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Hi i was wonder what you guy think of your device. i am still using my eris but can upgrade anytime now. it is on its last leg, acting up a lot.
My question is if it were you would you jump now with thunderbolt or wait for some of the new devices on the horizon. Not sure how long i can limp my eris along. Was hoping to hold out for SGII.
With your eris, I would just keep crackflashing until something new comes out. I love my bolt and hate it at the same time. I work in a place with barely any cell phone reception which kills battery life. Come the end of october, there will be phones with 720p displays, dual core processors, and lte all in one. Wait for that to come out. I know everyone will say "There's always something better coming out" which is true, but this phone will be next to trash compared to those specs.
So, no, i wouldn't buy this phone again if i broke it today, and needed a replacement tomorrow. I would walk into the verizon store and buy a flip phone to hold me down until then
Ya i am trying to hold out i don't want to make the same two year mistake i made with my eris, jumped in to soon, it suck to be this close to a phone so much better then my eris and no official news from Verizon on upcoming devices.
I love my tbolt but if I were you I would wait. The tbolt is yesterday's news and there will be better phones in the fall. The HTC Vigor has me salivating as does the Samsung GSII.
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I would wait at least until the bionic comes out (or until its rooted) I think there's a good chance that the other phones may get pushed back (even though they have no official release date) I would look at the bionic or vigor, I'd stay away from Samsung and LG.
Considering there isn't any other new device out that supports LTE on verizon that isn't junk (Charge and Revolution), of course I would buy it again. That is, until my contract runs out and/or there's a better phone out as well (which with delays and such could be near the end of the year or early next year).
Would I want to wait for a better phone if my current phone is about dead (as was the case with my blackberry before)? No way. I waited 2 months for the thunderbolt to come out while hack charging my blackberry by applying the power/ground wires directly to the docking charge contacts on it. Screw doing that for any longer.
I have no doubt I'd buy this device again. I came from the dInc, and as deeply as the folks over there have their heads buried in the sand, the Tbolt is a significant upgrade in every measure. As far as I can tell, it's as good as it gets. Sure, you could say "There's the EVO 3D", to which I'd say "Yeah... it's about as practical as a 454 big block in a Chevette. LOTSA power with a seriously lacking network behind it." Nobody bought the Tbolt for it's impressive computational abilities. It's the LTE. It's truly the ONLY HTC with a network behind it that outstrips what the phone can do. I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen. I've been trying to disabuse folks of delusions regarding this thing called Vigor, but nobody seems interested in acknowledging reality. But, I'll spit it out again...
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz. Power requirements to produce stability is strictly a function of scaling process, all other factors being equal. Consequently, you're dual core device will be powering TWO cores identical to the Tbolt's, not at 1.1 volts but up around 1.4 volts or more, assuming a clock rate of 1.6GHz. Now I've looked at stock governors for HTC devices and they usually run 4 steps in clocking for their 1GHz devices; 245MHz, 512MHz, 768MHz, and 1.024GHz under the command of an ondemand governor with seemingly fairly low ramp-up thresholds. Assuming this will be true for future devices, you're looking at a chip that will ramp up quick under even modest loads and will eat power at more than twice the rate of a stock Tbolt. In all likelihood the display won't be anything radically different so power consumption there can be reasonably assumed to be in the same ball park. That leaves is with radios. I've yet to hear of an update to the MDM9600 radio chip that provides LTE connectivity so I'm skeptical radio efficiency will improve. The actual transmitter/receiver is very proven technology largely identical to a GSM transmitter/receiver.
So, for those salivating at the thought of dual core, 48 hour battery life, ultra-fast, ultra-high resolution devices, appreciate that the signs for those devices appearing soon don't actually exist yet.
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I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen.
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz.
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I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
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I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
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The stock battery that came with my dInc was practically worthless. I couldn't count on it to last long enough to go out to dinner. I bought the 3500mAh Innocell a week later which transformed it into a wonderfully long-lived device. The original Samsung AMOLED screens in those were VERY dim. Most reviews took issue with it's lack of brightness, off colors, and it's weird version of white. It was practically useless in direct sunlight. Other Samsung phones of the era also received similar reviews. The new SuperAMOLEDs such as the one in the Charge are a dramatic improvement, but the one in the GalaxyS is identical to the dInc unit and is suffers the same drawbacks.
My Tbolt reaches it's limit at about 1.6GHz and gets VERY weird about voltages much further than that. It's difficult to say why there's such dramatic differences between devices, but I'm tempted to point the finger at on-board caches. Those tend to be more sensitive to speed and voltage than transistors and CPUs in general must be rated based upon their researched weakest link. Normally, the cache is that weak link. In PC's devices with substandard caches simply have them deactivated and are sold as lesser models, such and Intel's Celeron line. Many of those have proven to be overclocking marvels because the weakest link has been cut out of the picture.
