Does your phone get REALLY WARM/HOT after using GPS Navigation?
Is this normal?
Yes. Very annoying.
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Neo3D said:
Does your phone get REALLY WARM/HOT after using GPS Navigation?
Is this normal?
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Yes, seems to be fairly normal on this device (at least the CDMA version) as this was also an issue on the Sprint EVO. A lot of power is required to use both the GPS and Data at the same time for a long period of time. Definitely will warm the phone up, especially if you have it connected to a charger.
The power drain from the GPS radio and Data usage (WiFi or Cellular radio) can be more than some chargers supply and leave the device in a power draining state even though it is plugged in while using both of these radios at the same time.
No real work around for this from what I've seen, it seems to be a hardware power consumption issue.
Perhaps there might be some tweaks or tips to mitigate this issue but the best solution I've found is to not use GPS and Data simultaneously for too long ... A good battery and temperature monitoring widget I use to watch this information is the BatteryLife widget for free in the Android Market.
Hope that helps!
Your phone will always get hot when under a lot of use (GPS, YouTube, games, etc)...computers have fans, phones do not
Well, what I do is, I have a nice phone holder (it was originally a gps car holder), and I use it in a way so as the ac vent from the car, blows air directly to the back of the phone, and after that, I never had any more heating problems (even after hours of non stop road use while traveling)
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@dchamero - that's a good idea
dchamero said:
Well, what I do is, I have a nice phone holder (it was originally a gps car holder), and I use it in a way so as the ac vent from the car, blows air directly to the back of the phone, and after that, I never had any more heating problems (even after hours of non stop road use while traveling)
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In fact, here is a pic of my phone in the car
Qualcomm made an official app for saving battery called the Qualcomm BatteryGuru which works pretty well. It basically monitors your phone usage for a week and then makes changes accordingly to help you save battery life.
Worth checking out. I got good results on a Nexus 4.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app&hl=en
Didn't help at all with my Nexus 4. I might give it a go with the ONE.
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Didn't help at all with my Nexus 4. I might give it a go with the ONE.
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Well, isnt the Nexus 4 a Tegra processor, not Qualcomm? *confused*
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Well, isnt the Nexus 4 a Tegra processor, not Qualcomm? *confused*
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No...qualcomm
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nexus 4 uses a snapdragon something pro. its a quad core proc. the HTC one uses the snapdragon 600 which is basically newest updated quad core version of the pro.
I'm not sure the One needs it. I'm usually at 50-60% after a moderate to heavy day....
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nexus 4 uses a snapdragon something pro. its a quad core proc. the HTC one uses the snapdragon 600 which is basically newest updated quad core version of the pro.
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The SoC in the N4 is colloquially referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro, specifically APQ8064. It has four first-gen Krait cores, now referred to as Krait 200. The One has a Snapdragon 600 SoC, specifically APQ8064T, with four second-gen Krait cores (Krait 300). Krait 300 cores are roughly 10-15% faster than Krait 200, though obviously it varies a lot depending on workload. Both SoCs use the same GPU (Adreno 320), though supposedly there are some tweaks in the APQ8064T version.
Qualcomm is in a pretty ridiculous position right now; there aren't really any phone SoCs that are competitive with their latest, except maybe Exynos 5410 in the Galaxy S4 I9500 and SHV-E300S--though those are hard to come by so not a lot of battery/performance info is out about them.
Anyway, the battery guru thing is pretty worthless if you spend any time optimizing your phone for yourself, especially if you are used to using apps like BetterBatteryStats and Greenify or something similar. It just automates the process of looking at the sort of data BBS would generate and offer to make changes based on your usage.
easyc said:
I'm not sure the One needs it. I'm usually at 50-60% after a moderate to heavy day....
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I always wonder what people consider a "Heavy Day," I ran my HTC One to shutdown by 4pm the other day. It's al about how you use it. I am a huge streamer, netflix, turntable, play music, you name it, pictures with flash, constant gmail.
Although I have had really good days too, but mostly 50-60% on really light days, where my phone is sitting untouched for 5+ hours.
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I always wonder what people consider a "Heavy Day," I ran my HTC One to shutdown by 4pm the other day. It's al about how you use it. I am a huge streamer, netflix, turntable, play music, you name it, pictures with flash, constant gmail.
Although I have had really good days too, but mostly 50-60% on really light days, where my phone is sitting untouched for 5+ hours.
