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I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
You can try pulling some of the system apks from the system/app folder like the calender. Dialer might be a little more complicated, think that's something integrated in he framework or with sense . Know there are a lot of other installable dialer and keyboards out there so sure its possible
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dmw_4814 said:
I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
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You can try to use titanium backup on your Thunderbolt to backup all user apps, system data, and system apps. Remove the Micro SD card. Insert your Micro SD card into the Droid Charge, and use Titanium backup to move certain apps that you would like to use. However, keep in mind that the stock HTC apps, may not work properly on a Droid Charge. ie, keyboard, tethering, etc. Hope this helps.
system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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He could get lucky and someone will make a port of sense for samsung phones like they did for touchwiz and non samsung phones. Until then, I'd say he's stuck.
madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Yeah, I only posted this here because it involved pulling apps off of the Thunderbolt, and I figured Thunderbolt owners would know the most about doing things like that!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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All of that still doesn't change the fact you have samsung hardware not supported by the htc sense framework by default. You might have something close to AOSP and still using touchwiz (such as the stripped/themed roms on the thunderbolt) or you might just have an actual AOSP based rom. However, none of that changes the fact that the Sense framework supports sense hardware (which none of that samsung uses) and many of the drivers on the phones are not opensource and so that's what keeps from being as simple as pulling off some .apks on a sense ROM and installing onto your phone. As mentioned, you are far more likely to find someone who can build a sense like framework/launcher from the ground up in the samsung centered or general android development forums than here.
If we're going to resort to name calling and insults by either party, I'll just report the thread to a moderator, because none of that is really needed it's off topic. There's been too much hate going around lately on xda and it just turns off those that really try to help (like me).
If you want a lead of some party to ask, I would contact the developers that ported the touchwiz interface to all android phones or start asking in the older samsung forums that have more development going on (or in the general ones as mentioned). They would probably be the most interested in helping as I mentioned before. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/modified-touchwiz-4-launcher-for-all-android-devices/ (these guys)
Are you guys noticing that a lot of the custom ROMs out now are pretty buggy? I have tried about 10 ROMs in the last two weeks, and usually they seem great at first. Eventually weird things start happening, like sluggish rotation behavior, or random reboots. Sometimes MMS messages will not send, sometimes texts get hung up and I have to delete all my threads... I've had my phone freeze while sleeping, and missed alarms. I find myself flashing a ROM almost every other day, because it seems that I don't notice a huge problem until it has a day to settle on my phone. One problem that really annoys me is that in the Gallery app, on some ROMs, when you rotate the phone, the picture flys off the screen for a second or so, then re-centers itself. In general I've had issues with 3G/1X, and sometimes even calls being sent to voicemail without ringing. I also notice that from one ROM to the next, battery life can be dramatically different, despite having the same exact settings.
When I had my un-rooted Evo 3D, I had barely any of those problems. I definitely never had it freeze during the middle of the night, or overheat, or get wildly-sluggish. Now, with my stock ROM, I never had as SMOOTH as an experience as the fastest custom ROM I've used, and I've also never had as great battery life as the longest-lasting custom ROM out there. I just wish there was a way to take all the good things from every ROM out there, and put it into one, perfect ROM. I have seen the ROMs that claim to do this, but they still tend to have basic flaws. It makes me think that an updated base is to blame for a lot of this. The first round of custom ROMs I had that were based off the original stock seemed rock-solid. Now I've tried just about everything, and there are glaring problems with each of them. Sometimes I am embarassed because my phone has powered off during very important times--like on-call situations at night.
I have multiple wipe APKs, but I was told that the newer superwipe was the end-all be-all of wiping, so that's what I've been using lately. Right now I am using one of the more stable ROMs, Revolution HD 1.1.1, but I still get the random picture movement when rotating in Gallery, I still get really bad 3G/1X problems, where I have to frequently turn off mobile data to get it back... I have had it reboot on me twice in the last 2 days. One thing that really pisses me off, which is not specific to this ROM, is that when I am on WIFI, MMS messages tend not to send or receive... I can't recall if the original stock ROM had this problem or not. I have this issue with stock messaging as well as Handcent. The moment I disable WIFI, my messages appear with images.
