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Haven't posted here in awhile but I've been watching the HP Touchpad forums lately. Anyhow
I managed to get one of the AT&T Developer Xperia Play R800a units awhile back and posted pictures etc. Lately I've been borrowing a r800x model from a friend and he's borrowing my R800a to use in the Philippines. I was curious and pulled off the battery cover and saw the nice plastic SIM cover..
I just bought a water damaged r800x (took a risk on e-bay should be here soon). Hopefully the board is still salvageable... the seller just mentioned the screen was shot.....
I've noticed the bootloader has been cracked for the r800x models and was wondering if anyone ever tried flashing a GSM generic firmware to a R800x?
I imagine it would brick the device if all else..but was curious.
From what i've been reading on various sources is that the R800x has both the CDMA/GSM Radios however the GSM Side is more likely disabled in the firmware. I know it probably takes more than just flashing a GSM variants firmware to enable GSM use but was wondering if anyone was attacking or attempting on a solution to enable GSM.
In the Verizon forums, verizon workers are claiming the phone does not have a sim slot but a member basically shut them up by pulling the glued tab however there was no other posts. Seems like a pretty useless phone if you are traveling abroad... there has to be a way to enable this!
I own a Verizon Blackberry Storm 1 and it has a simcard slot that works when it's unlocked. I also got it flashed for Metro PCS and it was funny using a ESN off a old Motorola Razor and paying a dumb phone monthly price.
Thoughts suggestions? When I get the water damaged phone in the mail, i'll be happy to donate for DEV use. I repair cell phones and will have the phone in a workable state if the water damage is not beyond repair.
Warudakumi said:
Haven't posted here in awhile but I've been watching the HP Touchpad forums lately. Anyhow
I managed to get one of the AT&T Developer Xperia Play R800a units awhile back and posted pictures etc. Lately I've been borrowing a r800x model from a friend and he's borrowing my R800a to use in the Philippines. I was curious and pulled off the battery cover and saw the nice plastic SIM cover..
I just bought a water damaged r800x (took a risk on e-bay should be here soon). Hopefully the board is still salvageable... the seller just mentioned the screen was shot.....
I've noticed the bootloader has been cracked for the r800x models and was wondering if anyone ever tried flashing a GSM generic firmware to a R800x?
I imagine it would brick the device if all else..but was curious.
From what i've been reading on various sources is that the R800x has both the CDMA/GSM Radios however the GSM Side is more likely disabled in the firmware. I know it probably takes more than just flashing a GSM variants firmware to enable GSM use but was wondering if anyone was attacking or attempting on a solution to enable GSM.
In the Verizon forums, verizon workers are claiming the phone does not have a sim slot but a member basically shut them up by pulling the glued tab however there was no other posts. Seems like a pretty useless phone if you are traveling abroad... there has to be a way to enable this!
I own a Verizon Blackberry Storm 1 and it has a simcard slot that works when it's unlocked. I also got it flashed for Metro PCS and it was funny using a ESN off a old Motorola Razor and paying a dumb phone monthly price.
Thoughts suggestions? When I get the water damaged phone in the mail, i'll be happy to donate for DEV use. I repair cell phones and will have the phone in a workable state if the water damage is not beyond repair.
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It has been tried, and did indeed brick the phone...It has a sim slot, but it is apparently not connected...
Nhialor said:
It has been tried, and did indeed brick the phone...It has a sim slot, but it is apparently not connected...
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Thanks for posting! When you say not connected... do you mean hardware wise? I have yet to see the inside of the phone other than FCC pictures and don't want to tear open my friends R800x. Now you got me scared like it's missing something hardware wise internally
I was the one that took the brick...
The thought is that it's firmware locked, although it could just very well be unsoldered just the same.
And for the record, the generic firmware will work just fine on the phone. There is just intermittent data and calling issues since all the CDMA stuff has been removed.
The brick occurred when the TA partition in the nand memory was flashed with a gsm build. That's a lot deeper than replacing just the /system files like the generic build does.
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Mills00013 said:
I was the one that took the brick...
The thought is that it's firmware locked, although it could just very well be unsoldered just the same.
