Hello,
Simply as the title says, is the Nexus 10 worth it over the Nexus 7 besides the extra screen size (price not an issue)?
Thanks,
Crazysah
Yes
And the Nexus 7 will be getting a whole new model in 3 months. It will have a Snapdraon 600 processor, probably get an upgrade to 2GB of RAM like everything new does now days, and hopefully will also get a resolution bump. Once it gets this new model upgrade the choice between these two tablets might become harder.
My main reasons for liking the Nexus 10 more are:
- Rear-facing camera + flash
- Vibration
- Screen Resolution
- Specs
Imo, totally worth it The only downside that bothers me is portability, but meh.
The only thing that may concern me is how fast it runs while streaming and playing games and battery life on the Nexus 10.
Otherwise it looks to be the tablet for me definitely.
A real-world non-technical comparison:
My wife and daughter each have a Nexus 7, and they're both very envious of my Nexus 10 that I've had since last week.
They both like the bigger screen, and my wife commented that she likes the colours on my Nexus 10 better. Her Nexus 7 looks a bit washed-out when side-by-side with my Nexus 10. She also thinks it feels faster, but that's just her subjective view obviously.
As a Nexus 10 and 7 owner.. get the 10..
In my family we have two Nexus 10's and a Nexus 7. I was the one using the Nexus 7, with my wife having a Nexus 10 for months. I became envious of her Nexus 10 and got my own several days ago. My daughter uses the Nexus 7 and is in love with it. It's the perfect size for her. If i had to choose between them (and I just did), I'd get a Nexus 10 because of the screen. The Nexus 7's screen isn't bad necessarily but the 10's screen is really good. I love reading PDFs on it now, couldn't say that with the 7.
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I personally think that they are too different to simply ponder which one should i get. To me they both have very different uses due to their form factor.
My N10 is absolutely fantastic, one of the best uses of my money in a long long time, but that said, due to it's size, it is either for home use or for when i'm on a coach or sat in the car for an hour waiting to pick someone up. The N7 would not satisfy me in these situations, but with a N7 or similar small tablet, it could feasibly slip in a pocket, be taken to the shop with me (i use my N10 a lot as a cookbook) or just generally out and about without having to consider lugging an 11" device around, i'm not the type to have a backpack or such, it's pockets or nothing.
as such, i love my N10, but am also considering selling an old computer that's not doing anything and using some of the money to buy a smaller device to complement my N10, just gotta decide which smaller device to consider. I do rather like the notion of a good stylus.
So yes, for me it's a question on usage, not which is better based on technical spec.
I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
Crazysah said:
I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
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Battery life seems to vary from user to user, 8-9 hours being normal it seems. Some seem to only get 4-5, not sure what they do with their tablet, while some using different roms are getting 10+ without an issue. I've never tested mine although i watched an HD copy of the avengers on a coach, using headphones, and wifi off, and i was at 76% battery life about 2 and a half hours later, so good enough for me I played a game the other day for the first time, Arcane Legends, and while i didn't play for very long, it seemed that my battery was dropping at an alarming rate, as in mere hours of play time before running out of juice.
As to streaming, hit and miss. As you know, there is no longer any proper flash support. I've found most sites do not work for me, however this might be fixable through a different browser but i have not tried as the youtube app is all i need, anything streamed will be done on my computer.
No Android device will officially support flash anymore, so both the Nexus 7 and 10 fall into the same category here as "hit and miss" with finding a stable web browser than has flash integrated into it.
Nexus 10 for me but nexus 7 is definetly easier to carry around. But that is not even a factor for me.
It's basically if you want to carry it with you all the time vs if you want to use it in more stationary way. Or have very weak hands that can't hold it for long.
Can someone check if firstrowsports.eu works? That's what I most care about. Check if you can view any matches.
Couldn't seem to watch anything using chrome browser just now.
Ah damn. Maybe I can use OnLive Desktop like I did for the iPad.
You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You don't need root to flash a custom ROM, nor do you need that particular ROM either.
You need at the very least, a custom recovery. TWRP and CWM are the only options in this regard. Next, you can either:
- Install AOSP's browser on stock ROM
- Install a custom ROM that has AOSP's browser
And there's plenty of custom ROM's that include AOSP's browser. Next, you'll need to grab the legitimate flash player from Adobe's archive site for ICS, install it, and bam, done. No idea what that flash hack is you mention...
That's just the Keywords I remember putting into Google and the flash thing was like the third page
Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
Crazysah said:
Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
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The Nexus 10 is a little limited. It handles MP4, and M4V fine but a no go on MKV. It'll play but jerky and stutters. It also has played some WMAs without issue. As for audio I am not sure, of course mp3 is fine and I think flac works as well
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I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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I have both devices. They are a good combination. But every app on Nexus 10 looks better.
For some reason I find myself on my dad's iPad 4 rather than my Nexus 10. Apple is def doing something right.
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I have the n7 and the n 10 ipad2 and just sold my galaxy tab 7.7.