I'll tell you what. The weirdest thing happened that made my battery life almost double..... I tried CM7 on it. Got tired of trying to set it up and restored a backup of Gingeritis3D v1.0 Beta6 and ever since then it's been a 14 hour LTE battery. All I can think is there was garbage left on /system that isn't normally wiped and I'd never wiped it or used anything but sense ROMs on it before. Who knows if that even makes sense... Beyond that, I'm clueless, but I'm loving it all the same!
I love my TBolt. I am of the mindset that if you need a phone, get the best one that is available at the time. There will always be something better over the horizon. If you can wait, then do so, but in October, there will be a rumor of something else coming. In the mean while, you have missed out on using a very nice device while putting up with <insert device here> for the next few months. Not everyone can move to a new phone when ever they want too. I can't, so I just make the best decision at the time and stick with it. I needed a new phone two months ago, so I looked at the choices I had. I picked the TBolt, and I have not been disappointed. I was already playing the battery game with my Touch Pro 2, so I took this limitation in stride. I love the power I have gained with the TBolt and have never looked back. The Vigor looks great, and if I could have waited for it, I would have; however, I needed a phone, so I made the best choice at the time. I think I made a good one. No regrets.
If I could go back in time, I'd still get the Thunderbolt. I had some rebooting issues but after the last update it's been pretty solid, and battery life hasn't been as bad as most people like to say. I can routinely get a full day out of it. That said, if I was shopping now I might wait for at least the next batch coming out in the coming month or so. If you don't need a new phone right now, there's always a newer, better one coming out, but you could end up waiting for ever for the *next* new one. Probably the biggest thing I'm left wanting is a physical keyboard, but Verizon has really been slow to get an LTE slider to market -- I'm not aware of any in the immediate pipeline.
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII along with my thunderbolt. While the SGS2 screen is amazing, viewable in bright direct sunlight for me, I don't like the fact that it does not have a search hardware button on it. The weight of the SGS2 is nice too - half that of a TBolt.
However, I would defnitely buy another TBolt to replace my current one since I like the design of the HTC devices best. I bought the TBolt originally since I wanted a 4.3" version of the incredible and am satisfied.
I would buy it again at the same time. If it was now no. The TB will be EOL soon with the TB2 coming out and another one from HTC is coming out.
I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
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I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
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The Thunderbolt is a good phone. It does exactly what it is supposed to do. If you're on stock and get the extended battery, the phone is gold.
When you root and tweak it, the phone is platinum.
Short answer .. Yes.
I would buy the Thunderbolt again. I like mine, it suits my needs perfectly. If you can wait then do it .. there should be some pretty nice new models coming out later. There always is so get used to that. But that also means that phones like the Thunderbolt become more affordable to the masses, soon they will be on Verizons "free" upgrade list. I was in a place where I could not wait any longer and paid a lot more than they are selling for now.
If you are a power user then wait. If not then grab a Thunderbolt for cheap. The difference between these and what ever comes out soon is not going to be that great to the casual user.
Hello all,
I'm currently a Samsung galaxy s2 user, just switched from using the iphone 4 because of all the rumors about the galaxy s2. And till now im impressed by everything it has to offer except its battery life.
I love my galaxy s2, but the only problem is battery life, and thats the main reason im being pulled over to buy the iphone 4s!!..
getting that isnt the problem..
I tried way too many custom ROMS, different kernels etc, but ended up with an average 6-7 hr battery life with heavy usage and that doesnt even involve listening to music while commuting. If i did that as well, im sure my battery wud barely last 5 hrs... which isnt ideal at all, im sure everyone feels the same way... Right now im on stock KI3 firmware, rooted. KI3 is slightly better than what bell gave me as stock - KG2.
now i want some strong points of why i shouldn't move back. I've been an iphone user since the 2g iphone and it was amazing!
Only if i could improve my battery life on galaxy s2 i wouldnt have these temptations to move to iphone again.
Should I move back to the iPhone?
no, galaxy s2 is the best !xD
my battery is very good so i don't care just try some kernels or roms
iPhone 4s is much better than SGS2 IMO.
Better size, better display (imo SAMOLED+'s colours are too cartoony), better resolution, better camera, better audio, much better battery and a much faster processor.
Also, iOS has proper dual core optimizations and actually makes good use of the A5 chip, wheras with SGS2, you'll have to wait for a stable ICS rom comes out.
