I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Edit...2.3.6
toby1064 said:
I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Charge is a POS phone ,they literally just threw it together so people could have another choice besides the T-bolt. You pretty much paid $300 for the super amoled + (which imo was the only thing the phone had going for it.. Well it had an okay camera too). So yes if you were to ditch your Charge, and come to the Rezound, you'll be happy you did.
Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
$400 deposit? Holy crap!
If you just go into a Verizon store and hold the Rezound in your hand you will notice a much better build quality, not to mention the camera's are better, screen is better, etc..
voxigenboy said:
Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
toby1064 said:
How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only thing with the 3G / 4G bit is that if I stay in a 4G area it never switches to 3G. Although, if I happen to stray into a 3G area, it doesn't always switch back to 4G, so I'll have to manually turn the radio off/on, then it kicks back into 4G.
I have noticed if the phone is idle it won't switch automatically. But if I turn on the screen and do something for a minute, it will in fact roll over to 4G.
I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
reverendbill said:
I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, that's what I needed to hear, may just hit eject on samsung then...nice.
toby1064 said:
I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Edit...2.3.6
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
voxigenboy said:
Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
zetsumeikuro said:
idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
msticlaru said:
yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I got Verizon to roll my upgrade fwd to the 25th of this month (7mos early), so I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the rezound on friday. With the improvements you just mentioned, I think my mind is made up. Better reception and GPS?!? I'm convinced that if I get a nexus, I will sadly realize it has the charge's radios, and then I'll get an ulcer, lol.
reverendbill said:
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
toby1064 said:
Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed they did. My buddy had nasty problems with the 4 Tbolts he went through, and the LG screen sucked. It was all bad choices.
voxigenboy said:
i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
I had the Charge and recently got the Rezound. It's like these two phones aren't even in the same league.
Everyone has pretty much covered why the Charge was a lackluster phone especially the choppy performance, GPS lock time and general unreliable nature of it.
My Charge is going up for sale ASAP!
zetsumeikuro said:
Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had some lag at first on my rezound, buy it got smoother every day and now is very smooth. It runs circles around a stock bolt and trying to compare is crazy. Build quality I'd this phone is much nicer as well. I think someone just has buyers remorse.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
I went from Fascinate to Charge to Rezound. The Charge is the Fascinate with the Droid name, a lil more ram, super amoled+ screen better camera and 4G. It's ok, but so not worth the $300 they were charging.
Now the Rezound:
Lets see... 4G, 1 gig Ram, 1.5 Ghz Qualcom core2(lol) with Adreno GPU, 720 Super LCD with ppi higher than the iPhone4/4s, instant GPS lock, beats audio and the battery lasts me a whole work day. The T-bolt is a steaming pile compared to the Rezound and the D Charge is a summer 2010 era phone.
Related
Only real complaint I have of my EVO 4G is the poor battery life. Even though I am rooted with a great ROM and custom kernel for better battery, my battery life still doesn't come close to my Brothers iPhone4. My phone dies by end of the day.
I see the specs of the EVO 3D, having a larger stock battery, and dual cores should be more efficient on the OS, and this phone was built around Gingerbread that is better performance than Froyo.
So adding all that up, I hope to God this new phone has much better battery life ?
Sent from my EVO 4G "Myn's RS 5"
Type:
Li-Ion 1730 mAh Standard Battery
Standby Time Up to 355 hours
Talk Time Up to 450 mins
Read more: http://gadgetian.com/9927/htc-evo-3d-specs-price/#ixzz1MklQRVOd
Thanks laf.
I am sure HTC is well aware of the bad press the EVO 4G got on release in regards to poor battery life. So maybe they worked extra hard to make sure the new EVO is improved.
Do you have the original specs for the EVO 4G. Be curious what HTC wrote down for talk time last year.
