I'm leaving tomorrow on a cycle tour and don't have time to optimize this myself so am seeking advice:
I'm want to flash my i717 with rom(+kernel) that's gonna be stable and provide good battery performance. I also like the idea of pi controls but they're not essentials; I flashed flappjax latest 4.2.2 (march 31) and the pi control weren't working in desktop mode.
I've also heard about Jelly beer and that's it's very stable and good on battery, however I don't know how well it supports (and is sill supported on) i717 and whether http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote/attroms/JellyBeer/JellyBeer-v3.57.2-quincyatt.zip is the latest download link or not.
I also heard rootBox is minimal, stable and I think good on battery life, however, the only place I see it available for i717 is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199598 and it seems to no longer be supported, but maybe it's worth a flash.
In addition, would I also benefit from flashing a custom kernel? Like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147095 , for example; I've heard it's great on battery life. What combinations of ROMs, kernels and best practices do you have for optimizing stability with battery life in a jelly bean (or even ics package).
I'm currently using the SOA rom with the kernel it came with. I flashed the new ucmb4 modem and I'm very happy! I don't have pie controls though. If you want pie on any rom there's always 3rd party software I wasn't a fan of this app. Rootbox was a nice and battery friendly rom with pie until the april releases. Those weren't stable for me or others. Flappp's roms are always nice but haven't been as battery friendly as the SOA rom. and like you said the 3-31 pie isn't working on FJ's.
To be perfectly honest, bar-none the best battery/stability experience I've had is on the 4.0.4-based stock ROMs like Padawan and Blackstar X. In particular, Blackstar X with the AOSP Theme + Jason's white toggle theme has been (since I have always preferred the AOSP layout of custom ROMs) has performed the best for me, for both battery and stability. Just as an example, I'm ALWAYS on my phone and I still only discharge at about 6-7% per hour (compared to 15-20% on 4.2 and 4.1 ROMs). If I'm not on my phone (like at night), I go down at 2%/hour (compared to like 10% per hour on 4.2 and 4.1 if I'm lucky). Plus, ZERO reboots.
They're smooth as silk, as well.
CPA said it best ..
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CPA Poke said:
To be perfectly honest, bar-none the best battery/stability experience I've had is on the 4.0.4-based stock ROMs like Padawan and Blackstar X. In particular, Blackstar X with the AOSP Theme + Jason's white toggle theme has been (since I have always preferred the AOSP layout of custom ROMs) has performed the best for me, for both battery and stability. Just as an example, I'm ALWAYS on my phone and I still only discharge at about 6-7% per hour (compared to 15-20% on 4.2 and 4.1 ROMs). If I'm not on my phone (like at night), I go down at 2%/hour (compared to like 10% per hour on 4.2 and 4.1 if I'm lucky). Plus, ZERO reboots.
They're smooth as silk, as well.
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I am going to try your combination, actually! you are a very good lad for sharing
thank you! :highfive:
i hope i get more or less the same outcome.. i get the same 15-20% hour usage per hour on 4.2 and 4.1..
i find it too ambitious to wanting to be on the latest android release when ics is basically being very updated when it comes to apps and stuff
and google now is dumb(to me), i am moreso a classic user
I enjoy customisation and stuff so im on some paranoid rom but honestly it isn't giving the best performance and battery life(for me, but for others it works wonders it seems.. but they DO have the non OEM batteries for it, so that doesnt say much)
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I myself have flashed everything out there and nothing gets better battery life to me then gingerbread ...... I find it almost pointless for me to try to make the most out of my battery due to the fact I use my phone constantly and its less hassle to just charge the phone when needed ... I have had good success with battery life in most ROMs it just takes time and tweaking .. I usually stick with a ROM for about a week or 2 figure out how that ROM is suitable and change hence my screen name ... Hope you get the combo your trying to get :good luck
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CPA Poke said:
To be perfectly honest, bar-none the best battery/stability experience I've had is on the 4.0.4-based stock ROMs like Padawan and Blackstar X. In particular, Blackstar X with the AOSP Theme + Jason's white toggle theme has been (since I have always preferred the AOSP layout of custom ROMs) has performed the best for me, for both battery and stability. Just as an example, I'm ALWAYS on my phone and I still only discharge at about 6-7% per hour (compared to 15-20% on 4.2 and 4.1 ROMs). If I'm not on my phone (like at night), I go down at 2%/hour (compared to like 10% per hour on 4.2 and 4.1 if I'm lucky). Plus, ZERO reboots.
