Droid Incredible Upgrade to Thunderbolt? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hopefully this isn't something that's against the rules.
So I have a Droid Incredible and I really like it. I have the extended battery (3500) so I've never had any problems with battery life. A friend at work has a Thunderbolt that he was looking to offload and asked if I'd be interested.
I don't really know anybody who has one, so I'm asking for some opinions here.
Would it be worth the move from an Incredible to a Thunderbolt?
How's the battery life?
Is the extended battery worth getting?
How's the call quality?

The call quality sucks, battery life can be increased to a reasonable level with 4g off and the right roms and kernels. I can't give any info on an extended battery because I don't use them because they are to bulky.

Call quality for me isn't too shabby. Battery life is about the same, maybe a little less. As for the extended battery, my friends wife has it & claims it almost doubled the battery life. Only drawback: bulky as hell. 2 big differences is screen size & 4G capability.
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Battery life, running LTE full time, has proven to be nearly twice that of my dinc. Contrary to popular opinion, the hardware on the Tbolt is a significant upgrade to the Incredible. Not only is the revised core about 25% faster, but the GPU is 400% faster and the RAM is 50% bigger. This equals speed you WILL notice even at stock speeds. That said, overclocking these is far easier, too. Where eeking out 1.19 GHz on an Incredible was an accomplishment, many Tbolts will OC to 1.41GHz easily with some remaining stable at 1.92GHz. Of course some don't do so well, but that's more the exception than the rule. I have mine overclocked to 1.6GHz, running a full Sense 3.0 3D ROM, and getting 14 hours of battery life isn't at all uncommon.
Aside from the obvious size and addition of LTE, the Tbolt is also the only Verizon device that will do both CDMA and LTE data in a call. The Tbolt is already a meaty phone and extended battery make it simply massive. The Incredible was so bad on it's battery it was useless to me without an extended battery. I'd be happier if the Tbolt had more juice, but it's not nearly the battery hog the Incredible was. I can survive a day or more with this device if I had to. The Incredible couldn't do that sitting untouched on a table.

loonatik78 said:
Battery life, running LTE full time, has proven to be nearly twice that of my dinc. Contrary to popular opinion, the hardware on the Tbolt is a significant upgrade to the Incredible. Not only is the revised core about 25% faster, but the GPU is 400% faster and the RAM is 50% bigger. This equals speed you WILL notice even at stock speeds. That said, overclocking these is far easier, too. Where eeking out 1.19 GHz on an Incredible was an accomplishment, many Tbolts will OC to 1.41GHz easily with some remaining stable at 1.92GHz. Of course some don't do so well, but that's more the exception than the rule. I have mine overclocked to 1.6GHz, running a full Sense 3.0 3D ROM, and getting 14 hours of battery life isn't at all uncommon.
Aside from the obvious size and addition of LTE, the Tbolt is also the only Verizon device that will do both CDMA and LTE data in a call. The Tbolt is already a meaty phone and extended battery make it simply massive. The Incredible was so bad on it's battery it was useless to me without an extended battery. I'd be happier if the Tbolt had more juice, but it's not nearly the battery hog the Incredible was. I can survive a day or more with this device if I had to. The Incredible couldn't do that sitting untouched on a table.
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Out of curiosity, what kernel do you use? OC to 1.92 GHz stable?
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I was getting anywhere from 4-10 of heavy-medium use, lite use I get about 14-18 hours and 24-26 hours of almost no use, this is at 1 ghz with LTE always off with BAMF stripped roms and adopt roms (although asop always had more bugs than I care for) all sense based roms I've run I get a couple hours less than that. Out of my 6 t bolts 2 were stable at 1.4, 2 at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 wasn't even stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 music.
You can increase the battery life some but there are things I'm not willing to give up, like email push, that's why I got a smartphone.