Sent from my EVO 4G "Myn's RS 5"
EVO 4G
Battery Specifications
Talk Time Up to 312 mins
Web Browsing over 3G Not Available
Standby Time Up to 146 hrs
Type of Battery Lithium Ion battery
I think it will probably the same. It has a bigger battery but also a dual core processor.
fmedina2 said:
I think it will probably the same. It has a bigger battery but also a dual core processor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dual core = more power efficient
not dual power
anyway this thread really isn't useful right now. Since noone really has the phone we are stuck with speculation and specs that can be altered heavily. In theory bigger battery plus dual core sounds like a longer battery life, we really won't know how it compares until release
I wonder how much the graphics will drink that juice. I don't know much about the 3D technology but I assume the graphics will be more demanding and graphics sucks so much power.
toxicfumes22 said:
I wonder how much the graphics will drink that juice. I don't know much about the 3D technology but I assume the graphics will be more demanding and graphics sucks so much power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i would have to agree. Even though the bigger battery i think its going to be the same. my opinion though.
toxicfumes22 said:
I wonder how much the graphics will drink that juice. I don't know much about the 3D technology but I assume the graphics will be more demanding and graphics sucks so much power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was my thought, I mean 3D has to be graphics intense since it's essentially 2 pictures running side by side.
Also higher resolution. Dint really know if that plays a role though.
mattfmartin said:
Also higher resolution. Dint really know if that plays a role though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My understanding of the power usage of 4" of LCDs is like 3-5Watts so I assume that is not that demanding. The LCDs don't burn the battery but the back light will. Again this is my understanding but not based from my knowledge on phones, but that of projectors.
I wish I knew more about phone but I hated C+ programing. I only used it for a Mechatronics class, though it was fun to control the robot and use the technology thats found in $70k cars, It took me 2-3 hour to write the code for a clock cause I can't think like that. cant hit 00:00 or 24:00 and didn't know any built in codes. The code was only about 7-8lines as well so it was extremely small (and easy afterwards).
toxicfumes22 said:
My understanding of the power usage of 4" of LCDs is like 3-5Watts so I assume that is not that demanding. The LCDs don't burn the battery but the back light will. Again this is my understanding but not based from my knowledge on phones, but that of projectors.
I wish I knew more about phone but I hated C+ programing. I only used it for a Mechatronics class, though it was fun to control the robot and use the technology thats found in $70k cars, It took me 2-3 hour to write the code for a clock cause I can't think like that. cant hit 00:00 or 24:00 and didn't know any built in codes. The code was only about 7-8lines as well so it was extremely small (and easy afterwards).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wtf are you talking about? C++? using a robot to program a clock? what does this have to to with the wattage of smartphone screens?
but anyway, The larger battery and dual core processor of the Evo 3D should definitely create a noticeable improvement in battery life. However i feel like 3D is going to seriously drain battery life though. Obviously its not a direct comparison to the Evo 3D but the 3DS is much thicker than the DSi (i assume that means more or at least the same amount of battery) and sports a 4hr battery life lol.
If your that concerned with battery life just buy extra batteries and charger on Amazon I have three. If you can afford an evo you can afford a ten dollar battery and a five dollar charger. Then it wont matter how bad the battery life is.
don't forget to bring a towel!
mayfield103 said:
If your that concerned with battery life just buy extra batteries and charger on Amazon I have three. If you can afford an evo you can afford a ten dollar battery and a five dollar charger. Then it wont matter how bad the battery life is.
don't forget to bring a towel!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you buy a phone if you feel like you have to buy extra batteries to carry around. Plus it has nothing to do with money its just the point that a phone should get you through the day
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Phones have always had this problem. And I would rather carry a couple batteries around than constantly be charging my phone or not using it cuz I'm scared its gonna die on me extra batteries = no worries
don't forget to bring a towel!
Remember the 3D is optional. There is only a few things that are 3D, not the entire phone.
Whosdaman said:
Remember the 3D is optional. There is only a few things that are 3D, not the entire phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that righ there is going to be the key. it's just like having wifi, BT and GPS turned on all the time n any other phone. your 3D usage here will be the key I'm guessing to your battery life.
rrsweet said:
that righ there is going to be the key. it's just like having wifi, BT and GPS turned on all the time n any other phone. your 3D usage here will be the key I'm guessing to your battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
precisely. Its like running a full screen game on your current smart phone. It kills your battery quickly
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
ldominguez1986 said:
Why would you buy a phone if you feel like you have to buy extra batteries to carry around. Plus it has nothing to do with money its just the point that a phone should get you through the day
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I keep a spare battery in my wallet and battery life is a non issue to me. I usually have half of one left after a twelve hour day at work with pandora playing over bluetooth and the screen being on for 4 to 6 hours. Usually I'm looking at the news or using the internet most of the time it's on.
If swapping out the battery is too much work you can always get an extended one but if you're just completely against the idea period then you're best bet is an iphone with its permanent battery.