Despite the negativity of the i4s, I personally think it'll be one of the most underrated phones this year.
But that's just my opinion.
My s2 often gives me 16+ hrs of heavy usage (my phone is from the first batch) my other half got a white s2 a few weeks ago and he has dreadful battery life. Both same firmware ect. Although mine is made in korea both battery and handset. His is made in china. Different colour mainboards too. Mines blue his is green.
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Well just to make the point clear, you will never get your sgs 2 to have as much of a battery life as the IP4S. iOS is simply much better at handling battery life than android.
Now it depends on what you want really. Do you value battery life over functionality/choice?
Personally what do you expect of a phone with a dual core 1.2ghz processor? If you expect 12 hrs now that is simply idiocy. You have a laptop that can do that? I don't cuz mine lasts 2 hrs with heavy usage. I haven't read of any laptop being able to last 12 hrs of heavy usage either. No I don't expect a laptop to have a battery life like that either. Now this is a phone with a processor better than most if not all netbooks, it is not going to have a 8hr+ battery life with heavy usage just like a laptop.
I feel your pain with battery life. Also, screen burn in isshowing its face on mine too. But threw iphone is waaaaaay too locked down to make it an easy choice.
Sounds like you dont have things set up correctly to me or your using some resource hogging apps.
Im on wifi all day, send between 40-70 sms a day, couple of phone calls, tweetdeck auto updating, around 20mins of music (well, podcast, but it is an audio file), auto updating of all my apps enabled in the market and the obvious hour or so web browsing and 10mins or so of minecraft when I sneak off for a break in the toilets and I get home with around 30%
Dont forget, your also comparing a closed up OS which has been around for a fair old while to an open one which is still reasonably new which each phone manufacturer has his way with before chucking the phones out
Im not going to fight the android corner as you admitted yourself you are 'looking for reasons to not move back'. Which sounds as though you have already made up your mind.
If you want to go get a shiny fragile phone with a half eaten apple on it by all means do Glad you've at least tried Android though, your light years ahead of 90% of Iphone owners who live around here lol.
must be something thats killing your battery in the background. I quite easily get over a day and between 5-6 hours screen on time. Longest ive had was 6hr 38 mins screen on.
Download better battery stats and see whats running in the background.
Lawl you all are missing a very important statement in his post. "HEAVY USAGE"
What is heavy usage? Web browsing, playing a 3d game, watching a video, recording a video, taking pictures, etc. So of course he is going to get 6-7hrs of battery life.
I agree with the above post. find out whats draining your battery. Shouldn't be that low...unless you are just sitting on your sofa browsing constantly because your so excited about a new phone like i was.
Also you can buy a dock charger and extra batteries set for cheap together (ankhers set) so you never have to plug your phone into a charger again
But it sounds like you have alot of money to burn...then why not...being in a locked system isnt so bad when your willing to just buy every app and media at premium prices and your happy with the interface
Thanks for the quick reply guys, and yes, i m loving my galaxy s2 as i mentioned earlier. And yes, im a heavy user, around 100 texts, playing 3d games (sandstorm, brothers in arms etc). I barely keep wifi on as i haf 6gb of data which is almost unlimited. and im getting 7 hrs, which apparently seems to be good. If thats the case then I have nothing to complain about...
And in terms of money, lol i dont have any... its just i could get an iphone if i sold this one... no way i could afford to keep both!
Stick to the SGS2 and wait for the SGS3 till then.
Hmm, If were I, I would like the iPhone 4S. The iOS 5's new feature iCloud and iMessenge really attracted me.
And can get many apps for it:
http://www.enolsoft.com/blog/best-free-iphone-4s-apps/
SGS2! iPhone4S is inferior in many many ways. It's a ****ty phone.
/ownership bias
u should wait untill the ICS rom is out. that should improve the battery life, because it will be customized to a dual core processor.
Iphone 4S is quite a good phone, but I'm personally against Apple's politics regarding software and price. I don't want Itunes, no format support like FLAC or MKV, no Flash. Also Android has more customization abilities in themes and menues.
I like the big screen and weight on the GS2. Well, the battery life could be better on SGS 2. But there's a Samsung 2000mah battery available at the moment and you can easily replace the battery.
I have been in the same boat in fact I have swapped my Iphone 4 for a SGS2 three times, until finally I realise that the SGS2 really is a SuperPhone.
The reason you will find battery life not quite as good as the Iphone4, is basically down to the fact the Iphone is not actually doing a lot.
