Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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Sounds like you got some pretty nasty wakelocks, use BetterBatteryStats and try to locate the issue. Or something is wrong with the set-up of your phone. Check and recheck!
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tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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without root it will be difficult to (1) find the battery drainer and (2) backup data.
should you decide to root you could use BetterBatteryStats as mentioned and for backups (1) Titanium Backup (Apps & data) and (2) a CWM nandroid (full phone backup with anything on it).
tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands.
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I have got exactly the same problems as you, it started a few days ago so I'm guessing some app update has screwed something. The symptoms I'm seeing are:
Battery drains from 100% to flat in about 4 hours without any phone use and while screen is off (normally lasts easily 24 hours).
Phone is warm to the touch (not hot, but warm) even when idle.
Long delays in processing Bluetooth button presses through to my audio app (~45 seconds for PowerAmp to respond), and also similar with my three-button cabled headset button presses.
15-30 second delays in updating widget icons on homepages (e.g. wi-fi on/off icon status changing, NFC Task Launcher's 'last used' wording on the widget, etc).
Delays in clock updating (the system clock in the upper-right of info bar).
Battery info for Android System shows the "Stay awake" time is almost as long as the current "phone on battery" time. So something seems to be wakelocking and stopping it going to sleep properly.
I'm going to check more now to see if I can find the culprit, but if anyone knows anything about this, please could they post here too? Thanks.
Andre
(Samsung ICS 4.0.4 ROM, rooted)
One clue for some identical posts may be an app not sourced from the market is in fact a trojan .
jje
JJEgan said:
One clue for some identical posts may be an app not sourced from the market is in fact a trojan.
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It's always possible, but I doubt it. I'm pretty careful about the source of what I install and check that apps are the genuine item rather than trojan copies. I do install some betas from known xda developers, but I trust them fully. Nothing new was installed around the time when this started anyway.
Attached wakelock info is for the last 3 hours since phone was charged. I'm aware of a possible DHCP-searching issue with the wlan_rx_wake process, but this problem occurs just as badly with wi-fi turned off too - and as I said, this battery drain issue has only been happening for a few days.
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Battery drains from 100% to flat in about 4 hours without any phone use and while screen is off (normally lasts easily 24 hours).
Phone is warm to the touch (not hot, but warm) even when idle.
Long delays in processing Bluetooth button presses through to my audio app (~45 seconds for PowerAmp to respond), and also similar with my three-button cabled headset button presses.
15-30 second delays in updating widget icons on homepages (e.g. wi-fi on/off icon status changing, NFC Task Launcher's 'last used' wording on the widget, etc).
Delays in clock updating (the system clock in the upper-right of info bar).
Battery info for Android System shows the "Stay awake" time is almost as long as the current "phone on battery" time. So something seems to be wakelocking and stopping it going to sleep properly.
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:\ same here, everything ^
from sunday ;\\\\\
Matthew
Sammmm JB 4.1.2
I wonder what we all have in common then, as it sounds like whatever happened hit us all at around the same time? I'm guessing it's being caused by an app update, I'll see if I can list what has updated on my phone in the last 7 days.
Andre
OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
Andre
andrewilley said:
OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
Andre
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that is mine (red)
i got Gmail on 25.03 and you ?
I would put Facebook and Samsung right at the top of the most likely list!
sk0lm4n said:
i got Gmail on 25.03 and you ?
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Possibly, I got another gmail update today though, so I don't know the previous history now.
I'm on T-Mobile UK as carrier by the way, in case that matters (could be a Fast Dormancy issue or somesuch).
Andre
andrewilley said:
OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
Andre
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I am glad I'm not the only one - my apps in red. I first noticed this problem on Saturday 23rd and it's driving me nuts. I'm only getting 5 hours of use out of the phone because something is preventing it from going into deep sleep. In addition to the phone getting warm as others have said, I have also noticed some other issues:
sms messages take ages to send
clicking the keyboard switcher in the notifications takes ages to show list
clicking refresh on weather widget takes ages before gps icon appears and weather info hardly ever updates. However if you click on the weather widget and open up the full screen it refreshes quickly.
