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Quick question i am using a custom rom and I have to flash a kernel to get my wifi working. Is their a way to flash it into the rom so i don't have to flash it every time i do a wipe. Sort of out box tweak
We can't flash kernels by recovery so you shouldn't have to worry about having to reflash the same kernel over again.
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Binary100100 said:
We can't flash kernels by recovery so you shouldn't have to worry about having to reflash the same kernel over again.
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I thought so, every time i use the super wipe function and i install the rom i have to reflash the kernel to get my wifi working.
nofroyo said:
I thought so, every time i use the super wipe function and i install the rom i have to reflash the kernel to get my wifi working.
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That's because the kernel modules are different than the rom modules.
So which kernel is best to use that will work on all amaze roms ? One that will wrk with all if possible
Also roms that have stock kernel should wrk with all amazes right?
nofroyo said:
So which kernel is best to use that will work on all amaze roms ? One that will wrk with all if possible
Also roms that have stock kernel should wrk with all amazes right?
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You only have a few to chose from.
You have the stock and you have Faux123 kernel.
You may need to use the computer to flash the Faux123 kernel since the Flash Image GUI app doesn't always properly flash the modules.
Using command prompt or terminal right?
One last question if I flash using terminal will that allow me to switch roms and not have to keep on reflashing the kernel everytime ?
Thanks for all your help it's much appreciated
nofroyo said:
Using command prompt or terminal right?
One last question if I flash using terminal will that allow me to switch roms and not have to keep on reflashing the kernel everytime ?
Thanks for all your help it's much appreciated
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It's suggested to use the Easy Kernel Flasher if it's a dedicated kernel.
If you're trying to flash the kernel that came with the rom then you can use the Flash Image GUI app on the Market.
I actually just composed an even easier kernel flasher for Faux123's latest kernel.
If you want to try it?
All you should need to do is double click, plug your phone in and click Install.
Let me know if it works or not should you decide to try it.
Faux123 Easier Kernel Updater Executable
I am going to try it right now.
Binary100100 said:
It's suggested to use the Easy Kernel Flasher if it's a dedicated kernel.
If you're trying to flash the kernel that came with the rom then you can use the Flash Image GUI app on the Market.
I actually just composed an even easier kernel flasher for Faux123's latest kernel.
If you want to try it?
All you should need to do is double click, plug your phone in and click Install.
Let me know if it works or not should you decide to try it.
Faux123 Easier Kernel Updater Executable
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nofroyo said:
I am going to try it right now.
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Okay just let me know how well it works for you.
You're a tester.
Binary100100 said:
It's suggested to use the Easy Kernel Flasher if it's a dedicated kernel.
If you're trying to flash the kernel that came with the rom then you can use the Flash Image GUI app on the Market.
I actually just composed an even easier kernel flasher for Faux123's latest kernel.
If you want to try it?
All you should need to do is double click, plug your phone in and click Install.
Let me know if it works or not should you decide to try it.
Faux123 Easier Kernel Updater Executable
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it works perfectly, just plugged in and it did all the work. i rebooted and wifi is working as usual. good job.
hopefully i wont have to reflash the kernel every time i need to wipe haha
nofroyo said:
it works perfectly, just plugged in and it did all the work. i rebooted and wifi is working as usual. good job
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Thanks for the update. I don't think that I can set it up any easier.
Binary100100 said:
Thanks for the update. I don't think that I can set it up any easier.
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No worries if you need to test anything else i am willing to test
Binary100100 said:
You only have a few to chose from.
You have the stock and you have Faux123 kernel.
You may need to use the computer to flash the Faux123 kernel since the Flash Image GUI app doesn't always properly flash the modules.
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I haven't heard of this issue or bug report yet from the over 6k active users of the application. I'm all for fixing the issue but I can't afford to buy all android devices to test with so I rely heavily on users reporting issues and a few knowlegdable testers!
Can you provide an example where Flash Image GUI doesn't properly flash the modules? A link to the .zip file would be most helpful along with the specific module/modules which didn't properly load?
nofroyo said:
So which kernel is best to use that will work on all amaze roms ? One that will wrk with all if possible
Also roms that have stock kernel should wrk with all amazes right?
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I've been answering this exact question on the EVO 3D boards since HTC released their unlock method back in August. The best answer I've been able to formulate, and feel free to critique or post additional questions is as follows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18793336&postcount=2
The WiFi error is caused by a mismatch between the WiFi module and the currently loaded kernel. The WiFi module is stored in /system/lib/modules/bcm4330.ko (bcm4329.ko is for EVO 3D) . The kernel is stored in the boot partition.