I have enough to worry about in my life to have to micro mangage my phone killing apps and turning on and off GPS and wifi with an extra battery I can just enjoy my phone.
don't forget to bring a towel!
Hi i was wonder what you guy think of your device. i am still using my eris but can upgrade anytime now. it is on its last leg, acting up a lot.
My question is if it were you would you jump now with thunderbolt or wait for some of the new devices on the horizon. Not sure how long i can limp my eris along. Was hoping to hold out for SGII.
With your eris, I would just keep crackflashing until something new comes out. I love my bolt and hate it at the same time. I work in a place with barely any cell phone reception which kills battery life. Come the end of october, there will be phones with 720p displays, dual core processors, and lte all in one. Wait for that to come out. I know everyone will say "There's always something better coming out" which is true, but this phone will be next to trash compared to those specs.
So, no, i wouldn't buy this phone again if i broke it today, and needed a replacement tomorrow. I would walk into the verizon store and buy a flip phone to hold me down until then
Ya i am trying to hold out i don't want to make the same two year mistake i made with my eris, jumped in to soon, it suck to be this close to a phone so much better then my eris and no official news from Verizon on upcoming devices.
I love my tbolt but if I were you I would wait. The tbolt is yesterday's news and there will be better phones in the fall. The HTC Vigor has me salivating as does the Samsung GSII.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
I would wait at least until the bionic comes out (or until its rooted) I think there's a good chance that the other phones may get pushed back (even though they have no official release date) I would look at the bionic or vigor, I'd stay away from Samsung and LG.
Considering there isn't any other new device out that supports LTE on verizon that isn't junk (Charge and Revolution), of course I would buy it again. That is, until my contract runs out and/or there's a better phone out as well (which with delays and such could be near the end of the year or early next year).
Would I want to wait for a better phone if my current phone is about dead (as was the case with my blackberry before)? No way. I waited 2 months for the thunderbolt to come out while hack charging my blackberry by applying the power/ground wires directly to the docking charge contacts on it. Screw doing that for any longer.
I have no doubt I'd buy this device again. I came from the dInc, and as deeply as the folks over there have their heads buried in the sand, the Tbolt is a significant upgrade in every measure. As far as I can tell, it's as good as it gets. Sure, you could say "There's the EVO 3D", to which I'd say "Yeah... it's about as practical as a 454 big block in a Chevette. LOTSA power with a seriously lacking network behind it." Nobody bought the Tbolt for it's impressive computational abilities. It's the LTE. It's truly the ONLY HTC with a network behind it that outstrips what the phone can do. I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen. I've been trying to disabuse folks of delusions regarding this thing called Vigor, but nobody seems interested in acknowledging reality. But, I'll spit it out again...
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz. Power requirements to produce stability is strictly a function of scaling process, all other factors being equal. Consequently, you're dual core device will be powering TWO cores identical to the Tbolt's, not at 1.1 volts but up around 1.4 volts or more, assuming a clock rate of 1.6GHz. Now I've looked at stock governors for HTC devices and they usually run 4 steps in clocking for their 1GHz devices; 245MHz, 512MHz, 768MHz, and 1.024GHz under the command of an ondemand governor with seemingly fairly low ramp-up thresholds. Assuming this will be true for future devices, you're looking at a chip that will ramp up quick under even modest loads and will eat power at more than twice the rate of a stock Tbolt. In all likelihood the display won't be anything radically different so power consumption there can be reasonably assumed to be in the same ball park. That leaves is with radios. I've yet to hear of an update to the MDM9600 radio chip that provides LTE connectivity so I'm skeptical radio efficiency will improve. The actual transmitter/receiver is very proven technology largely identical to a GSM transmitter/receiver.
So, for those salivating at the thought of dual core, 48 hour battery life, ultra-fast, ultra-high resolution devices, appreciate that the signs for those devices appearing soon don't actually exist yet.
loonatik78 said:
I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen.
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
eraursls1984 said:
I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The stock battery that came with my dInc was practically worthless. I couldn't count on it to last long enough to go out to dinner. I bought the 3500mAh Innocell a week later which transformed it into a wonderfully long-lived device. The original Samsung AMOLED screens in those were VERY dim. Most reviews took issue with it's lack of brightness, off colors, and it's weird version of white. It was practically useless in direct sunlight. Other Samsung phones of the era also received similar reviews. The new SuperAMOLEDs such as the one in the Charge are a dramatic improvement, but the one in the GalaxyS is identical to the dInc unit and is suffers the same drawbacks.