Clicking the software update button to check for firmware updates takes ages to show the popup.
sometimes the screen doesn't turn on instantly on pressing the power button
most other things are performing at normal speed
I have tried various things but still haven't nailed the problem. I used BBS to see what was causing the wakelocks and it had Google+ AlarmManager and LocationServices at the top. I disabled both of these and it helped a bit, but after doing this BBS had a list of partial wakelocks which didn't add up to the total time the phone was awake. I tried uninstalling Facebook and BBC News and that didn't really make much difference.
UPDATE - just uninstalled HD Widgets and keyboard select popup,weather update, software update are now instant again. Maybe this is the problem with battery drain too. I didn't try that before because I'm not actually using any of the widgets so I'll see how it goes...
Solved by uninstalling HD Widgets
Seems to have done the trick. Spends much more time in deep sleep now and gpsd is now top of the list on the Battery usage whereas before it was Google+. Hopefully HD Widgets will release an update soon.
ashmont said:
I am glad I'm not the only one - my apps in red. I first noticed this problem on Saturday 23rd and it's driving me nuts. I'm only getting 5 hours of use out of the phone because something is preventing it from going into deep sleep. In addition to the phone getting warm as others have said, I have also noticed some other issues:
sms messages take ages to send
clicking the keyboard switcher in the notifications takes ages to show list
clicking refresh on weather widget takes ages before gps icon appears and weather info hardly ever updates. However if you click on the weather widget and open up the full screen it refreshes quickly.
Clicking the software update button to check for firmware updates takes ages to show the popup.
sometimes the screen doesn't turn on instantly on pressing the power button
most other things are performing at normal speed
I have tried various things but still haven't nailed the problem. I used BBS to see what was causing the wakelocks and it had Google+ AlarmManager and LocationServices at the top. I disabled both of these and it helped a bit, but after doing this BBS had a list of partial wakelocks which didn't add up to the total time the phone was awake. I tried uninstalling Facebook and BBC News and that didn't really make much difference.
UPDATE - just uninstalled HD Widgets and keyboard select popup,weather update, software update are now instant again. Maybe this is the problem with battery drain too. I didn't try that before because I'm not actually using any of the widgets so I'll see how it goes...
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ashmont said:
Seems to have done the trick. Spends much more time in deep sleep now and gpsd is now top of the list on the Battery usage whereas before it was Google+. Hopefully HD Widgets will release an update soon.
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Great news. I've just removed HD Widgets from my phone too (I've used Beautiful Widgets for some time now so it was a waste of space anyway) and certainly the responsiveness of widgets is much faster, and headset button controls are working instantly again. Battery life I'll know in the morning, as with car Bluetooth controls, but it's certainly looking promising so far.
Andre
andrewilley said:
Great news. I've just removed HD Widgets from my phone too (I've used Beautiful Widgets for some time now so it was a waste of space anyway) and certainly the responsiveness of widgets is much faster, and headset button controls are working instantly again. Battery life I'll know in the morning, as with car Bluetooth controls, but it's certainly looking promising so far.
Andre
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I believe removing HD Widgets did the trick. First I uninstalled all apps that I didn't need or hadn't used in a while. Secondly I tried to uninstalling all Samsung apps, but as I am not rooted, no success. Sammy apps was my prime suspect as they had just updated. None of it changed the battery drain. I also had battery drain of about 20-25% per hour without phone usage.
It was HD Widgets that was causing problems, uninstalling helped. Afterwards, I can now see the battery curve steepness flattened quite dramatically afterwards. The awake process bar in the battery explanation is no longer solid. The phone made it through the night without any problems.
Thank you guys, much appreciated
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HD Widgets have just released version 3.9.1 according to Google Play, which is trying to address the battery drain issue. If anyone here has not yet uninstalled the app, could they try this update first and see if that resolves the problem as the devs are looking for confirmation?