ghstrdr1985 said:
Out of curiosity, what kernel do you use? OC to 1.92 GHz stable?
I'm using Imoseyon's 3.8.0 kernel, I think. The one with the smartassV2 governor. I don't run it that fast though. Phone won't support it. I wouldn't even if I could because beyond 1.41GHz your returns start dropping off sharply relative to power being consumed. I run mine at 1.6GHz.
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I was getting anywhere from 4-10 of heavy-medium use, lite use I get about 14-18 hours and 24-26 hours of almost no use, this is at 1 ghz with LTE always off with BAMF stripped roms and adopt roms (although asop always had more bugs than I care for) all sense based roms I've run I get a couple hours less than that. Out of my 6 t bolts 2 were stable at 1.4, 2 at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 wasn't even stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 music.
You can increase the battery life some but there are things I'm not willing to give up, like email push, that's why I got a smartphone.
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We've gone back and forth. Our experiences are VERY different. I can unplug my phone from the charger before I got to sleep and wake up 10 hours later and have 80-85% battery remaining. That's with LTE on, all updating activity on, OC'd to 1.6GHz with the kernel mentioned above. This thing would go days on standby, but I can kill it in 3 or 4 hours pretty easy if I'm messing with it literally non-stop.

Thanks for all the information fellas. Much appreciated.
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if you live in a 4G area go for the thunderbolt.
I came from the dinc and really the only two significant factors is 4G and a bigger screen.
My only gripes with the dinc was (in my experience) the call quality was atrocious. The thunderbolt is a step up in call quality for me.
Battery life is the same for me (I used the evo battery in my inc) but since you are using a bigger battery on the dinc you will see a significant hit.
The thunderbolt is an all around better built phone but I could have totally kept with the dinc if I lived in a 3G area.
If it's free.. do it. if not, save your money and look toward the new line of android phones coming out for the holiday season.

PhillyCheez said:
if you live in a 4G area go for the thunderbolt.
I came from the dinc and really the only two significant factors is 4G and a bigger screen.
My only gripes with the dinc was (in my experience) the call quality was atrocious. The thunderbolt is a step up in call quality for me.
Battery life is the same for me (I used the evo battery in my inc) but since you are using a bigger battery on the dinc you will see a significant hit.
The thunderbolt is an all around better built phone but I could have totally kept with the dinc if I lived in a 3G area.
If it's free.. do it. if not, save your money and look toward the new line of android phones coming out for the holiday season.
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I get an upgrade in March, so I'm tempted to just hold off and wait till then. But, I REALLY love new toys. It won't be free, but if the price is reasonable, I may give it a shot.

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Will battery life ever get better?

3 days in w/ my TBolt and VZW announces the Incredible 2 yesterday, releasing at the end of the month ...
Rumor has it that battery life will be much better than the TBolt, so is anyone returning their phone right now due to battery life or will there be an improvement once new ROMs are released? Is it worth the wait?
maybe it probably will never get any better. i would seriously maybe probably consider thinking about debating on planning on returning your phone.
i dont know what htc/verizon was thinking when they released this. i mean technology like this and i have to charge every day!! unbelievable!
i probably think inc 2 will maybe be better since its a 3g phone.
Read one of the 100 other battery threads.
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3 days in w/ my TBolt and VZW announces the Incredible 2 yesterday, releasing at the end of the month ...
Rumor has it that battery life will be much better than the TBolt, so is anyone returning their phone right now due to battery life or will there be an improvement once new ROMs are released? Is it worth the wait?
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I like the TBolt... And not waiting on a rumor for the Dinc 2
Last I checked, the Dinc2 is a 3G-only device.
I haven't had any trouble with my Thunderbolt's battery life easily getting through a 8hr work day with plenty left over.
I'd say it's an almost certainty. There seems to be a problem/bug with the radio which makes it drain a lot of power in certain areas (my house seems relatively fine, but in town it's not ... maybe certain towers for some reason? No 4g in my area, so that's not it) when you have mobile data enabled. I'm currently at 78% battery with 13h 30m on the clock ... by turning off mobile data in the areas I've discovered where it decides to draw the obscene ~900mA (or some other fairly constant, very high number) when I encounter the "bug", I've managed to essentially make the battery life as long as anyone could expect.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu.
So, I'm thinking future radio software/firmware updates can drastically improve battery life if they discover the cause.
Currently, without the area with the bug (I'm at my house) and screen off, I'm drawing 42-60mA on 3g radio and 40mA wifi. And areas with the bug, it's 700mA minimum with spikes often at 900mA and above.
Seriously, how long would you expect a laptop battery to last? These new smartphone are basically mini laptops. I'd be lucky to get 4 hours out of my laptop. My phone will make through the day with moderate use.
Just my 2 cents
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unremarked said:
I haven't had any trouble with my Thunderbolt's battery life easily getting through a 8hr work day with plenty left over.
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Same here..
Bought a spare stock battery on launch day expecting the worst, but have yet to have to use it. I make it through the day with good use no problem. Today was even better after loading das BAMF 1.3 ROM w/ kernel, overclocked to 1.2GHz as well..
Mine has gotten better over time. Im sure with the next couple updates the battery life will get better. But if you dont care about lte or the bigger screen you might just want to get the incredible 2.
My battery has gotten better over the past week. It's tolerable now. It will make it through a day, which is all I really need.
It's never going to get good battery life though.. there's a lot of stuff packed into this phone and on top of that, the 1400 mah battery is already small for a device like this.
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I'd say it's an almost certainty. There seems to be a problem/bug with the radio which makes it drain a lot of power in certain areas (my house seems relatively fine, but in town it's not ... maybe certain towers for some reason? No 4g in my area, so that's not it) when you have mobile data enabled. I'm currently at 78% battery with 13h 30m on the clock ... by turning off mobile data in the areas I've discovered where it decides to draw the obscene ~900mA (or some other fairly constant, very high number) when I encounter the "bug", I've managed to essentially make the battery life as long as anyone could expect.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu.
So, I'm thinking future radio software/firmware updates can drastically improve battery life if they discover the cause.
Currently, without the area with the bug (I'm at my house) and screen off, I'm drawing 42-60mA on 3g radio and 40mA wifi. And areas with the bug, it's 700mA minimum with spikes often at 900mA and above.
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Last night I unplugged my phone at 430am. Went back to sleep woke up about 730 and battery was at 45% with WIFI on. Don't know what's going on. Some nights 8 hours with 4G on my phone won't even burn 10%. The WIFI thing is puzzling to me.
Can't say for certain, but I've heard gingerbread significantly improves battery life in most phones...
and rumour is, we will get gingerbread official in Q2. (unofficial via cm7 maybe sooner???)

