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I may have gotten in over my head and am wondering if anyone can advise if I just blew it or if there is something I can do.
I am a Cincinnati Bell Wireless (CBW) customer and am less than satisfied with the Motorola XT720 and Samsung Galaxy S.
I looked at the specs for the Atrix (3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 ) vs the Samsung (3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 ) and since I thought CBW worked on 1700 and 2100) I thought the Atrix may work on it as I was under the impression that if any one of the 3G bands matched the phone would work.
As a side note - part of my issue with the Samsung is the GPS issues. Part of it is more the issue that CBWs 3G network is not super strong and hence I am on edge even in their 3G coverage area.
Anyhow, I can only get an edge connection. While roaming this week end I did get 3G from time to time. The simple answer may be that I screwed up and bought a phone that I can't get to work with Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but I thought I would place a post out here to see if I am overlooking something. Something odd like AT&T locking out the 2100 or something that there may be a hack to open up which would let the phone work with CBW on 3G or something like that.
If anyone has ideas I would appreciate it. The Atrix is an awesome phone. Not sure that I am ready to pay the AT&T rates over what I have with CBW, especially without unlimited data so I thought I'd put a post out here and see if there is something I can try.
Thanks!
Hey man,
Im in the Cincinnati Market as well and have been with ATT for about, well since they were Ameritech. (long time) i have the Atrix and Lapdock and have been researching switching to CBW for the savings of about 100 per month for my 5 phone plan. I think that the 3g should work but havent verifited that yet. i have unlocked my phone and am taking it to the florence mall CBW to try a demo phone sim to see if i can get 3g. i currently average 1.5 mg download and .5 up load, i have noticed a difference in the towers, in some areas i can get up to 4.5 mb download and 1.5 upload on ATT 3g towers, My ATT guy says that the 4g towers will be turned on in September. should be way faster then. so i will let you know what i find out when i try the CBW sim. but im still unsure about the switch because CBW girl says their 4g is a ways off.
Good luck.
Thanks. Look forward to hearing back. At the moment i cant get it to work and cbw says it won't work.
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Any updates on whether the Atrix would work on CBW? I've been debating if I should switch over to Cincinnati Bell when my Verizon contract is up.
Right now all I can say is that voice and edge work but not 3G data. Personally I am getting fed up with some of CBWs practices and policies. The best i have to say is they have an unlimited data option.
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The 2100 3g band is for Europe only. The atrix will not work anywhere in north America on the 2100 band and it does not have the 1700 band. Unless your carrier lets you roam on att you will not be able to use 3g
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This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
Anyone have trouble getting 3g/4g speeds on their debranded AT&T phones via other carriers?
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No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
tai4de2 said:
No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I am sorry bro. I was like the few first people who own the International Titan and use it with T-Mobile Bands, I stucked at EDGE/2.5G for all the time before i switched to AT&T so look like you are out of luck.
Sorry.
I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
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I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
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It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
someeh said:
It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
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According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
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According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
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I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
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Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
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I hope so, and yes I had checked and it's selected for 3g.
HTC Titan and T-Mobile
someeh said:
I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
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Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
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Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
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I've hit 3g+ in the NYC area, typically in the lower west side of Manhattan. I guess it's slowly making it's way up.
I experienced T-Mobile 3G on a Titan in Redmond, WA yesterday. Got about 2.8Mbit download.
On AT&T I usually get about half that.
Denver 4G
Looks like T-Mobile is doing something in SE Denver right now. I'm starting to see 4G light up on my AT&T Titan phone.
Keep going T-Mo!
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This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
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If your Titan I is unlocked, download Advanced Configuration 1.5 and within it you can toggle either 3G or H. That said, as T-Mobile refarms their GSM 1900 band, those cities will be able to use their AT&T Titans on 3G/H. It is expected to be in most T-Mobile markets by the end of 2013. I would encourage you to check out TMo News web page at www.tmonews.com for where they are rolling their high speed 1900 band out.