Not all apps look better on the N 10. For example the Engadget app does not scale, yet.
Out of all the tablets i have owned the n7 is the best. However I am getting the note 2 on Monday and I suspect it will be my go to device, then the n 10, and finally my laptop.
Another couple of years and they will have finally have a tablet that can be used for work and play, not there yet.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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The point is that the Nexus 10 does web browsing, the main use of a tablet for most, bigger and sharper and has the horse power to push it extremely smoothly.
No one says I have a cell phone, what is the point of a 55 inch TV, my apps look the same on it. Why would anyone say that here?
10 inch is the sweet spot like Steve Jobs said in my opinion. Laptop is too clunky and the Nexus 7 and Note are too small. That is my opinion.
To me, an android phone is the best (love my S3 to death). But for a tablet, iOS is the best. I decided to return my nexus 10 since Im not patient enough. I got frustrated with apps on the nexus 10. Apps do not look good and run well on the nexus for now (this will be fixed, of course). But apps for ipad are also much better. ALso never think more pixels are better. WHat matters is its contrast and color accuracy. More pixels only drain the battery.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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actually apps will look different on the nexus. specificly, they look worse since they haven't been optimized for high resolution screen .. yet
These arguments are pretty pointless. The notion that there must be a one great almighty device that trumps all seems silly to me. They're both great, just buy which one fits your needs. Its a tablet you use to watch YouTube, its not a big deal.
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There is no denying that the iPad 4 is the best all-around tablet out there - build quality, performance, smoothness, tablications, battery life, everything is cool. I'm buying the Nexus 10 however because:
- better bang for the buck, the $100 it's cheaper can be use for the surely coming keyboard dock
- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
- extras: higher res screen, NFC, USB-OTG possibilities (media play without root), front-facing quality speakers, lighter weight
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- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
Of course you would make a thread like this lol. The moderators must be getting tired of closing these things...
Who gives a flying frack what the app "looks" like!! Does it do what it is supposed to do? Does it do it fast? Do movies look better than just about anything else out there? Is the sound great compared to most tablets? Is the resolution higher than ANY tablet out there?
Personally I am about getting **** done with a tablet, you can have your pretty apps, because I already got my **** done, and ran 17 more apps while you are "oooh'ing and ahh'ing" over how pretty your apps are...
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are purely my own, don't expect you to or even care if you agree, move along :good:
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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you don't have to agree. personal opinions are just that. personal opinions. sideloading or not, i'm not quite sure of the difference. apps are apps. we all use them. so whether or not you have to install an app to get something to work the way we want it doesn't really take anything away from the devices we choose. some cars have ugly rims on them when we buy them from the dealer. we buy and put custom wheels on them. your "point" is moot at this point. but an ipad or buy a nexus 10. who cares.
Nexus 10 is so big it doesn't matter how thick it is within reason. Actually, I would've preferred they gave it a bigger battery for longer life unplugged.
Valynor said:
Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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Yes Nexus10 is awesome, but I'm a little bit desapointed by Android 4.2 regarding "no flash player" I know the reasons but currently I cannot benefit from web TVs I planned to watch with my new tablet (Orange TV, Canal+, Pluzz...).
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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I agree CreepyDroid. I tried to sideload the apk and to use other browsers without success. I would apreciate to read a good step by step link
Thank in advance.
Tomatoes8 said:
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
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i am really disappointed from google now! say what ever any body wants to say against me, i dont care cause reality aint gonna change!
i am a Samsung Boy... everything i own is from samsung (electronics ofcourse)
in my point of view, Google is a Huge company, Bigger than Apple. google can produce tablet oriented apps! YES IT CAN! i dont really dont find not more than like 10 apps that are ESPECIALLY made for my tablets! i owned Nexus 7, sold that cause of lag in browser, Now i own NOTE 10.1!
an Excellent Tablet! but No Apps!
when i was in search of good tab i had to choose between iPad 3 and Note 10.1 and i went for Note 10.1 cause i love Google but i AGAIN got disappointed! not from the tablet, but the SOFTWARE SUPPORT AND APP AVAILABILITY!
i am thinking of getting Nexus 10 but i am keeping my self away from the idea of getting it cause of app support!
mark my words, THERE WILL BE NO APPS FOR NEXUS 10 AT LEAST NOT FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 MONTHS!
Apple is only better in APP support and software support than google! GOOGLE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! WHEN U CAN ACTIVATE MILLIONS OF DEVICES EVERY DAY WHY NOT THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEM! DONT TELL ME ITS DIFFICULT FOR GOOGLE! ITS A BILLIONS OF $$ COMPANY!! AND HECK IT HAS SUPPORT OF MONSTER COMPANIES LIKE SAMSUNG, LG, HTC AND OTHERS.....!!!
google is destroying its image in minds of customers like me, who change their gadgets very frequently!
accept it or not dude! u can not deny the reality! SMARTPHONES IS ANDROID THING NOW, TABLETS ARE APPLE THING NOW... and only for the fact of no app and software support!