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About 200-300 texts (most are work related or fiance), 2 hours of FM radio during commute on the bike, 30-45 minutes of music streaming from my home media server (working out). 10-15 calls. 25 minutes of article reading/forum browsing. Weather checking. Sports checking. BT, GPS, Wifi on 24/7.
I burn about 1.5-2% an hour with this stuff and powersave enabled.
on the very very rare "light" day, i've seen 65-75% at bed time.
easyc said:
About 200-300 texts (most are work related or fiance), 2 hours of FM radio during commute on the bike, 30-45 minutes of music streaming from my home media server (working out). 10-15 calls. 25 minutes of article reading/forum browsing. Weather checking. Sports checking. BT, GPS, Wifi on 24/7.
I burn about 1.5-2% an hour with this stuff and powersave enabled.
on the very very rare "light" day, i've seen 65-75% at bed time.
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Cool! I would consider that pretty heavy usage! I guess I don't ever use the power save functionality, and have a bunch of linked accounts which doesn't help. Auto screen brightness? I also use a lot of WiFi/BT, my day starts at 6am too, so I guess that could be making my difference!
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Cool! I would consider that pretty heavy usage! I guess I don't ever use the power save functionality, and have a bunch of linked accounts which doesn't help. Auto screen brightness? I also use a lot of WiFi/BT, my day starts at 6am too, so I guess that could be making my difference!
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Try the powersave. I'm trying it today with the powersave off. I don't notice any difference in performance, but the battery does seem to be draining faster than usual. My days usually start at 545-6 am, as well. And yes auto brightness and auto screen timeout are enabled, though I usually shut the screen off myself.
easyc said:
About 200-300 texts (most are work related or fiance), 2 hours of FM radio during commute on the bike, 30-45 minutes of music streaming from my home media server (working out). 10-15 calls. 25 minutes of article reading/forum browsing. Weather checking. Sports checking. BT, GPS, Wifi on 24/7.
I burn about 1.5-2% an hour with this stuff and powersave enabled.
on the very very rare "light" day, i've seen 65-75% at bed time.
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Wow that is extremely, extremely good and unheard of. Do you think you can post a list of your current apps (AppList works just fine)? I just want to compare because I'm almost certain some of my daily apps are draining battery. First day I got to use the phone I had the screen on for 20 mins while I was playing with it and burned through only 2% battery life in half an hour off the charger. Seriously, what gives with these rogue apps? They piss me off!
easyc said:
About 200-300 texts (most are work related or fiance), 2 hours of FM radio during commute on the bike, 30-45 minutes of music streaming from my home media server (working out). 10-15 calls. 25 minutes of article reading/forum browsing. Weather checking. Sports checking. BT, GPS, Wifi on 24/7.
I burn about 1.5-2% an hour with this stuff and powersave enabled.
on the very very rare "light" day, i've seen 65-75% at bed time.
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That's an ungodly amount of use, I can stream music, cloud based and on device for about 2 hours give or take. I don't txt that much maybe 5 to 10 a day and maybe 20 minutes worth of voice calls, bt off , GPS off and Wi-Fi off unless I'm home. Moderate facebook, random news articles throughout the day and some web browsing. I take my phone off the charger around 8am, by10pm or so if phone isn't already dead it's just about dead, and that's with power saver on.
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That's an ungodly amount of use, I can stream music, cloud based and on device for about 2 hours give or take. I don't txt that much maybe 5 to 10 a day and maybe 20 minutes worth of voice calls, bt off , GPS off and Wi-Fi off unless I'm home. Moderate facebook, random news articles throughout the day and some web browsing. I take my phone off the charger around 8am, by10pm or so if phone isn't already dead it's just about dead, and that's with power saver on.
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Here is a typical day. Doesn't look like much, but it's over a span of 15 hours.
I think the Power Saver feature on the One serves the same purpose as the battery saver app. I had used the Qualcomm app on my One S and really noticed no change at all in battery life, plus it had a few annoyances (such as trying to connect to secure wi-fi thus killing my data connection). I am using the native Power Saver on my One and it works fine.
easyc said:
About 200-300 texts (most are work related or fiance), 2 hours of FM radio during commute on the bike, 30-45 minutes of music streaming from my home media server (working out). 10-15 calls. 25 minutes of article reading/forum browsing. Weather checking. Sports checking. BT, GPS, Wifi on 24/7.
I burn about 1.5-2% an hour with this stuff and powersave enabled.
on the very very rare "light" day, i've seen 65-75% at bed time.