They're smooth as silk, as well.
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Which kernel do you use with Blackstar X, stock or h0tcakez? And why do you chose X instead of XI? Is it possible to get fast charge on 4.0.4 ROMs?
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I myself have flashed everything out there and nothing gets better battery life to me then gingerbread ...... I find it almost pointless for me to try to make the most out of my battery due to the fact I use my phone constantly and its less hassle to just charge the phone when needed ... I have had good success with battery life in most ROMs it just takes time and tweaking .. I usually stick with a ROM for about a week or 2 figure out how that ROM is suitable and change hence my screen name ... Hope you get the combo your trying to get :good luck
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same with me.. well its my first week using my new note(joining the club pretty late as theres a note 2 and even 3 round the corner) and so far ive tried a couple.. this blackstar x is known for being good for battery life and i have it on right now and it TRULY has great battery life, and i havent done my typical autorun's tweaking nor any build.prop edits( as i had on my previous galaxy phones/droids).. and its on its original kernel and so far so good, very fast and nof orce closes unless i really caused them(pinching on all the dpi's shown haha) but so far so good
If its having very decent battery life without all my usual tweaks then it means its superb.. However it lack the customisations as it is a very samsung rom, which is fine enough given the skin addons the Dev offers..
I applied the Acid Beats MOD and so far so good as well
now im only looking forward to trying this other rom named ROOTBOX but is currently removed, so im on the search for it elsewhere, hope to find it! ive heard it has good battery life for it being jellybean.. but if its no better than blackstars then im reverting
And of course gingerbread roms have best battery life.. this phone was born with gingerbread.. we shouldnt be pushing it so hard with kjellybean and such.. ics is the furthest it has gone and it barely did.. so we all should keep ics methinks..
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Which kernel do you use with Blackstar X, stock or h0tcakez? And why do you chose X instead of XI? Is it possible to get fast charge on 4.0.4 ROMs?
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I use Flapp's most recent TW kernel, 3.0.2. And I use X (as opposed to XI) because of that specifically - Blackstar XI is the same as X, except the base was changed to the newest Hong Kong Note, as opposed to the UCLF6 build. IMO that base is better if you're running stock only with no customizations, since it is a pure Samsung base without any At&t bloat - but since ROMs like Blackstar and Padawan have already been de-bloated, I prefer the US base because we don't have the Hong Kong source and, as a result, there are no custom kernels available.
So since I'm partial to FJ's kernel, that was a deal-breaker for me.
Btw, those battery stats I mentioned above are in spite of OC'ing at 1,728 (Wheatley governor, SIO scheduler).
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I am going to try your combination, actually! you are a very good lad for sharing
thank you! :highfive:
i hope i get more or less the same outcome.. i get the same 15-20% hour usage per hour on 4.2 and 4.1..
i find it too ambitious to wanting to be on the latest android release when ics is basically being very updated when it comes to apps and stuff
and google now is dumb(to me), i am moreso a classic user
I enjoy customisation and stuff so im on some paranoid rom but honestly it isn't giving the best performance and battery life(for me, but for others it works wonders it seems.. but they DO have the non OEM batteries for it, so that doesnt say much)
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No problem at all, happy to share.
Forgot to mention in my first response that I'm running Flappjaxxx's most recent TW kernel (PM me if you want a link, as it's no longer on XDA). See my post immediately above for my kernel setup.
Also, if you really want to save battery in certain situations, I recommend downloading the Rescan Media Root app from the Play Store, then using it to disable media scanning. I know that (for me at least) the media scanner is always what causes the most battery drain for me, so that really helps. If you need to scan media for some reason, you can just go into the app and re-enable the scanner.