Being that I didn't have these issues with truly stock ROMs, I don't believe it is a hardware issue. Am I the only one experiencing these problems, or are others just glossing over these sort of reliability issues, and accounting them to being a flashaholic, or something similar? The only reason I keep flashing is to find one that is rock solid. If I could get the original stock ROM with battery life to get me through an entire day, I'd be happy, but it didn't come close.
What ROMs did you try?
MMS Messages send and receive over WiFi for me just fine (Sense ROM) but on AOSP, they will not.
I suggest you try one of the lesser popular ROMs, as the top ones seem to have the most issues according to my reading and research.
If you want a fast, stable and great battery life that just works check out CleanROM. It is basically stock with the junk pulled out. The dev is very hands. Worth looking at the very least.
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
I get random reboots often. The mms over wifi has never been an issue though.
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well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Thanks for the info and cool story bro.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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Two words. ANDROID REVOLUTION! check it out.
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Sad Panda said:
Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
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Yes to some extent I see your point. Smokin rom is a build based on steel rom... steel rom however, is just steel rom. Clean rom has had little issues with previous builds but scott being a dev has worked everything out and optimized that rom to the max... and it has its own tweaks to it as well. Same thing with steel rom. I'm not sure what wtsb is based off of but I have never had problems with that one either.
And virus rom is damn near flawless. I have never had a problem with... ever. Since day one. Been running 1.4 for over 2 weeks and it is just as fast as it was the day I flashed it. So im confused by the op's post when he says after a few days they have all lagged and become slow
Was I a little harsh? Maybe. But was I right to think this person is simply complaining and wasting my time? Absolutely. This thread is just him complaining, not problem solving, not helping anybody, just knocking people's hard work when the real issues are found on his end obviously.
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
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Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
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What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
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Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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I'm with this guy.
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
Hope this helps
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Yes, I've noticed it too but you just need to use a dose of caution and ask around. I tried about a half dozen ROM's and I've found that the ones that are more "tricked out" have the most problems. Makes sense, because they are fooling with more stuff in the ROM.
That said, there are some really fast and good ones out there. Deck's ROM never gave me any trouble but it was a little TOO stock for me. I've since switched to CleanROM 2.7 and that's incredibly solid and almost as fast as the tricked out OC'd ones. So try one of those preceded with a full wipe and you should be happy.
Mike
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What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
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Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
t3project said:
should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Seeing how this is a thread about "Buggy ROMs", I feel justified in my post. Did I ***** and moan and complain about the issue? No. Did I complain about lack of support? No. Did I complain about anything else? No.
I stated the problem...."100% wakelock while charging" and that's it.
Go preach elsewhere.
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LfnsR said:
Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
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Thanks. Your post deserves a thumbs up.
bmtdan said:
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
Hope this helps
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I was originally coming onto the forum to post about how every rom/kernel combo eventually starts freezing on me after a few days of use (causing me to miss alarms/calls/etc), when I ran into this post.
I do use Titanium backup pro to batch restore and have been doing so on the Hero/Epic/Shift/3vo. This is the first device that I have had any problems with, but it does seem to coincide with titanium backup since the stock rom was butter.
What's the method of manually updating each app? Is it simply downloading from the market and restoring data to that app? And how is that any different with the likelihood of restoring "nasty app data"?
OP, do you use titanium backup to batch restore apps too?
Everyone else, is there a log file that I can look at to discover the process that triggers the freeze?
No problems on the roms I've used at all. Most of these posts do end up being user error, or just a bad phone. As someone else suggested, try Cleanrom. It is bullet proof. Nothing fancy, but it works forever.
If there were more problems, there would be a ton more threads like this. Yet we only see a post like this every week or so...
All right, so I just my Thunderbolt a couple days ago, rooted it, first time truly rooting a phone, used Revolutionary. Now for my noob questions.
Will saving apps to my SD card keep them on the phone after installing a new ROM?
I tried installing a BAMF ROM with Sense 3.0, it was laggy and I couldn't access the market, said I needed background data. ROM said it required a MR2 or above radio, I don't know if I have that or not, I'm guessing not since I couldn't access the market. Is there a way to check which radio I'm using?
I'm using the free version of juiceDefender, are there any noticable perks to upgrading to a paid version?
One last question, is there a good calendar app that will have a useful agenda widget (similar to BlackBerry's today feature)?