And for the record, the generic firmware will work just fine on the phone. There is just intermittent data and calling issues since all the CDMA stuff has been removed.
The brick occurred when the TA partition in the nand memory was flashed with a gsm build. That's a lot deeper than replacing just the /system files like the generic build does.
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Good info. Hmm...well that sucks! Now I really can't wait till I get the phone to tear it apart. Unsoldered? Hmm yeah that could be a possibility as well since i hear people sticking SIMS into the phone but it won't detect it. If I remember correctly I think my Verizon Blackberry would still detect a SIM inserted even when it wasn't unlocked. It just wouldn't logon to a GSM network.
I'll check to see how the R800a and R800x boards differ with their sim slots. If it's indeed unsoldered it will be obvious by looking.
Does anyone know if there is a hidden system menu on the Xperia Play like how some Galaxy Devices have to enable different radio frequencies, gsm/cdma etc? My thinking..if there is such a menu Verizon and Sony won't say anything about it.
Warudakumi said:
Good info. Hmm...well that sucks! Now I really can't wait till I get the phone to tear it apart. Unsoldered? Hmm yeah that could be a possibility as well since i hear people sticking SIMS into the phone but it won't detect it. If I remember correctly I think my Verizon Blackberry would still detect a SIM inserted even when it wasn't unlocked. It just wouldn't logon to a GSM network.
I'll check to see how the R800a and R800x boards differ with their sim slots. If it's indeed unsoldered it will be obvious by looking.
Does anyone know if there is a hidden system menu on the Xperia Play like how some Galaxy Devices have to enable different radio frequencies, gsm/cdma etc? My thinking..if there is such a menu Verizon and Sony won't say anything about it.
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There is no support in the kernel and I doubt even in the hardware. IF (and this is the best case) the baseband supports GSM, it is disabled via firmware (not the kernel driver, but the hardware firmware). A good way to test if the SIM card is hooked up is to use a multimeter and measure the voltage through the pins in the sim slot. This of course required opening up the phone partially.
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Warudakumi said:
Does anyone know if there is a hidden system menu on the Xperia Play like how some Galaxy Devices have to enable different radio frequencies, gsm/cdma etc? My thinking..if there is such a menu Verizon and Sony won't say anything about it.
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The only two hidden systems menus i've found are as follows:
Open your dialer, enter:
*#*#4636#*#*
This one has Phone info, Battery info, Usage States and Wifi info.
*#*#7378423#*#*
Has Service Info, Service settings (empty on my phone), and Service Tests.
Is this what you were looking for?
AFAIK, R800x has CDMA radio so GSM can't be enabled.
multimeter
nothing yet?
will it really be possible?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/02/cdma-xperia-play-visits-fcc-promptly-gets-dissected/
I think using a multimeter in the sim slot would be the best way to answer it!
Could anyone try it?
I thought the CPU in the R800x could only do CDMA so GSM is impossible
Warudakumi said:
Good info. Hmm...well that sucks! Now I really can't wait till I get the phone to tear it apart. Unsoldered? Hmm yeah that could be a possibility as well since i hear people sticking SIMS into the phone but it won't detect it. If I remember correctly I think my Verizon Blackberry would still detect a SIM inserted even when it wasn't unlocked. It just wouldn't logon to a GSM network.
I'll check to see how the R800a and R800x boards differ with their sim slots. If it's indeed unsoldered it will be obvious by looking.
Does anyone know if there is a hidden system menu on the Xperia Play like how some Galaxy Devices have to enable different radio frequencies, gsm/cdma etc? My thinking..if there is such a menu Verizon and Sony won't say anything about it.
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Did you ever get the phone to take apart and check?
Bump......
Any update on this? Its been almost 2 months so I doubt it. But still like to know. Would love to activate the sim card slot on my R800x.
