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Just got mine, but initial impressions aren't all that positive. The N10 is my 6/7?th tablet, so I think I have some reasonable comparisons (original iPad, Xoom, Acer, Asus TF101,102, Prime, Infinity).
I really dislike the layout of the N10 Android home/back buttons. I use my tablets almost exclusively in landscape mode, so having to reach to to middle of the screen to find home or back buttons BLOWS. I have large hands but I hate having to move my hand rather than reaching with my thumbs - seems so unnecessary. I also dislike Chrome as the defacto browser because it doesn't have Flash and the usual Android stock browser (which is very good overall) isn't loaded - so forced to use other browsers (with their own quirks) that do support Flash. Frankly, until every site on the net is available in HTML5, every device needs Flash support.
While the screen is nice, it's not something I noticed was mind blowingingly better than than the Asus Infinity (nor the Prime for that matter). I use my tablet all day long for reading and I don't find the resolution improvement offers much improvement.
The really nice thing about the N10 is the speaker locations. Makes a meaningful improvement over rear facing speakers on the Prime/Infinity. That said, volume is still too low - have to get an aftermarket app (like SpeakerBoost) to get volume up to decent levels for noisy environments.
Battery life seems good - better than the Asus Infinity/Prime, but obviously no dock to goose battery life a lot more. USB charger is slow on the N10. Asus wins that contest hands down.
Build quality seems good, but Asus Infinity is so much nicer (and thinner and lighter).
N10 offers smooth scrolling so the processor works nicely. Chrome works buttery smooth, but alas, lack of Flash is ridiculous as so many sites I visit still use Flash.
I'll keep for a few more days to see if it grows on me, but I think it's going back for a refund...
That said, if the N10 is your first high end tablet, you'll like it...
Wait a second, so you prefer the build and materials over smoothness and performance? What kind of cracked out world are we living in?
The browser is replaceable and flash is easily implemented so the only thing that you mention is feel and build. Maybe flesh out a little better of why you prefer the infinity or you will end up looking like that pierrekid moron.
You can solve your 2 main issues pretty easily actually :
Buttons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010280
Browser: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006215
Tomatoes8 said:
...What kind of cracked out world are we living in?
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The same world where somebody could mistake a Nexus 7 as an iPad Mini, before the iPad Mini was even released
The N10 is not using Tablet UI which explains why the navigation buttons are in the bottom-center. Tablet UI since 4.2 is deprecated in Google's eyes.
The N10 is also the "Google" experience, which is why Chrome is included by default. Flash player on Jellybean is not supported, and there's nothing you nor anyone else can do to warrant any kind of support from Google or Adobe regarding such matters. With this said though, there are various methods for getting Flash Player working on Jellybean. On devices that use an older OS (ICS for example), I guess Flash Player works just fine. Also... I run into very few sites that "require" flash player.
And... since this is a Nexus device, you can easily tailor the device to your needs. Your not forced with a lockdown bootloader, unlocking the bootloader doesn't void warranty, and the Nexus 10 is the best device supported on AOSP currently, which means customizing the Android experience should be... relatively easy for anyone (with experience). That button-location thing I mentioned, can be fixed with some modifications.
I haven't owned a Infinity, so I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure the Nexus 10 is more "open".
I would take chrome over transformers laggy browsers. They have terrible stock browsers. (Yes, download another one.) Tf201 was a TERRIBLE tablet! Battery was good but gps didnt work, bluetooth and wifi couldnt be used at the same time, wifi had terrible signal. Looked nice but that's about it. Nexus wins this.
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Nothing mentioned in the OP should be an issue for anyone who has owned a Nexus device or has minimal knowledge on how to root and use custom roms/kernels.
WilliamShakespeare said:
Just got mine, but initial impressions aren't all that positive. The N10 is my 6/7?th tablet, so I think I have some reasonable comparisons (original iPad, Xoom, Acer, Asus TF101,102, Prime, Infinity).
I really dislike the layout of the N10 Android home/back buttons. I use my tablets almost exclusively in landscape mode, so having to reach to to middle of the screen to find home or back buttons BLOWS. I have large hands but I hate having to move my hand rather than reaching with my thumbs - seems so unnecessary. I also dislike Chrome as the defacto browser because it doesn't have Flash and the usual Android stock browser (which is very good overall) isn't loaded - so forced to use other browsers (with their own quirks) that do support Flash. Frankly, until every site on the net is available in HTML5, every device needs Flash support.