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I think the key here is the screen on time and the fact that none of these really invoke heavy CPU usage.
Yeah my battery is dead by 6pm unless I charge at work and in the car. The only issue I have with this phone.
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easyc said:
I'm not sure the One needs it. I'm usually at 50-60% after a moderate to heavy day....
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I go to about 10% on a moderate day (subjective) with my rooted cm mod.
The power saver function in the stock rom is pretty good at conserving batter. Does this app do a better job?
Can anyone of you, fit 2 owners, submit first impressions?
I am mostly interested in how notifications are working, are they seamless of the phone brand (same set of features no matter of phone being Samsung or not)...
Second thing is battery ofc, for instance, can it last 4 days (GPS free), with notifications turned on, normal usage?
I Like the device, own first generation, but use it with open fit app, and I am missing mostly notifications part as it was intended when using with great fit manager...
THANKS...
UPDATE: There's great thread on this device already, that if I knew existed, I'd hardly started this one, but the location of it is questionable, as I am not sure if gf2 was ever advertised as s7e accessory...
Hi.
See review from user Pilz, here at XDA:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/review-gear-fit-2-t3396090/page5#post67341876[/URL]"
I have Samsung S6 Edge, smooth connection without problem, also with wireless Energy Sistem headphones. Battery life, 4 days only without using it By me it is between 2-3 days.
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Hi.
See review from user Pilz, here at XDA:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/review-gear-fit-2-t3396090/page5#post67341876[/URL]"
I have Samsung S6 Edge, smooth connection without problem, also with wireless Energy Sistem headphones. Battery life, 4 days only without using it By me it is between 2-3 days.
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2-3 days is good result for 200 mA battery
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2-3 days is good result for 200 mA battery
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Not good, but satisfying By the way, charging is very comfortable with original charger. So, in technical, hardware side, I am satisfyied wit Gear Fit 2. Annoying is only buggy software.
Good, hopefully they implemented reply by template for both call and SMS notifications, find these options really useful...
But, 2 day battery is a deal breaker to me... We'll see...
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But, 2 day battery is a deal breaker to me... We'll see...
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After second charging i've got 18% (82% remains) for 15 hours of usage without training session.
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After second charging i've got 18% (82% remains) for 15 hours of usage without training session.
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Ok, report here when you get some constant results..
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Ok, report here when you get some constant results..
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BTW, first charging (not sure, was it fully charged?) lasts 2 full days. Used hardly - few trail "trainings" (~1hr each) with GPS, few workout session (~1hr each), played with settings, listened music, tryed some watchfaces.
2 days max, not with brighteness on 10
after 6, almost 7 days of 'testing' up till today
djurkash said:
Can anyone of you, fit 2 owners, submit first impressions?
I am mostly interested in how notifications are working, are they seamless of the phone brand (same set of features no matter of phone being Samsung or not)...
Second thing is battery ofc, for instance, can it last 4 days (GPS free), with notifications turned on, normal usage?
I Like the device, own first generation, but use it with open fit app, and I am missing mostly notifications part as it was intended when using with great fit manager...
THANKS...
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Here's my quick and dirty review so far. My prior devices: Fitbit, Polar Loop, Garmin Vivosmart, Garmin VSHR, Microsoft Band 2
Hardware: Very nice design. Well put together (doesn't feel cheap), screen is gorgeous. Band is comfortable and I don't even realize I'm wearing it. Waterproofing is nice. Has magnetic charging and charges at 1.32%/min. One con is that they don't include a loop on the band to lock it in place - I've had it pop off while brushing my wrist against things. Heart rate is accurate enough for RHR calculations. Had to buy a loop (18mm size) for $5.
Software: Beta-like. Buggy. Calories aren't calculated correctly. There are some decent apps (caffeine and water) and the one's there do have good UI/GFX. Notifications are easy to read and work bidirectional (an issue I had with the MS Band 2, where reading it on the phone didn't sync the read status on the band, annoying). Stair tracking is finicky and prone to inaccuracies.
Battery Life: I just logged a test of 91% usage over 68hrs. No GPS & wifi off. Display brightness at 5. Bluetooth on w/ notifications. 1hr worth of workout w/heart rate monitoring. Sleep tracked. That puts it at about an estimate 76hr total time if I don't use power-save mode. That's worlds better than the 50hrs I got with my Band2.