My Tbolt reaches it's limit at about 1.6GHz and gets VERY weird about voltages much further than that. It's difficult to say why there's such dramatic differences between devices, but I'm tempted to point the finger at on-board caches. Those tend to be more sensitive to speed and voltage than transistors and CPUs in general must be rated based upon their researched weakest link. Normally, the cache is that weak link. In PC's devices with substandard caches simply have them deactivated and are sold as lesser models, such and Intel's Celeron line. Many of those have proven to be overclocking marvels because the weakest link has been cut out of the picture.
I'll tell you what. The weirdest thing happened that made my battery life almost double..... I tried CM7 on it. Got tired of trying to set it up and restored a backup of Gingeritis3D v1.0 Beta6 and ever since then it's been a 14 hour LTE battery. All I can think is there was garbage left on /system that isn't normally wiped and I'd never wiped it or used anything but sense ROMs on it before. Who knows if that even makes sense... Beyond that, I'm clueless, but I'm loving it all the same!
I love my TBolt. I am of the mindset that if you need a phone, get the best one that is available at the time. There will always be something better over the horizon. If you can wait, then do so, but in October, there will be a rumor of something else coming. In the mean while, you have missed out on using a very nice device while putting up with <insert device here> for the next few months. Not everyone can move to a new phone when ever they want too. I can't, so I just make the best decision at the time and stick with it. I needed a new phone two months ago, so I looked at the choices I had. I picked the TBolt, and I have not been disappointed. I was already playing the battery game with my Touch Pro 2, so I took this limitation in stride. I love the power I have gained with the TBolt and have never looked back. The Vigor looks great, and if I could have waited for it, I would have; however, I needed a phone, so I made the best choice at the time. I think I made a good one. No regrets.
If I could go back in time, I'd still get the Thunderbolt. I had some rebooting issues but after the last update it's been pretty solid, and battery life hasn't been as bad as most people like to say. I can routinely get a full day out of it. That said, if I was shopping now I might wait for at least the next batch coming out in the coming month or so. If you don't need a new phone right now, there's always a newer, better one coming out, but you could end up waiting for ever for the *next* new one. Probably the biggest thing I'm left wanting is a physical keyboard, but Verizon has really been slow to get an LTE slider to market -- I'm not aware of any in the immediate pipeline.
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII along with my thunderbolt. While the SGS2 screen is amazing, viewable in bright direct sunlight for me, I don't like the fact that it does not have a search hardware button on it. The weight of the SGS2 is nice too - half that of a TBolt.
However, I would defnitely buy another TBolt to replace my current one since I like the design of the HTC devices best. I bought the TBolt originally since I wanted a 4.3" version of the incredible and am satisfied.
I would buy it again at the same time. If it was now no. The TB will be EOL soon with the TB2 coming out and another one from HTC is coming out.
I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
Sent from my A05PTH3ORYB0LT using Tapatalk
Night_Watcher said:
I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
Sent from my A05PTH3ORYB0LT using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Thunderbolt is a good phone. It does exactly what it is supposed to do. If you're on stock and get the extended battery, the phone is gold.
When you root and tweak it, the phone is platinum.
Short answer .. Yes.
I would buy the Thunderbolt again. I like mine, it suits my needs perfectly. If you can wait then do it .. there should be some pretty nice new models coming out later. There always is so get used to that. But that also means that phones like the Thunderbolt become more affordable to the masses, soon they will be on Verizons "free" upgrade list. I was in a place where I could not wait any longer and paid a lot more than they are selling for now.
If you are a power user then wait. If not then grab a Thunderbolt for cheap. The difference between these and what ever comes out soon is not going to be that great to the casual user.
Hopefully this isn't something that's against the rules.
So I have a Droid Incredible and I really like it. I have the extended battery (3500) so I've never had any problems with battery life. A friend at work has a Thunderbolt that he was looking to offload and asked if I'd be interested.
I don't really know anybody who has one, so I'm asking for some opinions here.
Would it be worth the move from an Incredible to a Thunderbolt?
How's the battery life?
Is the extended battery worth getting?
How's the call quality?