(I can confirm that the March 23 update to HD Widgets was definitely the killer by the way - after I removed it last night, my phone had only dropped to 90% battery this morning after 7 hours asleep, and responsiveness and control buttons are all back to normal)
Andre
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Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
Is there a widget to switch from 3G to 2G?
no, that is not a setting that can be done on a widget. all the ones that are around and claim to do it just jump you straight into mobile settings so you can toggle it yourself in two clicks instead of four....
But there is the Mobile Network one - HTC built in - when that is turned off, you can still get calls, and send txts. I use this toggle to do that - also can you not set a shortcut to do 3g to 2g only using bettercut? I'm sure you can, because you have that option in settings and bettercut can make a shortcut to any settings toggle.
Dayzee
Edit - Bettercut doesn't work with Hero Well, certainly not for creating and adding a shortcut to a system setting - will let the devs know...
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
Toggle Settings is a good app for controlling Daisys suggestions above, taskiller or Advanced Task Manager are essential for closing unwanted apps.
Couple of notes about apps that close stuff down like Taskiller and Task Manager - they can slow your fone down immediately after an end all, as the apps that need to run like TouchFlo have to restart - which they do, all by themselves - but it makes the fone prone to laggyness and force closing if you try to open stuff straight after.
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
Also there were reports that one of the Taskiller apps messed with the long press home functions. Not sure on this tho...
Dayzee said:
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
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With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
Ce said:
With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
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Try TaskPanel, it's free and doesn't seem to have any restrictions in its exclude list. You can also add a memory threshold when TaskPanel should automatically kill applications (configured through a separate list). And finally, it registers itself as an ongoing task and starts up automatically.
TaskPanel ist great... Thanks for that Tip. Have it running in the Background and now it Kills processes that are not in my Exclude List everytime the RAM goes below 50Meg.
My Hero is now (almost) Lag-Free.
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Background data? As in what? Mobile network?
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Surely that disables all the sync services etc which is really what the phone is all about!
Also the Market won't work unless background data is enabled... It will save battery but a said, many services won't work unless you update manually.
I switched this off when in France so I didn't eat up my roaming data bundle.
The Jones said:
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
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Ive also noticed this also with the people widget after i removed it as well as the Clock # 8 it severely reduced the lagginess of my Hero
Hi Dayzee & co.,
If you're looking for a good way to save battery power without having to turn wifi on and off manually, check out "Y5 battery saver"
Y5 - Battery Saver is an AndroidTM application which saves your battery by turning the Wifi off in locations where you have never been connected before. The application turns Wifi back on when you are back to known location. It will remember the locations automatically. All you have to do is turn the Wifi on and connect to the known Wifi network for the first time
Really cool, and works like a charm. Ok, you need to have your GPS turned on, but at least that one is useful everywhere you are (except inside buildings, fair enough)... whereas wifi isn't. Furthermore, wifi uses up more battery than GPS.
Concerning Advanced Task Killer (awesome!), you might want to check out this thread if you're sick of having to restart your phone each time you have to sync. In a few words: always put HTC sync in the Ignore list of the program. Unchecking it won't do.
Cheers!
Stop using Peep (set it all to manual update), remove the widget and start using Twidroid.
As well as a huge reduction in battery draw, you'll find your Hero is far more responsive than is ever was before.
The last few days my Hero has not been sluggish and the battery life has increased dramatically. Set to 30 mins update just like Peep was.
Here's my tip, that works really well, for me. I've tried a myriad of task managers, but finally settled for TaskPanel. It doesn't really matter what you use, I suppose, but I found it to be one of the clearest. Furthermore, advanced task killer's and taskillers "kill all" commands seemed to randomly kill the TouchFlo process as well, even though it was "ignored"...
I've come to the conclusion that cpu load rarely is a problem on this phone (in terms of finding a reason to possible lag), unless you are watching videos (which you probably won't, since it appears to be impossible to encode videos so they don't at least slow down a bit every five seconds) or listening to music.
Instead it's the amount of memory you have free for apps to use. I have no idea why, since I also live by the credo "memory free is memory wasted", so ideally my phone would have 5 megs of ram free and everything would work great. Now for some reason, my Hero desktop starts to lag substantially (as well as other gui-elements, such as long scrolling lists) whenever my memory goes below 40 megs.