Valynor said:
Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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On the INTERNET, Flash is by far the most popular video format... and until HTML5 has agreed on a format that Chrome Firefox IE Safari Opera etc can agree on, flash video is still the choice for many web designers. If you are interested in seeing that content, you can either get flash a capable browser, or not see the video... crap or not.
Just got mine, but initial impressions aren't all that positive. The N10 is my 6/7?th tablet, so I think I have some reasonable comparisons (original iPad, Xoom, Acer, Asus TF101,102, Prime, Infinity).
I really dislike the layout of the N10 Android home/back buttons. I use my tablets almost exclusively in landscape mode, so having to reach to to middle of the screen to find home or back buttons BLOWS. I have large hands but I hate having to move my hand rather than reaching with my thumbs - seems so unnecessary. I also dislike Chrome as the defacto browser because it doesn't have Flash and the usual Android stock browser (which is very good overall) isn't loaded - so forced to use other browsers (with their own quirks) that do support Flash. Frankly, until every site on the net is available in HTML5, every device needs Flash support.
While the screen is nice, it's not something I noticed was mind blowingingly better than than the Asus Infinity (nor the Prime for that matter). I use my tablet all day long for reading and I don't find the resolution improvement offers much improvement.
The really nice thing about the N10 is the speaker locations. Makes a meaningful improvement over rear facing speakers on the Prime/Infinity. That said, volume is still too low - have to get an aftermarket app (like SpeakerBoost) to get volume up to decent levels for noisy environments.
Battery life seems good - better than the Asus Infinity/Prime, but obviously no dock to goose battery life a lot more. USB charger is slow on the N10. Asus wins that contest hands down.
Build quality seems good, but Asus Infinity is so much nicer (and thinner and lighter).
N10 offers smooth scrolling so the processor works nicely. Chrome works buttery smooth, but alas, lack of Flash is ridiculous as so many sites I visit still use Flash.
I'll keep for a few more days to see if it grows on me, but I think it's going back for a refund...
That said, if the N10 is your first high end tablet, you'll like it...
Wait a second, so you prefer the build and materials over smoothness and performance? What kind of cracked out world are we living in?
The browser is replaceable and flash is easily implemented so the only thing that you mention is feel and build. Maybe flesh out a little better of why you prefer the infinity or you will end up looking like that pierrekid moron.
You can solve your 2 main issues pretty easily actually :
Buttons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010280
Browser: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006215
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...What kind of cracked out world are we living in?
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The same world where somebody could mistake a Nexus 7 as an iPad Mini, before the iPad Mini was even released
The N10 is not using Tablet UI which explains why the navigation buttons are in the bottom-center. Tablet UI since 4.2 is deprecated in Google's eyes.
The N10 is also the "Google" experience, which is why Chrome is included by default. Flash player on Jellybean is not supported, and there's nothing you nor anyone else can do to warrant any kind of support from Google or Adobe regarding such matters. With this said though, there are various methods for getting Flash Player working on Jellybean. On devices that use an older OS (ICS for example), I guess Flash Player works just fine. Also... I run into very few sites that "require" flash player.
And... since this is a Nexus device, you can easily tailor the device to your needs. Your not forced with a lockdown bootloader, unlocking the bootloader doesn't void warranty, and the Nexus 10 is the best device supported on AOSP currently, which means customizing the Android experience should be... relatively easy for anyone (with experience). That button-location thing I mentioned, can be fixed with some modifications.
I haven't owned a Infinity, so I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure the Nexus 10 is more "open".
I would take chrome over transformers laggy browsers. They have terrible stock browsers. (Yes, download another one.) Tf201 was a TERRIBLE tablet! Battery was good but gps didnt work, bluetooth and wifi couldnt be used at the same time, wifi had terrible signal. Looked nice but that's about it. Nexus wins this.
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Nothing mentioned in the OP should be an issue for anyone who has owned a Nexus device or has minimal knowledge on how to root and use custom roms/kernels.
WilliamShakespeare said:
Just got mine, but initial impressions aren't all that positive. The N10 is my 6/7?th tablet, so I think I have some reasonable comparisons (original iPad, Xoom, Acer, Asus TF101,102, Prime, Infinity).
I really dislike the layout of the N10 Android home/back buttons. I use my tablets almost exclusively in landscape mode, so having to reach to to middle of the screen to find home or back buttons BLOWS. I have large hands but I hate having to move my hand rather than reaching with my thumbs - seems so unnecessary. I also dislike Chrome as the defacto browser because it doesn't have Flash and the usual Android stock browser (which is very good overall) isn't loaded - so forced to use other browsers (with their own quirks) that do support Flash. Frankly, until every site on the net is available in HTML5, every device needs Flash support.
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bee answered your question. It's a very easy thing to accomplish. You can achieve your desired preference in future ROMs and in present ROMs available for the N10.
WilliamShakespeare said:
While the screen is nice, it's not something I noticed was mind blowingingly better than than the Asus Infinity (nor the Prime for that matter). I use my tablet all day long for reading and I don't find the resolution improvement offers much improvement.
