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Here I go again with my upgrading issues. I recently upgraded my ROM to PK Black thanks to olipro unlocker, the whole athena project, HeartofDarkness, and ITXDA. THANKS FOR A GREAT ROM and all your help.
My new issue......I need a voice dialer that works. The dialer that was in the shipped ROM of my 7501 was great. Is there a place that I can get thdialer in CAB to re-install to my device? I am currently using VOICE_Tri. It does work but only when the phone is actively on/unlocked. So if my phone is in my pocket and or locked, I cannot dial. The original dialer worked when my phone was locked or not near me. I really want this back. Can anyone suggest a dialer that works that I don't have to buy? Can I strip it from the HTC ROM?
Thanks in advance.
http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/voicedialer.html
Try this! You might have to purchase this one though!
You're welcome, really.
Do you remember what you used prior to upgrading ?
Heavyweights are:
- Microsoft Voice Command (doesn't need training);
- Cyberon Voice Dial (requires tagging).
Both are commercial products, but since you rightfully own a device that was provided with either, there shouldn't be much problems if you did bit of searching on the forum or googling and found workable archives...
HeartOfDarkness said:
You're welcome, really.
Do you remember what you used prior to upgrading ?
Heavyweights are:
- Microsoft Voice Command (doesn't need training);
- Cyberon Voice Dial (requires tagging).
Both are commercial products, but since you rightfully own a device that was provided with either, there shouldn't be much problems if you did bit of searching on the forum or googling and found workable archives...
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The voice dialer I was using previously was included in the shipped firmware on my 7501. I have no idea who made it or if it was simply part of the ROM. I did try the one offered on mahmood's site and it seems to be working well enough for now. I will use this latest one until I find another. I did have Microsoft's version when I had other devices but I often had trouble using it with a BT device. There was one that I read about that announces your incoming calls and other little neat things, but with all my reading, I forgot its name. So, long story short, I am ok for now, but still always on the prowl for biger, better, faster, smarter, easier etc.
So keep me in mind if something surfaces that is a dowlaoad (pref. free) that I can try.
BTW, do you know how to get PocketCM off of my device?
Kenjari said:
http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/voicedialer.html
Try this! You might have to purchase this one though!
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Looks like it would one to try, but do you know if it is unistallable once it's on. I still trying to get Pocket CM out of my device.
you might have to use a registry delete on that one. some how it installed in your registry...thats why you cant easily remove it. try resco registry. you should be able get in and delete it with that software.
BTW...that link to that Voice dialer...yes it removes once you go into settings and Remove Programs. I dont think however, that it gives you the option to save your settings. But who cares.... Good Luck buddy!
Kenjari said:
you might have to use a registry delete on that one. some how it installed in your registry...thats why you cant easily remove it. try resco registry. you should be able get in and delete it with that software.
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I have never used a registry editor. How does it work? What do I do?
Anyone "in the know" on what is going on with Microsoft Voice Command?
For those not up to date heres the brief bio:
Microsoft released a rocking WM program that offers true voice recognition on pocketPCs and smartphones. If it didn't come with your carrier's build, it's a $40 upgrade, and well worth it. The latest version is 1.6. Unfortunately, it's been fraught with little issues, mostly related to Bluetooth headset compatibility, but most people still find it indispensable in spite of these challenges. I'm one of those people. The dial by number, and recognition of any name in the address book is invaluable to me, and a "must have" app for my 6800, no matter how badly it works.
The program is at version 1.6, and hasn't been updated in 2 years now.
What's the skinny?
jtg
I agree. I have had the same problems and have searched the net for any info about an update. Like you, I have not been able to find anything about a projected release of a new version. I guess that is just the microsoft way...only 2 years..
I heard a rumor that it was goint to be built into the next version of Windows mobile, but I hope that's not true.
If that happens, hoppefully it will be DCD to the rescue with a port for use all!!!