I'd like to learn what I can as fast as I can and stop being a noob ha ha. I ask about the paid apps 'cause I'd want to buy setCPU and really ramp up my speed. I'm using a free app right now and getting 1.2GHz, but I want 1.4GHz speed.
Okay, I lied, this is the final question, can someone link me to a good easy to understand noob rooting thread that can really help me understand more perks and good to do things with rooted phones?
Thanks in advance, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Background data error should only be happening because you don't have wifi or 4g/3g on,so turn on either. Then go to market it would ask you to enable background data if it off
As for checking the radio not sure.
But on the benefits of root, in my experience is unlimited I have also just go a tbolt couple weeks ago and I have been switching roms and kernels left and right to find the right one to fit my needs. And it's really better because you can customize your phone to something you like.
My tip is to read the sticky threads in the general section and q&a.
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All right, so I just my Thunderbolt a couple days ago, rooted it, first time truly rooting a phone, used Revolutionary. Now for my noob questions.
Will saving apps to my SD card keep them on the phone after installing a new ROM?
I tried installing a BAMF ROM with Sense 3.0, it was laggy and I couldn't access the market, said I needed background data. ROM said it required a MR2 or above radio, I don't know if I have that or not, I'm guessing not since I couldn't access the market. Is there a way to check which radio I'm using?
I'm using the free version of juiceDefender, are there any noticable perks to upgrading to a paid version?
One last question, is there a good calendar app that will have a useful agenda widget (similar to BlackBerry's today feature)?
I'd like to learn what I can as fast as I can and stop being a noob ha ha. I ask about the paid apps 'cause I'd want to buy setCPU and really ramp up my speed. I'm using a free app right now and getting 1.2GHz, but I want 1.4GHz speed.
Okay, I lied, this is the final question, can someone link me to a good easy to understand noob rooting thread that can really help me understand more perks and good to do things with rooted phones?
Thanks in advance, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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Radio
Settings>About Phone>Software Information>More>Baseband Version
Compare to the radios here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128&highlight=radio
If its not a radio in the Gingerbread section, download BOTH radios, rename one to PG05IMG.ZIP and place on the root of the sd card, boot into hboot and let it update. After its updated and booted, delete that file from the root, rename the other and place on the root. Boot into hboot and update that radio. Doesn't matter the order. You can find a zip with both radios in one, i'm just lazy and did a quick search to find you that one.
As far as overclocking, look into custom kernals that support higher overclocking and the speedtweak.sh script is nice. I use IMO's kernals, then go into any terminal emulator on the phone (download from market), type su, hit enter, then speedtweak.sh, hit enter. Gives you some options. Also nandroid your phone before messing with overclocking speeds incase you set to a speed you're phone can't use. You can screw your phone up overclocking, be careful.
Custom kernels can be found in a sticky on the development page. If you started with the latest GB update, then you have the latest radios. For apps, use titanium backup from the market. It saves all apps and their data for you.
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Thanks guys, I'll have to really check those out when I'm not so tired and can properly read without getting aggitated ha ha.
metllicamilitia said:
Thanks guys, I'll have to really check those out when I'm not so tired and can properly read without getting aggitated ha ha.
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Good luck. Post back results or if you have any problems. And always always always back up current ROM and do a full wipe when flashing anything new (mod,ROM, kernel, radio) to your phone.
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LeftyGR said:
Good luck. Post back results or if you have any problems. And always always always back up current ROM and do a full wipe when flashing anything new (mod,ROM, kernel, radio) to your phone.
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Don't not do a full wipe when flashing a kernel you are going to confuse him, if anything needs to be wiped just dalvik cache.
No wipe needed to flash a radio just do it.
Depending on the mod and what it changes just dalvik and clearing normal cache never hurts.
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Don't not do a full wipe when flashing a kernel you are going to confuse him, if anything needs to be wiped just dalvik cache.
No wipe needed to flash a radio just do it.
Depending on the mod and what it changes just dalvik and clearing normal cache never hurts.
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Crap! OK new rule for me. No posting before coffee. Thanks for correcting.