Verdict: It's a great piece of hardware. But buy it only if you feel they'll get the software bugs ironed out and not just abandonware it. I haven't used the original GearFit, so I don't know if they kept working on that.
What I Hope They Add in Software:
+ User voice or feedback submit option.
+ Invert Rotate-On, for wearing it inside the wrist.
+ Weightlifting/Interval workout option on band.
+ Ability to configure power-save mode to automatically turn on. Right now it asks permission at around 10%. Maybe even allow the user to select what it does (ie: grayscale, dim screen, etc.)
+ Automatic goal scaling
+ Inactivity meter (a few bands have this, it's a nice feature).
+ Ability to temporarily go full brightness on screen with extra tap or click. I have mine set to 5, would love to be able to just double-tap it to boost it for when in daylight. I don't believe it has a light sensor.
I'd recommend buying it with a protection plan. I got mine for $175+$30 at BB for 2years no questions replacement. Only reason I did it is because these bands are often made to the cheapest pricing and prone to failure. In fact, I traded my MS Band 2 straight across for this (also paid $175+$30 for that) because I had gone through 4 of those in 6 months.
JUst got mine this morning...Super Comfortable, Display is Awesome...Notifications work great with my V10... I am hoping more apps get developed this time around.
I picked it up a week ago (release day, the 10th), but just returned it. I never return things, and I hated returning this.
My experiences:
GREAT:
-Easily the most comfortable fitting device I've ever had on my wrist, and with no clip, it doesn't scrape desks and laptop palm wrests, or is even noticeable as a lump on the wrist (complete opposite of my experience with my wife's Microsoft Band 2).
-Screen is incredible, indoors, and not bad outside
-Swipe navigation is smooth and responsive
-The display wake gesture was pretty solid and responsive
-The charger is awesome. Pulls device into place via magnet perfectly and works the same regardless of direction, the display shows time and charge, right side up both ways. Mount is stable and low-centered to sit on desk firmly, without being oversized or heavy. Charges extremely fast
-GPS was dead on each day of my 42 mile daily bike commute, in comparison to my Wahoo ELEMNT cycling computer's GPS
MEH-ISH:
-The notifications were good, but limited details which required I go to the phone often to know what it was about. I understand it's a band and not a full blown smartwatch, so not really complaining
-There wasn't much you could do with it as far as apps, but it's new and I'm sure that will change soon.
-The auto-sleep detection didn't work well for me. If I watched TV before bed, it would count it as sleep, and if I got up in the middle of the night to pee and let the dogs out, it would end the sleep session, sometimes ignoring me going back to bed, other times counting them as separate sleeps. If I went into S Health to manually edit it, it was extremely buggy, wouldn't save, would lose the data, ect. I gave up trying. Since there was no manual sleep start/stop like you can with exercise, you have to go with the auto-detect.
BATTERY:
I ran mostly default settings as far as alerts/notifications 24/7 heart rate, ect. My 42 mile daily commute (~2 hrs) I would manually start the cycling mode with GPS and heart rate (ebike, video of my commute) lol and from that, after 24 hours, it would be down to around half battery. Each morning I would have a cup of coffee at my desk and charge it (<20 minutes). I'm the kind of person that needs habits or I forget. So, even if the device lasted 5 days, I would prefer to stick it on the charger at the same time every day to top it off as a routine. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if it lasted a week, or a month+, if I need to travel, but as long as it easily lasts a day, I can be good with that, considering the fast charging. The Microsoft band 2 takes 1hr+ from my experience.
NOPE:
-The stopper, for me, was the locked down data for exercise. Heart rate data couldn't be viewed in the 1 second format anywhere but in a very basic graph on the S Health app and on the device. It doesn't even carry to Google Fit. Even though there's Strava sharing, export options, ect, it ONLY allows GPS and time stamp data out. Even in developer mode of the phone and app, I could only see the 24 hour heart rate samples, and random samples during the activity, nothing even close to the 1 second data, though better than the Microsoft Band's 1 minute heart rate data. Since my S7 doesn't have root, I gave up trying to get at the data.
DISCOVERY:
-Having bought it from Best Buy, I exchanged it for the Vivoactive hr. HOWEVER, after exchanging it, I noticed a Samsung rep in the store so I went to him to say how much I loved the Gear Fit 2, but I HAD to have access to the data, so returned it. He said something like: "Very soon there's a Tizen update coming that will open that data up via an API for the major fitness platforms, including Strava, who is already set up to receive that data once we update".