Edit: I know you said you don't like Google Now, but for anyone else thinking about going to the ICS ROM's that I mentioned above, there is actually a ported version of the app available via flashable zip (just search "Google Now ICS" on XDA). And actually, Padawan v5.1 has it already included in the ROM. That was the last thing for me to keep me happy on ICS, as I actually do like the app and use it often.
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I use Flapp's most recent TW kernel, 3.0.2. And I use X (as opposed to XI) because of that specifically - Blackstar XI is the same as X, except the base was changed to the newest Hong Kong Note, as opposed to the UCLF6 build. IMO that base is better if you're running stock only with no customizations, since it is a pure Samsung base without any At&t bloat - but since ROMs like Blackstar and Padawan have already been de-bloated, I prefer the US base because we don't have the Hong Kong source and, as a result, there are no custom kernels available.
So since I'm partial to FJ's kernel, that was a deal-breaker for me.
Btw, those battery stats I mentioned above are in spite of OC'ing at 1,728 (Wheatley governor, SIO scheduler).
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No problem at all, happy to share.
Forgot to mention in my first response that I'm running Flappjaxxx's most recent TW kernel (PM me if you want a link, as it's no longer on XDA). See my post immediately above for my kernel setup.
Also, if you really want to save battery in certain situations, I recommend downloading the Rescan Media Root app from the Play Store, then using it to disable media scanning. I know that (for me at least) the media scanner is always what causes the most battery drain for me, so that really helps. If you need to scan media for some reason, you can just go into the app and re-enable the scanner.
Edit: I know you said you don't like Google Now, but for anyone else thinking about going to the ICS ROM's that I mentioned above, there is actually a ported version of the app available via flashable zip (just search "Google Now ICS" on XDA). And actually, Padawan v5.1 has it already included in the ROM. That was the last thing for me to keep me happy on ICS, as I actually do like the app and use it often.
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I p'md you <3
And does anyone know what tool can be used to tweaking the flapjaps kernels? nstools maybe? or can it be done from these random options in the rom? thanks :highfive:
I've tried jelly beer,root box, chameleon, fj jb, cm10.1....pretty much all the same problems. I agree with using blackrom x or even FJ stock ICS ROM. I got 4-5 hrs on screen time easy. Think I'm gonna go back
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Over the past 2 days I've been using ParanoidKANGdroid 2.3.0 and it has AWESOME battery performance!
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I had to start this thread up because I am considering either one of these roms as my stable daily.
In my week of research after owning my Rezound, these are the best De-Sensed ICS roms out there.
I wanna know though, what are the main differences betweeen Slim Rom and Clean Rom DE?
I cant really see a difference accept, that I prefer the ICS theme on SlimRom as it takes the rom to almost AOSP in appearance.
I want something that is super fast, Clean and looks the most AOSP as possible.
It also has to be stable.
Please advise
only primary difference is slimrom has the most updated leak but cleanrom de is probably the most aosp in appearance
SlimROM ran smoother for me when I ran it.
Also consider CleanROM won't probably be updated any longer as Scott is gone.
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Scott did say he'll come update when official ICS comes out...not sure if that's still the case or not.
I think Scott has a Google Nexus now so I don't know if he'll take time to rebase his CleanRom when ICS is released.
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I think Scott has a Google Nexus now so I don't know if he'll take time to rebase his CleanRom when ICS is released.
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You mean HTC One? Or did he get a Nexus too?
Lets try to stay on topic guys.. Which one do you think is better, based on my criteria. thanks
Cleanrom de. It has more options and is smoother and more AOSP like
I would also recommend tonked Rom. It's not here. He put it up on the bamf site. I'm running it now and It's beyond smooth. I think it was right at 300mb size wise so it's pretty slimmed down
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The battery life on tonked rom was simply amazing. Then I found slimrom. Battery life is utterly rediculous
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Does Slim Rom have wireless tether? I am using Clean ROM DE now and the wireless tether is spotty.
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Does Slim Rom have wireless tether? I am using Clean ROM DE now and the wireless tether is spotty.
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Yes.