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Are you being serious? If there's anything to gripe about it's the apps that have not been updated to provide the optimal performance for the N10, you'll have to be patient for the community to catch up to the specifications of the N10. They're beyond amazing when they have proper support compared to older tablets. The image quality is definitely noticeable in this case.
WilliamShakespeare said:
The really nice thing about the N10 is the speaker locations. Makes a meaningful improvement over rear facing speakers on the Prime/Infinity. That said, volume is still too low - have to get an aftermarket app (like SpeakerBoost) to get volume up to decent levels for noisy environments.
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Yes the speaker locations are paramount. They should have always been the standard - which they will be now.
When playing movies using MX Player or playing music through Google Music, I have to turn the volume down as it gets too loud so I disagree with the volume being too low.
You honestly have to have hard of hearing to believe that. Why would anyone in a noisy enviroment not use headphones? The device comes with a headphone jack which would make sense to utilize in such enviroments.
For example:
Listening to music on a portable device such as the N10 when you're in a room with other people playing games (causing lots of noise) and then complaining about the volume being too low is being ignorant. Use your headphones.
WilliamShakespeare said:
Battery life seems good - better than the Asus Infinity/Prime, but obviously no dock to goose battery life a lot more. USB charger is slow on the N10. Asus wins that contest hands down.
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You're comparing something to nothing. The pogo charger/dock hasn't been released for the N10 yet so resorting to comparing it to the stock charger, which only takes 5½ hours for me to charge from 0% is excellent for a 9000mah battery, is moot and completely nullifies your comparison. You should wait until Samsung/Google releases the pogo charger and/or keyboard dock.
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Build quality seems good, but Asus Infinity is so much nicer (and thinner and lighter).
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Build quality is superb for the Nexus 10. It really doesn't matter as it's all subjective and differs from individual to individual.
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N10 offers smooth scrolling so the processor works nicely. Chrome works buttery smooth, but alas, lack of Flash is ridiculous as so many sites I visit still use Flash.
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There are alternatives to achieve the desired results.
WilliamShakespeare said:
I'll keep for a few more days to see if it grows on me, but I think it's going back for a refund...
That said, if the N10 is your first high end tablet, you'll like it...
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The only thing that the Infinity would have over the N10 is the microSD expansion slot and maybe the camera, but who takes photos with tablets for art? Congrats.
Screen and screen resolution is inferior
Only has 1GB of ram
An abysmal 224ppi - tablets for that cost should have better ppi for a better picture quality.
Only supports MP3
so on so forth.
Someone who doesn't appreciate the price per power ratio of the N10 doesn't deserve to own one.
Return it and be gone.
Im sorry but you must be high or something. I came from the A500, GTab 10.1, Prime, Infinity then Note 10.1. The only tablet that I would consider going back to which I dont because the N10 is a beast, is the Note 10.1.
The Infinity has lots of problems and we all know what they are. I gladly sacrificed the keyboard dock for the N10 which wil be on craigslist shortly.
If you dont realize what you got there then its best that you do return your N10 and head back to the Infinity/Prime forum.
Oh and the screen... its definitely better then the Infinity in everyway.
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The Infinity is 0.5mm thinner and 5g lighter. I can't imagine how a human would actually notice that difference.
Folks,
give the OP some slack here. I can see how someone coming from TF700 would not see the N10 as a quantum leap.
Let me tell you a little secret ... I ordered the N10 about an hr after it went up for sale ... cancelled the order 20 mins later ... just could not think of why it would be so much better compared to the ... drum roll ... the TF101 I have ( I have 2 in the household ).
I am still hoping and praying that Sammy will release what was known as P10 , after the contractually obligated "do not compete" clause expires.
Dock, stylus, expansion slots ... CES may be ? Something that is free of Google's idiotic restrictions ...
Good luck waiting for dock and/or charger for N10
I just have one question:
You said USB charging on the Infinity was better. I had the Infinity for a while before I got my N10, and I could never actually get it to charge via USB. I'm still curious as how to actually get it to work.
I am wondering how you can even compare things that are clearly OS version and app dependent ??
Flash / Browser , yada yada yada ...
4.2 does not support flash end of story, you have to sideload or use something non-stock, it if you want flash to work.
So when you get 4.2.1 STOCK AOSP on the Infinity then you could actually make a fair comparison.
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Folks,
give the OP some slack here. I can see how someone coming from TF700 would not see the N10 as a quantum leap.
Let me tell you a little secret ... I ordered the N10 about an hr after it went up for sale ... cancelled the order 20 mins later ... just could not think of why it would be so much better compared to the ... drum roll ... the TF101 I have ( I have 2 in the household ).
I am still hoping and praying that Sammy will release what was known as P10 , after the contractually obligated "do not compete" clause expires.
Dock, stylus, expansion slots ... CES may be ? Something that is free of Google's idiotic restrictions ...