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Okay, so I did notice one thing, I installed the Eternity Nightly theme, which I love, but I had to restore back to stock because when I used Titanium Backup to restore apps+data, it reset all my settings back to stock anyway and I really want to use the theme that comes stock with Eternity Nightly. Did I do something wrong?
when you do the restore on Ti, select only the apps you need, not all. Sounds like you restored some system files too that reset your theme.
I was attemting to try again, but there was an issue backing up the boot image. Is there a way to fix that?
Where are you backing up? I'm assuming through CWM? If it failed to back up, boot your phone up, download rom manager if you don't have it, and have it flash CWM recovery again. Then try to back it up again.
Yes, CWM, I have ROM Manager, I tried flashing recovery and attempting again twice, same issue, can't backup the boot image.
Figured it out, there wasn't enough space on my SD card for the backup, I found out when I tried to record a voice note and it said I didn't have enough space to record. I was using an 8GB card, but I think I'll have to switch to the 32GB. I was using sav ming the 32GB for a new mp3 player but a rooted phone could use it better I think.
So, I know what a sense ROM is, but what are the differences between and sense ROM and an ASOP ROM?
And what are the advantages of flashing different kernels?
metllicamilitia said:
So, I know what a sense ROM is, but what are the differences between and sense ROM and an ASOP ROM?
And what are the advantages of flashing different kernels?
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AOSP = Android open source project. So Sense ROMs are based soley on HTC phones. AOSP is a more general Android OS. If you're running a Sense based ROM, you use a kernel for that specific style. Generally, using a kernel for one ROM on the other style ROM will most likely cause problems...
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Okay, new one, I'm running BAMF Cubed 1.0.9 with the Red Hot theme for it and an Imosogen kernel, not sure if the theme or kernel matter. The only question I have with it, is how do I get FriendStream to work? I use FriendStream all the time (until I get to alpha test Social Scope), so any help is greatly appreciated. I hate the stock FB app/site, the news feed is crap now.
metllicamilitia said:
All right, so I just my Thunderbolt a couple days ago, rooted it, first time truly rooting a phone, used Revolutionary. Now for my noob questions.
Will saving apps to my SD card keep them on the phone after installing a new ROM?
I tried installing a BAMF ROM with Sense 3.0, it was laggy and I couldn't access the market, said I needed background data. ROM said it required a MR2 or above radio, I don't know if I have that or not, I'm guessing not since I couldn't access the market. Is there a way to check which radio I'm using?
I'm using the free version of juiceDefender, are there any noticable perks to upgrading to a paid version?
One last question, is there a good calendar app that will have a useful agenda widget (similar to BlackBerry's today feature)?
I'd like to learn what I can as fast as I can and stop being a noob ha ha. I ask about the paid apps 'cause I'd want to buy setCPU and really ramp up my speed. I'm using a free app right now and getting 1.2GHz, but I want 1.4GHz speed.
Okay, I lied, this is the final question, can someone link me to a good easy to understand noob rooting thread that can really help me understand more perks and good to do things with rooted phones?
Thanks in advance, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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Though my Q&A hasn't been updated in a while, most of your questions are answered there. As for Juice Defender, well... I've never been a fan of owning a touch screen feature phone so I don't recommend it.
metllicamilitia said:
Okay, new one, I'm running BAMF Cubed 1.0.9 with the Red Hot theme for it and an Imosogen kernel, not sure if the theme or kernel matter. The only question I have with it, is how do I get FriendStream to work? I use FriendStream all the time (until I get to alpha test Social Scope), so any help is greatly appreciated. I hate the stock FB app/site, the news feed is crap now.
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This may be a good q to ask on the ROM's feed.
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Hey id thought I just throw a couple questions in here since a new thread isnt necessarily needed.
I Just Picked up this phone, root is done, just wondering if anyone can tell me the best radio/kernel setup that works great with MIUI & 4G is stable?
How often do you guys make a backup up?
I used to do it very rarely. Then it became every Sunday.
Now I'm doing it everytime I install a new app, or make a mod to the phone... I do one almost daily, and sometimes up to 5 times a day!
And I don't even change ROMs after that!
Is that bad? How often should I do it?
How often do you guys go it?
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I usually only make one when changing/updating ROMs. Then I only keep it till the next ROM change or a completely different ROM, for example I keep the original Sense nandroid and I have the last ILWT CM7 nandroid I made when switching to ICS, but, usually delete between ROM updates.