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IMO, Slim Rom is the best rom out right now, that is still being maintained. By far. I get shockingly great battery life with this rom in comparison to any other rom I've ran for this phone. And it has pilots themes which are always incredible. Also, tether will work on any rooted rom as long as its setup properly. But it's easy enough to flash roms so give them both a try for a few days and see which one you prefer.
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The battery life on tonked rom was simply amazing. Then I found slimrom. Battery life is utterly rediculous
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IMO, Slim Rom is the best rom out right now, that is still being maintained. By far. I get shockingly great battery life with this rom in comparison to any other rom I've ran for this phone. And it has pilots themes which are always incredible. Also, tether will work on any rooted rom as long as its setup properly. But it's easy enough to flash roms so give them both a try for a few days and see which one you prefer.
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What kind of batter life are we talking here with how much usage? Ive been on a quest for better battery life and I've yet to find a ROM that is satisfactory.
I was running Tonked and liked it, but got a bit of flashitis and am running Nils business right now. I don't think I will keep it for too long as the battery life isnt any better, maybe worse but too soon to tell, and I don't think I like sense very much.
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What kind of batter life are we talking here with how much usage? Ive been on a quest for better battery life and I've yet to find a ROM that is satisfactory.
I was running Tonked and liked it, but got a bit of flashitis and am running Nils business right now. I don't think I will keep it for too long as the battery life isnt any better, maybe worse but too soon to tell, and I don't think I like sense very much.
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Well as I don't have exact figures for you I can tell you that the battery drain while screen is off is almost non-existent. On all of my previous ROMS I ran I would always turn off LTE unless I was going to be downloading something so I could save on battery life. WIth this rom I have LTE on 100% of the time and have far better battery life than I did when 3G was enabled on other roms. Also, when I play temple run the battery drain is almost cut in half and possibly even more compared to other roms. I use my phone constantly throughout the day and would always have my phone charging at my desk at work, but with slim rom I can easily last the whole day until I go to bed with heavy use and off the charger. I have no idea why that rom is so much better for me, but it is. Huge difference from any other rom.
I think slim rom is under 240MB...all of the normal sense stuff is ripped out and it runs amazingly. How hard is it to create a backup and flash a new rom? Just give it a try.
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Well as I don't have exact figures for you I can tell you that the battery drain while screen is off is almost non-existent. On all of my previous ROMS I ran I would always turn off LTE unless I was going to be downloading something so I could save on battery life. WIth this rom I have LTE on 100% of the time and have far better battery life than I did when 3G was enabled on other roms. Also, when I play temple run the battery drain is almost cut in half and possibly even more compared to other roms. I use my phone constantly throughout the day and would always have my phone charging at my desk at work, but with slim rom I can easily last the whole day until I go to bed with heavy use and off the charger. I have no idea why that rom is so much better for me, but it is. Huge difference from any other rom.
I think slim rom is under 240MB...all of the normal sense stuff is ripped out and it runs amazingly. How hard is it to create a backup and flash a new rom? Just give it a try.
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Oh its not at all and I will. I was just curious. I'm sure you've seen plenty of people, like I have, that say they get amazing battery life and then they post a screenshot and you see the screens never on or something like that.
I'm backing up right now as I was getting pretty terrible battery life from the Sense Rom I was running. Maybe it was still settling but its full day 2 on the ROM and no improvement, for me that's not worth waiting to see what little improvement I may get from it.
I'm trying to get opinions on rooms in terms of battery life and performance for my evo 3d. I've been reading mostly about MeanROM, Venom, and of course cyanogenmod. The biggest problem that I have is that all of the reviews I've read are pre-ICS so I'm not one hundred prevent certain that the information I'm reading is up to date and I'm not misinformed or doing myself a disservice.
I do appreciate any help that people can provide and thank you in advance.
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I've found that using KingCobra3D-ICS 1.6 | 3.28.631.1 | 4.0.3 | SENSE 3.6/AOSP | AROMA has been the best.
I currently have it set to AOSP and even have Google Now and the JB Keyboard (including dictionary) installed on the device and I get about 10 hours out of 1 charge.