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bee answered your question. It's a very easy thing to accomplish. You can achieve your desired preference in future ROMs and in present ROMs available for the N10.
WilliamShakespeare said:
While the screen is nice, it's not something I noticed was mind blowingingly better than than the Asus Infinity (nor the Prime for that matter). I use my tablet all day long for reading and I don't find the resolution improvement offers much improvement.
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Are you being serious? If there's anything to gripe about it's the apps that have not been updated to provide the optimal performance for the N10, you'll have to be patient for the community to catch up to the specifications of the N10. They're beyond amazing when they have proper support compared to older tablets. The image quality is definitely noticeable in this case.
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The really nice thing about the N10 is the speaker locations. Makes a meaningful improvement over rear facing speakers on the Prime/Infinity. That said, volume is still too low - have to get an aftermarket app (like SpeakerBoost) to get volume up to decent levels for noisy environments.
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Yes the speaker locations are paramount. They should have always been the standard - which they will be now.
When playing movies using MX Player or playing music through Google Music, I have to turn the volume down as it gets too loud so I disagree with the volume being too low.
You honestly have to have hard of hearing to believe that. Why would anyone in a noisy enviroment not use headphones? The device comes with a headphone jack which would make sense to utilize in such enviroments.
For example:
Listening to music on a portable device such as the N10 when you're in a room with other people playing games (causing lots of noise) and then complaining about the volume being too low is being ignorant. Use your headphones.
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Battery life seems good - better than the Asus Infinity/Prime, but obviously no dock to goose battery life a lot more. USB charger is slow on the N10. Asus wins that contest hands down.
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You're comparing something to nothing. The pogo charger/dock hasn't been released for the N10 yet so resorting to comparing it to the stock charger, which only takes 5½ hours for me to charge from 0% is excellent for a 9000mah battery, is moot and completely nullifies your comparison. You should wait until Samsung/Google releases the pogo charger and/or keyboard dock.
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Build quality seems good, but Asus Infinity is so much nicer (and thinner and lighter).
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Build quality is superb for the Nexus 10. It really doesn't matter as it's all subjective and differs from individual to individual.
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N10 offers smooth scrolling so the processor works nicely. Chrome works buttery smooth, but alas, lack of Flash is ridiculous as so many sites I visit still use Flash.
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There are alternatives to achieve the desired results.
WilliamShakespeare said:
I'll keep for a few more days to see if it grows on me, but I think it's going back for a refund...
That said, if the N10 is your first high end tablet, you'll like it...
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The only thing that the Infinity would have over the N10 is the microSD expansion slot and maybe the camera, but who takes photos with tablets for art? Congrats.
Screen and screen resolution is inferior
Only has 1GB of ram
An abysmal 224ppi - tablets for that cost should have better ppi for a better picture quality.
Only supports MP3
so on so forth.
Someone who doesn't appreciate the price per power ratio of the N10 doesn't deserve to own one.
Return it and be gone.
Im sorry but you must be high or something. I came from the A500, GTab 10.1, Prime, Infinity then Note 10.1. The only tablet that I would consider going back to which I dont because the N10 is a beast, is the Note 10.1.
The Infinity has lots of problems and we all know what they are. I gladly sacrificed the keyboard dock for the N10 which wil be on craigslist shortly.
If you dont realize what you got there then its best that you do return your N10 and head back to the Infinity/Prime forum.
Oh and the screen... its definitely better then the Infinity in everyway.
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The Infinity is 0.5mm thinner and 5g lighter. I can't imagine how a human would actually notice that difference.
Folks,
give the OP some slack here. I can see how someone coming from TF700 would not see the N10 as a quantum leap.
Let me tell you a little secret ... I ordered the N10 about an hr after it went up for sale ... cancelled the order 20 mins later ... just could not think of why it would be so much better compared to the ... drum roll ... the TF101 I have ( I have 2 in the household ).
I am still hoping and praying that Sammy will release what was known as P10 , after the contractually obligated "do not compete" clause expires.
Dock, stylus, expansion slots ... CES may be ? Something that is free of Google's idiotic restrictions ...