It can't be done it's already been talked about over in q&a or general section one of the two that's why this thread is dead in the water
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My friend thought he bricked his phone and wanted to throw it away but i talked him into giving it to me. So when i got itthere was nothing on his phone internal and nothing on his sd card. So am guessing it was bricked but i was able to get into hboot mode so i thought its not brickied so i downloaded a lot of rom and all that good stuff and i came across onnthat worked its even on ics but the thing is i cant get signal so am gonna mess with it some more and see if i cant get a signal i will up date later tonight seeing that am exicited and cant sleep i might have a new rezound for sale later on ebay :0
still no signal
does anyone know how to get signal back after ics update
There's no official ICS update, so if the phone is on ICS then it's running one of the ROMs a dev made. Look in
Settings > About Phone Software Information > More
and see if you can tell which one and then check that thread and see if there's been any signal issues. Mine has the ROM name under "Build Number".
still the same
does yours have a signal and texting or i mean a fully fuctional phone
Do you have an activated SIM chip in it? If not then there's your answer.
signal
Ive read about getting a new radio for signal now Ive used google xda and other forums but have now idea on how to get a new radio would you now how to get one for the htc rezound. I found a page but didnt want to download because it said could give you black screen and I dont want that agian. If you can give me the radio number from your phone so I can download the right one PLZ.
OH YEAH
when I go to the HBOOT screen and it scans file in grenn letters one always comes out PH98DIAG.NBH no image or wrong image what does that mean do you know. sorry for all the ?s but I am new and this is fun learning all this stuff.
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YES the sim is in there and it is active using mine from my phone Ive tried everything from removing the sim and putting it back in and rebooting and the back cover is on
Your best bet would be to flash a GB kernel, or if you're on a GB kernel you should flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467329 . It includes the firmware update that will update radio, hboot etc.
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YES the sim is in there and it is active using mine from my phone Ive tried everything from removing the sim and putting it back in and rebooting and the back cover is on
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If you are using 4g sim from another phone it won't work. The Verizon sim cant be swapped out like gsm sims IIRC
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jmztaylor said:
If you are using 4g sim from another phone it won't work. The Verizon sim cant be swapped out like gsm sims IIRC
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^Forgot to mention this derp. But he is correct, you would need a new sim that they would program for the rezound.
I'm a noob here, but other places i'm not. I have read VERY many posts and the gist of owning a thunderbolt is that it only work(ed) on CDMA VZ so it is not compatible with GSM although it has a SIM card because its is/was locked to VZ only frequencies.
Just to make sure, I called VZ to attempt to get an unlock code saying I was going on a trip overseas and needed my phone to work. I was told that if I upgraded via the OTA to ICS, my device would then be compatible with GSM and I could simply use any SIM card in my phone and get it to work.
What I am trying to do is move over to straightalk away from VZ.
Instead of unrooting, I flashed the radios and ROM available on this site and ICS is up and running.
So has anyone tried straight talk yet on ICS?
That doesn't sound right to me but I would be interested in finding out whether or not it works. From what I understood about the antenna in this phone is that it is locked in on the 700mhz band at a hardware level. Also there are no settings to change to GSM in the network settings.
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Hmmm. Don't know why tech support would lie though -- especially when I waited online for about 30 minutes throughout the conversation. I've been a customer since 1997. He even said, after I switched to ICS, simply insert new SIM and I'm ready to go.
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That doesn't sound right to me but I would be interested in finding out whether or not it works. From what I understood about the antenna in this phone is that it is locked in on the 700mhz band at a hardware level. Also there are no settings to change to GSM in the network settings.
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They may not be lying but rather don't know what they are talking about lol. They are wrong all the time. Just because we have a sim doesn't mean that putting a gsm sim in makes it possible to use on other networks. Give it a try maybe they finally did make it possible. Like I said I thought at a hardware level this phone was permitted from using gsm bands.
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RE: Thunderbolt to straight talk
Granted, they may be wrong. But, all the many hours of reading I have done, says that CDMA only phones don't have SIM cards and my TB does. And per another posts GSM in the USA operates on more frequencies than abroad. Why would HTC create a phone with a SIM card if there was no reason because it was only CDMA?
Regardless, I purchased a ST SIM and an unlimited plan to try out. I'll post back after I see if I wasted my $$$ or not.
The LTE frequency Verizon uses is actually a GSM which is one reason. Verizon owns the upper c block of the 700mhz spectrum. Also, because Verizon is originally a CDMA carrier they had to use another antenna in all LTE phones in order for them to function. The LTE antenna uses data only. It is not equipped to make phone calls unless a phone call is already in progress in which case the phone is routed through the LTE antenna and is then made over the data connection much like VoIP.