In my experience, battery life is more dependent on what apps you run and how you use the phone (Internet browsing, email sync, etc.) than the ROM itself. Turning GPS on/off can also affect battery life, and nothing draws power more than trying to get a radio connection with a weak or non-existent signal (as in basements of buildings). Being aware of what draws battery power and avoiding those apps, settings and situations will affect battery life more than the choice of which custom ROM you use.
If you really want to compare battery life between different ROM's, I would suggest flashing then as vanilla as possible and and install/use only the apps you really need to be functional such as phone dialer, text messaging, email and Internet, at least for a day or two.
Battery life isn't my number one priiority when choosing a ROM since I have an extended battery, but it's still a consideration.
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ramjet73 said:
In my experience, battery life is more dependent on what apps you run and how you use the phone (Internet browsing, email sync, etc.) than the ROM itself. Turning GPS on/off can also affect battery life, and nothing draws power more than trying to get a radio connection with a weak or non-existent signal (as in basements of buildings). Being aware of what draws battery power and avoiding those apps, settings and situations will affect battery life more than the choice of which custom ROM you use.
If you really want to compare battery life between different ROM's, I would suggest flashing then as vanilla as possible and and install/use only the apps you really need to be functional such as phone dialer, text messaging, email and Internet, at least for a day or two.
Battery life isn't my number one priiority when choosing a ROM since I have an extended battery, but it's still a consideration.
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Ramjet, what is your priority when choosing a ROM? I mean I already do all of the recommended stuff for battery life, however I am constantly on my phone for either work or school now (returning for my masters). The biggest problem I have is that I can tell I'm going to have is that I will be pretty much active from 6am to about 10pm every day. During work hours it is difficult for me to be near a charger and during some of the classes charging my phone is not an option.
My biggest problem has been with ICS since the update. Due to the fact that my phone was encrypted, the ICS update from Sprint killed my 4g. At that point I kind of gave up with the basic build rom and figured I would try another ROM out there.
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I've found that using KingCobra3D-ICS 1.6 | 3.28.631.1 | 4.0.3 | SENSE 3.6/AOSP | AROMA has been the best.
I currently have it set to AOSP and even have Google Now and the JB Keyboard (including dictionary) installed on the device and I get about 10 hours out of 1 charge.
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Captain, thank you for your suggestion; I will read up on it later today/tonight to see if it is what I am looking for. One more question for you if you don't mind. How is the JB Keyboard? I have yet to play with it and am curious to how it works/feels. Is it as good or better than Swype? I'm a huge fan of that keyboard so if have compared both I would be interested in hearing your opinion.
Thank you again
I'd steer clear of any ROM claiming to enable the second core all the time. They talk about battery life when the screen is off, but when it's on it blows.
CM9 is pretty good, but for HTC Cool ICS probably runs things the best.
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Ramjet, what is your priority when choosing a ROM? I mean I already do all of the recommended stuff for battery life, however I am constantly on my phone for either work or school now (returning for my masters). The biggest problem I have is that I can tell I'm going to have is that I will be pretty much active from 6am to about 10pm every day. During work hours it is difficult for me to be near a charger and during some of the classes charging my phone is not an option.
My biggest problem has been with ICS since the update. Due to the fact that my phone was encrypted, the ICS update from Sprint killed my 4g. At that point I kind of gave up with the basic build rom and figured I would try another ROM out there.
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My priorities are:
1. Things that I need work and work correctly (camera, 4G, texting, email, browser)
2. Stabilty (no crashes when I am using the phone)
3. Performance (I like a responsive phone)
4. Battery life (not a big one for me with an extended battery)
5. Features not included in stock ROM
6. Customization options (themes, icon packs, etc.)
I've had pretty good luck with MeanROM GB and MeanROM ICS, but still need to be careful about what apps and mods get added. If the built-in battery stats don't give you enough information, you can get BetterBatteryStats for free here on XDA, and the paid version of SystemPanel keeps pretty good history about battery usage by app. You might also want to consider an extended or spare battery.