The real deal:
Ok, to those who haven't been following:
Microsoft DID update the VC software, but it was never released. It seems the Windows Mobile version went to the back burner since they made a deal with Ford Motors to start including the VC technology in the new Ford in-dash stereo systems (que up your mp3's, make calls via your bt phone, etc).
However, there was a test rom floating around for another WM device that had a greatly improved new VC version, which fixed 99% of the problems everyone was having.
This version was extracted and made available as an OEM to load into a kitchen to build into your ROMs.
There is NO .cab installation that I've seen for this version, so you're stuck with either cooking it in, or just replacing the files (there's a zip floating around here somewhere of the files u need to replace to make it the new version, but I don't recall where I saw it).
The OEM can be found in the excellent new PPCGeeks kitchen (ppckitchen.org), which incidentally supported Titan roms now.
For you DCD fans, it seems he hasn't made his rom compatible with the new kitchen GUI, but its relatively simple to make it a basekit. If enough of you push dcd, he might consider doing it... otherwise, you can always copy the OEM directory into DCD's kitchen OEMs.
Try Dutty's Voice Commander
This works for me, it is the best of both versions I have seen of the voice software. There are a couple versions out there, this is the most recent I have found. It is a cab.
I've got VC almost completely working. I cooked it into the DCD ROM. One reg key needs to be changed to get the button on your headset to work. The part I don't have working is the prompt and confirmation comming to the headset. The prompt and confirmation come out of the phone. It takes commands fine through the headset, just no audio until the call is started. Anyone know how to fix that? I'm using a Jawbone.
Dishe said:
Ok, to those who haven't been following:
Microsoft DID update the VC software, but it was never released. It seems the Windows Mobile version went to the back burner since they made a deal with Ford Motors to start including the VC technology in the new Ford in-dash stereo systems (que up your mp3's, make calls via your bt phone, etc).
However, there was a test rom floating around for another WM device that had a greatly improved new VC version, which fixed 99% of the problems everyone was having.
This version was extracted and made available as an OEM to load into a kitchen to build into your ROMs.
There is NO .cab installation that I've seen for this version, so you're stuck with either cooking it in, or just replacing the files (there's a zip floating around here somewhere of the files u need to replace to make it the new version, but I don't recall where I saw it).
The OEM can be found in the excellent new PPCGeeks kitchen (ppckitchen.org), which incidentally supported Titan roms now.
For you DCD fans, it seems he hasn't made his rom compatible with the new kitchen GUI, but its relatively simple to make it a basekit. If enough of you push dcd, he might consider doing it... otherwise, you can always copy the OEM directory into DCD's kitchen OEMs.
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i prefer the functionality of dcd's kitchen over ppcgeeks.... except for the splash screen thing... but it's all opinion
serfboreds said:
This works for me, it is the best of both versions I have seen of the voice software. There are a couple versions out there, this is the most recent I have found. It is a cab.
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Does this version require you to set tags for contacts?
Thanks
roninld said:
Does this version require you to set tags for contacts?
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No, it doesn't require you to set tags, but provides that as an option. The tags are useful for frequently called numbers as they should reduce errors somewhat.
This version also works properly through my bluetooth headset including confirmations.
-dwdoc
ok, here is what I did to get it working with DCD:
1. Take the voice command folders from ppckitchen and put them in the OEM folder. There are two folders for the newest version
2. Cook your rom
3. Change the button assignment to VC if you want (settings -> buttons)
4. HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand change "path" to "\windows\voicecmd.exe"
5. HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway change "BTAGExtModule" to "vcbthag.dll"
Hope that helps you guys!
P.S. On the handset the initial voice prompt beep doesn't work.(the first time you press the button)NOT USING HEADSET
When you dial by the headset the little dial tones come out the handset.
This also lets the phone send ring tones to your headset when it is ringing.