When booted into the custom recovery through the traditional methods, reboot recovery, bootloader -> recovery, etc., HTC unlock method does not unlock *kernel* write access but does unlock *system* write access.
The result is the kernel module for WiFi is loaded but the kernel itself is not loaded. This creates a mismatch between a WiFi module loaded from the ROM and the matching kernel not being loaded as HTC does not allow it to be loaded from the traditional recovery boot method.
The main issue around kernel write access is due to the HTC unlock method only allowing kernel write access in two modes:
1) Booted in normal Android mode. My application, Flash Image GUI, will flash any kernel .zip file with the HTC unlock method because it runs in normal android mode. HTC unlocks write access to the boot partition, where the kernel is stored, in normal Android mode. Flash Image GUI also properly loads the respective WiFi modules essentially eliminating this WiFi mismatch error.
2) Fastboot booted into the custom recovery using the following command: fastboot boot c:\android\cwm-recovery.img. HTC unlock method allows kernel write access while using fastboot boot of a custom recovery.
Hope that helps!
Edit: If you're curious and want to do some reading on previous WiFi error issues with the EVO 3D on this Q&A board where I replied, here are some similar posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17681402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16990247
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18624865
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18807723
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In summary, there is no WiFi module which will work across all kernels as the WiFi module is compiled at the same time the kernel is compiled and are required to be used together as a pair.
Hope that helps clarify!
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I haven't heard of this issue or bug report yet from the over 6k active users of the application. I'm all for fixing the issue but I can't afford to buy all android devices to test with so I rely heavily on users reporting issues and a few knowlegdable testers!
Can you provide an example where Flash Image GUI doesn't properly flash the modules? A link to the .zip file would be most helpful along with the specific module/modules which didn't properly load?
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I noticed the issue while applying the Faux123 kernel with the Energy ROM
It's likely because it's not set up to be flashed by recovery but by a computer script.
The directory of the kernel flashing script directory goes like this
Amaze-EKF-008b13-sense
-Kernel-Here
---boot.img
-Modules
---system
-----etc
--------init.post_boot.sh
--------st_drv.ko
--------thermald.conf
--------ti_hci_drv.ko
-----lib
--------modules
-----------kineto_gan.ko
-----------tiap_drv.ko
-----------tiwlan_drv.ko
joeykrim said:
I haven't heard of this issue or bug report yet from the over 6k active users of the application. I'm all for fixing the issue but I can't afford to buy all android devices to test with so I rely heavily on users reporting issues and a few knowlegdable testers!
Can you provide an example where Flash Image GUI doesn't properly flash the modules? A link to the .zip file would be most helpful along with the specific module/modules which didn't properly load?
I've been answering this exact question on the EVO 3D boards since HTC released their unlock method back in August. The best answer I've been able to formulate, and feel free to critique or post additional questions is as follows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18793336&postcount=2
In summary, there is no WiFi module which will work across all kernels as the WiFi module is compiled at the same time the kernel is compiled and are required to be used together as a pair.
Hope that helps clarify!
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Once again thanks for this information it clearly answers my questions I had. The app you made solved my initial inquiry and works perfectly. Thanks for all you help and support :=)
Binary100100 said:
I noticed the issue while applying the Faux123 kernel with the Energy ROM
It's likely because it's not set up to be flashed by recovery but by a computer script.
The directory of the kernel flashing script directory goes like this
Amaze-EKF-008b13-sense
-Kernel-Here
---boot.img
-Modules
---system
-----etc
--------init.post_boot.sh
--------st_drv.ko
--------thermald.conf
--------ti_hci_drv.ko
-----lib
--------modules
-----------kineto_gan.ko
-----------tiap_drv.ko
-----------tiwlan_drv.ko
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Yea, definitely not designed to be flashed by the recovery. They're using unique scripts which could easily be modified to follow the same standards as required by a recovery .zip. In fact, it is very easy to package up one .zip file which will do both, be flashable in recovery but also contain all the files and scripts to be flashable from a desktop via adb/fastboot.
Appreciate the link and info. Made it very easy to narrow down the issue!