Good luck waiting for dock and/or charger for N10
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It makes sense to compare a tablet you own to the N10, but to go as far as saying there's another tablet that's factually better than the Nexus 10 with the points the OP claimed are anything but him having buyers remorse and trolling.
The reason I'm not going from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 is because it's not a large enough gap in technology to warrant buying a new phone. The OP bought the N10 expecting it to project holograms and provide time travel and was disappointed it didn't so says that an inferior device is better than said device. It makes no sense. If it's not the upgrade you expected, don't blast the device. It's better than any of the tablets he mentioned albeit not a substantial upgrade.
I'm not going around the Nexus 4 forums saying the Galaxy Nexus is better because the upgrades are minimal compared to what I already own.
It's just irrelevant and ignorant to say such things with little to no context other than self-absorbed remorse.
This thread should be closed. It's pointless and disappointing.
I still can't figure it out. Unless build materials and weight is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than performance and battery life, which he admitted was superior on the Nexus 10, it doesn't make any sense.
His other issues are easily fixed through the play store or side load.
I wish the OP and and pierrekid would just cut out the BS politics and just come out and say I love Asus or I hate Google/Samsung build materials. Honesty is something that is sorely missing in today's society. Can't say I blame them though, sometimes you have to flat out lie to get ahead.
I myself have owned both a prime and an infinity, and back when I owned them, prayed daily that Google would release a 10inch tablet to the market. When they announced it, I knew I would give away my ASUS counterparts in a heartbeat no matter what. The prime/infinity had such lagginess, even with custom roms, you could tell the I/O suffered immensely
I couldn't be happier with my N10. It's a f*ck*in monster, and the screen res blows away the infinity. Put em up side by side...you can tell a difference.
I would never go back to ASUS again. I can't even believe this is a discussion. There were so many unhappy asus owners, and hell...there still are this very day!
God bless Google and doing the Nexus 4, 7 and 10. They are an ARMY!
Buttons that are centered, can easily be solved in the near future with a custom rom. Not to mention anything else you have as a pet peeve
How would anyone prefer the Asus tablet when it is confirmed it has a poor hardware memory which causes slowdowns and freezes?
Maybe you haven't heard about the I/O problems with Asus tablets...
No way a tablet with memory hardware problems is better than the nexus 10.
Agreed
Had 2 Asus Tf700 and I return both them back..
Too much problem
1-Bluetooth lag
2-It couldn't handle a lot media files
3-Dead trigger was crashing on my device all the time,called Madfinger and they know what to the me.
4-Stupid Asus want to follow Apple footsteps, only one speaker....
Etc.....
The only good thing about the TF700 is the aluminum body.
Glad Google come out with this device..
PS:And don't have to wait for an update when it is released...
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I agree with the OP, the nexus 10 is my 3rd tablet(the other 2 are the trasformer tf300 and the Infinity). Both tf300 and the Infinity play somewhat fine with Blu ray movies in MKV format. Hoping for better smoothness and performance in videos with the Nexus 10, i was disappointing to find out the Infinity did better than the Nexus 10 in video playback(using mxplayer pro)
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Media playback will improve once media players are updated to support the N10's GPU. I've had to use software rending 5 out of 10 times with the videos I've watched.
The idea of this thread is ridiculous to me. This tablet has been exactly what I hoped it to be. I can actually still use my tablet while updating apps. I can open more than one webpage without immense stuttering (even complex ones), and I can switch between them without waiting an unbearably long time (thank you, 2GB of ram). I can switch between apps with very minimal delay (that is nicely covered up by a system animation). In short - I can use my tablet without it getting in the way.
I guess I can add to that the fact that the build quality on mine seems stellar, and light bleed is virtually non-existent. I love the material on the back. And I haven't had any issues with resets.
This is the tablet that I can just use without getting frustrated. I may eventually want to install a custom rom and theme it (something I have done to every device I have owned in the last 6 years). Heck, this seems like a perfect candidate for one of the "prettier" themes. But right now, I'm just enjoying using it.
Most things you mentioned can be fixed. Use boat browser and install flash on it manually, its really fast and flash works with no problems.
I don't like the stock Nav bar too and use Lmt instead, gives me the full 10 inch real estate and is convenient to use.
This tablet is awesome and I have used tons of tablet in the past, Plus its a nexus device and there is already tons of development in the forums in addition to the up to date android os
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I bought the Nexus 10 32GB out of curiosity last week, unlocked it and installed AOKP And all the goodies, but now I ended up not even thinking about using it for anything.
I have been using the HTC DNA since it was released, so I wasn't impressed by the N10's screen quality but not disappointed either. For the first few hours, I thought it would replace my laptop but I found myself using my ASUS Zenbook more so than N10 or the DNA. It's not because the N10 Doesn't have any practical utilities, but rather because my laptop do things far more better. Also, I just can't figure out how to comfortably hold the tablet. I thought of buying a case with a built-in stand, but I figured that it would be more convenient to just carry my laptop around instead.
So I'm about to sell my N10 but I just wanted to know how you guys utilize it before I do.