[Q] Would your buy thunderbolt again

Hi i was wonder what you guy think of your device. i am still using my eris but can upgrade anytime now. it is on its last leg, acting up a lot.
My question is if it were you would you jump now with thunderbolt or wait for some of the new devices on the horizon. Not sure how long i can limp my eris along. Was hoping to hold out for SGII.
With your eris, I would just keep crackflashing until something new comes out. I love my bolt and hate it at the same time. I work in a place with barely any cell phone reception which kills battery life. Come the end of october, there will be phones with 720p displays, dual core processors, and lte all in one. Wait for that to come out. I know everyone will say "There's always something better coming out" which is true, but this phone will be next to trash compared to those specs.
So, no, i wouldn't buy this phone again if i broke it today, and needed a replacement tomorrow. I would walk into the verizon store and buy a flip phone to hold me down until then
Ya i am trying to hold out i don't want to make the same two year mistake i made with my eris, jumped in to soon, it suck to be this close to a phone so much better then my eris and no official news from Verizon on upcoming devices.
I love my tbolt but if I were you I would wait. The tbolt is yesterday's news and there will be better phones in the fall. The HTC Vigor has me salivating as does the Samsung GSII.
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I would wait at least until the bionic comes out (or until its rooted) I think there's a good chance that the other phones may get pushed back (even though they have no official release date) I would look at the bionic or vigor, I'd stay away from Samsung and LG.
Considering there isn't any other new device out that supports LTE on verizon that isn't junk (Charge and Revolution), of course I would buy it again. That is, until my contract runs out and/or there's a better phone out as well (which with delays and such could be near the end of the year or early next year).
Would I want to wait for a better phone if my current phone is about dead (as was the case with my blackberry before)? No way. I waited 2 months for the thunderbolt to come out while hack charging my blackberry by applying the power/ground wires directly to the docking charge contacts on it. Screw doing that for any longer.
I have no doubt I'd buy this device again. I came from the dInc, and as deeply as the folks over there have their heads buried in the sand, the Tbolt is a significant upgrade in every measure. As far as I can tell, it's as good as it gets. Sure, you could say "There's the EVO 3D", to which I'd say "Yeah... it's about as practical as a 454 big block in a Chevette. LOTSA power with a seriously lacking network behind it." Nobody bought the Tbolt for it's impressive computational abilities. It's the LTE. It's truly the ONLY HTC with a network behind it that outstrips what the phone can do. I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen. I've been trying to disabuse folks of delusions regarding this thing called Vigor, but nobody seems interested in acknowledging reality. But, I'll spit it out again...
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz. Power requirements to produce stability is strictly a function of scaling process, all other factors being equal. Consequently, you're dual core device will be powering TWO cores identical to the Tbolt's, not at 1.1 volts but up around 1.4 volts or more, assuming a clock rate of 1.6GHz. Now I've looked at stock governors for HTC devices and they usually run 4 steps in clocking for their 1GHz devices; 245MHz, 512MHz, 768MHz, and 1.024GHz under the command of an ondemand governor with seemingly fairly low ramp-up thresholds. Assuming this will be true for future devices, you're looking at a chip that will ramp up quick under even modest loads and will eat power at more than twice the rate of a stock Tbolt. In all likelihood the display won't be anything radically different so power consumption there can be reasonably assumed to be in the same ball park. That leaves is with radios. I've yet to hear of an update to the MDM9600 radio chip that provides LTE connectivity so I'm skeptical radio efficiency will improve. The actual transmitter/receiver is very proven technology largely identical to a GSM transmitter/receiver.
So, for those salivating at the thought of dual core, 48 hour battery life, ultra-fast, ultra-high resolution devices, appreciate that the signs for those devices appearing soon don't actually exist yet.
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I got REAL tired of the dInc's stock battery life of sub-3 hours at times, it's tiny screen, it's tendency to overheat, the beautiful yet power-thirsty and VERY dim screen.
The dual core chip Qualcomm is producing uses the same 45nm scorpion core the Tbolt uses, which is why Tbolts clock so well up and beyond 1.6GHz.
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I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
eraursls1984 said:
I've never heard of battery problems with the Dinc (however I've never been to the Dinc forums) and everyone I know with one has good battery life and they rag on me for having my phone on the charger all day. If the Dinc's screen is dimmer than the t bolts then its almost unusable, this is the first phone I've had that I have a problem with the brightness, or lack of brightness. Some t bolts overclock well past 1.6 but most don't. I've had 4 and 1 was stable at about 1.4, 1 was stable at 1.28 and 2 weren't even stable at 1.2, my Droid X was clocked higher than any of my bolts