-Well, crap, wish I had known that before. The Vivoactive hr display is HORRIBLE, I have the brightness cranked and a custom, bold, white watch face to help me try and see it in dim areas. In the sun it's fine, because it reflects the light to see the numbers, but in the dark it's extremely hard for me to see. Also, the notifications are more like annoyifications because they keep re-notifying even after being dismissed, randomly.
i saw a photo in hg notification. good enought for me
My thoughts so far
From a hardware perspective, I am a big fan. I find it to be very comfortable, the screen is gorgeous, and the whole thing is very responsive. I would like more battery - I am only getting a day out of mine so far, but that does involve about an hour of GPS from my bike commute along with an abnormal amount of use, as it is a new toy.
From a software perspective, it still needs work. I have not had it autodetect my workouts yet, and GPS occasionally fails to pick up a signal. Notifications in general are spotty. I will get most text messages on my wrist, but I can't get any alarm clock program to work. My main interface issue is that it is rather common for a swipe to be picked up as a press, especially if I start the swipe on the screen as opposed to off of the edge. I'm not enamored with any of the available watch faces, and I would like an always on mode.
Personally, I have no issues with S Health, but my fitness tracking was very fragmented beforehand. My previous tracker was a Basis Peak, which was locked into its own bubble anyway. So far, I am still doing double tracking of workouts with Endomondo, but once I am satisfied that the GPS will be more consistent (or that automatic tracking will work), I will drop that.
All in all, I am happy, but would like to see a few updates.
Can someone compare it vs. Fit1 (I mean owners of both devices), I.e. notifications, factory apps...
I'm still getting 2.5-3 days of battery life after cycling through it 2x now. I have 8% left after 70 hours of being on with GPS enabled; you can read my OP for more details on that, but I'm happy with it so far.
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I'm still getting 2.5-3 days of battery life after cycling through it 2x now. I have 8% left after 70 hours of being on with GPS enabled; you can read my OP for more details on that, but I'm happy with it so far.
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Really great and thorough test, I've added to the op of this thread, hope you don't mind...
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Really great and thorough test, I've added to the op of this thread, hope you don't mind...
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That's fine with me; I also reviewed the original Gear Fit (I'm surprised the OP is still on the second page) if your curious to see how much it has changed. I managed to eek out 4 days of battery with the original if I recall correctly. I turned on power saving mode earlier today (about 5 hours ago) and it has really helped my battery last this last stretch before it dies. I just hit 72 hours (3 days) of solid usage and I still have 7% left thanks to power saving mode for the past few hours. I think anyone can manage 2-3 days of use if they follow the way I used the device, or any alternative that allows you to use the Gear Fit 2 without limiting it.
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That's fine with me; I also reviewed the original Gear Fit (I'm surprised the OP is still on the second page) if your curious to see how much it has changed. I managed to eek out 4 days of battery with the original if I recall correctly. I turned on power saving mode earlier today (about 5 hours ago) and it has really helped my battery last this last stretch before it dies. I just hit 72 hours (3 days) of solid usage and I still have 7% left thanks to power saving mode for the past few hours. I think anyone can manage 2-3 days of use if they follow the way I used the device, or any alternative that allows you to use the Gear Fit 2 without limiting it.
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Yes, remember your review of gf1, now, as you've mentioned it..
I am using my third gf1 for 2 years now, tried some wear devices, sw3 was the closest to the level I wanted (although I am fan of Sony devices, damn, that thing was so ugly), fr230 was good from noon wear devices, but always coming back to gf1, and the simplicity and looks it had...
I will wait for few months to see how the development rolls out, and also whether will it be accessible in my country via official channels, but I am already pretty sure gf2 to be on my wrist eventually...
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Yes, remember your review of gf1, now, as you've mentioned it..
I am using my third gf1 for 2 years now, tried some wear devices, sw3 was the closest to the level I wanted (although I am fan of Sony devices, damn, that thing was so ugly), fr230 was good from noon wear devices, but always coming back to gf1, and the simplicity and looks it had...
I will wait for few months to see how the development rolls out, and also whether will it be accessible in my country via official channels, but I am already pretty sure gf2 to be on my wrist eventually...
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It is a huge improvement of the first generation GF even though I sold mine a while back. I read through my initial review of the GF, and wow has it changed! I tried a few Android Wear Watches. I'm enjoying the GF2 so far without any real issues which is a good sign. Let me know if you have any questions.