Will definitely keep this in mind. Good to see/know there are some unique kernel .zip files be distributed which don't follow the "standards".
nofroyo said:
Once again thanks for this information it clearly answers my questions I had. The app you made solved my initial inquiry and works perfectly. Thanks for all you help and support :=)
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Glad the information helped and appreciate the feedback!
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
We only have 2 options, Entropy or Siyah and they do not include a modem.
Check the dev section for kernels & modems.
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Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
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Both kernels we have offer oc abilities.
Personally I would look at stability and battery life but that is just me. Try both and see which suits your needs.
Modems are not associated with kernel and depend on your area. Whichever works the best where you are.
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
LiLChris06 said:
Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Thanks for the quick response chris,
I guess what I'm asking is if I have a rom with the Syiah kernal, is it possible to keep that same ROM but swap kernals, sorry, I just wasn't clear on what your answer meant.
I'm guessing your saying it is indeed possible and just flash the .zip for a different Kernal on top of an already installed ROM.
Sorry, I'm tired...
Changing the Kernel on 2.3.4 & 2.3.6 roms will not break anything.
For CM7, CM9, MIUI etc you have to stick with what is included or see what works with it.
AntwanL said:
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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For example, latest Siyah with touch recovery. Awesome for flashaholics.
Your talking of version .14 I assume, if so, doesn't it say in .13 description that .13 would be the last for Gingerbread?
Obviously it works if your using it, so i'm gonna download now...
Dear reader,
I've currently been using Cyanomod for 2.3.7 Gingerbread.
My phone is rooted and everything (which took a little while )
Everything is running perfectly fine, but i would like to update my phone to android 4.0+ (whatever the lastest compatible version might be)
How should i go about this?
Do i basically uninstall everything and start from scratch or is there an easy method to quickly update my phone to android 4.
Kind Regards and Thank you for your time!
I believe the answer us first to backup your apps with titanium backup if you need them. Then go to recovery and backup your current Rom. (always be sure to do this). from recovery wipe factory reset and dalvik cache. Then install your new Rom from zip.
You cannot install an android 4.0 + over another version. Always backup and wipe.
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TJ007 said:
I believe the answer us first to backup your apps with titanium backup if you need them. Then go to recovery and backup your current Rom. (always be sure to do this). from recovery wipe factory reset and dalvik cache. Then install your new Rom from zip.
You cannot install an android 4.0 + over another version. Always backup and wipe.
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Do i need to re-root my phone when i install a new Rom? Or should i just install it through recovery?
Rom's are pre rooted (expect stock, stock BASED roms ARE pre-rooted), once you've installed the rom through cwm, it will be rooted and ready.
cashtecz said:
Dear reader,
Do i basically uninstall everything and start from scratch or is there an easy method to quickly update my phone to android 4.
Kind Regards and Thank you for your time!
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom kernel (Based on ics, so it'll be compatible with ics rom) And boot into recovery, and flash a custom rom based on ics.
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
Since you're using CyanogenMod 7 I would recommend you to use CyanogenMod 9.1 i.e. FXP 138 is the best in my experience.
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom kernel (Based on ics, so it'll be compatible with ics rom) And boot into recovery, and flash a custom rom based on ics.
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cashtecz said:
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
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If your finding trouble with compatible roms are you saying your getting bootloops when trying them?, because a different Android Version requires a different kernel, So if you haven't or forget to flash the kernel recommended or provided then that would possibly be where your compatibility issues lye as you will get bootloops if you don't and you are changing version. As Mikii suggested earlier.
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If your finding trouble with compatible roms are you saying your getting bootloops when trying them?, because a different Android Version requires a different kernel, So if you haven't or forget to flash the kernel recommended or provided then that would possibly be where your compatibility issues lye as you will get bootloops if you don't and you are changing version. As Mikii suggested earlier.
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Ahhh that must be it then.. I've been using the same kernel for quite some time now because it was quite a hassle to flash it. Different roms come with different kernels (at times). I'll have to figure out how to flash kernels again. Gonna check around the forums to see if i can find a suitable thread.
Thanks so much
sarangkunte05 said:
Since you're using CyanogenMod 7 I would recommend you to use CyanogenMod 9.1 i.e. FXP 138 is the best in my experience.
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When i look up Cyano 9.1 FXP 138, i get a list of downloads. FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-haida.zip , FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-mango.zip
What exactly are they and which one should i go for?
cashtecz said:
Ahhh that must be it then.. I've been using the same kernel for quite some time now because it was quite a hassle to flash it. Different roms come with different kernels (at times). I'll have to figure out how to flash kernels again. Gonna check around the forums to see if i can find a suitable thread.