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
someeh said:
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
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Be lucky and happy then; we live in a donut hole in West Central Georgia (US) and there is no T-Mobile service here and where there is AT&T and what remains of All-Tel after Verizon Wireless and AT&T got of what Verizon Wireless had to divest; there is no 3G or H and where my kids live in Opelika, AL, not AT&T but T-Mobile and no 3G there. Auburn-Opelika I doubt is big enough to get the refarmed 1900 H band anytime soon. Though none of these carriers mind us paying for it anyway; amazing how that works; they ***** about some folks using their data up but do you think they charge those on EDGE less; nope!
How do you enable hspa+ on an atrix 4g? I can never seem to get the "H+" or "4g" icon, only H (i've checked inside the phone settings and it is definitely just hspa, not hspa+, or hspa: category 10 or otherwise)
I bought my atrix 4g off craigslist and used it on ATT straight talk for a month and had horrible speeds and never had hspa+ (only hspa) so I had the phone carrier unlocked and took it to tmobile monthly 4g but still I am only getting hspa (not hspa+).
Basically, is this phone capable of getting "pseduo-4g" hspa+ or is it locked to hspa? I've seen several mentions of ATT shipping the phone with hspa+ disabled, but no way of knowing how to enable it.
Other info: I am currently using neutrino ROM.
Thanks!
You will only get edge on t mobile with any att phone.............
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Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
tgeo said:
Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
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I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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Except that Tmobile is refarming their 1900mhz pcs from 2g to 3g... so yeah you can. Las Vegas and Kansas City are already official... so what?
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Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, the Atrix 4G does 14.4mbps hspa, isn't the 21mbps the actual hspa+?
I know it may not be possible but, Hes talking about an ATRIX 4g. Not ATRIX 2. READ MUCH???
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The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
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The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
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I didn't know tmob where deploying a hspa frequency that at&T use. Thanks for that tip.
10Mbps achieved on Atrix on at&T 3g network here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905464
hspa category 10 is 'characterized' as hspa+ but is not hspa+ (evolved hspa) and should not display h+ or 4g on the status bar for that reason. The 4g branding is exactly that... "branding" and at&T should have never used 4g in the name in my opinion. They always said "4g like speeds"
See post #4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912716 where there are also a couple links I posted that I found interesting on this subject.
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Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
tgeo said:
Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
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Only ics and jb display the additional radio info.
The key is that you are on a radio that is suited to your rom and provider. 36p and 37p are the two most popular at&t radios, 37p being the official production release and used on many releases. Both 36p and 37p operate at hspa 10. Each provider is at differing phases, as well as having differing standards in their network, for how they implement the any bells and whistles of cellular. There is so much to it.
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Terrible speeds with H+ Icon. Hspa marked as H+.
I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
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I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
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Might get the app on Google Play called Antennas, it'll show you the cell sites/towers you're connected to on maps; if you're connected at a given mode (like HSPA or UMTS) but you're pretty far from the site/tower, that could be the primary reason you get the "terrible" speeds. Antennas does work best, however, by putting the phone in 2G/EDGE mode but it is capable of doing 3G/4G/HSPA/UMTS/etc as well.
I live literally across the street from the main site/tower that I stay connected to so I pull 5-8Mbps when I'm in HSPA+ mode but, I keep my Photon in 2G/EDGE mode probably 99% of the time, I have Wi-Fi at home also so there's just no reason to use up any of my 5GB of bandwidth for the "4G" side of things.
T-Mobile 1900 mhz service on Atrix 4G in MD!!
So having played with a couple of 4Gś @ work (and how unawesome they made my G2x look!) I purchased a combo phone and lapdock. This before i realized they worked on different frequencies!!! DOH!
Fortunately, T-Mobś been ahead of me on the curve. I read that they started the long road to providing their service to the souls stranded out in Verizon &/or AT&T limbo...
So I swapped my sim and...Yaaaay! 4 of 5 bars of....wait for it... H+!!!:laugh:
Then, BOOOOO! No data! No MMS. No internet!:crying:
A few hours of online (and Iḿ ashamed to say, trial and error build prop editing) plus 3 calls to T-Mob yielded this in an email:
¨APN settings for data and picture messaging (MMS): Android" on T-mobileś support page (as a noob I cannot post the link):silly:
Iḿ now docked, working, spotifying and sharing ´ẃif my XDA fam!¨
Hope this helps!