Good luck waiting for dock and/or charger for N10
I just have one question:
You said USB charging on the Infinity was better. I had the Infinity for a while before I got my N10, and I could never actually get it to charge via USB. I'm still curious as how to actually get it to work.
I am wondering how you can even compare things that are clearly OS version and app dependent ??
Flash / Browser , yada yada yada ...
4.2 does not support flash end of story, you have to sideload or use something non-stock, it if you want flash to work.
So when you get 4.2.1 STOCK AOSP on the Infinity then you could actually make a fair comparison.
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Folks,
give the OP some slack here. I can see how someone coming from TF700 would not see the N10 as a quantum leap.
Let me tell you a little secret ... I ordered the N10 about an hr after it went up for sale ... cancelled the order 20 mins later ... just could not think of why it would be so much better compared to the ... drum roll ... the TF101 I have ( I have 2 in the household ).
I am still hoping and praying that Sammy will release what was known as P10 , after the contractually obligated "do not compete" clause expires.
Dock, stylus, expansion slots ... CES may be ? Something that is free of Google's idiotic restrictions ...
Good luck waiting for dock and/or charger for N10
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It makes sense to compare a tablet you own to the N10, but to go as far as saying there's another tablet that's factually better than the Nexus 10 with the points the OP claimed are anything but him having buyers remorse and trolling.
The reason I'm not going from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 is because it's not a large enough gap in technology to warrant buying a new phone. The OP bought the N10 expecting it to project holograms and provide time travel and was disappointed it didn't so says that an inferior device is better than said device. It makes no sense. If it's not the upgrade you expected, don't blast the device. It's better than any of the tablets he mentioned albeit not a substantial upgrade.
I'm not going around the Nexus 4 forums saying the Galaxy Nexus is better because the upgrades are minimal compared to what I already own.
It's just irrelevant and ignorant to say such things with little to no context other than self-absorbed remorse.
This thread should be closed. It's pointless and disappointing.
I still can't figure it out. Unless build materials and weight is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than performance and battery life, which he admitted was superior on the Nexus 10, it doesn't make any sense.
His other issues are easily fixed through the play store or side load.
I wish the OP and and pierrekid would just cut out the BS politics and just come out and say I love Asus or I hate Google/Samsung build materials. Honesty is something that is sorely missing in today's society. Can't say I blame them though, sometimes you have to flat out lie to get ahead.
I myself have owned both a prime and an infinity, and back when I owned them, prayed daily that Google would release a 10inch tablet to the market. When they announced it, I knew I would give away my ASUS counterparts in a heartbeat no matter what. The prime/infinity had such lagginess, even with custom roms, you could tell the I/O suffered immensely
I couldn't be happier with my N10. It's a f*ck*in monster, and the screen res blows away the infinity. Put em up side by side...you can tell a difference.
I would never go back to ASUS again. I can't even believe this is a discussion. There were so many unhappy asus owners, and hell...there still are this very day!
God bless Google and doing the Nexus 4, 7 and 10. They are an ARMY!
Buttons that are centered, can easily be solved in the near future with a custom rom. Not to mention anything else you have as a pet peeve
How would anyone prefer the Asus tablet when it is confirmed it has a poor hardware memory which causes slowdowns and freezes?
Maybe you haven't heard about the I/O problems with Asus tablets...
No way a tablet with memory hardware problems is better than the nexus 10.
Agreed
Had 2 Asus Tf700 and I return both them back..
Too much problem
1-Bluetooth lag
2-It couldn't handle a lot media files
3-Dead trigger was crashing on my device all the time,called Madfinger and they know what to the me.
4-Stupid Asus want to follow Apple footsteps, only one speaker....
Etc.....
The only good thing about the TF700 is the aluminum body.
Glad Google come out with this device..
PS:And don't have to wait for an update when it is released...