The call quality sucks, battery life can be increased to a reasonable level with 4g off and the right roms and kernels. I can't give any info on an extended battery because I don't use them because they are to bulky.
Call quality for me isn't too shabby. Battery life is about the same, maybe a little less. As for the extended battery, my friends wife has it & claims it almost doubled the battery life. Only drawback: bulky as hell. 2 big differences is screen size & 4G capability.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
Battery life, running LTE full time, has proven to be nearly twice that of my dinc. Contrary to popular opinion, the hardware on the Tbolt is a significant upgrade to the Incredible. Not only is the revised core about 25% faster, but the GPU is 400% faster and the RAM is 50% bigger. This equals speed you WILL notice even at stock speeds. That said, overclocking these is far easier, too. Where eeking out 1.19 GHz on an Incredible was an accomplishment, many Tbolts will OC to 1.41GHz easily with some remaining stable at 1.92GHz. Of course some don't do so well, but that's more the exception than the rule. I have mine overclocked to 1.6GHz, running a full Sense 3.0 3D ROM, and getting 14 hours of battery life isn't at all uncommon.
Aside from the obvious size and addition of LTE, the Tbolt is also the only Verizon device that will do both CDMA and LTE data in a call. The Tbolt is already a meaty phone and extended battery make it simply massive. The Incredible was so bad on it's battery it was useless to me without an extended battery. I'd be happier if the Tbolt had more juice, but it's not nearly the battery hog the Incredible was. I can survive a day or more with this device if I had to. The Incredible couldn't do that sitting untouched on a table.
loonatik78 said:
Battery life, running LTE full time, has proven to be nearly twice that of my dinc. Contrary to popular opinion, the hardware on the Tbolt is a significant upgrade to the Incredible. Not only is the revised core about 25% faster, but the GPU is 400% faster and the RAM is 50% bigger. This equals speed you WILL notice even at stock speeds. That said, overclocking these is far easier, too. Where eeking out 1.19 GHz on an Incredible was an accomplishment, many Tbolts will OC to 1.41GHz easily with some remaining stable at 1.92GHz. Of course some don't do so well, but that's more the exception than the rule. I have mine overclocked to 1.6GHz, running a full Sense 3.0 3D ROM, and getting 14 hours of battery life isn't at all uncommon.
Aside from the obvious size and addition of LTE, the Tbolt is also the only Verizon device that will do both CDMA and LTE data in a call. The Tbolt is already a meaty phone and extended battery make it simply massive. The Incredible was so bad on it's battery it was useless to me without an extended battery. I'd be happier if the Tbolt had more juice, but it's not nearly the battery hog the Incredible was. I can survive a day or more with this device if I had to. The Incredible couldn't do that sitting untouched on a table.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Out of curiosity, what kernel do you use? OC to 1.92 GHz stable?
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
I was getting anywhere from 4-10 of heavy-medium use, lite use I get about 14-18 hours and 24-26 hours of almost no use, this is at 1 ghz with LTE always off with BAMF stripped roms and adopt roms (although asop always had more bugs than I care for) all sense based roms I've run I get a couple hours less than that. Out of my 6 t bolts 2 were stable at 1.4, 2 at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 wasn't even stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 music.
You can increase the battery life some but there are things I'm not willing to give up, like email push, that's why I got a smartphone.
ghstrdr1985 said:
Out of curiosity, what kernel do you use? OC to 1.92 GHz stable?
I'm using Imoseyon's 3.8.0 kernel, I think. The one with the smartassV2 governor. I don't run it that fast though. Phone won't support it. I wouldn't even if I could because beyond 1.41GHz your returns start dropping off sharply relative to power being consumed. I run mine at 1.6GHz.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
eraursls1984 said:
I was getting anywhere from 4-10 of heavy-medium use, lite use I get about 14-18 hours and 24-26 hours of almost no use, this is at 1 ghz with LTE always off with BAMF stripped roms and adopt roms (although asop always had more bugs than I care for) all sense based roms I've run I get a couple hours less than that. Out of my 6 t bolts 2 were stable at 1.4, 2 at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 wasn't even stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 music.
You can increase the battery life some but there are things I'm not willing to give up, like email push, that's why I got a smartphone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We've gone back and forth. Our experiences are VERY different. I can unplug my phone from the charger before I got to sleep and wake up 10 hours later and have 80-85% battery remaining. That's with LTE on, all updating activity on, OC'd to 1.6GHz with the kernel mentioned above. This thing would go days on standby, but I can kill it in 3 or 4 hours pretty easy if I'm messing with it literally non-stop.