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The stock battery that came with my dInc was practically worthless. I couldn't count on it to last long enough to go out to dinner. I bought the 3500mAh Innocell a week later which transformed it into a wonderfully long-lived device. The original Samsung AMOLED screens in those were VERY dim. Most reviews took issue with it's lack of brightness, off colors, and it's weird version of white. It was practically useless in direct sunlight. Other Samsung phones of the era also received similar reviews. The new SuperAMOLEDs such as the one in the Charge are a dramatic improvement, but the one in the GalaxyS is identical to the dInc unit and is suffers the same drawbacks.
My Tbolt reaches it's limit at about 1.6GHz and gets VERY weird about voltages much further than that. It's difficult to say why there's such dramatic differences between devices, but I'm tempted to point the finger at on-board caches. Those tend to be more sensitive to speed and voltage than transistors and CPUs in general must be rated based upon their researched weakest link. Normally, the cache is that weak link. In PC's devices with substandard caches simply have them deactivated and are sold as lesser models, such and Intel's Celeron line. Many of those have proven to be overclocking marvels because the weakest link has been cut out of the picture.
I'll tell you what. The weirdest thing happened that made my battery life almost double..... I tried CM7 on it. Got tired of trying to set it up and restored a backup of Gingeritis3D v1.0 Beta6 and ever since then it's been a 14 hour LTE battery. All I can think is there was garbage left on /system that isn't normally wiped and I'd never wiped it or used anything but sense ROMs on it before. Who knows if that even makes sense... Beyond that, I'm clueless, but I'm loving it all the same!
I love my TBolt. I am of the mindset that if you need a phone, get the best one that is available at the time. There will always be something better over the horizon. If you can wait, then do so, but in October, there will be a rumor of something else coming. In the mean while, you have missed out on using a very nice device while putting up with <insert device here> for the next few months. Not everyone can move to a new phone when ever they want too. I can't, so I just make the best decision at the time and stick with it. I needed a new phone two months ago, so I looked at the choices I had. I picked the TBolt, and I have not been disappointed. I was already playing the battery game with my Touch Pro 2, so I took this limitation in stride. I love the power I have gained with the TBolt and have never looked back. The Vigor looks great, and if I could have waited for it, I would have; however, I needed a phone, so I made the best choice at the time. I think I made a good one. No regrets.
If I could go back in time, I'd still get the Thunderbolt. I had some rebooting issues but after the last update it's been pretty solid, and battery life hasn't been as bad as most people like to say. I can routinely get a full day out of it. That said, if I was shopping now I might wait for at least the next batch coming out in the coming month or so. If you don't need a new phone right now, there's always a newer, better one coming out, but you could end up waiting for ever for the *next* new one. Probably the biggest thing I'm left wanting is a physical keyboard, but Verizon has really been slow to get an LTE slider to market -- I'm not aware of any in the immediate pipeline.
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII along with my thunderbolt. While the SGS2 screen is amazing, viewable in bright direct sunlight for me, I don't like the fact that it does not have a search hardware button on it. The weight of the SGS2 is nice too - half that of a TBolt.
However, I would defnitely buy another TBolt to replace my current one since I like the design of the HTC devices best. I bought the TBolt originally since I wanted a 4.3" version of the incredible and am satisfied.
I would buy it again at the same time. If it was now no. The TB will be EOL soon with the TB2 coming out and another one from HTC is coming out.
I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
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I went from eris to droid 2 global to Thunderbolt... Have to say love the Thunderbolt and since I rooted and put on new rom... Performance has been great...
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The Thunderbolt is a good phone. It does exactly what it is supposed to do. If you're on stock and get the extended battery, the phone is gold.
When you root and tweak it, the phone is platinum.
Short answer .. Yes.
I would buy the Thunderbolt again. I like mine, it suits my needs perfectly. If you can wait then do it .. there should be some pretty nice new models coming out later. There always is so get used to that. But that also means that phones like the Thunderbolt become more affordable to the masses, soon they will be on Verizons "free" upgrade list. I was in a place where I could not wait any longer and paid a lot more than they are selling for now.
If you are a power user then wait. If not then grab a Thunderbolt for cheap. The difference between these and what ever comes out soon is not going to be that great to the casual user.