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I agree with the OP, the nexus 10 is my 3rd tablet(the other 2 are the trasformer tf300 and the Infinity). Both tf300 and the Infinity play somewhat fine with Blu ray movies in MKV format. Hoping for better smoothness and performance in videos with the Nexus 10, i was disappointing to find out the Infinity did better than the Nexus 10 in video playback(using mxplayer pro)
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I agree with the OP, the nexus 10 is my 3rd tablet(the other 2 are the trasformer tf300 and the Infinity). Both tf300 and the Infinity play somewhat fine with Blu ray movies in MKV format. Hoping for better smoothness and performance in videos with the Nexus 10, i was disappointing to find out the Infinity did better than the Nexus 10 in video playback(using mxplayer pro)
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Media playback will improve once media players are updated to support the N10's GPU. I've had to use software rending 5 out of 10 times with the videos I've watched.
The idea of this thread is ridiculous to me. This tablet has been exactly what I hoped it to be. I can actually still use my tablet while updating apps. I can open more than one webpage without immense stuttering (even complex ones), and I can switch between them without waiting an unbearably long time (thank you, 2GB of ram). I can switch between apps with very minimal delay (that is nicely covered up by a system animation). In short - I can use my tablet without it getting in the way.
I guess I can add to that the fact that the build quality on mine seems stellar, and light bleed is virtually non-existent. I love the material on the back. And I haven't had any issues with resets.
This is the tablet that I can just use without getting frustrated. I may eventually want to install a custom rom and theme it (something I have done to every device I have owned in the last 6 years). Heck, this seems like a perfect candidate for one of the "prettier" themes. But right now, I'm just enjoying using it.
Most things you mentioned can be fixed. Use boat browser and install flash on it manually, its really fast and flash works with no problems.
I don't like the stock Nav bar too and use Lmt instead, gives me the full 10 inch real estate and is convenient to use.
This tablet is awesome and I have used tons of tablet in the past, Plus its a nexus device and there is already tons of development in the forums in addition to the up to date android os
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Considering selling my nexus 7 16gb to glyde.com since there willing to give me $147 and some change. Not a bad loss on it considering its now selling new for $200.
My current situation is I have a note 2 which I love and a nexus 7 at home to use. It is a noticeable jump, but still not that crazy of a jump. The new android version on the nexus 7 is a bit annoying, hate the newer style lock screen and some lag since updating.
What should I know about making the jump? Is there any others that came from a nexus 7? What's your feelings on the switch?
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Considering selling my nexus 7 16gb to glyde.com since there willing to give me $147 and some change. Not a bad loss on it considering its now selling new for $200.
My current situation is I have a note 2 which I love and a nexus 7 at home to use. It is a noticeable jump, but still not that crazy of a jump. The new android version on the nexus 7 is a bit annoying, hate the newer style lock screen and some lag since updating.
What should I know about making the jump? Is there any others that came from a nexus 7? What's your feelings on the switch?
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I ditched my Nexus 7 two weeks ago.
It is the same buggy 4.2.1 version of Android that the Nexus 7 has. Like the Nexus 7 though the ROM and kernel developers have tamed it.
The screen is like night and day, and it is a lot faster.
I do miss my Nexus 7 a lot though. Even now I still reach for it by reflex when leaving the house.. The portability and small form factor was awesome for out of the house.
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N7 is a great device but I love my N10, no regrets! You gain HDMI out, rear camera, speed, screen resolution and lose some portability.
I did kind of like gaming on my N7 more than on my N10 (holding the N7 is a bit easier for me anyway), but I love the way games look on my N10 more than my N7
My mom got gifted the nexus 7 and I loved playing with it. I got the nexus 10 but it was a tough decision. The price and the form factor for the 7 is amazing.
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I have both and the thing is I havebeen using my N10 more, but I use it for work alot so I like having thw bigger screen and resolution. But N7 is still an awesome tab.
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Sold out ( hopefully they get more in soon. Can't decide between a 16 or 32. My n7 is 16 only because they didn't have 32 at the time
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styckx said:
I ditched my Nexus 7 two weeks ago.
It is the same buggy 4.2.1 version of Android that the Nexus 7 has. Like the Nexus 7 though the ROM and kernel developers have tamed it.
The screen is like night and day, and it is a lot faster.
I do miss my Nexus 7 a lot though. Even now I still reach for it by reflex when leaving the house.. The portability and small form factor was awesome for out of the house.
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I went from the seven to the ten, and I'm not gonna lie, although I do miss the seven, the ten definitely bests it in pretty much every area, except foot portability. I took my seven with me everywhere. The extra size on the ten is nice for watching movies, and I would hate to take a loss in performance, but I'm honestly thinking of returning my ten and saving $250 bucks by just getting another seven and waiting to see what comes out in the following months.