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I bought the Nexus 10 32GBout of curiosity last week, unlocked it and installed AOKP And all the goodies, but now I ended up not even thinking about using it for anything.
I have been using the HTC DNA since it was released, so I wasn't impressed by the N10's screen quality but not disappointed either. For the first few hours, I thought it would replace my laptop but I found myself using my ASUS Zenbook more so than N10 or the DNA. It's not because the N10 Doesn't have any practical utilities, but rather because my laptop do things far more better. Also, I just can't figure out how to comfortably hold the tablet. I thought of buying a case with a built-in stand, but I figured that it would be more convenient to just carry my laptop around instead.
So I'm about to sell my N10 but I just wanted to know how you guys utilize it before I do.
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ehhh that's based on your usage really I like to go out and travel a lot, I'm an amateur photographer and i also do vfx stuffs so my laptop is pretty bulky. I only use it when I have to. Other than that when I go out for coffee or photo day I usually carry my nexus 10 and otg usb so I could view them in a bigger screen and sort out what I don't need or need. I also use my nex during relax for youtube, web surfing...etc, I also found myself using it for a recipe in cooking lol :silly: and yes it is not as practical as a laptop but I use it because of portability. But maybe it's not for you since you have the Zenbook :silly:
In addition to checking bookmarked news sites and social networks, I use the kindle and comixology apps (the latter mainly for marvel comics). For reading, I find the N10 superior to a laptop, and for web it's most of the time only slightly inferior (except when you're thrown into an ugly mobile site designed for 3" screens).
As for holding it, I slouch with my feet on the table and find I can keep the N10 at a usable angle and distance by dropping it in my lap. You may want to experiment with various couches/tables to find your ideal position
I'm a unix system administrator by profession, and I wouldn't ever consider using the N10 for work. I still have my cheapo laptop with linux for when I need to work from home.
I use my Nexus 10 for a variety of things, but mainly for reading, gaming, communication through apps like Hangouts, Voxer, and others, and study. I use EZPDF for annotation, best annotator out there. I also use it for music, since the speakers are quite loud. I also use it to time my efforts in volunteer work and record any necessary information (Ministry Assistant), and more. I've been trying to find more uses for it myself, I've only owned it for a week now. Best Android tablet I've used, for sure!
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I use it with my hands and fingers.
I found that whenever I owned a laptop it would always sit in one place plugged in constantly. I now stick with a more powerful and more reliable desktop and have a Nexus for when I go out and about since they're much more portable.
I'm at university studying computer science. I use it all the time to type notes and read pdf versions of the numerous textbooks I need, so saves a huge amount of space and weight in my bag. I also use it a lot for the web, like if I'm on a site that requires a lot of reading, I'll often load it up on my tablet even if I'm on it on my laptop just to read it, just because the screen is so much easier to read off for me than my laptops. I use my n10 a lot and it's possibly the best thing I have bought in years, the 10 inch tab fits in my life perfectly. Although I am used to the 10 inch form factor as I had the galaxy tab 10.1 for a year before I got the nexus 10 and 7.
I also have the nexus 4 and the nexus 7. The nexus 7 I mainly use as a ebook reader, to play some games that are awkward on a 4.7 and 10.05 inch screen. Also use it a lot between the large amount of time it takes to charge my n10 up
I do the same as the person above. Also use it for reading books in general, my friends steal it to play games, and it's useful for long car rides even without internet.
Only problem is, is that I am too lazy to figure out how to compile my programming assignments on my Nexus 10 :/
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Is there a way to connect my phone with my Nexus 10 besides Bluetooth? Like, if I get a text message or a whats app message on my phone, I could see it on my N10?
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Is there a way to connect my phone with my Nexus 10 besides Bluetooth? Like, if I get a text message or a whats app message on my phone, I could see it on my N10?
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Mighty Text. Its even notify you when someone is calling.
I generally don't really use mine at home unless my Desktop is in some kind of inoperable state (I used my N10 earlier to look up some info on a few BIOS settings for my Desktop). If I hear a notification go off, I usually go to my N4, or just minimize the game I'm playing on my Desktop and check Gmail.
I'd love to get some more use out of my N10, just need to figure out how... lol
I use it to play games. test out different ROMs. for skype/chatting when I am playing a game on my desktop. browsing the web. Sometimes watch youtube videos when I am away from desktop. listen to music.
Thanks for Mighty Text. Also what's the best combo to use it as a streaming player of my files on my computer? I wanna use it as a player and make my computer the "server".
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I do the same as the person above. Also use it for reading books in general, my friends steal it to play games, and it's useful for long car rides even without internet.
Only problem is, is that I am too lazy to figure out how to compile my programming assignments on my Nexus 10 :/
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Well I'm sure there's some addons to mobile terminal for make and that stuff....
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I gave up my PC when I bought my nexus 10 so I use it for everything. Most days I just use it for the basic email, news (while on the toilet ), calendar, phone. I have a galaxy nexus but when I'm home I usually just use hangouts,Facebook, or Skype for calls off my tablet.