Dishe--thanks for the tip, I googled and found a cab--I have voice command 1.6.17913, and it is a significant improvement over the one I purchased. I can now use my BT headset like I did with my old 6700!! Can anyone confirm this is the most recent build?
jtg
1.9.19209 is available as an OEM in the PPCGeeks Kitchen, but I don't know if there is a CAB of it anywhere.
JimSmith94 said:
1.9.19209 is available as an OEM in the PPCGeeks Kitchen, but I don't know if there is a CAB of it anywhere.
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I just went through the Kitchen process described above and I get a version number of 1.6.19209. Perhaps just a typo?
whbell said:
I just went through the Kitchen process described above and I get a version number of 1.6.19209. Perhaps just a typo?
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The Tip in option.xml for this version says, "Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser". No2Chem shows as the author, so maybe he will chime in.
JimSmith94 said:
The Tip in option.xml for this version says, "Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser". No2Chem shows as the author, so maybe he will chime in.
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This is what I see also.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16" standalone="yes"?>
<Items>
<Item name="Microsoft Voice Command" group="Voice Control" checked="True">
<Tip>Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser</Tip>
<Guid type="p">410788f1-acd5-457b-b9ea-df86ac7f990e</Guid>
<OEMDate>3/30/2008</OEMDate>
<AppVersion>1.6.19209</AppVersion>
<AppAuthorURL>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/</AppAuthorURL>
<ButtonType>GroupRadioNone</ButtonType>
<OEMAuthor>No2Chem</OEMAuthor>
<Require>93f31b6d-078b-4dae-a335-8ea8c3b22c97</Require>
</Item>
</Items>
I believe it was just a typo and he meant a newer build of 1.6. I have the 1.6.19209 installed from the kitchen and can not seem to get voice dialing to work when I dial by name though. It recognizes the command and will ask me if I want to dial work, home, cell, etc. However, when I confirm it never actually dials. It will work fine if I tell it to just dial a number though. Anyone else experiencing this and know of a fix?
djlenoir said:
I believe it was just a typo and he meant a newer build of 1.6. I have the 1.6.19209 installed from the kitchen and can not seem to get voice dialing to work when I dial by name though. It recognizes the command and will ask me if I want to dial work, home, cell, etc. However, when I confirm it never actually dials. It will work fine if I tell it to just dial a number though. Anyone else experiencing this and know of a fix?
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There are 3 olders in the PPCKitchen. Voice Command 1.6 (which is the 1.6.17 version), VoiceCommand (version 1.6.19), and VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 (supports files for 1.6.19). I threw the VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 into the SYS folder in DCD kitchen, and VoiceCommand into the OEM. Cooked with no problems.
Have no issues with VC not dialing a contact.
roninld said:
There are 3 olders in the PPCKitchen. Voice Command 1.6 (which is the 1.6.17 version), VoiceCommand (version 1.6.19), and VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 (supports files for 1.6.19). I threw the VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 into the SYS folder in DCD kitchen, and VoiceCommand into the OEM. Cooked with no problems.
Have no issues with VC not dialing a contact.
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Sorry, which kitchen? I can't find those files...
88fingerslukee said:
Sorry, which kitchen? I can't find those files...
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After you install the ppcgeeks buildos and update, there is a kitchens folder. In there, PPCGeeks_OEM.rar has these folders.
Hi all,
I've seen several questions without too many answers regards native sip use on the s2.
I've just purchased my s2 today and am totally lost with where to start to get native sip working.
I have had nokias for years and sip has been very easy and good.
I am not familiar with what appears needs for ROM apps prior to use of the native sip.
Could someone PLEASE outline the most up to date method of using native sip from a new phone perspective.
thanks
Hello,
Using the native sip client is pretty simple and, IMO, similar to what I have on my Nokia Phone. Here is what I did :
- configure SIP account
- chose option to chose between SIP or gsm on each call.
- call contact and when asked about SIP or gsm, choose SIP.