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My priorities are:
1. Things that I need work and work correctly (camera, 4G, texting, email, browser)
2. Stabilty (no crashes when I am using the phone)
3. Performance (I like a responsive phone)
4. Battery life (not a big one for me with an extended battery)
5. Features not included in stock ROM
6. Customization options (themes, icon packs, etc.)
I've had pretty good luck with MeanROM GB and MeanROM ICS, but still need to be careful about what apps and mods get added. If the built-in battery stats don't give you enough information, you can get BetterBatteryStats for free here on XDA, and the paid version of SystemPanel keeps pretty good history about battery usage by app. You might also want to consider an extended or spare battery.
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Good points, I actually think that you pretty much laid out what my priorities are that I am looking for. I ordered an extended battery the other day, but I honestly use my phone from everything from an extended USB to GPS to calculator to everything else. I think the only thing I don't try to do is start fires and cook dinner with it. I've written down your suggestions and will look at it when I get home later.
Thank you again for taking time out the help me with this.
For my two cents I would suggest common butter its ics no issues really stable and a very laid back community. Also the dev is only 15 but his work is really good and stable I've had no issues so far really good battery life I also use my phone for everything. Plus the mods u want to add are pre included
commonsense butter hboot1.58 soff
My favorite Sense roms have been Viper Rom IC3D (The OC Daemon is pretty sweet) and Common Sense. If you want an AOSP build, I'd suggest Unicorn Porn AOKP. I've ran that rom for several months and had no issues with it.
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Let me throw in a couple more from Team Imagika: Homebrew & Zr3dxl.
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I've been quite happy with d3rp for some time now. But, I'm starting to branch out and try new things... we'll see how that works!
I thank you all for your suggestions. It looks like I will be doing a ton of reading this labor day weekend.
i think evoler is the best, i m glad !
I have best expirience with Cool ics v12. Tried almost all gsm roms for my evo 3d, and for now, only cool ics worked flawlessly.
For me MIUI 2.8.31 is best rom now
i used cool ics it's really good but i wanna give mwakious a try:highfive:
These threads only create problems cause everyone has their own opinion on what's best. Locking this down and any other what's the best rom thread
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Hi guys! I am new here, and glad to be a part of this big community.
Recently i bought a new Samsung Galaxy S III. The phone was running stock ICS 4.0.4.
Because i am really stupid, and like to make all my gadgets "better", i installed Jelly Bean 4.1.1 Polonia, from Sammobile.
The problem is... THE BATTERY, IT'S HORRIBLE! 3-5% over night discharge, with 30% light, no Wi-Fi, no Sync, only H+.
In a little game, like Doodle Jump, Jetpack Joyride or Jumping Slime, 15 minutes of gameplay and 3-4% battery is gone.
I have the Clockworkmod recovery installed, and i did a full charge and wipe battery stats... the battery got better, but no like on ICS.
What should i do... i would like to install ICS back, but i see that it's kind of laggy, and doesn't got manny features.
I don't like to install a Custom ROM, like Ressurection Remix, AOKP and stuff like that...
Furthermore, on the curent Jelly Bean i was had installed Siyah Kernel and i undervolted my CPU with -50mV, and still no improvement.
What should i do? Back to ICS? The battery life was great in games/aplications...
Thx for any reply!
Cheers!
no, no, no, no, NO!! Best rom threads arent allowed and are not looked upon lightly! Roms are entirely based on personal preference....flash a few and see which ones offer the best battery life FOR YOU!! And its not unusual for games and mobile data to use battery. Its inevitable really dude....
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Welcome btw
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No... the thing is, i want a RECOMMANDATION, for the best stock ROM. On this forum there are many Galaxy S III users... what is the best ROM for their devices?
For me, the best ROM, was ICS 4.0.4, and i hadn't got any major battery drain like this. But i want to hear some opinions on this subject.
And no more useless reflashing... i am afraid that my NAND will be corupt. I flashed my phone like 5 times in a week, trying to establish the best ROM.
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Hi guys! I am new here, and glad to be a part of this big community.
Recently i bought a new Samsung Galaxy S III. The phone was running stock ICS 4.0.4.
Because i am really stupid, and like to make all my gadgets "better", i installed Jelly Bean 4.1.1 Polonia, from Sammobile.
The problem is... THE BATTERY, IT'S HORRIBLE! 3-5% over night discharge, with 30% light, no Wi-Fi, no Sync, only H+.