Its also my Netflix, hooked up to a TV. I went through 3 HDMI cables before I found one that worked on the nexus 10. For some reason it's picky.
Torrents, I have a wifi external HD I use to back things up.
I really want to add a Bluetooth speaker but I spent too much money on my Bose back when I had iPhone 3gs. Now I have to suffer with it.
GPS in the car, tethered to my phone (NFC tag). Gaming, though obviously its far from what my PC was.
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I bought the Nexus 10 32GB out of curiosity last week, unlocked it and installed AOKP And all the goodies, but now I ended up not even thinking about using it for anything.
I have been using the HTC DNA since it was released, so I wasn't impressed by the N10's screen quality but not disappointed either. For the first few hours, I thought it would replace my laptop but I found myself using my ASUS Zenbook more so than N10 or the DNA. It's not because the N10 Doesn't have any practical utilities, but rather because my laptop do things far more better. Also, I just can't figure out how to comfortably hold the tablet. I thought of buying a case with a built-in stand, but I figured that it would be more convenient to just carry my laptop around instead.
So I'm about to sell my N10 but I just wanted to know how you guys utilize it before I do.
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Everything! Watching movies, reading emails, social media sites. For editing and sharing pictures and videos. It pretty much replaced a laptop and a desktop.
Web browsing when I'm outside in the backyard smoking or grilling, occasional games, netflix in bed, etc. I should probably use it more for how much I paid for it, but I love it as a tablet. After having a HORRIBLE experience with a TF300t it's perfect for me. No lags unless the app I'm using is laggy on all devices.
Mostly reading (news, books, comics, pocket) I also have a Zenbook but for reading the N10 is far better.
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I'm using mine more than my new laptop for news, reading, games, finances, video chat and some phone calls. I only use my laptop for work, excel and Photoshop.
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I use mine because it's so versatile, portable, and I'm still learning what I can use it for!! I just don't want to brick the thing!!!
I love mine!!
I posted this in the Gpad 8.3 thread but not everyone there will have a nexus 10 so i figured id better hands on experience here.
I'm debating a gpad 8.3 or a nexus 10.
Long as the screen size is greater then 8 inches (hence the two options im ok).
I was wondering if anyone had/has both and could tell me about performance.
Specifically the snapdragon 600 vs the exynos of the nexus 10. Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
I can get a used good nexus 10 on eBay for the same price as the gpad and trying to decide which.
I only do light / moderate gaming. My primary purpose will be video watching (thinking front speakers will be great for it), comic and ebook reading, surfing web, etc..
I've used both for several hours, but I own the Nexus 10. The Nexus 10 seems quite a bit faster doing normal activities, but the LG was 4.2.2 LG compared to my 4.4.2 with pure Android.
That being said, the LG is about one half the weight and thinner with not quite high end camera of the Nexus 10 although I never take pics with my tablet except to look at how good or bad they are. Both are stomped camera wise by my Nokia 920.
I like them both and might buy a LG 8.3, but really they are quite a bit different.
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Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
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Where'd you read/hear that? Amazing!
guardianali said:
Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
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I watch HD videos I copied to internal storage on my N10 and I never seen any stuttering. I watch Hulu with some episodes in HD and no stuttering. I've had no performance issues and its crashed once in the 4 weeks I've had it. I'm on stock 4.4.2 with Franco kernel.
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I only do light / moderate gaming. My primary purpose will be video watching (thinking front speakers will be great for it), comic and ebook reading, surfing web, etc..
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Very similar to my needs, the primary advantage the N10 has it is just plain easier on the eyes on a 10". I also do things like mine on the BBC TV streaming whilst I work on a laptop and the forward speakers are wonderful. For me the biggest weakness of N10 is obvious - its lack of pocketability, something like my N7 does that better, I imagine gpad would be somewhere in the middle. If I were buying new now (I had the N7 2012 first then the N10) I'd go with a used N10 and a new N7 and grab whichever for the day, which is primarily N10 when stationary and N7 when moving, you can use stickmount with both stuff it with videos. I bluetooth tether to my android phone and bluetooth fast enough for non-HD type streaming.
I know you said they are the same cost roughly (new gpad vs used N10) but probably if you bought and sold that gpad you'd be more out of pocket than if you bought and sold the N10 as new-to-used is quite a drop vs used-to-used tends to be less so.... on a per-day of ownership basis you're probably going to find it cheaper with a used N10. Good luck whichever you go for there's always some risk with any purchase whether new or used.
Well I think the lag thing has been fixed for a long time but the stigma has kind of stuck with the device
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Well I think the lag thing has been fixed for a long time but the stigma has kind of stuck with the device
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I did flash stock of 4.2.2. 4.3, 4.4 4.4.1 4.4.2 doing no "backup and restore" so its pure vanilla each time and did the most performance heavy stuff I frequently use. 4.4.2 is the fastest and most stable (others may find different conclusions). Don't do OTA and don't do any Google backup/restore they cause issues. The fact that OTA leaves legacy performance and stability issues is the most worrying because most people do stock and most people do OTA so they're holding in their hands something slower than if they did an ADB flash stock and writing opinions which aren't fair.
