I'd like to thank you guys for all your hard work and dedication. Its greatly appreciated!
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I'm running cleanrom 1.0 after a few initial sleep of deaths its running smooth and has noticeably better battery life been playing all morning and still at 85%
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Most ROMs don't really affect battery life much (if at all) unless they include a stripped down lean kernel also.
~John
I've gone through and removed a bunch of the unused HTC/Sense related files from /system/apps after switching to ADW EX, my battery life is already noticeably better. I accidentally removed some important HTC Lockscreen related files though, so I'm trying to go back and figure out which files I need to restore...
My free RAM also went from average ~150MB to around ~400MB too, so obviously Sense is a huge drain on resouces and battery life.
I use ADWLauncher EX because I like it, but I've never noticed any change in either performance or battery life.
Android does not need a ton of free RAM (it's completely different than windows mobile) and I don't believe it affects battery life at all.
~John
I've been on internet all day ans extended battery still at 82%
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jmorton10 said:
I use ADWLauncher EX because I like it, but I've never noticed any change in either performance or battery life.
Android does not need a ton of free RAM (it's completely different than windows mobile) and I don't believe it affects battery life at all.
~John
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I think you misunderstood my points.. I wasn't trying to indicate that using ADW EX would improve performance or battery life. Also, I wasn't trying to indicate that more free memory equals more performance. What I meant was that a lot of sense related programs still load even if you're using an alternate launcher, and that these programs apparently consume both memory and CPU time. After i removed them, i noticed both more free memory as well as improved battery consumption.
gotcha
~John
Hi all,
Had my EVO 3D now for two days and it's a great phone, the 3D features are superb (probably a novelty but i'm enjoying them for now)
I've rooted and s-off'd my phone and the bootloader is unlocked.
I've installed a few roms, mostly sense, but pretty much everyone i have tried is quite laggy, not all the time but laggy in parts, now i was under the impression that this was pretty much the same phone (bar a few bits) as the sensation.
The sensation roms that i've had were superb, no lag (or very very little) and they worked perfect for the most part.
Is this because it's not been developed for -for very long? Or is this something which we will have to get used to?
EG: If anyones wondering what i'm on about, spin your carousel around and when it's about to re-align with the last window, it jitters slightly, the sensation on lets say insert coin never did this.
I'm running leedroid at the moment, the roms good it just stutters a bit, i've also tried king cobra, mikrunny, shooterbeats, the only one i've not tried is honeycombo.
Oh and i'm using lees kernel too at 1.5ghz max 400mhz min.
I'm not having a go at the dev's because in my eyes they're a bunch of geniuses whom we could not have our beloved androids without, my hat comes off to all of them, it's just i'm noticing a fair bit of lag through all the roms i've tried.
Any one elses input on this would be good.
Cheers.
I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
greeg32 said:
I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
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Thanks m8, I did get the app, bought it too nice app but i haven't noticed any change in terms of speed or performance and it does have that irritating lag when swiping between some screens.
I know sense isn't perfect but my DHD was smoother than this with sense 3.0 roms.
EDIT: Just checked the setting within system tuner pro (has to be pro, the free one doesn't allow the switching of the cores) , don't set it to boot, set it to init.d script instead, the second core hadn't come on active until i did this, it's probably going to rinse my battery but if it makes it smoother (which it has) then great.
Thanks man.
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So in short.
Buy system tuner pro.
Switch on all cores, via settings - Active tweaks - force all cpu's online - init.d
Go back and select CPU from main page.
Knock up the frequency to whats safe / needed.
Enjoy a smoother rom and a shorter battery life
i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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I will do m8, thanks.
I've been living with the Desire HD and Sensation for some time now and the roms on both of those phones are superb, no lag whatsoever, they just work and i only realised how well when i put the two of them together and swiped the carousel, the sensation was about 10fps better off, very noticable when you compare them, i really hope the dev's get their heads together on this.
Try ledriod mega quick
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geordie 34 said:
Try ledriod mega quick
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Yea i'm using Leedroid at the moment, it is the fastest rom out there for the GSM EVO3D but i think there is still room for improvement.