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disconnecktie is right, the Thunderbolt can not connect to GSM services. The sim card is not a GSM sim card, its is a 4g LTE sim card. Just because its called a sim and looks similar, does not mean they are the same. The guy you spoke with on the phone probably knew nothing about the Thunderbolt and just assumed that because it has a sim card it would connect to GSM networks.
understandably.
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disconnecktie is right, the Thunderbolt can not connect to GSM services. The sim card is not a GSM sim card, its is a 4g LTE sim card. Just because its called a sim and looks similar, does not mean they are the same. The guy you spoke with on the phone probably knew nothing about the Thunderbolt and just assumed that because it has a sim card it would connect to GSM networks.
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"The LTE antenna uses data only. It is not equipped to make phone calls unless a phone call is already in progress in which case the phone is routed through the LTE antenna and is then made over the data connection much like VoIP."
So theoretically, if there is an LTE only antenna....how does a call get routed regularly when LTE networks (such as 1G and 3G) occur when LTE network isn't available to pass the information over the data connection? More than one antenna?
I'm not expecting this card to work in and of itself. I'm going to swap out another GSM to see if after ICS upgrade, it is actually opened as promised. Now if it doesn't have the requisite antenna, that's understandable, but in that case, why theoretically couldn't I just get a GSM antenna and swap it out for the CDMA one? Can't be any worse than replacing a wireless card in a laptop?
Based upon the "answer" given to me by VZ tech support, I have to wonder if there really is a different antenna or simply the "sim" card installed locks it into the frequency -- and the OS lock(ed) into the sim card previously. A SIm card is essentially what allows you to communicate with a carrier afterall.
Definitely interested if this works, thanks for attempting this
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All the LTE sim does is authenticate your phone on the network. That is the reason *228 is no longer needed.
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The thunderbolt does not support GSM. It has 3 radios, two 3g cdma which enables svdo or simultaneously voice and data over 3g. FYI some new 4g phones won't do this. The LTE is data only and no phone calls are placed over LTE on any phone for vzw. VZW is not setup for voip yet and that won't start until at least 2014. The thunderbolt is not global ready even with ics. There is no apn info to edit. This all has been discussed many times over the last two years.
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Just to clarify I wasn't saying the thunderbolt uses VoIP but that svdo is similar is all.
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Just to clarify I wasn't saying the thunderbolt uses VoIP but that svdo is similar is all.
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I'm no cell tech and I get what you were trying to say. I apologize the last part of my post was a little rude. I don’t think voip and svdo are even close, I admit I could be wrong. Voip uses a data connection to place calls while svdo uses the cellular connection for calls and data. If you place the phone into airplane mode, connect to wifi you would not be able to place a call. If you had voip you'd be able to place a call. I know many carriers offer some sort of 3g to network extender that creates a similar type of connection.
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Svdo also makes it so that calls can be placed over 4g when it is present which is like VoIP. Either way I know it isn't exactly the same but was merely using VoIP for a comparison.
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Svdo also makes it so that calls can be placed over 4g when it is present which is like VoIP. Either way I know it isn't exactly the same but was merely using VoIP for a comparison.
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In my original post above I incorrectly used VoIP when I should have used VoLTE, I knew what i wanted to say, but used the wrong terms which can lead to confusion and this is all to the best of my understanding
The Thunderbolt as with all 3G cell phones make phones calls over 1x voice network while data is handled by 3G network. The thunderbolt does not make any phone calls over 3G or LTE, it has multiple radios which allow SVDO, a 1x for voice calls, a 3G radio, and a LTE radio. Calls are placed over 1x and data is handled by 3G or LTE whichever is available.
The link below has a good discussion and more clarification on the Thunderbolt when it was first released.
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunde...ort-voice-over-lte-when-verizon-launches.html
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The thunderbolt does not support GSM. It has 3 radios, two 3g cdma which enables svdo or simultaneously voice and data over 3g. FYI some new 4g phones won't do this. The LTE is data only and no phone calls are placed over LTE on any phone for vzw. VZW is not setup for voip yet and that won't start until at least 2014. The thunderbolt is not global ready even with ics. There is no apn info to edit. This all has been discussed many times over the last two years.