My N10 is faster than my N7 2012, my N4 is faster than both but that's because N4 has less than quarter the number of pixels than N10.
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Specifically the snapdragon 600 vs the exynos of the nexus 10. Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez. .
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I think you're asking the wrong question there. I'd focus on which size is best for you. The extra 2+ inches makes them very different devices.
If you sit with the tablet on your lap and type with one hand, the Nexus 10 is pretty good. But if you prefer to lie down and hold it like a book and type with your thumbs, an 8" tablet is a much better choice. I returned my Nexus 10 and moved to 8" tablets for this reason. Same for watching movies lying down. Your arms get tired eventually.
However I do hate non-front-facing speakers. That does make the 10 stand out for movie watching. And if you're going to set it on a table or your lap, the bigger screen is better.
Im looking for a tablet to replace my laptop and nexus 7 (2012)
My work load will be videos (On occasions) youtube, some light gaming, word processing (With keyboard) web browsing, spotify.
I am a student so it will be for work mostly with it all backed up to google cloud, for films I will OTG them over to the device so I don't use onboard storage.
I was looking at the Tab S 8.4 but I love Nexus and been very up to date.
So what is the battery life like for the Nexus 9 under a medium work load using office stuff, when I am gaming I will be near a plug.
So should I get a Nexus 9 or the Tab S?
Many thanks!
I only used Word on my N9 for a short time, but it works okay. Many 365/2010 features are absent on the Android version, so I'm not sure if it would replace your laptop usage. With my light usage 8hrs was the max I ever saw, when using it frequently 5-6.5hrs of SOT was typical. One thing you should consider is the battery life of your current laptop, as well as compatibility with whatever programs.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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Out of my price range im affaid
Amazon UK doing the 16GB version for £199 today click here
I would definitely recommend getting a Nexus 9. However, something to keep in mind is that it was released about 8 months ago and the two previous Nexus tablets, namely Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 7 (2013) were released about 1 year apart. This means that there may be a new Nexus tablet in about 4 months. Of course, Nexus 9 was released 4 months "late" so if Google does that again you may have at most 8 months, so Nexus 9 has already reached its half-life.
Whether you care about this or not is your choice, but it's something to keep in mind. I personally never buy or recommend anyone to buy a product that's reached its half-life.
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
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Out of my price range im affaid
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You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I tend to end up rooting my devices within 12 months so cyanogen mod should keep me floating for a few years, Google updates will do fine for a while, but I was also recently looking at the nvidia shield while it is cheaper, it also has as card support, hdmi and the other game things, so what would be supporting argument for n9, I love the nexus line but nvidia just seems to offer a bit more, but I love the Denver processor in the n9 also the screen and Google support
Thanks
performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I never said he couldn't use Windows - just that the experience of each device differs, which is true. Both devices have been operated by me, and I wouldn't suggest each to the same person, nor do I encourage iPad users to buy a Surface either.
8" Android tablet =/= 12" x86 Hybrid
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Surface pro also has a 10" device. A Nexus is far from replacing a laptop, but a surface pro can be used as a tablet, computer, note taking device (student), and run Android apps (bluestacks, myandy, etc..). I own a Nexus 9 and only use it for entertainment. I own a surface pro 3 (12 inch), and I do all of my school work on it. I write and record my lecture notes, highlight keypoints on pdf and other type of files, type (surface keyboard) documents on Google drive, use split screen to watch YouTube videos while I finish a document, and save my videos/pictures on a microsd card. The surface pro is such an amazing and productive device for a student.
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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For which device?
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For which device?
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if you're referring to the one i won't buy b/c i can't find a case... it's the lenovo tab 2. i've got the nexus 9 with a slim folio case.
the lackluster performance and battery life are the nexus 9 remarks. 5.1.1 did address the ramping up of the gpu and cpu to full speed when touching the screen, but it's still ramping up pretty high compaired to my galaxy note 10.1 2014. you'd figure being a more powerful device wouldn't have to draw so much power when interacting with it. using a custom rom and tuning the cpu and gpu down does yield better battery life, but at the cost of performance - it starts stuttering. i haven't tried undervolting or even checking if that was an option with the rom i'm using. that way i can keep the performance without sacrificing battery life. as it is, i get 7-8hours of use depending on how much i touch it. reading a book or watching a video can get me almost 10hours since i don't touch it much while doing those tasks.
just to clarify, the performance isn't from the cpu or gpu, but with the memory management. it just doesn't seem to get it right... i get screen redraws when i change tabs while browsing, i have to use a memory killer in order to not have it lock up daily... it's issues i had when i used a device with only 512MB of ram.
So would you say get the shield tablet over nexus 9
The shield is powerful but has issues of its own. While it has a mSD slot, you have to jump through hoops to get it to barely work. Apps cannot write to it directly. Nvidia is not very good yet at getting the basic features working properly. P.S. I have the shield tab.