Buy if you've decided to spend the money I seriously doubt you will regret making the switch. Definitely an upgrade in every area except for portability.
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I have both,
N7 is now used to read books (couch, stationary bike, sauna), play Pandora or tunein radio in my speakers, check emails.
N10 I use it to browse internet mainly, it is much much faster than the N7.
Nexus 4 is just a communication device(lot of sms, calls, whatsapp, viber, quick emails, stocks, weather)
I'm glad I'm able to use the 3 of them. They all have areas where they shine.
If i would need to choose between N7 and N10, I'll probably choose N10.
The N7's size is both a blessing and a curse. As much as I like the portability having a larger screen is worth a little less portability and ergonomics IMO.
I thought about going with an N7 but every time I used it I was left wanting more from the screen. I couldn't be happier with the N10 at this point.
Rear-facing camera is the biggest thing that basically ended my debate on whether to get a N7 with 3G, or N10. I rely on my N10's rear camera a good bit
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Rear-facing camera is the biggest thing that basically ended my debate on whether to get a N7 with 3G, or N10. I rely on my N10's rear camera a good bit
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You know what I hate most about the rear facing camera on the N10? That it's actually really good.. I prided myself in mocking people who used a tablet as a camera.. Now... I'm that guy.. The N10 camera takes remarkably crisp pictures..
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You know what I hate most about the rear facing camera on the N10? That it's actually really good.. I prided myself in mocking people who used a tablet as a camera.. Now... I'm that guy.. The N10 camera takes remarkably crisp pictures..
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Lol yeah it does take good pictures even in relatively low light.
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I ditched my Nexus 7 two weeks ago.
It is the same buggy 4.2.1 version of Android that the Nexus 7 has. Like the Nexus 7 though the ROM and kernel developers have tamed it.
The screen is like night and day, and it is a lot faster.
I do miss my Nexus 7 a lot though. Even now I still reach for it by reflex when leaving the house.. The portability and small form factor was awesome for out of the house.
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Seriously considering ditching my 16Gb Nexus7 for something larger, but as you said the form factor and portability is pretty cool... You mention 4.2.1 being buggy - in what way ? I've not noticed anything overt yet.
just out of curiousity. did you guys go with the 16 or 32? I have a 16 now that I havent filled up, mostly because i dont leave all my games on it at the same time. With the N7 the 32 seemed to do better in performance when closer to being filled.
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just out of curiousity. did you guys go with the 16 or 32? I have a 16 now that I havent filled up, mostly because i dont leave all my games on it at the same time. With the N7 the 32 seemed to do better in performance when closer to being filled.
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All depends on your tab usage. I don't store anything on my tab other than PDFs and pictures taken with the tab camera. So 16 GB and a $100 saved is money saved as I don't see an extra 16 GB worth the price difference. But if you have a lot of apps and games and what not of are just plain weird to use the tab as an mp3 repository then 32 should be a minimum.
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I have both,
N7 is now used to read books (couch, stationary bike, sauna), play Pandora or tunein radio in my speakers, check emails.
N10 I use it to browse internet mainly, it is much much faster than the N7.
Nexus 4 is just a communication device(lot of sms, calls, whatsapp, viber, quick emails, stocks, weather)
I'm glad I'm able to use the 3 of them. They all have areas where they shine.
If i would need to choose between N7 and N10, I'll probably choose N10.
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I'm browsing around here contemplating going to Staples to pick up a N10-32. Local store shows it in stock. Have a N7-16 and N4-16. Glad to see I'm not the only one crazy (stupid?) enough to contemplate all 3!
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just out of curiousity. did you guys go with the 16 or 32? I have a 16 now that I havent filled up, mostly because i dont leave all my games on it at the same time. With the N7 the 32 seemed to do better in performance when closer to being filled.
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Very interesting to see different opinions, having the ipad and 7 I find myself to always bring the 7 everywhere I go, the portability is hard to beat
Figured I'd ask here rather than start a new thread. I've already got an Acer A200 (which my girlfriend gave back to me after she got a HOX) and an N7. With the N7 and an N4, I feel a little redundant already, but adding the A200 in, it feels a little much. But! It doesn't bother me, and I reaaaaaaally want an N10..
my question is this: anyone who has an N10, N7, and N4 (or similarly sized phone), what do you use each for? Or do you find yourself using one more than the other? Looking more so for testimonials I suppose.