Thanks for all the information fellas. Much appreciated.
Sent from my Incredible using Tapatalk
if you live in a 4G area go for the thunderbolt.
I came from the dinc and really the only two significant factors is 4G and a bigger screen.
My only gripes with the dinc was (in my experience) the call quality was atrocious. The thunderbolt is a step up in call quality for me.
Battery life is the same for me (I used the evo battery in my inc) but since you are using a bigger battery on the dinc you will see a significant hit.
The thunderbolt is an all around better built phone but I could have totally kept with the dinc if I lived in a 3G area.
If it's free.. do it. if not, save your money and look toward the new line of android phones coming out for the holiday season.
PhillyCheez said:
if you live in a 4G area go for the thunderbolt.
I came from the dinc and really the only two significant factors is 4G and a bigger screen.
My only gripes with the dinc was (in my experience) the call quality was atrocious. The thunderbolt is a step up in call quality for me.
Battery life is the same for me (I used the evo battery in my inc) but since you are using a bigger battery on the dinc you will see a significant hit.
The thunderbolt is an all around better built phone but I could have totally kept with the dinc if I lived in a 3G area.
If it's free.. do it. if not, save your money and look toward the new line of android phones coming out for the holiday season.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get an upgrade in March, so I'm tempted to just hold off and wait till then. But, I REALLY love new toys. It won't be free, but if the price is reasonable, I may give it a shot.
changed my 3.8 battery for a 3.7 and now I dont have the charging/quick drain issues anymore
but my rezound still gets HOT and pretty quick too
anyone have any fixes or ideas?
I'm running an ICS rom...Jolez ICS Sense Redefined-Always Brilliant!
awesome rom...
thanx for any help
Rob
atsoca said:
changed my 3.8 battery for a 3.7 and now I dont have the charging/quick drain issues anymore
but my rezound still gets HOT and pretty quick too
anyone have any fixes or ideas?
I'm running an ICS rom...Jolez ICS Sense Redefined-Always Brilliant!
awesome rom...
thanx for any help
Rob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well first off, what are you doing to get the phone hot? Or is the phone just getting hot sitting idle?
how hot and what are you doing like said before... phones get hot its just normal...
it does not get hot at idle just when I am browsing internet or navigaton or viewing videos
atsoca said:
it does not get hot at idle just when I am browsing internet or navigaton or viewing videos
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well alright then. How hot does your phone get when doing this, temperature wise?
Your device is defective. Had similar issues. Spoke to htc tech a.d confirmed. I used to run temps in the 120's doing simple apps . New unit is great and cool on most uses. Battery life has doubled too.
Hiezenberg said:
Your device is defective. Had similar issues. Spoke to htc tech a.d confirmed. I used to run temps in the 120's doing simple apps . New unit is great and cool on most uses. Battery life has doubled too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know. I can never charge my phone with 4g turned on for more than 10 minutes. It always starts blinking. It would suck to say that my phone is defective. I keep waiting for a fix, but I might have to call this one in and get a new one.
Where does this 3.8 vs 3.7 rumor originate from? I have a 3.8v and have had ZERO issues with heat, what defines hot? Physical heat or CPU/Battery temp?
Hiezenberg said:
Your device is defective. Had similar issues. Spoke to htc tech a.d confirmed. I used to run temps in the 120's doing simple apps . New unit is great and cool on most uses. Battery life has doubled too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uh...last time I checked navigation and browsing the web over 4G will make any phone get hot. Specially navigation. Mine stays very cool all the time, except when doing some decent 4G browsing and specially navigation.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA App
nosympathy said:
Uh...last time I checked navigation and browsing the web over 4G will make any phone get hot. Specially navigation. Mine stays very cool all the time, except when doing some decent 4G browsing and specially navigation.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, every phone I've had has gotten to highest temps using GPS. Its just part of computers, everything gets hot after high usage, its normal. If your phone gets too hot, it'll shut down like a computer would or a rezound OC'd.
richii0207 said:
Where does this 3.8 vs 3.7 rumor originate from? I have a 3.8v and have had ZERO issues with heat, what defines hot? Physical heat or CPU/Battery temp?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, thats not a rumor. Do a search for 3.8v and see all the posts that have been over this. 3.8 has major issues with heat, if yours doesn't consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Also if you do root, stick with the GB roms. ICS roms have problems with charging past the high 80's for battery capacity.
atsoca said:
changed my 3.8 battery for a 3.7 and now I dont have the charging/quick drain issues anymore
but my rezound still gets HOT and pretty quick too
anyone have any fixes or ideas?
