Hello everybody!
I'm an android "expert noob" from long time and i currently own a i9300.
I always preferred AOSP or AOKP over the original stock Samsung Rom, even giving up some pretty useful functions implemented
such as swipe-to-call and moving the phone near to the ear to call.
Not big deal, I can live without these, but i really need the HDMI-out support for important reasons, which is not working beacuse of "proprietary drivers" (as i recall) never relased, and that's why i always stayed on Stock 4.1.2 roms or customized versions of these (i.e. the great Omega, UltimaRom, FoxHound etc.)
This until the last week, when I found out someone leaked the "official" 4.2.1 Samsung Rom with HDMI-out working (obviously!), so i expected major branches such as CM would implement the necessary files and adapt it to the rom, but this never happened.
Did I miss something, is this still impossible for unknown-to-me reasons or what?
tl;dr Now that "official" leaked 4.2.1 is among us, why AOSP/AOKP developers still haven't implemented HDMI-out in their ROMs?
Because Samsung haven't released the necessary sources I presume, much like camera sources etc
It will never be possible. The standard is owned by Microsoft and will never be open.
R: [Q] AOSP/AOKP 4.2.X + HDMI-out. Possible integration?
I thought it could be ported somehow considering that now CM and official are on same base (4.2)
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Hi all,
First of all, I'm amazed and gobsmacked at how much work all the devs put into their respective ROM's, it's amazing the effort and hard work ppl put in. Passion is alive and well on XDA
Now, to business. I have my Galaxy SII, a Galaxy S, and an Acer Iconia A500. I've flashed them all with their respective ICS. I would think (and hope) that probably out of all of them, the SII has the biggest dev base and most power. The ICS ROMs for the A500 and S are almost perfect. They run completely vanilla with no or almost no bloat, they look and behave the same (icons for network activity inside the bars for example, contacts app looks the same) and have had no hiccups whatsoever.
Come the SII, the only ROMs I've seen are cooked from Samsung sources with their phone and contacts apps, they crash and reboot and if it weren't that I have gone past the point of no return in regard to effort I'd have gone back to Gingerbread days ago.
Is anyone out there developing a completely vanilla "Google" rom that isn't themed to look like ICS, but actually uses the ICS apps etc. I can't understand how the Iconia and SI can have this while the SII seemingly doesn't.
Can anyone open my eyes on this? I'd love to get something as stable onto my SII as I have with my other devices, ICS is brilliant to use on them...and barely bearable on my beloved SII.
Cheers
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Ummmm correct me if I am wrong but that's exactly what the CM team are trying yo to do....
And you can already download and install that, so long as you are happy with the bugs at present.
Unless you meant something else???
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You miss reading the cm9 thread. Check it out....its still alpha.
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I'm more curious about the fact I would have thought the SII having a bigger user and dev base...certainly more than the A500 I thought it would have the most stable and mature code base - yet it seems the opposite is true.
I've been running 4.0.3 on my SI for weeks now and its never bugged out. Installed the A500...and Oh wow its like a brand new tablet!! I wonder is it because of Exynos or some other reason we can't have the same stability and performance right now.
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Your ignorance and disrespect is pretty bad (even if you don't mean it). I think you should do some reading for a while and get yourself acquainted with what's involved.
I didn't ask this to be dissed by someone...I'm sure even you would agree the development cycle and challenges for all three devices would be similar given they all use different processors. So is it easier to compile for the A8 and Tegra than the A9?
I have been looking and downloading a number of ROMs...and if someone has created a ROM in a similar vein to Thor's on the A500 and Onecosmic's on the SI, well I'd be grateful for the heads up...in fact I'm just about to download and test the Pure ROM I just spied over in dev...so see how that goes. Still I'd be happy for someones *constructive* input.
Of course I'm claiming ignorance...if I knew I wouldn't ask...geez lol
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It's a wonder no one bothers doing a straight AOSP compile for any device, really. CyanogenMod comes the closest. There are a few people who played with doing a straight AOSP, but they base it off CM's work and strip out the extras.