So it's been roughly a week since the ICS leak hit. What are your impressions?
I didn't think a tweaked GB 2.3.4 rom was too bad, at least not to the point where I constantly pined over ICS. GB was satisfactory to say the least.
ICS has been pretty impressive imo. Battery life has definitely improved and things feel a bit more peppier. Then again it could all be placebo effect. I mainly preferred a sense base rom for the camera and I'm pretty happy i can have the best of both worlds.
Overall if my level of satisfaction with the 2.3.4 roms was a 7/10 i would rate my satisfaction a 9/10 with ICS.
What do you guys think so far?
So far so good, i would rate it 9.5/10.
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
Very stable here.
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I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
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I'm having the same experience.
the only thing i really dislike about ics is the lack of apps optimized for ics (no fault of ics of course)
my reception doesn't feel changed at all.
I guess its because where i am its either 1. very strong or 2. weak to the point where there is no signal.
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
I like ARHD. I'm getting fast data speeds and good reception. The battery life isn't all that great. I already reconditioned it 3 times, and did a battery stats wipe. Unplugged it at 12 am, and checked it at 6am. It was already at 86 percent. If it was my glacier, it would be at 95 or more. I also used better battery stats app, and disabled any rouge apps. Juice defender running disabling all data, and system tuner sets the governor to powersave while the screen is off.
For some reason, I can't get the radio settings to stick. It always goes back to gsm whenever I tried to set it to gsm/wcdma prl or anything else.
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I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
oryan_dunn said:
Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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I split my games into categories (RPG, board, etc). Very useful.
My reception has gotten slightly better, stock ICS with Apex launcher is much smoother than any GB ROM I've tried, and even though I'm not a fan of HTC Sense's overhead, I'm still pretty happy with it
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Is that launcher on the Goggle Market? I may give it a try.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Stock rooted? I thought u would be running speedrom or something
But I do enjoy ics very much. Everything is smoother and more fluid. I LOVE IT!
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1. MUCH improved battery life.
2. Snappier response.
3. 150MB less memory usage on average. I've changed nothing about my usage habits. This probably contributes quite a bit to the snappier performance.
I'm not sure if reception is better, haven't really been paying attention. Overall I'm impressed. I like the return to the icon bar instead of that stupid giant PHONE button with two other useless things on it. I am noticing a little bit of stutter on cpu intensive apps; wonder if that's just tweaking/optimization that will be taken care of in the release.
I think my phone reception is a little bit better with the new radio, but my wifi reception has gone crazy with the new radio. Sometimes I'll have full bars sitting in one spot, and 0 wifi bars a minute later in the same spot. I do like ICS a lot more than GB though.
Perhaps those are some of the issues the T-Mobile team wants HTC to fix before the actual release.
hey guys,
just thought about something today.. searched abit and couldn't find an answer
what are the difference between de-sense rom and cyanogen rom?
i am looking for a faster snappier UI then what the sense offers..
my thoughts currently are between ARHD with desense or an AOKP\cyanogen variants..
thanks
De-sense still runs sense apps and uses more ram.
An aosp based rom, being cyanogenmod, will run with alot less ram with all the aosp features and tweaks without a trace of sense.
Battery life noticeably changes. Sense is hard on the battery.
Does that also mean that playing Games like Chaos rings 2 or dungeon Hunter 4 on cyanogonmod will improve the temperature too?
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Most likely not. The game uses the processor the exact same as it will on any ROM. This means the processor and battery will heat up the same, but the speed and smoothness of the game may increase.
A De-sensed rom is a Stock HTC sense rom. With rosie and many of the sense background processes removed. The aim is to produce a stock rom with all the features for people who use diffrent launchers, and saving some ram, battery and power in the process.
Aosp (Android open source project) is basically vanilla android. It is built from source and has nothing to do with HTC. Asop roms are usually much faster than stock and much smaller. But you can't use many HTC apps as they require the HTC framework.
Cyanogenmod starts life as Asop but quickly becomes a much diffrent beast. It contains many mods and ways to customise your experience, it is just as fast as asop if not faster.
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