Thanks so much
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The fastest way to flash a kernel is to use the program called flashtool, click on the lightening bolt, select Fastboot mode, then select kernel to flash find the kernel you want to flash and it should be done within literally 2 seconds. once Flashtool gives you the all clear, disconnect your phone from usb, restart phone, and there you go, the old kernel will be overwritten, and so will that kernel's cwm version, with the one from the new kernel.
Try FXP138
cashtecz said:
One last question, since i'm having trouble finding compatible roms.
Which one would any of you, recommend for me to use ?
I have a ST18i and i'd like the lastest compatible rom.
Thanks so much for the fast reponses and ofcourse the help.
Kind Regards,
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i would also suggest you to try FXP138 which is CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, Its pretty smooth and the brightness bug seems to be resolved:laugh: in FXP138 here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
Also here is a link for ROM comparison - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843741
Hope this helps!
FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi
cashtecz said:
When i look up Cyano 9.1 FXP 138, i get a list of downloads. FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-haida.zip , FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-mango.zip
What exactly are they and which one should i go for?
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1. http://ul.to/f/zwx5le
2. choose and download FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi.zip
3. Flash the kernal inside above archive.(using fastboot mode.)
4. Enjoy.....:good:
Note:
urushi is the modder for Xperia ray(ST18i)
ramakrishnanjk said:
1. http://ul.to/f/zwx5le
2. choose and download FXP138-cm-9-20120916-UNOFFICIAL-urushi.zip
3. Flash the kernal inside above archive.(using fastboot mode.)
4. Enjoy.....:good:
Note:
urushi is the modder for Xperia ray(ST18i)
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Nevermind, i figured it out!
cashtecz said:
Nevermind, i figured it out!
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Hey,
Everything is installed and running, however i am wondering about just one thing.
Whenever i reboot my phone i get, right after imputting my sim code, a Unlock Network SIM message.
What is this and how can i solve it?
Regards,
(oops just realized i made a double post, apologies!)
I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
NapalmDawn said:
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
Xenphor said:
Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
MetaMav said:
Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
Xenphor said:
Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
NapalmDawn said:
In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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SerkTheTurk said:
Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
Xenphor said:
Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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SerkTheTurk said:
US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape
Hi, just bought an og ,coming from HTC phone. There r some new things it looks like. What is a EFS ? Back up EFS partition ? I'm gonna used the my att og on straight talk , any things I should watch out for ? Should stay 100 % stock until service is activated? I'm looking for a near stock stable optimized rom, any to recommend ? Which kernel is good for it ? Htcs have hboot , it looks like lgs use different things , how do I go around flashing radios ? Excuse me for throwing out tons of noob questions , gonna start somewhere
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Welcome. There is a zip file that you put on your external SD card somewhere in the optimus g forums that will backup your efs partition.
Edit: I found it for you if you haven't had any luck finding it. Also.. The efs supposedly holds your imei number and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164749
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Ic, so how would EFS be deleted ? always just had CDMA phones, never heard of ESNs deleted by mistake. Are radios to be flashed in recovery too ? My HTC flashes radios in fastboot.
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optimusv45 said:
Ic, so how would EFS be deleted ? always just had CDMA phones, never heard of ESNs deleted by mistake. Are radios to be flashed in recovery too ? My HTC flashes radios in fastboot.
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It is real, there are a lot of hard bricks because of it, look in the Optimus 3D P920 forum, a lot people lost their IMEI and couldn't get it going. And yes, you can flash different radios
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
optimusv45 said:
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
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MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM is the newest and may have the best chance of being actively maintained in the future. He also builds his own kernel with tweaks.
Ic, what version android is MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM ? Has anyone tried houstonn's Stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean LG-E970 At&t ? I don't need the latest version android or anything , mostly seeking for stability and everything work.
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Ic, what version android is MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM ? Has anyone tried houstonn's Stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean LG-E970 At&t ? I don't need the latest version android or anything , mostly seeking for stability and everything work.
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Mystery's eg8 is based on 20j 4.1.2 stock with addons and enhancements. I think Houstonn's is a port from another OG that was released with jellybean before AT&T got the update.
Can you please clarify a bit? Do you mean stock LG or stock Google/Android.