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I realize that it has been "talked" about. But based upon conversations with VZ support perhaps it was time to rehash it based upon what I was told.
As far as the APN to edit -- after ICS update (non over the air -- the one provided here). See screenshot. There is even a folder created on the SD called APN Backup restore.
My phone is rooted using revolutionary and running the ICS deodexed, etc. found on xda-developers.
Based upon what I was told by VZ tech support, I purchased a ST test SIM with unlimited service. I installed it today and get SIM card is from an unknown source. I googled that and it appears to be locked. I thought I was unlocked and rooted using revolutionary. But now I question that. So am I truly unlocked like I thought I was? I then tried getting the unlock code using fastboot as per instructions on HTC's development site using oem get_identifier_token waiting for device, and I get stuck at "waiting for device" with no information ever coming up. The only way I appear to be able to communicate w device using ADB is by letting the phone boot then connecting it via usb using debugging mode, and always awake, then it appears as a device, but that's where I get that waiting for device message.
Meanwhile, with the ST card in it's downloading email. I just cannot send.
wrkrbee said:
I realize that it has been "talked" about. But based upon conversations with VZ support perhaps it was time to rehash it based upon what I was told.
As far as the APN to edit -- after ICS update (non over the air -- the one provided here). See screenshot. There is even a folder created on the SD called APN Backup restore.
My phone is rooted using revolutionary and running the ICS deodexed, etc. found on xda-developers.
Based upon what I was told by VZ tech support, I purchased a ST test SIM with unlimited service. I installed it today and get SIM card is from an unknown source. I googled that and it appears to be locked. I thought I was unlocked and rooted using revolutionary. But now I question that. So am I truly unlocked like I thought I was? I then tried getting the unlock code using fastboot as per instructions on HTC's development site using oem get_identifier_token waiting for device, and I get stuck at "waiting for device" with no information ever coming up. The only way I appear to be able to communicate w device using ADB is by letting the phone boot then connecting it via usb using debugging mode, and always awake, then it appears as a device, but that's where I get that waiting for device message.
Meanwhile, with the ST card in it's downloading email. I just cannot send.
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers. You should really do some research, you will find that the thunderbolt will somewhat work on straight talk for a little while, then they will kick you off the network. Just google it instead of questioning everything people say here as they are just trying to help you and you seem to want to do nothing but argue anything that is said.
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers. You should really do some research, you will find that the thunderbolt will somewhat work on straight talk for a little while, then they will kick you off the network. Just google it instead of questioning everything people say here as they are just trying to help you and you seem to want to do nothing but argue anything that is said.
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First off, I'm not trying to "argue" with anyone. If these forums are not to ask questions, then what are they for? With that said, as I previously stated, I have spent HOURS which have amounted to DAYS reading not only the forums here and elsewhere and the information conflicts -- and I may have updated information who the heck knows. You never know when there is false information out there floating around and when it becomes outdated -- and the only way to update that information is by sharing upon these types of forums, I would think. You take your car to an automechanic and he tells you the entire transmission needs to be changed, do you just say ok or do you ask questions until you can fully understand the scope, do you do research, and if that research conflicts, do you ask for a second opinion or simply tell him, ok, go ahead and change it?
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers.
And as far as unlocked by Verizon, I followed a post until I reached an HTC forum indicating it can be unlocked for all carriers....by replacing the carrier OEM identifier token with an unlock code in binary format from HTC. See what I have pritned and attached.
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I think your issue is you read too much into this. Yes, your phone cane be unlocked, it can run on other carriers and networks.
Your phone can however only use CDMA carriers and networks. Just because it can be unlocked does not mean it can be used on networks that do not support the hardware your phone was made with. nothing can be done with software to change that.
Your second problem is, you are misunderstanding terms, and HTC them self are not helping this. The PDF files you linked say unlocking, they refer to unlocking the bootloader, meaning you gain S-off (you can flash files) The unlocking you are questioning here is to get your phone working on another network.
Those 2 things are entirely different.