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Hello,
Simply as the title says, is the Nexus 10 worth it over the Nexus 7 besides the extra screen size (price not an issue)?
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Crazysah
Yes
And the Nexus 7 will be getting a whole new model in 3 months. It will have a Snapdraon 600 processor, probably get an upgrade to 2GB of RAM like everything new does now days, and hopefully will also get a resolution bump. Once it gets this new model upgrade the choice between these two tablets might become harder.
My main reasons for liking the Nexus 10 more are:
- Rear-facing camera + flash
- Vibration
- Screen Resolution
- Specs
Imo, totally worth it The only downside that bothers me is portability, but meh.
The only thing that may concern me is how fast it runs while streaming and playing games and battery life on the Nexus 10.
Otherwise it looks to be the tablet for me definitely.
A real-world non-technical comparison:
My wife and daughter each have a Nexus 7, and they're both very envious of my Nexus 10 that I've had since last week.
They both like the bigger screen, and my wife commented that she likes the colours on my Nexus 10 better. Her Nexus 7 looks a bit washed-out when side-by-side with my Nexus 10. She also thinks it feels faster, but that's just her subjective view obviously.
As a Nexus 10 and 7 owner.. get the 10..
In my family we have two Nexus 10's and a Nexus 7. I was the one using the Nexus 7, with my wife having a Nexus 10 for months. I became envious of her Nexus 10 and got my own several days ago. My daughter uses the Nexus 7 and is in love with it. It's the perfect size for her. If i had to choose between them (and I just did), I'd get a Nexus 10 because of the screen. The Nexus 7's screen isn't bad necessarily but the 10's screen is really good. I love reading PDFs on it now, couldn't say that with the 7.
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I personally think that they are too different to simply ponder which one should i get. To me they both have very different uses due to their form factor.
My N10 is absolutely fantastic, one of the best uses of my money in a long long time, but that said, due to it's size, it is either for home use or for when i'm on a coach or sat in the car for an hour waiting to pick someone up. The N7 would not satisfy me in these situations, but with a N7 or similar small tablet, it could feasibly slip in a pocket, be taken to the shop with me (i use my N10 a lot as a cookbook) or just generally out and about without having to consider lugging an 11" device around, i'm not the type to have a backpack or such, it's pockets or nothing.
as such, i love my N10, but am also considering selling an old computer that's not doing anything and using some of the money to buy a smaller device to complement my N10, just gotta decide which smaller device to consider. I do rather like the notion of a good stylus.
So yes, for me it's a question on usage, not which is better based on technical spec.
I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
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I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
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Battery life seems to vary from user to user, 8-9 hours being normal it seems. Some seem to only get 4-5, not sure what they do with their tablet, while some using different roms are getting 10+ without an issue. I've never tested mine although i watched an HD copy of the avengers on a coach, using headphones, and wifi off, and i was at 76% battery life about 2 and a half hours later, so good enough for me I played a game the other day for the first time, Arcane Legends, and while i didn't play for very long, it seemed that my battery was dropping at an alarming rate, as in mere hours of play time before running out of juice.
As to streaming, hit and miss. As you know, there is no longer any proper flash support. I've found most sites do not work for me, however this might be fixable through a different browser but i have not tried as the youtube app is all i need, anything streamed will be done on my computer.
No Android device will officially support flash anymore, so both the Nexus 7 and 10 fall into the same category here as "hit and miss" with finding a stable web browser than has flash integrated into it.
Nexus 10 for me but nexus 7 is definetly easier to carry around. But that is not even a factor for me.
It's basically if you want to carry it with you all the time vs if you want to use it in more stationary way. Or have very weak hands that can't hold it for long.
Can someone check if firstrowsports.eu works? That's what I most care about. Check if you can view any matches.
Couldn't seem to watch anything using chrome browser just now.
Ah damn. Maybe I can use OnLive Desktop like I did for the iPad.
You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You don't need root to flash a custom ROM, nor do you need that particular ROM either.