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i do Nandroid backup once or twice every week...
- backup before update ROM or change to other ROM
- backup before i update kernel
- backup after i update alot of apps on that day
I do it only before changing/upgrading roms... in the first case i keep it for two/three of them in the eventuality to go back for a more stable one... only the last good one in case of upgrade.
I backup every saturday and keep backups of all my fave roms set up and ready to go.
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I do it every time I mod Rom or change the Rom...
It's not harmful taking nandroid backups
"Ever wondered why??"
olyloh6696 said:
I do one almost daily, and sometimes up to 5 times a day!
Is that bad? How often should I do it?
How often do you guys do it?
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Careful there, you might end up blind.
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I just do mine every time I mode my ROM.
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Careful there, you might end up blind.
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Hahaha
I guess the way I phrased it was a came out wrong if you read it in a different context
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olyloh6696 said:
Hahaha
I guess the way I phrased it was a came out wrong if you read it in a different context
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Indeed! Funniest "misunderstanding" since the "How to take a dump" thread someone made asking how to take a... screenshot!
That made my day, so thanks!
Jokes aside, I find Titanium sufficient to backup apps and data and I only do nandroid backups when I edit system files. That way, if something goes wrong, I go to recovery -> Advanced Restore -> /system so my phone comes back to normal and my data are intact. So 5 nandroids a day will do no harm but no good either, imho.
iridaki said:
Indeed! Funniest "misunderstanding" since the "How to take a dump" thread someone made asking how to take a... screenshot!
That made my day, so thanks!
Jokes aside, I find Titanium sufficient to backup apps and data and I only do nandroid backups when I edit system files. That way, if something goes wrong, I go to recovery -> Advanced Restore -> /system so my phone comes back to normal and my data are intact. So 5 nandroids a day will do no harm but no good either, imho.
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Ok thanks!
I'm gonma try to cut down the NAND backup now
Its a bad habit
I just made a few changes to my Launcher, and I'm feeling tempted to just to a NANDroid backup now
Must resist..
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I make a backup everytime i root. So i backup the stock rooted rom then flash away. Also make sure u dont swap sd cards or u will get a md5 mismatch
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If you do it that often there's a good chance that one day you include the problem that screws up your install in your Nandroid, making it worthless to go back to. If you're flashing/modding a lot i'd suggest having one known stable backup which you keep as a fall-back, and then another that you replace as often as you like.
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If you do it that often there's a good chance that one day you include the problem that screws up your install in your Nandroid, making it worthless to go back to. If you're flashing/modding a lot i'd suggest having one known stable backup which you keep as a fall-back, and then another that you replace as often as you like.
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Good point! I see your logic.
Thanks for that!
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Never do those. Only backed up my efs folder.
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First, let me say I love this forum. Second, this is my first smart phone, let alone an android OS phone. I have never rooted a phone, let alone installed a custom ROM. I do have linux experience but more as a hobby, not a power user. I like to keep a linux machine around for fun. The idea of never using windows again at home is one I hope to go full bore on someday but I refuse to go MAC.
Having said that, I really like the stock setup from a usability standpoint. My only complaints are the bloatware that I cannot remove and that even when I have power saving turned on, the battery seems to go too fast. I'm trying to accomplish the following:
1) Improve battery life
2) Free up storage space
3) eliminate bloatware
4) Maintain simple interface (I don't want to be inundated with options and choices)
I use my phone to watch MKV movies a lot. I also prefer the stock browser. I watch a lot of flash videos/streams online. I like to be able to use DLNA to share MKV to other devices on the network. I'm not a gamer anymore.
Would anyone be able to help me decide how to accomplish this? Would a custom ROM be a good solution for me? If so, which ROM? Would I be better off just rooting the phone and uninstalling items?
Thanks for any answers and advice you nice folks can give me.
Rooting phone is a good idea. That way you have full control over your rom. Remember to do a backup of your rom before you start making changes, then if you get in to difficulties you can revert back to the original with out any worries.
Android Revolution is a good "Sense cleaner" with some non-intrusive enhancements.
Venom (my current ROM) takes it to the next level and has a friendlier UI for removing Sense bloat. Venom has more configuration options than you can imagine - but you can just ignore them if you like things the way they are.
