Hello all,
I am fairly new to this whole rooting business so a few questions:
1) been doing some reading and found out that the best way to root htc devices and especially my htc flyer is using the s'off method. Please correct me if i am wrong. Also, is there a simple guide I can follow to root my flyer?
2) I am currently running the default android version 3.2.1 and would like to upgrade to the latest jelly bean 4.1 or 4.2. Is there a clean non bloated ROM out there that I can use? The best one i've come across is the [ROM][10-feb-13][PEN/WIFI][JellyBean/4.1.1] DextersJB.
3) The htc flyer wifi version is a tablet only device (no phone calls possible) wit it also remain that way after install a custom rom?
Thanks in advance!
ABH83
1) What hboot version? If your hboot version is supported, you can S-off using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709
If you are hboot 1.11.0011 (seems common on here lately) then you might check this out (can't personally vouch for it): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070140
Otherwise, you will have to settle for S-on and bootloader unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881748
That's correct that S-off is better. With S-on and bootloader unlock, you have to flash boot.img (kernel) separately with fastboot every time you flash a custom ROM.
2) I personally haven't used any of the ICS and JB custom ROMs, as all of them have at least some hardware elements that don't completely work. But Dexters has always looked pretty good. I think NexusFlyer is the only other JB custom ROM.
3) Your device doesn't have the hardware to work on a cell network, so it won't be able to make cell phone calls, no matter what you do to it on the software side. Of course, you can use internet calling service like Skype over WiFi networks. But that is probably not what you are talking about.
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Hi everyone,
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs and kernels on Samsung phones and variety of Android tablets. This is my first HTC device so I'm a little unsure of my options. I've spent the past week going through many threads using the search but I'm somewhat lost. Can you describe each term and its benefits with one or two lines?
Unlock/lock bootloader? Is this equivalent to installing CWM?
Hboot?
S-on/off?
SuperCID?
fastboot?
And finally, what is 'root' in the context of everything above?
Sorry about the confusion. I've never run into these things while messing around with Samsung phones. ANY help is appreciated. Thanks.
tintn00 said:
Hi everyone,
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs and kernels on Samsung phones and variety of Android tablets. This is my first HTC device so I'm a little unsure of my options. I've spent the past week going through many threads using the search but I'm somewhat lost. Can you describe each term and its benefits with one or two lines?
Unlock/lock bootloader? Is this equivalent to installing CWM?
Hboot?
S-on/off?
SuperCID?
fastboot?
And finally, what is 'root' in the context of everything above?
Sorry about the confusion. I've never run into these things while messing around with Samsung phones. ANY help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's ok, I was in your shoes a few months back. Here's an explanation of everything to the best of my understanding.
Bootloader - I would say this is kinda like the equivalent of a BIOS on a computer. You can access the bootloader by holding Volume Down + Power when your phone is off. With a locked bootloader, you can't really do much to your phone except for flashing stock rom images. You'll need an unlocked bootloader to root/flash roms. No, this is not the same thing as CWM recovery.
Hboot - The version and type of your bootloader. For example, there's ENG, SHIP, and JuopunutBear. Latest version is JBear's 1.93.2222 (I think).
S-on/off - This property is associated with your bootloader. Most phones come with s-on to "protect" end-users from messing up their phones. With s-off, you get much more freedom to customize your phone however you like, such as flashing your own splash screen, radio, etc.
SuperCID - after obtaining s-off, you can SuperCID your device to flash any carrier's rom you like. For example, an Amaze on the Telus/Wind network can take advantage of TMobile's ICS leak.
Fastboot - I don't have the best understanding of what this is yet, but it is an option in the bootloader, and there are adb commands that use fastboot. I think it gives you the ability to turn off and on your phone quickly? Someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong.
Root - gives you root access/permissions. For example, you'll need to root your phone if you want to use some apps that requires root (4ext, lucky patcher, root explorer)
@XDA Amaze community - If I'm wrong on anything, please correct me. Also, please add anything that I might have missed.
Thanks for your help!