Charge to rezound?

I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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The Charge is a POS phone ,they literally just threw it together so people could have another choice besides the T-bolt. You pretty much paid $300 for the super amoled + (which imo was the only thing the phone had going for it.. Well it had an okay camera too). So yes if you were to ditch your Charge, and come to the Rezound, you'll be happy you did.
Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
$400 deposit? Holy crap!
If you just go into a Verizon store and hold the Rezound in your hand you will notice a much better build quality, not to mention the camera's are better, screen is better, etc..
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Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
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How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
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How's the 3g/4g switching? The charge sometimes leaves me hanging on the handoff for minutes or until I reboot. That's the worst thing about it. They fixed GPS on the latest leak, but the stock people still haven't seen that. How long does a GPS fix take?
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The only thing with the 3G / 4G bit is that if I stay in a 4G area it never switches to 3G. Although, if I happen to stray into a 3G area, it doesn't always switch back to 4G, so I'll have to manually turn the radio off/on, then it kicks back into 4G.
I have noticed if the phone is idle it won't switch automatically. But if I turn on the screen and do something for a minute, it will in fact roll over to 4G.
I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
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I just traded in my Charge for the Rezound. No regrets. GPS the 5 times I have used it was INSTANT lock on, not the 5-10 minutes with the Charge. Doesn't have the freezing and weird radio reboots either. An extended battery exists, and one can actually find it.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to hear, may just hit eject on samsung then...nice.
toby1064 said:
I've got a charge, and was wondering if anyone has switched from the charge to the resound? Curious if there's any improvement in data and GPS connection compared to the charge? I haven't heard anyone losing their mind, do I think there is...anyone? The charge has kinda soured me on Samsung phones, and if there are improvements going to this phone I'll take it. I have a feeling the nexus might be more of the same garbage as the charge. Even though I'm fulled rooted debloated and on GB 2.3.7 my connection is so unstable it makes me furious...
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yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
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Not a Charge, but I came from a Thunderbolt(which was considered the best of the original 3 - Charge, Revolution, Thunderbolt)...
This Rezound compared to a Thunderbolt(that had gone through an assortment of Kernel/Radio/ROM changes) isn't exactly a big step up.
Performance wise, it's only slightly faster then an overclocked Thunderbolt & the GPS is about the same as a Thunderbolt on a Sense 3.5 rom(which was highly accurate).
This phone is nice and all, but if I hadn't damaged my Thunderbolt and knowing now the performance difference, i'd still be using my Thunderbolt.
Luckily I am getting my $400 deposit back in April, around the time the quad-core phones are supposed to be coming out so I'll be upgrading again then unless things really start to happen for the Rezound.
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idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
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idk what you're talking about but this phone runs loops around my friends Oc'd Tbolt on CM. The radio is also immensely better i've get consistent download speeds of 30-50 mbps whereas the tbold the highest was 20-25. Just wait until ICS hits the Rezound and true hardware acceleration is enabled. GB doesn't have true hardware acceleration, and frankly doesn't make much use of the second core. But even then it's still easy to see the differences, just a shame the Rezound is bogged down by a bloated up sense.
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i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
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yup, i sold my charge on ebay for 300 and upgraded to this. I am SOO HAPPY to be done with that phone. the rezound is faster, smoother, more reliable, and the GPS works !! lol.
the charge had a nice screen, but the rezound screen is much much better. It does have that LCD glow to it, but it is so amazingly clear and vibrant, there is no comparison to the charge at all.