I always hated the "favourite people" widget by Htc, so I closed it day one. Maybe that's why my htc experience has been pretty positive. I also closed the desktop widgets for SMS-messages and Mail, since they can't show MMS:es or HTML-mail and since they are both ridiculously slow at flicking from one message to the next. I also threw away the novelty clocks by Htc, since they animate too often and that slows down the interface while they are moving. Instead I opted for the iPhone-like clock "digital clock widget". Just don't force kill it, since it will stop updating and you will be stuck with a beautiful clock that shows the right time once every day.
So basically, my formula for a fluid hero experience is:
* Check your free memory with TaskPanel every now and then. If it goes below 50, prepare for slowdown. If it goes below 40, go on a killingspree.
* Register TaskPanel as an "ongoing service", so it shows up in your notification drawer. Now, if you can see your notification drawer (which you can't in the browser), then instead of clicking home to close stuff, open TaskPanel (or whatever) and kill the app you are about to stop using.
* With multitasking comes responsibility. Odds are, if you ever owned an iPhone, this is something you were *****in and moanin about. "Gimme multitasking, gimme!". Well now you've got it and so, learn to use it. Everything that is slow, badly programmed or a resource hog has gotta go, unless you really really need it. Beautiful clock animating slowly? Too bad! Ditch it.
Somebody said Android wold be very good at managing resources by itself and that sounds reasonable. However, I read numerous comments about people finding this to not be the case. Maybe in version 2.0. But for now I'm stuck killing of processes myself. It works for me and makes my UI snappy. And I can keep 3-5 apps running at the same time (that are my own choices, not mandatory apps that come with the UI) without problem. I regularly have babbler, androidirc, taskpanel, market, ebuddy, redditisfun running at the same time without problem. Just kill off apps you are not going to use for a long time.
Ok, sorry to be rambling, but this is my take on the situation. It might get resolved with the Hero update or with the 2.0 version of Android. Don't know, but until then, we need some tools and wild speculation won't solve anything. If you made it through the whole message, I would appreciate your comments - especially any positive experiences you have from "letting Android do its own cleaning". It sounds a little fishy that it would be bad a first, but after about a week, things will get really snappy? What if I boot my phone? Will I have to wait a week again for things to become fast?
-JJ
Speed and battery boosting Tips
Dayzee said:
Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
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turning off allmost every things,then what reson to have a smart phone and spend 600$ for the device better, turn off your hero and keep in the pocket and turn it back on to use...keep in pocket with power off till next use.this is not the sulution .turning off everythings ........rether go with motorola razer v3.
I still don't see the point of using task managers and killing tasks. I just let the OS manage everything for me.
My Hero run very well indeed since I worked out that Peep was a real battery and resource hog.
I've just been for a 4 mile walk and used My Tracks to track the walk, Twidroid, Browser hot linked from tweets in Twidroid, answered a phone call and responded to a number of texts.
Looked at My Tracks a number of times to see what it was doing and to look at the satellite map. I like to point out things on the phone screen to the kids that they can see in real life - geeky but they think its cool.
Kept checking on how fast we were walking etc...
So screen was active quite a bit.
All over the space of 1hr 15mins with the GPS running all the time.
Hero never lagged once, battery used was around 10% (at a guess, maybe 12%).
Overall very impressed.
I'm bone stock with just a handful of apps installed and nothing that should be killing my battery. I've got lots of screen shots here in hopes that someone will be able to tell me what's going on. At noon Eastern, I took the phone off the charger at 100%. Wifi was left on and I sat the phone down on my desk for about 2 hours. I then captured these screen shots.
BetterBatteryStats shows a pretty serious (I think) kernel wakelock.
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After tapping on "suspend_backoff", this was displayed. What the hell is "suspend_backoff"?
Under Partial Wakelocks, this was displayed.
The built in power monitoring shows this.
And tapping on Android OS yields this screen. Clearly, something is keeping the thing from going to sleep.