I'm running an ICS rom...Jolez ICS Sense Redefined-Always Brilliant!
awesome rom...
thanx for any help
Rob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried another Rom? I remember installing joelz ics sense Rom and immediately started getting heat issues
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA App
I've only gotten temps of 101 after hours of use, I've also had none of the other problems talked about.
Heat
When I called Verizon to see what they could do about my Rezound running hottish (gets to 110 after running Sentinel 3; around 113 in navigation; idles in the 70's), I was told that Verizon and HTC have never heard of these phones getting hot, or heat being an issue, but they had helpful hints:
1) If you are streaming, stop streaming for a while
2) Put on a Vinyl case
3) Buy an extended battery
4) Hard reset
5) Realize it is a computer without a fan, it will get hot
So there you have it. Per Verizon, they don't get hot so your initial premise is apparently wrong. jk.
I tested 2 refurbs. First one shot up to 130 almost instantly, and that's when I learned what real heat was. Second one mirrored my current Rezound # 4; idled hotter on side by side, but temperature increased less when running the same apps. Decided to return both refurbs and keep my current.
I've had the Rezound since its' launch and love(d) the thing. The only "big" problem I had with it was that it would get really hot after awhile during heavy use(especially while charging). Of course tossing it in the freezer for 5 - 10 min would cool the thing back down again(but a hassle).
Anyway, does this DNA get really hot/overheat after prolonged, extensive use? That's my main concern before getting one.
With my RAZR & Galaxy S III I can have them going through heavy use & stay plugged in for long periods with no problems. Seems to primarily be an HTC issue as my old Thunderbolt generated some decent heat to.
No heat here. Thing is a god send compared to the Rezound ( especially battery and heat ).
Although might I ask why you would want a DNA while having its current equivalent ( GS3 )?
Watercycle said:
No heat here. Thing is a god send compared to the Rezound ( especially battery and heat ).
Although might I ask why you would want a DNA while having its current equivalent ( GS3 )?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The s3 isn't equivalent to the DNA. That's why so many people have upgraded from the s3 to the DNA.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
Watercycle said:
No heat here. Thing is a god send compared to the Rezound ( especially battery and heat ).
Although might I ask why you would want a DNA while having its current equivalent ( GS3 )?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was checking out comparison charts/benchmarks, etc & see that the screen of the DNA seems to be #1 out of everything currently on the market. It also performs a bit faster then the GS3. I'm a bit put off by the lack of a micro SD slot but have multiple phones + cloud storage anyway.
Oh and for some reason, by the beach here in San Diego there's signal strength issues with Samsung phones for some reason. I had a Galaxy Nexus and it kept switching from 4G to 3G just in my home(but stayed at 4G on my Thunderbolt & Rezound)... seems this GS3 is also having issues switching from 4G to 3G also.
there is a bit of heat when charging and if you do something intense for a long time...but it really doesn't get that hot...just a little bit
voxigenboy said:
I was checking out comparison charts/benchmarks, etc & see that the screen of the DNA seems to be #1 out of everything currently on the market. It also performs a bit faster then the GS3. I'm a bit put off by the lack of a micro SD slot but have multiple phones + cloud storage anyway.
Oh and for some reason, by the beach here in San Diego there's signal strength issues with Samsung phones for some reason. I had a Galaxy Nexus and it kept switching from 4G to 3G just in my home(but stayed at 4G on my Thunderbolt & Rezound)... seems this GS3 is also having issues switching from 4G to 3G also.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The radio's in HTC phones are superior to Samsung's.
Personal preference, Super Amoled is better suited to android/smartphones. SLCD3 still being gorgeous compared to any other display.
Performance isn't really a question on either phones, couldn't care less for benchmarks compared to real world abilities.
Though our device diffidently gets a stronger signal.
I do like DNA over SG3, for small things, but can't justify another impulse buy.
Most phones will get hot during heavy usage while charging but my phone never goes above 37 degrees Celsius even when charging and I'm a pretty heavy data user