I have one more question. I am currently on CWM, Android Revolution (latest with ICS leak), and S-on. If I want to undervolt or overclock my CPU, will I need a custom kernel, S-off, or what?
On other phones, I'd just need a custom kernal and rom that support overclock. I'm not sure how HTC phones work regarding this.
tintn00 said:
Thanks for your help!
I have one more question. I am currently on CWM, Android Revolution (latest with ICS leak), and S-on. If I want to undervolt or overclock my CPU, will I need a custom kernel, S-off, or what?
On other phones, I'd just need a custom kernal and rom that support overclock. I'm not sure how HTC phones work regarding this.
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same, we need a custom kernal for O/C and U/C to work right
Hi Guys
Upgraded from the HTC Desire to HOX+ a week ago.
Modded the life out of the desire (almost 2 years ago) and would love to do the same to the mighty HOX+.
No need to babysit me but can I please kindly request you guys to prod me in the right direction.
My phone is with the network/carrier O2 (UK)
CID is O2___001.
Android Version 4.1.
Just did a OTA update and am now running Software Number: 1.17.206.1.
After this OTA update, the HBOOT has changed from 1.3 to 1.35
HTC Sense Version: 4+
Baeband: 3.1204.168.32
Kernel Version: 3.1.10-gf…..
Baseband Number: 3.1204.168.32
I will be using Hasoon 2000's Toolkit to modify my phone.
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
and perhaps do a search for a youtube walkthrough to guide me...
I haven't got a spare micro-sim to test it, but am pretty sure the phone is network/carrier locked to O2. I rang them and they said they will send me the network unlock code in 10 days via email/post. This way i can use another network's sim when i am on holiday etc...
1. Can I root and flash a new rom on my hox+ NOW and then use O2s code in 10days time to network unlock my phone?
i.e. does the root/flashing a new rom affect the network unlock code?
On my desire, I only ever used one sense based rom: LEEDROID and I LOVED IT because:
Established developer, incredibly stable (never had a problem), great performance (RAM/battery), similar to stock and it had sense, but also added with cool features. I see he has released a ROM for the oneX but not the onex+.
2. In your opinion and seeing my priorities above, which ROM would be suitable for me as the Leedroid is not available?
A BIG THANK YOU,
Sonny
(suffering from phone OCD)
Dont know about question 1.
Q2.
Android Revolution HD!
Pure stock look, battery life is AMAZING. Works with quite a few MODs.
Its the first ROM I have flashed on my HOX+ and to be honest I'm not to fussed about trying anything else! As its just Rocking!
The community in the thread is also great! you basically get 24/7 support!
for network unlock codes to work, you need to be on a sense based rom, so if i were you just hold out for 10days and root afterwards.
I came from a desire (mildwild ROM ) and jumped to ARHD , loved it as a stock based ROM however I missed the power menu and pull down toggles so I'm now on maxwens AOKP port and its great. I may shift back to stock(ish) if HTC do a 4.2.2 based update though
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
Having major trouble rooting cos htcdev site not mailing unlock files etc....
Very frustrating. There is no other way?
Sent from my Droid
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for network unlock codes to work, you need to be on a sense based rom, so if i were you just hold out for 10days and root afterwards.
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If I install apps, wallpaper etc. then network unlock with the code, and THEN root/flash, I guess all my data will go. Will a nandroid backup before flashing a sense based rom solve this issue and I can restore from it after flashing?
Of course if I am flashing a sense based Rom then as you say, I can network unlock on it because the network unlock code simply needs a sense based Rom to work (the network unlock doesn't care about root etc.)
Basically my main aims are speed (not just from the hardware but from the design of the user interface of the ROM) and battery conservation.
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Hi All,
Been an Android guy since the G1, but that was also the last time I had anything HTC. Picked up a One yesterday and I'm so happy to be back.
