What do you guys think?
It seems we will receive 4.2 early next year, but what about 5.0? It probably will be out in summer, so its near the end of the 18 month update plan.
Guesses?
i don't think . they will probably say they are " working on it " than cancel it and say it wont release it because it doesn't have enough ram .
^ 5.0 will probably add a bunch of new features but I'll bet the main aim for El Goog will be to optimise it so it runs on more devices. The biggest con on Android from other smartphone users is "fragmentation" I reckon Google will do their best to sort this.
Yes
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It'll probably be on the SGS IV then.
Lets watch how 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.2 goes, 5 shall probably follow the same rollout schedule.
As for telco's rolling it out, expect the same slowness 3month+ delay for bloatware, testing, reports, approval etc. Probably a 2014 release unless it comes pre installed or DIY if you want it early
Think ill just go for the SGS IV
I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
Maybe, in year 2046..
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I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
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samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
Squall-Leonhart said:
samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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True enough.
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
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Best by your
preferences. Best by my preferences is a well documented one like those of Qualcomm.
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Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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Is this close enough to the prime roms and stuff will work. Or is it going to get its on Sub Forum at some point?
I would also like to know the same. Gotta ditch the stock bs.
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Ditto. One of my concerns for getting this tablet was if there would be developer support. I imagine though, that porting things from the prime shouldn't be too hard, although I also know how much work it could be + the processor is technically different. I can't wait either way!!!!
asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
I guess what I'm looking for is root + custom kernels. This is my first tablet and first asus product so I'm no expert in this field haha.
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asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
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custom roms are usually always better because they bring features and tweaks not found in stock experience. alot of times they can also be more stable than stock. just go to developement section and look at some of the roms feature lists. it can completely change and improve your experience with the device.
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asus does a good job with their upgrades. what advantages do you all see with custom rom's on a device with such good support?
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Just look at the changelog from AOKP
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Ditto. One of my concerns for getting this tablet was if there would be developer support. I imagine though, that porting things from the prime shouldn't be too hard, although I also know how much work it could be + the processor is technically different. I can't wait either way!!!!
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Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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Just look at the changelog from AOKP
Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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the prime is T30 tegra3 & the 300 is T30L version. the prime version is clocked higher/more powerful.
later model primes have T30.. The first model primes has the AP30H tegra 3 in it. it does get confusing...lol
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the prime is T30 tegra3 & the 300 is T30L version. the prime version is clocked higher/more powerful.
later model primes have T30.. The first model primes has the AP30H tegra 3 in it. it does get confusing...lol
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Thx for the heads up.
Now to the root question.
Bump...root would be excellent!
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The thing is if it's too different a need or own sub forum. what kernal does it come with?
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Whats different about it? I know they are both tegra 3 and i believe both are cortex A9.
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I read somewhere that its a different version of the tegra 3 processor. Not major, but like a different model. I don't have a source atm though. So until then take with a grain of salt.
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Just need aokp and custom kernel and I'm good...
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Just need aokp and custom kernel and I'm good...
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Amen to that.
I am literally sitting spamming F5 looking for this info
I'd be content for at least a little while if I could just get mine rooted.
I would love Root as well. Considering that the 300 hasn't even been out a week officially (got mine yesterday), I think we'll see some good news in due time.
Sorry if this has already been posted or is in the wrong section i am new to the forums.
Okay i recently got into rooting and putting custom roms on my phone right now i have an HTC evo 4g.
But i am eligable for an upgrade with sprint i have been waiting for a while because i knew there would be an amazing phone to be released soon enough and i am starting to think the SIII.
Is this phone worth it? I would only be paying 250$ for the 32gb and 199$ for the 16gb with my upgrade.
is there any other phones that are up there with the galaxy s3 on sprints network? Or should i just go and get this phone.
is it alot faster then the s2? also will i be able to put jellybean on it if i was to get it? is there a stable release out.
Yes. Go get this phone.
Is the best currently available.
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Buy the phone if you want it. It's a great phone but it may not suit your needs. Check it the specs and compare it with other phones you can choose from .
Your s3 model won't be the international version, it will be the dial core version so check their forum to see their development.
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Buy the phone if you want it. It's a great phone but it may not suit your needs. Check it the specs and compare it with other phones you can choose from .
Your s3 model won't be the international version, it will be the dial core version so check their forum to see their development.
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Is there anything less with the dial core version? I will go try to find there forum now thanks.
Yes
He meant dual core version. You aren't really losing much. Both versions are top of the end amazing phones.
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Yah.. Amazing phone and pretty cheap compare to Iphn5 but more features
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The dual core GS3 has documented and developer-friendly Qualcomm = definitely worth buying.
S3 is easily the best phone I have ever owned (and I have owned a great many top-spec phones).
That said I preferred the S2 in terms of size and weight. But the S3 has a higher quality screen and considerably better battery life
Oooh i see now the I9300 is the quad core version which is not in the US
The US version is dual core.
Okay how big is the difference in speed between the two?
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Okay how big is the difference in speed between the two?