But there is an issue with native SIP calls using wrong microphone, see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109962
pierro78 said:
Hello,
Using the native sip client is pretty simple and, IMO, similar to what I have on my Nokia Phone. Here is what I did :
- configure SIP account
- chose option to chose between SIP or gsm on each call.
- call contact and when asked about SIP or gsm, choose SIP.
But there is an issue with native SIP calls using wrong microphone, see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109962
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Hi and thank you for getting back.
I have read on this and other forums that Samsung galaxy s2 has intentlly left out the SIP option access on the phone.
I presume you have another phone type?
Apparently the gingerbread system has what you outline, but I've not got this option on my Samsung Galaxy 2s?
@gearo : I am using the Cognition ROM, which unlocks the SIP native client on my S2 (and also gives it a much better battery life ...)
Thank you very much for getting back as this looks like a "one fix" that I was looking for.
Cognition ROM?
I've read a bit about these ROM's.
Can't find summaries of what ones do what etc and the pro's n con's of each.
Is there such a thing?
If Cognition ROM fits my required bill given that apart from not having a native voip,( I thought I'd be happy to "play" with the stock phone), where am i able to get simple instruction on flashing the phone with the Cognition rom.?
Hi Gearo,
Sorry I don't know if there's like a "comparation table" for all the different GS II roms.
To install the Cognition ROM you first have to install the CWM tool. I did it by installing the ChainFire (CF-Root) kernel. Here is an easy guide to install CF-Root : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126522 .
Then just put the Cognition zipped ROM on your phone and reboot in CWM mode.
About your PM question : sorry again, I haven't heard any news about a fix for the receiving end volume ... imo this makes calling with the native android sip client pretty useless ... you'd better be using csipsimple as they recommand in the SIP thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109962
Same problem for me:
The steps seems clear to have native voip SIP client io ICS but.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592890
but is there any cooked rom?
Thanks!
native voip
I'm now using "paranoidandroid" (acka old D4) ROM.
Has native voip installed and does work !
I've done side by side comparisons with Csipsimple and the latter is by far better call quality including reception, echo, volume and clarity.... even on the standard csip settings.
I've gone looking for how to change codecs with the native installer but no luck... then again, csip simple still better with the standard codecs , even discounting G729 etc.
be pleased if anyone can get native working well as the csipsimple is STILL NOT AS GOOD AS MY OLD Nokia. humph !
I'm using resurection and the problem for me was that I didn't find the new configuration window place. Now is not in the regular call option insted is in the call menu (just the menu used press the numbers for the regular calls),... properties and then, the option to send and recevie voip calls. Native client have better quality for me but more battery consumtion to receive calls than CSIPsimple
settings
thctase said:
I'm using resurection and the problem for me was that I didn't find the new configuration window place. Now is not in the regular call option insted is in the call menu (just the menu used press the numbers for the regular calls),... properties and then, the option to send and recevie voip calls. Native client have better quality for me but more battery consumtion to receive calls than CSIPsimple
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Did you find any fine tune settings such as codec setup etc as well as the obvious account settings?
What is a good free SIP provider to use with the native option ?
How can I get native SIP with CM9.1?
Hi.
I have a major issue woth SGS2.
I have to make calls from a earphone and a motorcycle helmet, also with no internet connection avaible.
So I bought Cyberon Voice Commander (Italian versione).
It works very well, but when i press the button on the earphone, it starts the stock samsung voice recognition software, whic requires internet connection and doesn't work very well.
I can't associate eraphone button with cyberon.
I have contacted Cyberon, the answered:
"Here I'm sorry to inform you that we found on Samsung Galaxy S II, the Bluetooth handsfree profile (for voice dialing) was not implemented as Android's standard definition. Thus when user presses the BT button, only built-in voice recognition app will be launched automatically. We're really sorry for the inconvenience. Before Samsung fix this issue (if they will), if you'd like a refund please send us your order number. Thanks for your understanding in advance!"
