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What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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bballer71418 said:
What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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well you could start by putting sense 3.0 on your OG evo and running it for a while and then turn on your BMF EVO 3D and you'll see the difference.
It runs separate apps on each core, soif you do a benchmark the scores won't show up that well, but does use both do you have osmonitor it should show both cores.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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radiohead_freak said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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htc built the 3d for the near future! icecream sammy is for dual!
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Zoidpilot said:
Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.
Could app force closing be due to the dual cores? Not all but a few apps can't play on my 3VO but could on my og EVO.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.
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Both cores ARE operating....otherwise it would run like an overclocked Evo.
And I seriously doubt Ice Cream Sandwich will be a step down in version number from Honeycomb. Some have suggested it will be 4.0, which seems likely, but definitely NOT '2.4'
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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The Motorola Atrix is dual core with Froyo. A Gingerbread leak recently posted as well.
Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.
radiohead_freak said:
Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.
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I'll check later, but I'm near positive the Atrix Froyo kernel supports dual cores.
EDIT: Nope, you are right, I am dumb
Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
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ktrotter11 said:
Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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Agreed. Although I'm sure one core complements the other... I think the full power is yet to be unleashed. With Android, everything seems to start small... Then hidden potential is unleashed later... i.e. root.
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I agree that when the ICS update comes, it will probably take full advantage of the hardware, but its not like the dual core processor is useless right now. HTC wouldn't have put it in their devices to be released already if the damn things only ran on a single core. They would've been better off releasing this phone with a 2+gHz single core processor if that was the case. Anybody that has played with the EVO, had it rooted, overclocked, etc. can tell you that this phone is way faster than the EVO ever was at its maximum potential. That would not be true if the 3D only ran on one core.
The dual core processing works. This is not an OS feature, but a kernel feature. Dual core functionality was first introduced in honeycomb, because honeycomb marked the move from kernel 2.6.32 up to 2.6.36.
Multicore functionality was added to the linux kernel 2.6.35, which coincidently, our Evo3D is running. So yes, our phones currently are utilizing the multi-core processor.
Its simple think about it in terms of windows xp with a quad core... you didnt see any change in the proformance of windows xp going from a dual core to a quad core actually most of the time you saw a marked improvement from overclocking the dual vs the quad. This holds true here as well the "core" of the operating system can utilize the dual core but the actual software doesnt have any intelligence.. that means that it cant tell one program to go to this core not this core it kinda just bounces is around like crazy.. so fast forward to Windows 7 and all the sudden those quad core systems are crazy fast.. this is becuase windows can now tell programs hey this processor isnt doing anything so run on this one. this is what ice cream will do for us you will see a huge increase in multithreaded apps and being able to run multiple things at once which is already nice as it is on this phone i run pandora and text people and have no slow down which on my old phone was a joke. so just give it time this phone will continue to get fast over time this i knowo from being a hardware tech for desktops
Is this close enough to the prime roms and stuff will work. Or is it going to get its on Sub Forum at some point?
I would also like to know the same. Gotta ditch the stock bs.
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Ditto. One of my concerns for getting this tablet was if there would be developer support. I imagine though, that porting things from the prime shouldn't be too hard, although I also know how much work it could be + the processor is technically different. I can't wait either way!!!!
asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
I guess what I'm looking for is root + custom kernels. This is my first tablet and first asus product so I'm no expert in this field haha.
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asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
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custom roms are usually always better because they bring features and tweaks not found in stock experience. alot of times they can also be more stable than stock. just go to developement section and look at some of the roms feature lists. it can completely change and improve your experience with the device.
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asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
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Just look at the changelog from AOKP
JakedGr8 said:
Ditto. One of my concerns for getting this tablet was if there would be developer support. I imagine though, that porting things from the prime shouldn't be too hard, although I also know how much work it could be + the processor is technically different. I can't wait either way!!!!