I waited until iOs5 before swapping back to this truly, greatest phone since the HD2, iOs5 really is a disappointment to say the least, you get a pull down bar that kinda copies Android to a point, but fails in the fact with its Iphone basic-ness yet again, the weather links to the most basic of weather apps, the notification animations appear at the top all very nicely, but the top bar doesn't state that notifications are listed within, they tried to match the Androids version but in true Iphone style, didn't leave in the design to allow users to feel its their notifications.
One thing you will never get away from even jailbroken is the fact you are not free to choose...you will never own your Iphone, it owns you, Android on the other hand is the opposite and with the SGS2, its power and freedom is far more adaptable than the iphone4.
I noticed one person mentioning he had gotten a phone which got real warm but he turned it in and got another that ran cooler.
This is my number one concern because it us the reason I am in need if replacing my incredible.
How warm are your phones getting (such as when running 1x or a heavy game)? Please speak yo because I want to make sure I don't live through this again. Thanks
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I noticed one person mentioning he had gotten a phone which got real warm but he turned it in and got another that ran cooler.
This is my number one concern because it us the reason I am in need if replacing my incredible.
How warm are your phones getting (such as when running 1x or a heavy game)? Please speak yo because I want to make sure I don't live through this again. Thanks
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To answer your question, I was just streaming the Jets/Broncos game from NFL mobile, tethering 4G to my computer and downloading a file at 4 Mb/s, browsing the web on my device, and doing some heavy texting. Battery is fine, phone is a little warm, but not near as hot as my Inc got.
The only time I've noticed mine getting really hot is when I'm charging it.
mine gets warm when i'm using it for like 60 straight minutes in bed before i fall asleep. the hottest it's hit was 40 degrees c, which is JUST as hot as my incredible used to hit when i'd do the same exact thing. but it cools down SUPER fast when you stop using it and lay it down on a table or something. i'm not worried about it.
the main reason for a phone getting hot is antenna issues. if the antenna is struggling(communication wise), it'll cause it to work overtime in an attempt to pull in a decent signal... and by doing so, causes the battery to get really hot.
it can either be the phone or the area you are in has signal issues. I'm assuming its signal related since you mentioned 1X. next time you try a 'heavy game', put your phone in airplane mode and see how the temperature is then.
It is nowhere near as hot mutlitasking as the RAZR is sitting on the VZW shelf idling!
When I first got it and was setting everything up, it did get pretty dang hot.
It's a warm phone at times.
My DInc would get very hot if I used it while charging. It would eventually just shut down completely and I couldn't do much with it for a while. I returned it for one that didn't shutdown quite as often.
I haven't had much heat problems in the limited time since I've had my Rezound.
I noticed that when charging the DInc while talking on the phone, or using the Nav it would stay cooler if I removed the silicone case. That got me thinking. Silicone is a pretty good insulator. We use to make mitts to remove stuff from the oven.
How much of this overheating problem are we creating with silicone cases?
Is tpu the same as silicone, heat conducting wise? I only use tpu.
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I have used the Rezound and currently testing the Razr:
Rezound gets warmer due to nowhere for the heat to pipe out. The Razr pipes through the display to keep it from building up. The Rezound gets warmer, since not piping the heat out. I tested the Rezound with my 32gb card and after streaming Flash via 4G and playing N64Oid, the Rezound inside was HOT. Easily as hot or hotter than my Incredible would get with GPS on (that is toasty).
Both device get hot at some point, since 45nm LTE and both using dual core SoCs. The Rezound appears to get hotter, but this is more to do with nowhere for the heat to go.
We will be dealing with the heat and battery life issues until 28nm LTE chips are in devices mid next year (we can hope). The second gen chips should ease the current issues.
Note: The Rezound does not get anywhere near as warm when only using 3G. The 9600 LTE chip is a cookin' inside.
Which is my concern my dinc had severe thermal issues and bootloops once the radio overheats which is about ten seconds into a 1x session. It is simply horrible. I must get a new phone but am concerned about living though this again.
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man, you must've had a bad inc then. my inc NEVER got hot and bootlooped or shut off once in the 1.5 years i've had it.
I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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The Charge is a POS phone ,they literally just threw it together so people could have another choice besides the T-bolt. You pretty much paid $300 for the super amoled + (which imo was the only thing the phone had going for it.. Well it had an okay camera too). So yes if you were to ditch your Charge, and come to the Rezound, you'll be happy you did.
Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
$400 deposit? Holy crap!
If you just go into a Verizon store and hold the Rezound in your hand you will notice a much better build quality, not to mention the camera's are better, screen is better, etc..
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Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
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How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
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How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
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The only thing with the 3G / 4G bit is that if I stay in a 4G area it never switches to 3G. Although, if I happen to stray into a 3G area, it doesn't always switch back to 4G, so I'll have to manually turn the radio off/on, then it kicks back into 4G.