In a little game, like Doodle Jump, Jetpack Joyride or Jumping Slime, 15 minutes of gameplay and 3-4% battery is gone.
I have the Clockworkmod recovery installed, and i did a full charge and wipe battery stats... the battery got better, but no like on ICS.
What should i do... i would like to install ICS back, but i see that it's kind of laggy, and doesn't got manny features.
I don't like to install a Custom ROM, like Ressurection Remix, AOKP and stuff like that...
Furthermore, on the curent Jelly Bean i was had installed Siyah Kernel and i undervolted my CPU with -50mV, and still no improvement.
What should i do? Back to ICS? The battery life was great in games/aplications...
Thx for any reply!
Cheers!
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install the app better battery stats, and charge your phone up then leave it to idle for a couple of hours then report back with screen shots of kernel wakelock, and partial wakelock
Apart from that Google now causes some extra drain due to using location services.check what you are syncing (I suggest getting rid of the whole Samsung account/backup set up and disabling Google back up
3-5% isn't really that bad, neither is 3-4 % in 15 minutes of gameplay, considering normal screen on drain is approx 10%/hour
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No... the thing is, i want a RECOMMANDATION, for the best stock ROM. On this forum there are many Galaxy S III users... what is the best ROM for their devices?
For me, the best ROM, was ICS 4.0.4, and i hadn't got any major battery drain like this. But i want to hear some opinions on this subject.
And no more useless reflashing... i am afraid that my NAND will be corupt. I flashed my phone like 5 times in a week, trying to establish the best ROM.
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You said it yourself "trying to establish the best rom" their is no best rom....what gives you huge performance in terms of battery might suck for someone else....every device is different. And if you flashed your device 5 times in a week then my nand must be screwed because ive tried every galaxy S3 rom. It takes more than you think to damage your nand dude
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Ok... i will install ICS back.
The JB battery really sucks. Only 5 minute call and checking some emails and 7% gone.
I think the battery is exactly the same..i was getting 6hrs screen on time on 4.0.4 and im still getting 6 hrs on dlib and its much faster
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InsertCoin is best.
It haves stock (stable) kernel, full debloat (~100 mb more ram), alot of optional user tweaks, and many behind the scenes mods for maximum smoothness and perfomance
If only people could understand that what's best for Person A, might not suit Person B at all. It's a matter of one's own preference and it's imperative to try roms out yourself.
sigh.... I'm just going to paste my response from one of the many other best rom threads
These best rom threads are getting out of hand...
What's the best rom for me might be the worst for you.. It's subjective.
It's like asking who's the hottest girl in the world, or which sports car is the nicest.. It all depends on the person being asked and if you ask in a forum you will be a different answer from everyone.
The only way to find out the best rom for YOU is to try them all until you find the one that's "best" for you and your needs..
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Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
My advice, run SHOstock3 as it was released. It runs great as shoman94 dev'd it.
...and stay away from that web site u mentioned.
Stick to XDA. Period!
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Yes. I'm running shostock3 with the included kernel and get good battery life.
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Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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gainstatom said:
Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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which siyah kernel u r using. as far as i know theres no siyah kernel to run with shostock 3 except for ajk's (ktoonsez stopped working on siyah kernel for jb i777 after release of 4.3.3).
EQ2192012 said:
Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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Most people get really good battery life on SHOstock3. Just search the SHOstock3 thread for the word battery to see what I mean. If you're not getting good battery life, you need to find out what in your configuration is causing the problem, and fix it. There is a thread in the general section started by Entropy512 that you should study to help you identify where the problem is.
I was on GB ShoStock for a long time thinking ICS and JB would never leave me satisfied on battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
Finally came to my senses and tried out ShoStock 3 and have never looked back. To make it short the best Rom Ive ever flashed for any device I have had in the present and past.
You definitely have a rogue app killing your battery, find out which one it is and uninstall.
gainstatom said:
Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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Sorry you have battery life problems.