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Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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Just look at the changelog from AOKP
Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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the prime is T30 tegra3 & the 300 is T30L version. the prime version is clocked higher/more powerful.
later model primes have T30.. The first model primes has the AP30H tegra 3 in it. it does get confusing...lol
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the prime is T30 tegra3 & the 300 is T30L version. the prime version is clocked higher/more powerful.
later model primes have T30.. The first model primes has the AP30H tegra 3 in it. it does get confusing...lol
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Thx for the heads up.
Now to the root question.
Bump...root would be excellent!
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The thing is if it's too different a need or own sub forum. what kernal does it come with?
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Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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I read somewhere that its a different version of the tegra 3 processor. Not major, but like a different model. I don't have a source atm though. So until then take with a grain of salt.
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Just need aokp and custom kernel and I'm good...
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Admiral2145 said:
Just need aokp and custom kernel and I'm good...
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Amen to that.
I am literally sitting spamming F5 looking for this info
I'd be content for at least a little while if I could just get mine rooted.
I would love Root as well. Considering that the 300 hasn't even been out a week officially (got mine yesterday), I think we'll see some good news in due time.
Im looking for a good tablet, but i dont know who i should pick.
I want it to have good specs and run ICS.
Would also be good if it has a good developer community, easily rootable and may roms and mods to back it up.
Sorry if my english is bad
Thanks in advance!
-olawp
Google nexus tablet coming out in a month or two... is a good option if youre willing to wait.
motorola xoom has everything your looking for!
Acer Iconia =)
I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1. I´m deeply contended.
The only thing that sucks is the update policy of samsung. I´m waiting for the update to 4.0 for month.
So, if you chose a Samsung tab, take the newer generation wich has 4.0 as stock.
Galaxy Tab
I have a Galaxy Tab 8,9 and love it!
It will get ICS soon.
I think this is the best platform to develop because the screen has a middle size for a tablet (>7" and <10"), so you can have a good idea of how your apps will be rendered on various screen sizes.
I would wait and see what Google has in store for the upcoming Nexus tablet.
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olawp said:
Im looking for a good tablet, but i dont know who i should pick.
I want it to have good specs and run ICS.
Would also be good if it has a good developer community, easily rootable and may roms and mods to back it up.
Sorry if my english is bad
Thanks in advance!
-olawp
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There isn't one right now. In my opinion, ASUS makes the best but I've yet to see an Android tablet that doesn't have lag. I'm not an Apple fan but I can clearly see that iPad leads the way in the tablet market. I love Android, but there has yet to be a tablet produced that matches the iPad as far as performance/usability goes.
Having said that, I'm super excited for the Nexus tab. If it is everything it's being cracked up to be, it'll be the first Android tablet worth buying.
BTW...I have a Xoom, Transformer TF101, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, and 2 Kindle Fire's...I'm not just blowing off steam here.
olawp said:
Im looking for a good tablet, but i dont know who i should pick.
I want it to have good specs and run ICS.
Would also be good if it has a good developer community, easily rootable and may roms and mods to back it up.
Sorry if my english is bad
Thanks in advance!
-olawp
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How good for you to consider as "good"? dual-core or quad-core?
Also, do you care whether it's 7" or 10"?
Minimum dual core , i dident even know they made quad core tablets
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+1 for Acer Iconia! Best Tab for me at the moment but i wait for Google Nexus Tab!
olawp said:
Minimum dual core , i dident even know they made quad core tablets
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Acer Iconia a110. 7 inch quad core n 200$. cheap and best
http://www.fun47.com/acer-reveals-iconia-tab-a110-its-200-7-inch-quad-core-tablet/
or wait for d NEXUS TABLET
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olawp said:
Minimum dual core , i dident even know they made quad core tablets
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For 7", Google Nexus (made by Asus) and Acer A110 are supposed to be real good. I would pick the Nexus.