Hey guys,
I was looking around and there seemed to be a lot of confusion why their Photon's are only getting Edge when unlocked and on T-mobile, while others are getting 3G (some ROMs show an H (standing for HSPA+), because it's technically 4g - yes we can get this on our Photons because it's not WiMax). Here's a quick explanation, hopefully it'll help some people out. Oh, and a quick intro here: T-mobile markets their 3G as 4G because it's pretty fast in most areas. Anyway, our Photons look for 3G on the 1900 MHz range, which is a problem since T-mobile used to broadcast (and still does in many areas) on the 1700 MHz range. Recently, T-mobile started moving everything over to the 1900 MHz range, which makes our Photons happy.
What does that mean for us? If you live in an area where T-mobile has "refarmed" (moved frequencies), you will get 4G (again, displayed as an H or H+, depending on the ROM. I also noticed if the signal gets weak, it will show 3G. Kinda interesting). Otherwise, you will get only edge speeds (an E).
Good news: Yes, you will get 4G on your Photon on T-mobile very soon
Bad news: Some of us will have to wait until mid-2013
Hopefully this helps people out who were just curious or debating getting rid of their photon
You can view where T-mobile 4g will work on our phones here
I recently bought an unlocked Atrix 4g off ebay to use on my tmobile plan. Everything went smooth except that I'm having issues with slow internet. I've looked all over for a solution(youtube, google, xda forums, etc.) All I've been able to come up with was that until late 2012 this phone wasn't even able to connect to tmobile except on 2g, and a bunch of useless(to me) instructions on how to change my APN.
At this point the phone tells me I'm on 3g, and I consistently have 3-5 bars. My old sidekick had 4g in 90% of the area and 3g everywhere else, so I know for a fact that there is coverage. However when I do a speed test I get an average of 25-50Kbps download and upload, occasionally I get 170Kbps. I've called tmobile and verified that there is EDGE network support in my area(apparently also HSPDA but no HSPA+). I just installed GSM Singal Monitoring app from the play store which is also telling me I'm on EDGE network type.
I've tried every combination of APN settings I can find on the internet including cingular settings and have come up with nothing. This data transfer rates don't drop, and don't get better. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm sure it's not the phone, I can get 18Mbps at work on the wifi(running tests, downloads I've seen up to 4MB/s or 32Mbps). Also if there's anything I need to do on the phone to get internet speeds which requires root, I've already rooted the phone. The only thing I've installed since the root is CWM.
I have used both the Atrix 4G and Atrix HD on T-Mobile. The 4G does not have the radio frequencies needed for 4G / LTE data service from T-Mobile, but the HD does. In fact the HD is a perfect match for T-Mobile frequencies. You can check out the detailed specs for these phones on GSMARENA.
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I also am on TMOUS, the best I've gotten is 5.3 Download 2.7upload on edge.
Im not sure why but I cannot use 3g.Not for a lack of trying though.(tried many apn settings,and even playing with the Dev radio settings)
I want to set the facts straight. The only T-Mobile frequencies that are compatible with the bands on our 'specific' devices are for 2G, Recently T-Mobile has refarmed their towers to support unlocked AT&T devices like ours, specifically they refarmed the towers in 'certain' areas to broadcast and receive 1900 mhz waves that our device's can use for 3G and so called "4G" If you only get 2G that's because there are no nearby towers functioning on the 1900 mhz frequencies.
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I want to set the facts straight. The only T-Mobile frequencies that are compatible with the bands on our 'specific' devices are for 2G, Recently T-Mobile has refarmed their towers to support unlocked AT&T devices like ours, specifically they refarmed the towers in 'certain' areas to broadcast and receive 1900 mhz waves that our device's can use for 3G and so called "4G" If you only get 3G that's because there are no nearby towers functioning on the 1900 mhz frequencies.
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I would like to add that I own an Atrix 4G on T-Mobile (in Chicago), and I get Edge, 3G AND HSPA+ signals. OP was correct in that the phone wasn't able to connect to the other bands except on 2G until about december 2012 (they expanded in order to entice iPhone users to switch providers).
But currently the MB860 (Atrix 4G) *does* work on HSPA+ (which is often called 4G, even though it is not true 4G LTE), which is still much faster than 3G.
post or send be a copy of your apn settings.I'm in Houston and they've reformed their towers here.
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I would love it to already get fast 3g for anything else I also have an ahd
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