I have noticed if the phone is idle it won't switch automatically. But if I turn on the screen and do something for a minute, it will in fact roll over to 4G.
I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
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I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to hear, may just hit eject on samsung then...nice.
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I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
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Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
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idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
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idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
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i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
msticlaru said:
yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
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Well I got Verizon to roll my upgrade fwd to the 25th of this month (7mos early), so I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the rezound on friday. With the improvements you just mentioned, I think my mind is made up. Better reception and GPS?!? I'm convinced that if I get a nexus, I will sadly realize it has the charge's radios, and then I'll get an ulcer, lol.
reverendbill said:
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
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Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
toby1064 said:
Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
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Indeed they did. My buddy had nasty problems with the 4 Tbolts he went through, and the LG screen sucked. It was all bad choices.
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i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
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Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
I had the Charge and recently got the Rezound. It's like these two phones aren't even in the same league.
Everyone has pretty much covered why the Charge was a lackluster phone especially the choppy performance, GPS lock time and general unreliable nature of it.
My Charge is going up for sale ASAP!
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Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
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I had some lag at first on my rezound, buy it got smoother every day and now is very smooth. It runs circles around a stock bolt and trying to compare is crazy. Build quality I'd this phone is much nicer as well. I think someone just has buyers remorse.
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I went from Fascinate to Charge to Rezound. The Charge is the Fascinate with the Droid name, a lil more ram, super amoled+ screen better camera and 4G. It's ok, but so not worth the $300 they were charging.
Now the Rezound:
Lets see... 4G, 1 gig Ram, 1.5 Ghz Qualcom core2(lol) with Adreno GPU, 720 Super LCD with ppi higher than the iPhone4/4s, instant GPS lock, beats audio and the battery lasts me a whole work day. The T-bolt is a steaming pile compared to the Rezound and the D Charge is a summer 2010 era phone.
Like the title says I'm thinking of switching my the galaxy s4. My main concern is for the battery. I know this is extremely different for each person, but more than not I see people complaint about the battery life.
I average 4.5 hours of screen time and just wondering what most people are getting. I browse the web, do some email and texting and may use Pandora for a few minutes. Not a heavy user, but I do get on it at times.
If anyone else has made the switch what re ur likes/dislikes so far??
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Like the title says I'm thinking of switching my the galaxy s4. My main concern is for the battery. I know this is extremely different for each person, but more than not I see people complaint about the battery life.
I average 4.5 hours of screen time and just wondering what most people are getting. I browse the web, do some email and texting and may use Pandora for a few minutes. Not a heavy user, but I do get on it at times.
If anyone else has made the switch what re ur likes/dislikes so far??
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this may help...probably the reason you've not seen much response. Also, there are a lot of folks hangin gint he Int'l One forums since the phone is so similar in many ways and the Dev is much better over there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243248
For what it's worth, I've got the One (did not come from Galaxy phones, though) and I find the battery life to be good. I regularly get a full day out of mine with moderate use (FBing, occasional streaming video, and hour of google music, 20-30 texts, no haptic feedback, 30% screen brightness -which is more than enough because this screen is so damn bright and awesome). this to me is perfectly acceptable and expected. with light use, i can easily get to 10-11pm with 30% life left. typically I get about 4-4.5hrs screen time with a full charge. but you'll probably just want to browse that thread for more varied details.
mpetruzz said:
Like the title says I'm thinking of switching my the galaxy s4. My main concern is for the battery. I know this is extremely different for each person, but more than not I see people complaint about the battery life.
I average 4.5 hours of screen time and just wondering what most people are getting. I browse the web, do some email and texting and may use Pandora for a few minutes. Not a heavy user, but I do get on it at times.
If anyone else has made the switch what re ur likes/dislikes so far??
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Had an S4 and switched back and forth between the two. Decided to stick with the ONE. Overall the S4 is a beast of a phone, but for me it just does not come close to the overall appeal of the One. The s4 is more raw and the htc one is more elegant. From the looks, the apple like build, and smooth interface, its just more sexier and feels more advanced. If you NEED the larger screen, power, removable battery, etc get the s4, but if you want a truly refined experience, get the One.
The S4 outdoes the One only in some Specs. But when you hold both phones in hand...the One feels much elegant. The boom sound won me over. I hate to be that guy...but the One feels like the Android version of the iPhone "feel" wise. In definition...feels nice and looks nice. Battery life is a coin toss but I'd give the S4 the advantage since the battery is a little bigger. But if battery life is what you're looking for, the Droid Maxx, Note 3, One Max, LG G2 have some huge batteries even though they're not out yet.
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