You need at the very least, a custom recovery. TWRP and CWM are the only options in this regard. Next, you can either:
- Install AOSP's browser on stock ROM
- Install a custom ROM that has AOSP's browser
And there's plenty of custom ROM's that include AOSP's browser. Next, you'll need to grab the legitimate flash player from Adobe's archive site for ICS, install it, and bam, done. No idea what that flash hack is you mention...
That's just the Keywords I remember putting into Google and the flash thing was like the third page
Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
Crazysah said:
Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
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The Nexus 10 is a little limited. It handles MP4, and M4V fine but a no go on MKV. It'll play but jerky and stutters. It also has played some WMAs without issue. As for audio I am not sure, of course mp3 is fine and I think flac works as well
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Im looking for a tablet to replace my laptop and nexus 7 (2012)
My work load will be videos (On occasions) youtube, some light gaming, word processing (With keyboard) web browsing, spotify.
I am a student so it will be for work mostly with it all backed up to google cloud, for films I will OTG them over to the device so I don't use onboard storage.
I was looking at the Tab S 8.4 but I love Nexus and been very up to date.
So what is the battery life like for the Nexus 9 under a medium work load using office stuff, when I am gaming I will be near a plug.
So should I get a Nexus 9 or the Tab S?
Many thanks!
I only used Word on my N9 for a short time, but it works okay. Many 365/2010 features are absent on the Android version, so I'm not sure if it would replace your laptop usage. With my light usage 8hrs was the max I ever saw, when using it frequently 5-6.5hrs of SOT was typical. One thing you should consider is the battery life of your current laptop, as well as compatibility with whatever programs.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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car.los.7399 said:
I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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Out of my price range im affaid
Amazon UK doing the 16GB version for £199 today click here
I would definitely recommend getting a Nexus 9. However, something to keep in mind is that it was released about 8 months ago and the two previous Nexus tablets, namely Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 7 (2013) were released about 1 year apart. This means that there may be a new Nexus tablet in about 4 months. Of course, Nexus 9 was released 4 months "late" so if Google does that again you may have at most 8 months, so Nexus 9 has already reached its half-life.
Whether you care about this or not is your choice, but it's something to keep in mind. I personally never buy or recommend anyone to buy a product that's reached its half-life.
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
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Out of my price range im affaid
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You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I tend to end up rooting my devices within 12 months so cyanogen mod should keep me floating for a few years, Google updates will do fine for a while, but I was also recently looking at the nvidia shield while it is cheaper, it also has as card support, hdmi and the other game things, so what would be supporting argument for n9, I love the nexus line but nvidia just seems to offer a bit more, but I love the Denver processor in the n9 also the screen and Google support
Thanks
performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I never said he couldn't use Windows - just that the experience of each device differs, which is true. Both devices have been operated by me, and I wouldn't suggest each to the same person, nor do I encourage iPad users to buy a Surface either.
8" Android tablet =/= 12" x86 Hybrid
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Surface pro also has a 10" device. A Nexus is far from replacing a laptop, but a surface pro can be used as a tablet, computer, note taking device (student), and run Android apps (bluestacks, myandy, etc..). I own a Nexus 9 and only use it for entertainment. I own a surface pro 3 (12 inch), and I do all of my school work on it. I write and record my lecture notes, highlight keypoints on pdf and other type of files, type (surface keyboard) documents on Google drive, use split screen to watch YouTube videos while I finish a document, and save my videos/pictures on a microsd card. The surface pro is such an amazing and productive device for a student.
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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For which device?
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For which device?
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if you're referring to the one i won't buy b/c i can't find a case... it's the lenovo tab 2. i've got the nexus 9 with a slim folio case.
the lackluster performance and battery life are the nexus 9 remarks. 5.1.1 did address the ramping up of the gpu and cpu to full speed when touching the screen, but it's still ramping up pretty high compaired to my galaxy note 10.1 2014. you'd figure being a more powerful device wouldn't have to draw so much power when interacting with it. using a custom rom and tuning the cpu and gpu down does yield better battery life, but at the cost of performance - it starts stuttering. i haven't tried undervolting or even checking if that was an option with the rom i'm using. that way i can keep the performance without sacrificing battery life. as it is, i get 7-8hours of use depending on how much i touch it. reading a book or watching a video can get me almost 10hours since i don't touch it much while doing those tasks.
just to clarify, the performance isn't from the cpu or gpu, but with the memory management. it just doesn't seem to get it right... i get screen redraws when i change tabs while browsing, i have to use a memory killer in order to not have it lock up daily... it's issues i had when i used a device with only 512MB of ram.