Finally, this is from SystemPanel and it shows that during the 2-hour period, the CPU was consistently doing SOMETHING. Curiously, however, during the overnight there was virtually no drop in voltage while I slept. I turn off wifi and 3G when I go to sleep so I'm thinking there is something related to wifi that is keeping the cpu cranking.
Sorry for all the captures, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks!
What widgets do you have on your homescreens? Pretty sure "suspend backoff" is time the phone is not able to deep sleep so you definitely have something going on.
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What widgets do you have on your homescreens? Pretty sure "suspend backoff" is time the phone is not able to deep sleep so you definitely have something going on.
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The only "active" ones I have are BatteryLife, BetterBatteryStats and Palmary Weather. I'll delete them one at a time and see if that allows it to sleep. Seeing as the inability to sleep appears to be tied to wifi, it could be Palmary Weather causing the problem, so I'll remove it first.
Thanks for the help!
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The only "active" ones I have are BatteryLife, BetterBatteryStats and Palmary Weather. I'll delete them one at a time and see if that allows it to sleep. Seeing as the inability to sleep appears to be tied to wifi, it could be Palmary Weather causing the problem, so I'll remove it first.
Thanks for the help!
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I would try removing the batterylife widget first. Many battery widgets are known to cause sleep issues. But either way you can start narrowing down the culprit.
I was having that issue with the suspend backoff as well. What sort of widgets are you using, do you have any other battery monitoring apps? (EDIT: I see your newer posts above). I was wondering if the Bettery battery stats was keeping the phone awake. Because after I turned off all the battery monitoring apps/widgets I got better unplugged/screen time.
If it is a wifi issue, try turning the options of Wifi always on to allow wifi to sleep. (In wifi advance options).
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I would try removing the batterylife widget first. Many battery widgets are known to cause sleep issues. But either way you can start narrowing down the culprit.
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I can attest to this. That battery widget keeps the phone awake because it takes 'mah' readings every ten minutes.
Using battery monitoring I went from a 67 to 41 battery life overnight. Last night I froze all the battery monitoring things and I went from a 67 to 64. (But I had some other tweaks as well).
I could be wrong, but I don't think it is either of the battery widgets, unless of course they use wifi for something. At night, with wifi off, the battery voltage stays virtually flat. If it were the batt widgets, wouldn't they continue to cause the voltage to drop?
I removed the weather widget and am letting it sit for an hour or so. I'll report back with the results.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think it is either of the battery widgets, unless of course they use wifi for something. At night, with wifi off, the battery voltage stays virtually flat. If it were the batt widgets, wouldn't they continue to cause the voltage to drop?
I removed the weather widget and am letting it sit for an hour or so. I'll report back with the results.
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I wish I had a screen shot to show you. But one of my battery widgets kept reported every ten minutes with the same voltage (flat) but the phone wasn't being allowed to go into deep sleep. Around -130mah. My deep sleep time overnight was like 8 minutes.
The widget/app I was using was "Battery Monitor Widget". It was definitely keeping my phone from going into a deep sleep. I froze it last night and my battery life stayed constant throughout the night.
You have to figure out why your phone isn't being allowed to go into deep sleep when the screen is off.
Are you using "SmartSync" on any e-mail accounts? I've read that it causes WakeLock in some cases (I think related to how it manages data connections in conjunction with sync frequency).
It has to be something causing the phone from going into a deep sleep. Do you have any eye-popping items from the 'alarms' and 'process' sections of better battery stats? I would check for wake counts more than actual time.
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If you go into 'other' in better battery stats what is your time for deep sleep?
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You might be on to something. Deep Sleep is zero.
From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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Good luck, let us know what the culprit ends up being.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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There is also an option under the advance wifi options for keeping Wi-Fi on during sleep. I have mine checked to 'only when plugged in'.
But I don't think it would be the wifi that keeps the device from going to deep sleep. Something is either syncing or keeping it from going to sleep, hence the suspend_backoff. If it is something syncing you should check your alarm/process counts.