A phone is designed to work on specific frequencies when it is designed. Some phones are CDMA phones, some are GSM phones, and some are global (they use both). This is a hardware thing. Nothing changes this once the phone has been made. Our Thunderbolts are CDMA phones, unfortunately we can not just up and go to AT&T or anywhere we want with this phone.
I am sorry for being argumentative with my last post, you are right this is a place to discuss issues like this.
If you search for StraightTalk you'll find that it may be both CDMA and GSM supported depending on where you live. If you search for Thunderbolt other carrier you'll find that some people have had limited success with missing functions getting it to work on other carriers.
If Your switching to another carrier, buy a phone for that carrier or a global phone. It's a lot of work getting a phone to work on another carrier and you can get a smartphone better than your thunderbolt for a low price on a MNVO. If your dead serous on taking your thunderbolt to another carrier it loks like Page plus is going to be your best bet. USE EXTREME CAUTION when flashing your phone as you could brick it and it would do you no good at all.
i bought a new DNA from soemone. he used it once hated it so he sold it to me. i am still on a 3g phone. and i had a 4g sim card that was able to get activated. BUT, i could not ever get my DNA fully activated. it never would show my phone number on the about screen. it was all zeros. after about 2 hours with tech support, 2 sim cards (that i had already), 2 factory resets they are trying one more thing, shipping me a new sim card. they dont think it is a hardware issue since i do get a 3g signal, i can recieve data but cannot make calls nor get them...another strange thing is i can get texts but cant send them. the techs (2 different ones) think it is somehting with the "system"
the ONLY thing i never told them was right when i got the phone, i used moonshine to get s-off and installed a custom rom....would unlocking teh bootloader etc BEFORE i activated the phone cause this? jsut to be safe i restored to 100 stock LOCKED so when i get my new sim i will be able to try from scratch
anyone else ever have this issue? i wish i would of activated it the say i got it when it was 100% stock..
thank you
Moonshine should have no affect of activating your phone.
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Moonshine should have no affect of activating your phone.
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Are you on a custom rom? I have had problems on other phones if I was running a custom ROM and then switched sims - the new sim/phone number wouldn't activate.
dvigue said:
i bought a new DNA from soemone. he used it once hated it so he sold it to me. i am still on a 3g phone. and i had a 4g sim card that was able to get activated. BUT, i could not ever get my DNA fully activated. it never would show my phone number on the about screen. it was all zeros. after about 2 hours with tech support, 2 sim cards (that i had already), 2 factory resets they are trying one more thing, shipping me a new sim card. they dont think it is a hardware issue since i do get a 3g signal, i can recieve data but cannot make calls nor get them...another strange thing is i can get texts but cant send them. the techs (2 different ones) think it is somehting with the "system"
the ONLY thing i never told them was right when i got the phone, i used moonshine to get s-off and installed a custom rom....would unlocking teh bootloader etc BEFORE i activated the phone cause this? jsut to be safe i restored to 100 stock LOCKED so when i get my new sim i will be able to try from scratch
anyone else ever have this issue? i wish i would of activated it the say i got it when it was 100% stock..
thank you
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I have had issues activating a phone that was rooted with Verizon- Verizon could not activate my phone until I went back to stock and un-rooted
Had a Rezound from Asurion running 4.03.605 and Hboot 2.27. All was well. Left Los Angeles on 12/21. Arrived the next day in the Bay Area on 12/22. And since then? Not able to make or recive a call. All else works: 4G, internet, texting. Just calls. On the phone with Verizon for 1 hour, resettting all data info to my account and phone, no luck. Two hours in store getting new SIM and resetting system...no luck. Another Asurion replacement sent....new SIM card and THE SAME THING! Issue was escalated to Verizon networking team and I spent two hours on the phone yesterday trying to determine issue. Now if the SIM card and all matching items (IMEI) matched up, it should all work, right? The same SIM card was put into two different rezounds...one rooted, one not (fresh out of box) and neither could make a call. The tech finally stated that the software on the phones was the global leak of 4.03 and not a release authorized by Verizon...my reaction - "What?" The tech went so far as to suggest installing the last global leak - 4.05 and new radios and see what happens. Did just that...AND STILL NOTHING. Phone is perfect. Just no phone. Call goes out, connects, then lost. Same for incoming. No one seems to have a solution except blaming the phone software, tower differences between here and L.A....on and on. I find it all BS....because if the plder 4G SIMS are not compatibile, wouldn't many people across the USA have issues? So I come to ask for some of your thoughts. I am plagued right now. Have lost income due to my lack of access and reachability. And being two months shy of my anniversary for an upgrade, the great Corporation will not budge and get me a new working phone. This is a nightmare. I only imagine that as soon as I get back to Los Angeles, the phone will "miraculously" work again.