battery life is about the same (as with all phones)
GPS , it just works, every time, all the time
I live in sacramento CA and for some reason i have ****ty signal in my house, on the charge i could never make a phone call, with the rezound, i not only make and receive calls on it, but i can hold a 4g signal as well. The radioa/antenna seem to be superior to the charge.
build quality is much nicer
the camera much better than charge camera, wich was actaully pretty decent
1080p HDMI out...
sound is awesome from the headphones with beats.
SENSE is the cats meow compared to touchwiz
my bluetooth headset works again, constantly. On the charge it was hit and miss
Overall, the phone is Def an upgrade from the charge in both functionality, usability, and 'wow' factor
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Well I got Verizon to roll my upgrade fwd to the 25th of this month (7mos early), so I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the rezound on friday. With the improvements you just mentioned, I think my mind is made up. Better reception and GPS?!? I'm convinced that if I get a nexus, I will sadly realize it has the charge's radios, and then I'll get an ulcer, lol.
reverendbill said:
Agree with all that. I never liked the charge, got it just to get grandfathered in on 4g. Crap phone. Love the Rezound.
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Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
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Got the charge when I did for just that reason! Boy they got us didn't they.
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Indeed they did. My buddy had nasty problems with the 4 Tbolts he went through, and the LG screen sucked. It was all bad choices.
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i just find that personally, navigating the b.s. "sense 3.5" on this phone is very similiar(speed-wise) to my Thunderbolt that i last had "BAMF SoaB v1.03" OC'ed to 1.9GHz. i find to when loading up 720p .mkv videos, it still takes almost as load to load on the Rezound as it did on the Thunderbolt.. just with the Rezound, the annoying "out-of-sync" crap i'd experience here & there is nearly gone 100% now.
as for downloading, on my Thunderbolt i was averaging 4 - 5Mbps, and now on the Rezound it's peaked at 13Mbps(but averages around 7 - 8Mbps)... obviously, 4G speeds are going to vary from area to area, but is still an improvement.
and furthermore, yes.. i do realize that once this phone's rooted & we start getting kernals/radios/roms this thing is going to improve tremendously then(especially with CM9).. i'm just a bit disappointed that the "stock" Rezound isn't what i had expected it to be.
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Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
I had the Charge and recently got the Rezound. It's like these two phones aren't even in the same league.
Everyone has pretty much covered why the Charge was a lackluster phone especially the choppy performance, GPS lock time and general unreliable nature of it.
My Charge is going up for sale ASAP!
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Mmm I've only found there to be any possibily of out of sync for videos with .mkvs. But then again .mkv format is junk and I don't expect much out of that format. I'm pretty sure this phone will pound the crap out of the RAZR and Nexus on AOSP/stripped down sense and custom kernal, I have no doubt about it. There have been issues w/ stock sense, I'm not sure which model it was but the Sense was laggy as balls till some OTA was pushed out. There is no reason this phone should lag on the built in UI w/ the hardware specs. I just attritube it to all the crapware Verizon has loaded in , and sense 3.5 is probably not as polished as it could be. I think once ICS hits this phone even on a stock build/debloated it'll run loops around the RAZR and Nexus. Hell even currently how the phone is it beats both those phones in some areas.
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I had some lag at first on my rezound, buy it got smoother every day and now is very smooth. It runs circles around a stock bolt and trying to compare is crazy. Build quality I'd this phone is much nicer as well. I think someone just has buyers remorse.
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I went from Fascinate to Charge to Rezound. The Charge is the Fascinate with the Droid name, a lil more ram, super amoled+ screen better camera and 4G. It's ok, but so not worth the $300 they were charging.
Now the Rezound:
Lets see... 4G, 1 gig Ram, 1.5 Ghz Qualcom core2(lol) with Adreno GPU, 720 Super LCD with ppi higher than the iPhone4/4s, instant GPS lock, beats audio and the battery lasts me a whole work day. The T-bolt is a steaming pile compared to the Rezound and the D Charge is a summer 2010 era phone.