Did a bunch of reading before getting the phone. I wanted to make sure I didn't do anything irreversible. Before I received the phone, I'd read that you couldn't get S-Off with 1.27.531.11, as they'd patched the HBOOT (even though it's still 1.44.) So once I got the phone and confirmed it was on 1.27.531.11, I performed my first step:
1. Downgraded from 1.27.531.11 to 1.27.531.8.
Next:
2. Unlocked using htcdev
3. Flashed TWRP as recovery
4. Installed Android Revolution HD 4.0 Google Edition
All went smoothly! Because I had no issues with this, I decided it was worth it to push on and get S-Off and SuperCID. I read Vomer's guide many times over, and was about to get rolling with revone, when I found another guide ([GUIDE] PRE-S-OFF - IMPORTANT INFO - Read Before Going To S-OFF Threads!) which contained the following:
You are on or flash a STOCK Sense 5, Android 4.1 ROM! (NOTE: 4.2 Software may be OK however for your best chances use the oldest you possibly can!!
But as a result of #4, I'm now on a GPE 4.3 Rom. This gave me pause.
So, two (and a half!) questions really:
1. Should I flash back to a 4.1 or 4.2 rom prior to trying to get S-Off through revone? If so, what rom should I use? My best guess, if this is necessary is Team Nocturnal's Stock Rooted 1.27.531.8
2. Is there anything else flashing Android Revolution HD 4.0 might have done that would cause problems when trying to use revone to get S-Off? I still have Hboot 1.44, and I don't *think* flashing that rom would have somehow made this the patched version present in 1.27.531.11, but I just want to be sure of what I'm doing. (That question sounds so noobish! But better safe than sorry, I'm thinking.)
Thanks in advance, guys. Really didn't have a great community around my last phone, and I'm psyched to be back amongst a big group of tinkerers.
And from that same guide:
Are not using a GE ROM, 4.3 Rom or on stock 4.3 software
So it definitely seems like I should flash something older first. Just want to confirm what would be best (and make sure there's nothing else I need to do as well prior to using revone.)
All set. S-Off and SuperCID achieved.
For anyone who finds this thread down the road:
As long as you've downgraded to 1.27.531.8, just make sure you're on a 4.2.2 or earlier rom. Multiple reports of revone not working with 4.3 roms. You're on an older rom after doing the downgrade, so if you don't flash anything after that, you're ready to use revone.
Thank you for the info! I had wondered the same thing!
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I just rooted my HTC One M8 and I was wondering if I could still flash roms without having s off because my phone has everything required besides the s off portion but I wanted to see if there's a way I can still flash roms because I want to upgrade it to sense 7
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No, you don't have to be s-off, unless you are flashing a custom, non stock rom like cyanogen mod. I assume you are referring to the Skydragon rom which purports to have the new Sense 7 UI when you say you want to flash a rom with sense 7. Personally I would go s-off before doing anything as it makes reverting back to older firmware much easier. Just scan the q&a thread for all the problems people who are s-on have when jumping from kit kat to lollipop or to dev editions, gpe, etc. Trust me, the $25 spent on Sunshine will be worth the time and headaches you'll get when you start getting flash happy, but that's just my opinion.
As mentioned above, you don't "need" to have s-off to flash a ROM, literally anyway. The ROM will flash, and boot (eventually), and mostly work. But if you are currently on KitKat, and try to go to any Lollipop Sense ROM, its very common you will have some serious issues such as extreme long boot times (10 min or more) with no boot animation (making many folks think it isn't booting at all), broken WiFi, and possibly audio issues. All due to outdated firmware (partitions such as hboot, radio, and more that don't flash with the ROM). And s-off is needed to update to Lollipop firmware, until AT&T releases the LP update officially. In that case, you can update to the proper firmware by official OTA or RUU.
Hi everyone. I'm new to Android, so apologies if this has been repeated before.
I have a HTC Amaze that I have been able to successfully install CyanogenMod 10.0 on. Everything is working fine. I want to do some additional modifications that require S-OFF, however every software to put device into S-OFF appears to require the official ROM.
Can anyone provide any direction on what I can use to put device into S-OFF state with CyanogenMod 10.0? (If it matters, I'll be reloading the device with Android Revolution HD 5 soon)
Thanks everyone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239299
Thats what I used a few years back. But it might not be supported anymore.
Good luck.