When I wanted the AOSP experience with Gapps, I installed CM7 on my SGS and installed the stock Gingerbread launcher. It was the closest I got.
Trebuchet is basically the stock ICS launcher with features added, so it won't be so bad. You can also replace it with the stock launcher as well.
Try Airbus 360s ics rom that's aosp and is fantastic he should be releasing beta 2 tonight.
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haha I bet that confused ya
You're question is a bit noob so don't expect much answers.
Here is a short one to sum it for you:
AOSP - Pure android base without modification.
CM - almost pure with modifications.
STOCK - Hardware Manufacturer (eg. Samsung's) "official originated" release.
Stock - can have it all. CAUSE - Samsung has sources and support/docs for ALL hardware API of the device.
CM/STOCK - While there are some changes BOTH use the same origin.
To sum it, for proper functionality BOTH use SAME kernel/libs base.
So if some hardware functionality broken in one it'll be broken in other =
If CM9 haz no h/w decoding === APPLIES for AOSP.
Another thing to keep in mind, CM9 currently is in the process of adding CM features so current builds are very close to AOSP with functionality.
SUM IT UP:
if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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That's a piece of horrible code, dude
Hi Guys, sorry if it has been asked before, but i searched and couldn't find an answer i was looking for.
I want to try the new AOSP 4.1.1 jelly bean rom on my GS3 but don't want to loose any of the features that the GS3 is known for. for me the camera i cannot loose because i must take around 200 photos a day. I used to run paranoid android on my GS2 and i loved what it had to offer so i am familiar with that type of rom, i tried that rom on my GS3 when i got it and was dissapointed to find out that none of the GS3 features were available.
The answer i am seeking really, is that im probably going to loose certain features like camera etc, am i likely able to install the sammy camera onto the AOSP installed rom to keep the features i use all the time?
im guessing im probably better off waiting for an official update?!?!
cheers in advance guys.
Hi,
You won't have the sammy camera on aosp roms and as far as I know it is not available since its based on touchwiz..
If you just want the aosp look then I would install a different launcher like apex launcher.
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AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and their SDK are backbone for all other Android firmware. Samsung firmware have proprietary software that will not be included. Just install a different rom that retain the Samsung apps.
But we could "fill" the gaps with some other software. For example, Moboplayer now is able to "float" a video around while you are reading twitter.
For those of us who want Samsung's features without Touchwiz thread like this could help.
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Yes, but he is especially referring to the camera app, which you will not have on an aosp rom
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Ok. It could be useful if he tell us what are the features he miss from Samsung camera app.
For example, burst mode.... Camera Zoom FX has burst mode, voice control.... I speak about Camera Zoom, just because i have it
Hi, thanks for you replies guys, i tried the latest paranoid android jelly bean version, ( purely because ive used it before on galaxy s2) and love everything about it apart from the slow camera. I was hoping that the camera would be better on this rom but its still slow, ( i take pictures of my 2 year old son and he moves too quickly so his face is always blurred) so i think i will have to revert back to the official sammy rom.
does anyone know of a way to port the camera app from the sammy based roms?
also if i do go back to the sammy rom, does anyone know if i can install the aosp version of exchange mail?
The sammy version looks so ugly and I kinda got used to the AOSP version when running that on gs2, the sammy one is too dark.
anyway, Ill probably just wait for the official update and see how that goes. I just like certain features from both versions of android. shame i cannot have a multiboot option.lol
cheers.
Paul.
Howsit guys
I have tried about 2 of the CM10.1 ROMS. i know they are all still beta etc, with it to be bugs.
Just wondering, is there a nice stable one available?
The ones i tried keeps on crashing at camera (Could not connect to camera) And also, chrome, buggy?
I dont have alot of time to check and track changes etc, if anyone maybe can recommend? i9300 International version
Thanks guys!!!!!
No stable versions as of yet. It'll be quite a while as even cm10 isn't stable yet for most devices afaik.