Is there a way to remove samsung stock voice recognition software and associate cyberon with earphone and possibly also with home double click?
I am very unhappy by now!
Thanks!
FIXED!
I have found a fix!!
* Root your device
* Set google as default voice recognition instead of vlingo in settings>voice recognition (not sure this is important to do)
* Install Titanium backup (i Have paid full version, but probably you can use free
* Disable "comandi vocali" (Italy) which in english should be like "voice commands"
* Than I have cancelled the BR pairing, restarted the phone and paired BT again...
* Set Cyberon to use long press bt button to start
IT WORKS!!
What about same fix but without root?
I also need fix to disable standard Voice Talk and use Cyberon Voice Speed Dial.
It was worked fine before KE7 firmware was released
I believe it's hard
I think it's hard disabling built-in voice commands without rooting.
Also the "tasker" metod I used before needs the kill process with rooting rights option to kill voice command process and run cyberon.
Cyanogenmod for samsung galaxy s2 is quite ready and it will not have samsung apps anymore, but I guess you won't install it since you won't routing.
My personal consideration is that with every kind of device you can't expect it to do everything you whish unless you work "hard" on it.
I have choosen an open platform like android because is very simple to root and you can always chose an alternative rom to make the phone exactly as you whish.
I understand that sometimes custom rom could helps you. But I really like factory rom on SGS2, no freezes, very fast. I really see no reason to flash home cooked rom's and after that scream on each forum , that something doesn't work
Anyway, with prev. firmware everything was okay, but not with new one. And I really hope that this can be fixed without rooting.
Yes. I think you're right. I'll switch to a custom rom only when it will be really stable and fast.. I have messed up with custom rom for years on WM, now I want a little relax!
But rooting is not a custom rom.. my rom is the latest leaked from samsung (android 2.3.4), than I rooted and disabled build in voice recognition to enable Cyberon. The rom is still the original. Also now I can make full backups of the entire rom in case of corruptiom, failure or something other. Anyway noone is forced to think rooting is better. I hope Samsung will fix voice command incompatibility for anyone!
lwizard said:
Yes. I think you're right. I'll switch to a custom rom only when it will be really stable and fast.. I have messed up with custom rom for years on WM, now I want a little relax!
But rooting is not a custom rom.. my rom is the latest leaked from samsung (android 2.3.4), than I rooted and disabled build in voice recognition to enable Cyberon. The rom is still the original. Also now I can make full backups of the entire rom in case of corruptiom, failure or something other. Anyway noone is forced to think rooting is better. I hope Samsung will fix voice command incompatibility for anyone!
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So as I can see there is no fix yet available even with latest leaked firmware?> That sad!
Latest leaked
Well. I can't assure you latest firmware doesn't fix it.
I think it doesn't fix, but I used the modified version of the firmware that doesn't require formatting, so build in voice recognition was already disabled.
Someone should try e clean install of latest firmware 2.3.4 and than install cyberon to see what happen..
For now I'm happy this way.
Hi, sorry if stupid question... how can i get voice commands to work on this rom?
the vsuite.apk not part of any of the addons, i got voice search from market and it works, to search and for voice input on the keyboard to compose texts and emails,
but i need "voice commands" app so that i can use my bluetooth. On stock, red pill, aura and darkside it was there, one press of bluetooth, say phone command, blue ant bluetooth said activating your phone's inbuilt voice commands, then you coud do numerous things ie call bob, play "playlist" etc. i found the vsuite.apk in numerous other roms i have on pc, extracted, copied to /system/app &/or /data/app and set permissions but it always fc's. i've been able to do this "porting" from another rom before for simple things like alarm clock, but can't get to work. Maybe something to do with deodexed vs non ROMs, files incompatible for each other. i love Neutrino, but hands free dialing in car from bluetooth is an absolute necessity, so could be a deal breaker.
Any help greatly appreciated!!