For me I know that the one battery widget was definitely keeping a wakelock.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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We have a winner! This is definitely what was causing the problem. I deselected this option and the suspend_backoff item stopped growing. I left it deselected for a couple of hours just to make sure. As soon as I re-enabled it, the suspend_backoff quantity started climbing again. Thank you very much for your help and thanks for everyone else who shared their ideas. I truly love this place.
Instead of posting screen shots, post a BBS dump. It's in the menu. it contains all the info of the screen shots and more. Make sure you give BBS root permissions too, it'll gather more info (alarms and processes).
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Instead of posting screen shots, post a BBS dump. It's in the menu. it contains all the info of the screen shots and more. Make sure you give BBS root permissions too, it'll gather more info (alarms and processes).
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Thanks for the tip! I'll make use of that next time I have a problem.
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We have a winner! This is definitely what was causing the problem. I deselected this option and the suspend_backoff item stopped growing. I left it deselected for a couple of hours just to make sure. As soon as I re-enabled it, the suspend_backoff quantity started climbing again. Thank you very much for your help and thanks for everyone else who shared their ideas. I truly love this place.
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Good to hear you got it resolved! I have no idea why htc includes this option as i have never seen it cause any performance gains. All i have ever seen it do is cause wakelocks and poor battery life.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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This solved it for me and pretty much gives me back the 50% battery life that vanished when I turned it on.
Many thanks.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 Battery drains heavily all of a sudden. I noticed that suspend backoff is consuming battery. It doesnt go into deep sleep either. I have attached Battery Stats dump file. Please advise.
I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
With the new version, I can't put Google Now on the main lockscreen. It is placed on the lockscreen to the right of the initial lock screen, but I have to swipe to see that, and I may as well just unlock the device, where the Google Now widget is on my home screen. With 4.3 I had that Google Now widget on the main lock screen.
For those who may not have used it, one can swipe left on the lockscreen and view widgets. More screens can be added, although the list of widgets available for the lockscreen is somewhat limited.
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I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
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HD 720/1080p MP4 videos (downloaded HD music videos) stutter occasionally and feel like they maybe slightly out of audio sync. Contrast seems lower and brightness seems to high, faces seem more washed out and seems not as high resolution as previous 4.3 and 4.1.2. I see more blocks and pixelation that I remember.
Beats Audio does not sound as good, less bass and lower highs make it sound noticeably worse especially on headphones.
Weird wallpaper issue when using my own wallpaper. After certain length of time in apps like chrome or newsstand, after exiting, the wallpaper, if not on BlinkFeed, is not extended all the way past the dock. There appears a shadow affect or crop issue were the scrolls bar is. If you scroll to right and back it fixes.
Poor battery life, but this could be an issue with certain apps like Google Plus (it just used my entire 500mb in a couple hours with no auto backup or photo backup).
A little sluggish in certain system menus that you wouldnt think it would be, cant remember which ones, could be while moving folders around.
When WiFi optimization is on, it frequently does not want to reconnect well after leaving a wifi area and returning. It shows connected but speed is very slow.
The HTC Messaging app contact photo issue from 4.3 has been fixed
Personally I think they restricted the memory requirement too much for phones with more than 1gb ram.
I would downgrade back to 4.3 but dont know how
Ive gone from 4.1.2 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 within only a few days so I was kinda familiar with how things worked on the previous versions before I updated to 4.4.2, plus I have OCD)
It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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I hadn't realized Flash didn't work. I don't really use it. It is odd, since the flash player is still installed on my device. Stupid Google...
Got Flash working
I got flash working on my kitkat by using the following instructions:
http://www.cultofandroid.com/49840/install-flash-player-android-4-4-kitkat/
I realized today that the zoom bar for the camera is gone, so now a pinch is required.
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Two issues I'm having:
- When I connect to my external speaker via bluetooth, my wifi speed drops tremendously. Didn't happen before.
- My screen keeps randomly turning on. It's very annoying. Can't find a reason or a setting that could be causing it.