[Q] Is the Amaze's battery life inherently bad?

By inherently bad, I mean are there some extra power sucking hardware components that were just poor design choices (processor/screen) and therefore can't be remedied through software fixes?
I understand that the sensation has decent battery life, whereas the amaze does not. Yet the Amaze should have a more recent processor and a larger battery. So I just want to make sure before I buy that if I'm willing to add a custom rom and use juice defender this will make the Amaze no more power hungry than its direct competitors.
Thanks
I'm thinking most of the drain is coming from the extra work caused by Sense. Custom ROMs do help with battery since they are debloated and all but when we have something AOSP, battery life should be much better. I had experience with my old Moto Cliq where Motoblur would just chug battery. It wasn't until we got AOSP or CyanogenMod that the battery life was acceptable. You could also buy an extended battery like Anker. With the ICS leak, I heard some people report better battery due to better management with the dual-core CPU.
To summarize, we can extend battery life greatly. I'm not sure if there are any hardware stuff that causes shorter battery life though.
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It's only bad if your going to play one of the new console quality games out there or anything else that really going to push that dual core 1.5mhz chipset. Imagine powering your laptop with a battery the size of the one in your phone that's what you get. Get a car charger grab a Pocket seized power pack from Amazon for $10th or an extra batt and you'll be fine. Either that or just text make some calls & listen to some music and let all that power chill & you'll make it all day no problem. Push it hard & it's dead in 2hrs. But the things it can do are crazy. This thing has more balls than my laptop. Just my 2 cents.
I don't believe that the Amaze's battery is inherently bad. I was able to get 10 hours off of Beast Rom with moderate usage.
I talk a lot on Skype with my relatives sometimes. It's much cheaper for me because I'm using the T-mobile 5 gigs of 4G at $30. Lots of data but only 100 minutes.
So I'm pretty familiar with the battery life. With the new ICS leak my battery life has improved a lot. Still had a green bar on the battery even after using Skype on 4G for over an hour. I do however keep a charger at home, car and at work.
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By inherently bad, I mean are there some extra power sucking hardware components that were just poor design choices (processor/screen) and therefore can't be remedied through software fixes?
I understand that the sensation has decent battery life, whereas the amaze does not. Yet the Amaze should have a more recent processor and a larger battery. So I just want to make sure before I buy that if I'm willing to add a custom rom and use juice defender this will make the Amaze no more power hungry than its direct competitors.
Thanks
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On stock yeah the battery life is HORRIBLE, I am a average user and it use to last me 6-8 hours and sometimes less. After switching to Energy rom my battery improved GREATLY, I had anywhere between 12 to 16 hours.
With the new ICS leak that came, I notice stock had improved significantly over previous GB stock ! I just switched over to Revolution, checking it out to see how it is although I much prefer the Energy rom simply because of the 5x5 layout.
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On stock yeah the battery life is HORRIBLE, I am a average user and it use to last me 6-8 hours and sometimes less. After switching to Energy rom my battery improved GREATLY, I had anywhere between 12 to 16 hours.
With the new ICS leak that came, I notice stock had improved significantly over previous GB stock ! I just switched over to Revolution, checking it out to see how it is although I much prefer the Energy rom simply because of the 5x5 layout.
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Wow, thank you for the reassurance. I was getting 6-8 hours as well. I am highly skeptical that a ROM could make that much of a difference, (going from 12-16) but I am happy to try.
I have noticed on some days prior to the pics leak that I would get 10+ hours and some cays I would get maybe 5 Max. Bone stock btw. Since the update I am killing that thing. I was able to go 6 and that was with the radio off, no sync, nothing. Only thing running was a podcast. Then again for the first time I was able to get 12hrs via radio off. I don't know I am personally not too happy with the radio update. Regardless I am glad I have the leak and I'm glad there is a place like this where I am giving so many options and get to learn more about this phone.
Thank you xda members glad you are here
i get great battery everyday. since day one by far the best phone i've owned in every aspect but the battery life for me is incredible.
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Well... here's my results
Stock GB Amaze: After 10 hours (with moderate use) I was at 20%
Unlocked bootloader.. installed NRG's GB ROM (still waiting a bit to upgrade to ICS.. mainly waiting for radio issues to be resolved)
Before I had to plug in for the night, I was at 13hrs54minutes with 30% battery left and MUCH MUCH MORE awake/screen time (total screen ON time was at about 3hrs45minutes) than the test with stock..
So yeah, the ROM you're running makes a GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE.
Does the energy gingerbread and the energy ice cream sandwich rom get the same battery life? Have the ICS Roms been maximized for battery life like the gingerbread Roms have?