Have you tried the "Languages & TTS Add-On"?
morvyman said:
Hi, sorry if stupid question... how can i get voice commands to work on this rom?
the vsuite.apk not part of any of the addons, i got voice search from market and it works, to search and for voice input on the keyboard to compose texts and emails,
but i need "voice commands" app so that i can use my bluetooth. On stock, red pill, aura and darkside it was there, one press of bluetooth, say phone command, blue ant bluetooth said activating your phone's inbuilt voice commands, then you coud do numerous things ie call bob, play "playlist" etc. i found the vsuite.apk in numerous other roms i have on pc, extracted, copied to /system/app &/or /data/app and set permissions but it always fc's. i've been able to do this "porting" from another rom before for simple things like alarm clock, but can't get to work. Maybe something to do with deodexed vs non ROMs, files incompatible for each other. i love Neutrino, but hands free dialing in car from bluetooth is an absolute necessity, so could be a deal breaker.
Any help greatly appreciated!!
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Yes, thanks, I did install that, no difference.
I "know" [and I use the term loosely ] that the file I need is vsuite.apk,
b/c when I install it on my phone, the icon is right, it's the voice commands
icon from stock rom. It can be run manually by pressing icon in app drawer or activated
from bluetooth, it's the same, and a female voice asks you to say a command.
Disregard...
morvyman said:
Yes, thanks, I did install that, no difference.
I "know" [and I use the term loosely ] that the file I need is vsuite.apk,
b/c when I install it on my phone, the icon is right, it's the voice commands
icon from stock rom. It can be run manually by pressing icon in app drawer or activated
from bluetooth, it's the same, and a female voice asks you to say a command.
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morvyman said:
Hi, sorry if stupid question... how can i get voice commands to work on this rom?
the vsuite.apk not part of any of the addons, i got voice search from market and it works, to search and for voice input on the keyboard to compose texts and emails,
but i need "voice commands" app so that i can use my bluetooth. On stock, red pill, aura and darkside it was there, one press of bluetooth, say phone command, blue ant bluetooth said activating your phone's inbuilt voice commands, then you coud do numerous things ie call bob, play "playlist" etc. i found the vsuite.apk in numerous other roms i have on pc, extracted, copied to /system/app &/or /data/app and set permissions but it always fc's. i've been able to do this "porting" from another rom before for simple things like alarm clock, but can't get to work. Maybe something to do with deodexed vs non ROMs, files incompatible for each other. i love Neutrino, but hands free dialing in car from bluetooth is an absolute necessity, so could be a deal breaker.
Any help greatly appreciated!!
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Not a stupid question. I think this is a an important "ROM Basic Requirement" for the drivers who can avoid texting while driving.
Anyway, I have found a "workaround" for the original voice command. It is the
Cyberin Voice Commander which works as a "replacement" of the original voice command from the other manufacturer.
It is working well here and it is worth paying it in the Android Market.
I have downloaded the portuguese (BR) version, but you can easily find your language over there.
Hope this helps.
Link in the android market...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cyberon.cvc.PTB&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jeWJlcm9uLmN2Yy5QVEIiXQ..
Have to go to work, will try Cyberin asap. Thanks for the tip!!
warevolo said:
Not a stupid question. I think this is a an important "ROM Basic Requirement" for the drivers who can avoid texting while driving.
Anyway, I have found a "workaround" for the original voice command. It is the
Cyberin Voice Commander which works as a "replacement" of the original voice command from the other manufacturer.
It is working well here and it is worth paying it in the Android Market.
I have downloaded the portuguese (BR) version, but you can easily find your language over there.
Hope this helps.
Link in the android market...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cyberon.cvc.PTB&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jeWJlcm9uLmN2Yy5QVEIiXQ..
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Thanks again warevolo! It's working! Can't seem to regulate its volume independently, Bluetooth headset volume at minimum and cyberon voice still very loud, and voice recognition accuracy not as good, but it does work... beggars can't be choosers Cheers