Also (this one isn't really a "bug"), when I plug in my phone, the screen turns on. I remember previous HTC phones used to do this, but they stopped it with the One, which I liked. But unfortunately it's back now
My picture quality is way down with this update. On 4.3 I had the stock camera app and the Nexus 5 camera app on it and they took great photos and corrected the faint purple hue I'd get sometimes. On 4.4 there is tons of noise and color hues even in bright lit rooms! So I'm back on 4.3 for now and the camera is great again.
Battery life is worse for me
After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Thanks. I had already done both of those.
Keep pushing the suggestions. I am trying to see if I can correct without a factory reset.
Well, I seem to have fixed my battery drain issues. I did a factory reset and started from scratch. *gah*
I did do an adb backup before, but it wouldn't restore. So, the upside is I can setup everything from scratch and add apps, etc. one at a time.
no more option to set lockscreen wallpaper......sux
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Hey everyone,
After playing a bit with my Honor battery this week, I realized that my phone barely goes into deep sleep mode.
I have few Power consuming apps running in the background such as Facebook, Google App, Google Play Store, Textra, Gmail or Pebble.
Using tasker I periodically turn on and off the Auto Sync parameter (1 min of auto sync every 30 minutes) and I always shut down all the applications running in the background.
In my previous Nexus 5, I didn't had much of a problem with the CPU Deep sleep but now that I'm on EMUI without Root on I feel like I can barely control anything that's happening on my phone anymore, especially on the battery.
Overall the battery is still correct but I'm just wondering whether I'm the only one noticing this.
Thanks !
If battery life is normal then it doesn't matter. All cpu operate differently, maybe its just how kirin is. If apps are consuming power in background , emui will tell you.
Have you gone through the power saving and background apps managers of EMUI itself ? Maybe there is conflict of that with Tasker.
I just create battery discussion thread, I appreciate if you can post info here , Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/battery-life-discussion-t3196324
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Have you gone through the power saving and background apps managers of EMUI itself ? Maybe there is conflict of that with Tasker.
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Yeah, I'm spending a lot of time checking out the power saving in the background and after a few day it seems that the phone kinda got used to it.
Facebook and G+ are still coming up first in term of power consumption (I actually wonder why every time I kill them, they just come back... even though they're both not synchronized anyway)
I've gotta admit that the on screen time is pretty amazing! The one thing that's kinda scaring me is the background power consumption but I'll try harder to get this right if anything can be done about these app running in the background. (I'll try rooting and grenifying it)
Other than that, yeah the phone last me a good day with a good amount of on screen time!
Is there a way to turn off the notification that says the phone is too hot to charge? I am trying to use Google maps whole charging and the notification keeps popping up and I can't see my screen at all. I need it charging because on long trips the phone would die since maps drains battery fast.
It would not be wise to try and disable that notification. Also how is your s9 overheating? I have never had any heating issues even when im at full brightness, playing music and running google maps at the same time in my car. I recommend putting all your apps to always sleeping in the device maintenance battery saver setting, this will ensure that no other app is doing something crazy in the background and maxing your cpu out. Putting your apps to always sleeping does not disable important notifications such as facebook messages or post updates but will disable apps access to your phones sensors when they are in the background for a couple of minutes, such as step count from galaxy health but u can just not add those apps and they will continue to work fine.
Well I don't want to disable it because I know it will be bad for the battery I just don't want to see the notification because it takes up the whole screen and when I tap it to make it go away it comes back in seconds and I can't see my phone screen
Make sure the phone is fully charged before starting Google maps. It won't get hot then.
Are you using a wireless charger? If so, switch to a wired one. It will generate less heat. Is the phone positioned so the sun is shining right on it? What's the output of your charger? Maybe try one with lower output. I've run Maps on my S9+ while charging many times without issue.
Unpack may be on to something with the idea of background apps eating up battery. I drove from northern VA to southern Delaware (~ 3 hours) using map to navigate without plugging the phone in, and still had close to 50% battery left.
i got pretty good battery usage without high temps. had my phone in power saving mode (limited cpu) and lowering maps accuracy to battery saving.