For 10", we will have Toshiba (geez, I forgot the model# ), the Asus Pad, the Sammy Galaxy Tab 2.
galaxy tab 10.1
or acer iconia tab
tested both and theyre really awesome
I love the Galaxy Tab 2. It just depends on what you want to do with it.
olawp said:
Im looking for a good tablet, but i dont know who i should pick.
I want it to have good specs and run ICS.
Would also be good if it has a good developer community, easily rootable and may roms and mods to back it up.
Sorry if my english is bad
Thanks in advance!
-olawp
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Hy Man Wait till The New Nexus Tablets come out It'll be Cheap With Good Specs
U can chk my thread to know abt the Sony Nexus Tablet http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712105
I'd wait for the Nexus or to get a tablet that has reliable custom ICS rom. Just to avoid having to wait on a vendor to provide you with updates.
Acer iconia a series. I have the a500. Many roms to chose from. Flexreaper rocks.
Howevere if your willing to wait the google nexus (asus nexus) is soon to be released and it promises to be a very affordable powerhouse.
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Hello everyone,
i dont want to spam but as you can see in the following video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6bY2pbAZh8&feature=relmfu
an armv6 device like our ace is running wp7.
so is it possibly to port that.:highfive:
Wow!
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Is it really Blade, because when googling Blade, phone looks so much different than in video?
even xbox live wow
"chinese"
ArtieB said:
Is it really Blade, because when googling Blade, phone looks so much different than in video?
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No it isn't, its ZTE Skate Acqua but it's still an Android smartphone
However it's a ARMv7 phone with a Qualcomm MSM7227A chipset
These phones have the same hardware so they probably used roms from them
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_610-4576.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_610_nfc-4695.php
Sad
But is wp7 compatible with armv 6 pros
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Sad
But is wp7 compatible with armv 6 pros
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Technically it should be because all Windows OS'es come with a big pack of drivers so does WP and the binaries seem to be compiled for ARM generic.
And the WP emulator runs on ARMv6 :victory:
However currently porting it is dangerous as Microsoft sues people doing it, perhaps when Microsoft releases WP8 if they will no longer care about WP7 then only it can be ported
but working audio and other sensors is still next to impossible as not everything is identical between those devices.. still good to see some kind of hacking
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but working audio and other sensors is still next to impossible as not everything is identical between those devices.. still good to see some kind of hacking
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Actually if i remember correctly Microsoft provides Development kits to manufacturers and Developer phone owners which include all supported chipset drivers, so someone might have gotten his/hers hands on them
So all in all a port should be possible.
But to be honest we shouldnt expect this or
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That's definitely not a Blade.
Think that's just a hardware swap. It's impossible to port WP7 to a 600MHz armv6 device (WP7 requires a 1GHz armv7 Snapdragon chip).
WP7 also needs a DirectX9 rendering-capable GPU, which the Blade does not have.
Lol nokia 610 has adreno200 only... And read comments which shows the model number
What do you guys think?
It seems we will receive 4.2 early next year, but what about 5.0? It probably will be out in summer, so its near the end of the 18 month update plan.
Guesses?
i don't think . they will probably say they are " working on it " than cancel it and say it wont release it because it doesn't have enough ram .
^ 5.0 will probably add a bunch of new features but I'll bet the main aim for El Goog will be to optimise it so it runs on more devices. The biggest con on Android from other smartphone users is "fragmentation" I reckon Google will do their best to sort this.
Yes
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It'll probably be on the SGS IV then.
Lets watch how 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.2 goes, 5 shall probably follow the same rollout schedule.
As for telco's rolling it out, expect the same slowness 3month+ delay for bloatware, testing, reports, approval etc. Probably a 2014 release unless it comes pre installed or DIY if you want it early
Think ill just go for the SGS IV
I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
Maybe, in year 2046..
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Holywolf said:
I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
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samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
Squall-Leonhart said:
samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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Theshawty said:
Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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True enough.
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
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Best by your
preferences. Best by my preferences is a well documented one like those of Qualcomm.
victorator said:
Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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