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Should be similar on stock touchwiz. The dual core one is lightyears ahead of the Exynos one, though, when it comes to custom AOSP roms. Why? Well, just ask @codeworkz ^^
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Should be similar on stock touchwiz. The dual core one is lightyears ahead of the Exynos one, though, when it comes to custom AOSP roms. Why? Well, just ask @codeworkz ^^
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Thank you very much.
Just wanted to add my opinion to this one as I'm sick of all the exnos bashing.
Just because cm devs can't get it to work properly does not mean it's bad. It's the best version and I've never ever used a ti Omap or Qualcomm based phone that wasn't **** and dont get me started on cm roms on phones as from desire onwards I've never encountered a cm version worth installing as they aren't worth it. Stock android has always been and always will be lacking and ugly no matter how many cookie cutter mods you implement like volume button wake which is old old old.
Do yourself a favour and stick to Samsung based roms and save the headache and the laughs from people who see your stock android device and the pictures that come off the aosp camera among other things.
The SG III is way better value than the iphone 5.
If you want something "worth buying", you are the only one who can actually decide on this.. because it may/may not suit you. So i suggest you search and gather info for yourself so you get accurate infos
I do not mean to flame or anything, just a mini-suggestion. Hopefully this will help you in your decision
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I am surprised that no one said that you should wait for the Note 2 or the new Nexus or the next Galaxy S x, where x>3. There will always be better, but when you actually start using the phone you see that you don't need anything more, except less call log lag
It is that great that I don't even have the urge to root it right now and I rooted and reflashed everything android I had before.
I've just ordered a new tablet (Generic Tablet; 1.2GHz processor, 512Mb RAM, 4GB ROM, 8GB SD & Android 4.0.4) I've decided to try to port the Note 2 "Split screen" feature, I'm guessing I'm going to have to port the whole ROM?
If so I'll just give it a go, Apparently the Tablet is Pre-Rooted so it shouldn't be too hard to cook with!
Any ideas?
wont be easy! best of luck
-Rik[Rittik]
What kind of processor is it? Also which gpu?
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robcore said:
What kind of processor is it? Also which gpu?
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its an Allwinner A13 processor, ARM Mali 450 (512kb) GPU... Is this a Problem?
Basically I want to be able to run One thing in one half of the screen and another in the other half...
Actually, you have a great shot st it. Currently the only devices running mw have mali gpu's. That said, its a Samsung specific feature so that could be your biggedt hurdle. You might want to try onskreen's cornerstone for cm. Just google it and youll see its pretty much the same concept. : )
Edit: upon further research qcom can support it, good luck!
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Hi, Tech Guys here!
I don't know if I'm posting in the correct category but I thought it would be the best way to decide here which device to buy. Yes, I've looked on various sites and reviews for the best mobile device out there. Surely, most of them would suggest any one of the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One and Xperia Z. Well, I've not found any review considering the development of the devices and I don't think I'd. Thus, I decided to post a thread here on XDA where I can easily get recommendation for it and can have my priorities considered by the techies here. At the moment, I own a Samsung Galaxy S II. The only reason I still love it is the continuous development for it. So, my kind request to all of you here is to help me decide the best phone out there - the budget is INR 40,000 ($ 800). Here are the priorities (decreasing order):
Obviously, Android! I don't want restrictions for using my own device. I want the possibility to tweak the settings. I want Custom ROMS, Apps or you can say everything what this site is made for.
The best development support - I think Samsung and Google are the best for it, no?
Battery Backup. It's fine if I can improve it noticeably with tweaks.
Storage
Hell outta performance. I was very disappointed for the reviews that said though having the best performance, S4 noticeably lags a much.
Screen with good contrast and colors. Size also matters.
I don't want to pay much for bloat.
I don't know why my heart is not letting me go against the S4. But I can make the same understand if I've your points here.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone.
I've also added a poll to vote for your choice.
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
balajithegreat said:
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
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One doesn't have a memory card slot and removable back.
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try SIII
I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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True, i'm just pissed at AT&T for my locked-bootloader-s4
That problem will sort itself out soon though...
zelendel said:
Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Yeah, I mean the device should've nice development support but the other stuff I've mentioned in the list also matters. I'll be comparing Nexus 4 with S4 (i.e. Researching...)
Hello everybody.
Sorry in advance, I suppose that this question should be a sort of XDA trending topic during these days. However after a little search, I didn't find anything similar on the matter. Hence I'm opening a new thread. Feel free to close it if necessary
I suppose that somebody is already working on a "Google Edition" of i9300. A vanilla AOSP. Would it be so different from a classic CyanogenMod or AOKP?
Thank you for your answers.
Peace.
Will just look like the nexus but with a better camera and new bootanimation
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Its not bad its Samsung that's being secretive about its sources.
Of course I also though tegra was good until I got this phone.
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Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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coolnessQ said:
Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
To answer OPs question technically it is possible but it will require a lot of time and effort ..not to mention a lot of skill as well...the reason being both are quite different phones with different SoCs ..it would be somewhat easier to do it from the AOSP source code but as everyone already knows without documentation from Samsung that is again a difficult prospect ...none of the devs want to invest time in a project which they already know will be a a failure ...this is not about which is better TW or pure Google experience but about having a choice.
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Why would you want to when there are so many alternative versions out there?
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
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Yeah thats true
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Thread closed as its a duplicate of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43047800#post43047800