FYI: I had my original Rezound running 4.05 and Hboot 2.28 back in July 2013...came to the same trip LA->Bay Area. Never had a problem.
Thanks for your time all!
New Sim and different phone with same issues really points to the issue being with the carrier... Not much you can do unfortunately.
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acejavelin said:
New Sim and different phone with same issues really points to the issue being with the carrier... Not much you can do unfortunately.
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Thanks, ace. Try geting Verizon to understand that...now that's the a whole other issue. Wish me luck!
gjrscribe said:
Thanks, ace. Try geting Verizon to understand that...now that's the a whole other issue. Wish me luck!
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ust outta curiosity...do you have data roaming and everything enabled under mobile network settings...that would be my only guess....if not then yes it is verizon...the fact that on 2 seperate phones there is an issue is what gives it away...there is a leaked hboot and radios of hboot 2.28 and the 2.23 radios but idk if this will help your issue
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ust outta curiosity...do you have data roaming and everything enabled under mobile network settings...that would be my only guess....if not then yes it is verizon...the fact that on 2 seperate phones there is an issue is what gives it away...there is a leaked hboot and radios of hboot 2.28 and the 2.23 radios but idk if this will help your issue
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Of the two phones I have in my possesion, one is total stock 4.03.605.....wiped it clean. No calls. The other phone I hacked with Hboot 2.28 and the current radios + 4.05 software....still nothing. A lot of what the senior tech told me is that no phones use those big old SIM cards anymore. Heck, he couldn't even find ONE store that a similar phone I could swap my SIM into in order to see if a call could be made. 1 week now with no phone and no restitution from Verizon. All they want to do is seed me to the Edge program. No dice. I'm fighting this to the end It's clear as day this problem is WAY beyond my control or the phones....all on VZW.
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Of the two phones I have in my possesion, one is total stock 4.03.605.....wiped it clean. No calls. The other phone I hacked with Hboot 2.28 and the current radios + 4.05 software....still nothing. A lot of what the senior tech told me is that no phones use those big old SIM cards anymore. Heck, he couldn't even find ONE store that a similar phone I could swap my SIM into in order to see if a call could be made. 1 week now with no phone and no restitution from Verizon. All they want to do is seed me to the Edge program. No dice. I'm fighting this to the end It's clear as day this problem is WAY beyond my control or the phones....all on VZW.
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OR....you can get a micro sim from them and buy a microsim to normal sim adaptor like this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Small-Min...-Adapter-For-iPhone-4-4S-4GS-4th-Gen/28911641 ....im actually doing this currently with a straight talk microsim in the rezound....but again did you ensure all roaming settings are enabled under settings>mobile networks
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OR....you can get a micro sim from them and buy a microsim to normal sim adaptor like this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Small-Min...-Adapter-For-iPhone-4-4S-4GS-4th-Gen/28911641 ....im actually doing this currently with a straight talk microsim in the rezound....but again did you ensure all roaming settings are enabled under settings>mobile networks
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Done it all with the roaming settings, thanks. But as we all surmise, it's Verizon's problem...old phone can't connect with current networks. They need to admit this and get me a new phone.
8 days with no phone capability and counting.
Just tell then it's your work phone, and that you need it for your job or else. Even most prepaid companies like SraightTalk would replace it of it was your work phone. ST even upgrades you, because it is their fault and not yours.
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if u use another sim its not working ?
its sounds like hw problem
Proz00 said:
if u use another sim its not working ?
its sounds like hw problem
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Two phones and two different SIMs... Very unlikely to have identical hardware issues in two different refurbished phones that is region specific.
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