So would you say get the shield tablet over nexus 9
The shield is powerful but has issues of its own. While it has a mSD slot, you have to jump through hoops to get it to barely work. Apps cannot write to it directly. Nvidia is not very good yet at getting the basic features working properly. P.S. I have the shield tab.
I'm searching for a "good low-cost" tablet that I will use mainly for reading comics/manga, watching tv shows on netflix and browsing on chrome (no gaming as I do that on my pc). I always wanted to try this tablet mainly for being a nexus (I have the N5 and N6p) and the screen.
Do you still recommend this tablet? What dou think is its max price?
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I'm searching for a "good low-cost" tablet that I will use mainly for reading comics/manga, watching tv shows on netflix and browsing on chrome (no gaming as I do that on my pc). I always wanted to try this tablet mainly for being a nexus (I have the N5 and N6p) and the screen.
Do you still recommend this tablet? What dou think is its max price?
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Watching videos on the N9 is great-screen quality, but you might not like the ratio. Comic books would be ok. It's lousy (at least mine is) at web browsing. I would say be very careful purchasing one. Some have been crappy right from the assembly line. Some have been great-not mine, but it's still working as long as I factory reset at least every 2 months.
You have 2 of the best phones google put out. My N5 still works (had to change the battery). Still have the GNex and the N4. Got 6P for one son and it's been super. I'm using a 5X for main phone. I've had both N7's and recently bought Acer r11 Chromebook. The N9 is the worst of my collection. I won't even consider any HTC device now. Just my opinion.
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Watching videos on the N9 is great-screen quality, but you might not like the ratio. Comic books would be ok. It's lousy (at least mine is) at web browsing. I would say be very careful purchasing one. Some have been crappy right from the assembly line. Some have been great-not mine, but it's still working as long as I factory reset at least every 2 months.
You have 2 of the best phones google put out. My N5 still works (had to change the battery). Still have the GNex and the N4. Got 6P for one son and it's been super. I'm using a 5X for main phone. I've had both N7's and recently bought Acer r11 Chromebook. The N9 is the worst of my collection. I won't even consider any HTC device now. Just my opinion.
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I'll buy from ebay so I won't have a chance to try it and I was worried after I read all the issues it had.
I see that it is like the N6P if you are lucky you will get an awesome device.
I'll watch some ebay deals and I'll probably take one if the price is good as I don't like the kindle fire and all the tablet under 200 euro. I thought about going into chromebook but I don't know if the experience would be better or not.
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I'll buy from ebay so I won't have a chance to try it and I was worried after I read all the issues it had.
I see that it is like the N6P if you are lucky you will get an awesome device.
I'll watch some ebay deals and I'll probably take one if the price is good as I don't like the kindle fire and all the tablet under 200 euro. I thought about going into chromebook but I don't know if the experience would be better or not.
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You're right, it's a dice roll. But there are more good than bad. If you get a good one, hey it's a Nexus (very flash friendly). And the screen is great for movies and comics. Aspect is off for movies but not a big deal. Not as many ROMs as n7 (2013), I came from that. Oreo isn't quite ready yet (the hardware acceleration not working). But lineage is working on oreo.
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You're right, it's a dice roll. But there are more good than bad. If you get a good one, hey it's a Nexus (very flash friendly). And the screen is great for movies and comics. Aspect is off for movies but not a big deal. Not as many ROMs as n7 (2013), I came from that. Oreo isn't quite ready yet (the acceleration not working). But lineage is working on oreo.
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I noticed that the builds for Oreo (AOSP and LOS) are taking a longer time compared to pevious versions. In a few hours maybe I'll have my N9, I'll spend max 140 euro.
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ipad pro , surface pro or samsung galaxy is good , just super expensive. The nexus tablets seem to do fairly well.
I have the XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro ( xp-pen.com/product/65.html ) Pen display tablet for making comics , and I totally prefer drawing directly on a screen. it support pen pressure and pen tilt function , it's amazing and I’ve had a good experience with it .