The best perceived battery life I've had so far on my HOX+ is CyanogenMod though. It's a totally separate build, and based straight on original Android source, not HTC's. You'll lose the sweet HTC camera chip functions with this option (if it's really that sweet is a matter for debate though).
I can only agree with the previous speaker.
Venom is probably the future.
You have so many settings that you will not find elsewhere.
Stable, fast, smooth, and a great support.
Hats off to the developers
If only they'd get rid of the viper icons
Haha. It'll look more professional....just saying.
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gamepr said:
If only they'd get rid of the viper icons
Haha. It'll look more professional....just saying.
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That's right. I hope it looks better from now.
Well I do not know if you are an international or U.S. user. I can only speak for U.S. and my experience has been Elegancia. The rom is fast stable and offers the simplistic support of what you enjoy. Personal preference directs me away from Viper rom. I have found it buggy, slow and overall hinders daily use. If you are international I would definitely go with Cyanogen Mod, and would still transition to cyanogen once it is released for the U.S. variant.
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Well I do not know if you are an international or U.S. user. I can only speak for U.S. and my experience has been Elegancia. The rom is fast stable and offers the simplistic support of what you enjoy. Personal preference directs me away from Viper rom. I have found it buggy, slow and overall hinders daily use. If you are international I would definitely go with Cyanogen Mod, and would still transition to cyanogen once it is released for the U.S. variant.
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I use the International Device. For me, the Viper Rom works fine on my Hox +.:good:
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Well I do not know if you are an international or U.S. user. I can only speak for U.S. and my experience has been Elegancia. The rom is fast stable and offers the simplistic support of what you enjoy. Personal preference directs me away from Viper rom. I have found it buggy, slow and overall hinders daily use. If you are international I would definitely go with Cyanogen Mod, and would still transition to cyanogen once it is released for the U.S. variant.
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I second this. Elegancia is great. It gives me great battery life, better than the others Imo. But YMMV.
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I was just the same as you but my advice would be simply to install android revolution HD, it looks identical to the default HTC sense so its really easy to use obviously. It improves battery life really well from my experience, I can easily go a couple days without recharging if I need to, or more if I don't use it much. The ROM also has great performance and it makes everything noticeably faster and more fluid, it also uninstalls all the rubbish that's on there when you get it like amazon MP3 and all that stuff. As for installing it just use Hasoon2000's toolkit which I'm sure you've seen by now to root and install the ROM.
Android Revolution HD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987885
Hasoon 2000's Toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
I'll give you my experience, since I'm in a similar boat. After 3 years away from Android (had the first Motorola Droid but wasn't into rooting), I switched from my iPhone 4 to the HOX+ on AT&T so I could give Android another shot. I quickly learned that HTC and AT&T put a LOT of crap on their phones I didn't need, and wanted to slim it down, get better battery life, speed things up, etc.
So for my first rooting/ROM experience, I used Hasoon's tool to root, then went about picking a ROM. I ended up with Elegancia, but really I'd go with either that or Viper just based on the amount of activity on their threads. Elegancia has been excellent, and if you're essentially looking for stock experience with better battery life, just make sure you DON'T choose "De-sense" in the options, and just leave all the HTC apps on during installation.
I actually de-sensed and went with Nova Launcher, but I can tell you that the ROM runs MUCH smoother and faster than stock, and I haven't regretted it. I haven't tried Viper yet. Depending on how long Llior takes on his CM 10 for the AT&T, I may try Viper in a week or two to see how it goes, but honestly, can't go wrong with Elegancia.
Hope this helps. As a similar noob in the rooting/flashing scene here, if you have more questions let me know.
Thanks for all the replies.
I have used the toolkit and rooted the phone today. Everything says to backup before installing a ROM. I thought I made a backup during the rooting process. I only really want a backup of my stock phone in case I have to go back later.
How do I know if I have a full backup that I can use later?
What exactly is the process for creating a backup and where is it saved? Can I save a backup on my PC instead of the phone?
I don't want 2 or 3 complete backups on my phone hogging up space.
OK. I think I got Elegancia installed but I never did install the new boot.img.
Does the elegancia ROM install/update this automatically? I have booted into the new Elegancia ROM and it appears to be running fine.