Battery Life question?

I Currently have a Galaxy Nexus and was considering a trade offer for a EVO 4G LTE. was wondering how is the battery life on this thing? what are some battery stats are you guys are getting over here?
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I Currently have a Galaxy Nexus and was considering a trade offer for a EVO 4G LTE. was wondering how is the battery life on this thing? what are some battery stats are you guys are getting over here?
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Depends I can get 6-8 hrs video streaming on wifi if I use it less it last a rather long time. I have the gn and this I love them both and couldn't choose if I had one line lol.
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The battery life is fantastic but my old phone was a generation older then your Nexus. With my Epic 4G if I got 1.5hrs of screen on time (15-30% brightness and 1-2% no signal) I would be on the low battery warning. If I used Nav it would drain the battery 1% a minute. On the Evo I can have the screen cranked up to 50% or higher, get 2.5 hours of screen on time, music streaming and navigation going and get home at the end of the day with 40% left. :victory:
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Depends I can get 6-8 hrs video streaming on wifi if I use it less it last a rather long time. I have the gn and this I love them both and couldn't choose if I had one line lol.
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Yea, I don't really want to get rid of it because Devlopment is just so much more fast paced on the GNex then any other device. but at the same time my battery life and under powered cpu/gpu are a turn off for me... decisions decisions lol
mauricehall said:
Yea, I don't really want to get rid of it because Devlopment is just so much more fast paced on the GNex then any other device. but at the same time my battery life and under powered cpu/gpu are a turn off for me... decisions decisions lol
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I really think your switching to better hardware with the evo. It comes down to how much you care for the software differences really
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I really think your switching to better hardware with the evo. It comes down to how much you care for the software differences really
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I'm not a fan of sense by any strech of the imagination... but im sure the devs can do something about that to where I wouldn't have to deal with that for too long.
I usually get a full day out of this device no matter what. I've only really tried two roms, mean and viper. Viper for me, had a more steady decrease rate where I could get 5-7 hours of screen on time during a day easily. I've not heavily used it since I've been on mean rom, although I usually hit 50% after 45-60 minutes of screen on time with mean.(Albeit this is over a full regular day's usage where my phone battery time would be between 9-11 hours)
Since I figure a follow up question will be the performance between the two, they perform about the same. The difference in performance for day to day usage is minimal at best. Either way both roms get a full day for my current usage.(Full day being 13-18 hours)
I think that it is pretty unanimous that the EVO has far superior battery life. Every review and person I've talked to say that.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I think that it is pretty unanimous that the EVO has far superior battery life. Every review and person I've talked to say that.
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I would have to say the evo 4g lte and galaxy s 3 (s4soc) has amazing battery life.I average 16-20 hours medium use!(facebook,instagram,browsing,calls,text,youtube) a friend of mine has the vz galaxy nexus,within the first week he had to buy the 3800ah? Siedo. His stock battery would die in 6-10 hours medium use. He also lost NFC during the battery swap.
This device even outlast my evo 3d with the 3000mah battery! At first I wondered why they permanently shoved a 2000mah battery inside,but honestly with efficient hardware the battery life was/is greater then I expected.
I'm on my phone all the time. Phone calls, texting, you tube videos, email, Facebook, etc. My screen is usually at 25%. I average about a 10% drop an hour during heavy use periods,with about 14 to 16 hours a day without having to charge.
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