All cm builda for now and any derivative works will have bugs. If you stability, stick to stock-based roms. I for myself don't have any problems with camera on cm10.1 (official nightlies)
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If you want to use AOSP, Ill highly recommend sticking with official CM nightlies since they are developed by CM and are generally updated more frequently whilst other ROMs are based upon CM, thus their update are intra vires to that of CM. There are a few others out there may also deserve high recommendations such as SuperNexus but this refers back to my main point.
The camera crash I suspect might be due to the particular sensor used within the camera as some are Samsung and Sony variant. IIRC, Vietnam manufactured units used Samsung sensor whilst others utilise the Sony sensor.
Hello guys, I've recently upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy S III, skipping the Nexus 4 for reasons I should explain only if asked.
I've been reading a lot of posts from AOSP advocates defending Samsung's TouchWiz, which makes for a rather worrying reading.
Now, I'm quite pleased with stock TW Jellybean, it's really smooth, fast, stable and not bloated at all. However, I wanted to try some AOSP roms since developers clearly had some time to work on them, and Samsung has certainly released JB source code to overcome some driver-related issues that there might have been. My question is: is TW still the best option or are there some AOSP roms that are stable, fast and working on every aspect? I'm talking about tethering, data connection, auto-brightness, battery life, bluetooth, camera... the stuff meant to work at its best on a stock TW rom.
Thanks for your help.
Well actually for me the AOSP ROMs are smoother and have all the features I could probably need....but
Samsung didn't released the sources as they told us and because of that (and a couple of proprietary reasons with Microsoft)
We can't make a fully functional camera(slight camcorder/flash stuff that have never affected me)
Can't have exfat sdcards
Can't have native FM radio
(Reason why we are not really officially supported by Cyanogenmod in their M builds)
But that's about it...I would really recommend you to try them...unless you need a Samsung specific feature like AllShare or AllShare control if you have a SmartTV...or want the extra features in the camera (BurstShot ShareShot) that I really never used..... and a lot of those features are now in CM10.1 like HDR and that stuff.
Those are my two 2 cents of the theme
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Hi everybody
Recently I noticed a large interest in the subject custom ROM for Mega. Especially a lot was written about the AOSP. Please express, what do you expect after installing such ROM and why you do not like TW?
Another thing are stock ROM's stripped of almost all s-apps and other software deemed unnecessary in order to recover memory. Please share your opinions on the advisability of such action. Did you really needed all this reclaimed memory?
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
I still dont know if we can expect full 4.3 update. Some web sites claim that Mega wont receive this "Premium package" update whatever that means. I dont think that Mega 6.3 is a mid class smartphone and it would be plain stupidity if we stay out of good updates. So very important part for a custom RoM is the availability of the latest Samsung goodies from the flagman like S4 for instance.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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Hmm, I was asking about expectation towards AOSP custom ROM-s as such CM or MIUI. As you probably know, many futures in Samsung stock ROM depends heavily on TW. Massive striping stock Samsung ROM from all s-apps could even cripple your phone. But installing AOSP ROM will means clean-out all samsung dependencies, so there will be not possible to run futures from S4 or GN3. maybe I'm wrong, let somebody correct me.
I think so TW is not so bad either and was curious why some people are so opposed to it. I was user of Motorola Defy which actualization stops on Android 2.3 so custom ROM's were only alternative. Now I am not so eager to strip my Mega to bare AOSP.
Yeah I missed the point of AOSP rom a little bit, but I strongly believe that a Samsung device without TW loses its advantages. I've been using Galaxy S with AOSP for a long time but I was forced to do it because of the lack of updates after 2.3.6
Samsung says that the new 4.3 update will bring new and fast TW without lags and constant refreshing. This makes me think that porting the new SW is better than Aosp roms. Of course there should be some roms based on CM cause many people preffer stock android instead of customized one.
I just want CM because it allows you to port MIUI v5. I have always been a fan of MIUI roms.