I have been running Shostock3 since it came out (it's version 3.02 today!), but I also been on and off at least five (wow can it be that many?) JB roms on my SGH-i777 (won't even mention the # GB roms here!). After trying many, I must agree with the other posters who state that this rom delivers very good battery life when compared to stock and when compared with other custom roms.
Lately, it has delivered the best battery life I have ever had on this phone using any rom (although SlimBean JB provided very very good battery life for me recently as well! Also UnNamed was great for battery life in the old GB days )
I followed the recommendations made by creepyncrawly to read Entropy's (& others) battery notes/faqs. They provide some really good background, some with that typical "XDA flavor" (read technical!. That material, plus some more plain old simple user adjustments to how and what I use on the phone have improved my phone's battery time; and it might help you as well.
It really boils down to the fact that each phone user loads different apps and our usage patterns vary.
Assume that you've flashed it and let it settle for a few days and several recharge cycles. After doing this you can see what YOUR "norms" are. They may be good or bad, but that's the baseline for you with this rom and with the apps and usage pattern you have.
(You can tweak voltage and speed (well, not speed on SS3!), but my experience has been that the more noticeable changes will be by adjusting your pattern of use, or doing the "hunt for the app" (or apps) that are burning down your run times when not in use.
Not many here seem to like or do this, but I would also try one of those "help-you-with-battery-use" apps --like juice defender (Ok, I get that many here seem to think it a waste, but it really did help me --a little-- when I used it); or get DS Battery saver (a bit more aggressive and noticeable, but you also notice the lag while you wait for things to turn on when you want them).
Actually, these may not be precision solutions, and don't focus on your specific phone app use, but they do work in a macro way to slow battery use and simply working with them for a few days or weeks will provide you with a better a sense of what the heck is going on under the plastic; they will cause you to look at what you have/run and when.
Oh, this includes using Better Battery Stats, which is fine for reporting out exactly which the apps behave --or don't-- and by how much and when. I'm not slow (well, that slow but it frankly, it took me quite a while to figure out what I was reading in the BBS readouts and what they meant! (Now, after a year+ or so of using it, I don't even have it loaded, since I've done the fiddling I need --and BBS, plus those other battery apps, helped me to figure out what apps worked well, what apps I was willing to sacrifice battery on and what apps were useless and should be tossed.)
Finally, some roms just don't work for people! So it's not worth the frustration chasing something you may not be able to achieve with this or another rom. (You probably read how individuals have problems that you don't -yet, you run the same rom and the same phone! That is our world. So, too, you will read about some who make amazing claims on how long they continue on one charge. Some are pretty amazing, and some may even be real
My final five cents would be:
#1 run the rom a couple of days, get a baseline. Then switch from Jeboo kernel to AJK's latest for TW (I think it is 1.25ss, but I really also had great results from 1.48s) and run it a few more days. They were pretty much even for me, but others find one or the other kernel makes a real difference!). Compare after doing the same activities through a charge or two.
#2 If your battery life remains "poor," note what poor really is (ex. how much screen time? and how much total run time prior to getting to zero or 10-15%? ...something like that).
#3. Then get BBS and one of the "automatic" battery-saver programs and work with it for about 4-5 days and that many recharge cycles. See what your norms are but do it for the same type of usage!!! If better while using the battery fixers, then you can work at picking off the app or apps that are sucking your battery more than you want. Not as tedious as it sounds. Of course, staying with a rom for three weeks might be a challenge :laugh:, but this is a nice rom to work with.
#4. I don't think you will need to under-volt to get good BL. I wonder if your phone is stable in doing that? Or, does it induce additional lag? That might be a high price to pay for more run time. (You could compare the UV results with your "norm" as well!)
#5. Finally, we are on Galaxy S2 Sgh-i777 -and can change batteries all day long for not so much per battery! It is not elegant, but it works. (Done it myself several times -even with good battery life).
Good Luck!
Best ROM, Good battery life... been with Shoman's ROM since shostock2 never have a problem with the battery life...
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Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
bluebeanie said:
Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
bluebeanie said:
Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
bluebeanie said:
Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Very common at about the 10 to 12 month mark. Battery starts to swell. You can get stronger battery for $8 on amazon.
Glad everything is working better, still want to stay clean though.
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