Stock LG: Either go with MysteryEmotion's eg8 Or SnowJBLeaopard's SnowJB -almost forgot SlickRom, that is super debloated, but not really to my liking. (forgot who posted it)
Stock Google/Android: Either Shelnutt's Unofficial 10.1 Or houstonn's Vanilla Rootbox. The latter has a lot of "bells and whistles" while the former is basically stock. Also should mention TuxAttack's Beanstalk. Also a lot of bells and whistles though.
optimusv45 said:
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
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Personally I would go with dvhexers CM 10.1.2, and his included kernel is quite good. This is stock android/CM though, with a bit of searching and patience you can run LG Home on top of this, with the original weather/clock and calendar.
i.e.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198225
So then you have the best of both. Too many options for you not to get out there any try a few. But @dvhexers CM10.1 I think was perfectly stable.
I am using the JellyBean ROM. I have been on it for about a month now and haven't had any issues that wasn't caused by me
Though, other than that I suggest mysteryemotionz
okay, I'll probably go with ME eg8 and his V6.1 kernel for 4.1.2. just being on the safe side , should i flash a JB radio for this rom ? if yes, do i flash in RECOVERY ? i have found a radio called CWM-ATTJB-Radio, is this the right one ? I am being carefully about this because my HTC flash radios in Hboot with PG86IMG files... as far as flashing kernel, do u guys recommend flashing with Flash Image GUI for this phone ? and is wiping Dalvik always needed for flashing kernels for this phone ? i thanked everyone that helped.
theregkid said:
I am using the JellyBean ROM. I have been on it for about a month now and haven't had any issues that wasn't caused by me
Though, other than that I suggest mysteryemotionz
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Hi theregkid, a month of stability is very good. can you tell me which JellyBean ROM you are referring to ? ME's eg8 ?
optimusv45 said:
Hi theregkid, a month of stability is very good. can you tell me which JellyBean ROM you are referring to ? ME's eg8 ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359068
Sorry, for some reason I called the ROM 'Beanstalk' Jellybean.
It was ported from the infuse 4G. I have tried just about every ROM and this one is my favorite.
Maybe it is just me, but again I haven't had any real issue with it. I did have a kernel crash from MysteryEmotionz kernel though. I then flashed Smoochas and all is good.
The crash occurred whenever I tried to run a QR code app. (any QR code app)
optimusv45 said:
okay, I'll probably go with ME eg8 and his V6.1 kernel for 4.1.2. just being on the safe side , should i flash a JB radio for this rom ? if yes, do i flash in RECOVERY ? i have found a radio called CWM-ATTJB-Radio, is this the right one ? I am being carefully about this because my HTC flash radios in Hboot with PG86IMG files... as far as flashing kernel, do u guys recommend flashing with Flash Image GUI for this phone ? and is wiping Dalvik always needed for flashing kernels for this phone ? i thanked everyone that helped.
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ME's eg8 is modified stock, it should come with his kernel already. Yes the radio's flash in CWM as zips, you can manually push with ADB/Fastboot commands, but why bother.
What are you referring to by "Flash image GUI" ? If you mean "clockwork mod recovery" or "TWRP" then yes. Once you download the freegee app from the market, it will give you the option for either, choose which ever you like more, personally I prefer CWM. Yes always wipe dalvik cache after you flash a kernel, so it can recreate the DEX files for that particular kernels methods of execution.
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ME's eg8 is modified stock, it should come with his kernel already. Yes the radio's flash in CWM as zips, you can manually push with ADB/Fastboot commands, but why bother.
What are you referring to by "Flash image GUI" ? If you mean "clockwork mod recovery" or "TWRP" then yes. Once you download the freegee app from the market, it will give you the option for either, choose which ever you like more, personally I prefer CWM. Yes always wipe dalvik cache after you flash a kernel, so it can recreate the DEX files for that particular kernels methods of execution.
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Flash image GUI is an image flashing app from the market. MiRaGe, known for his rom and kernel works for Optimus V and HTC Evo V 4G, recommends flashing his kernels with this app. I have been using it to flash kernels. So i was just wondering if this would work with kernels for this phone , i guess every phone is different.
optimusv45 said:
Flash image GUI is an image flashing app from the market. MiRaGe, known for his rom and kernel works for Optimus V and HTC Evo V 4G, recommends flashing his kernels with this app. I have been using it to flash kernels. So i was just wondering if this would work with kernels for this phone , i guess every phone is different.
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I'm not familiar with those apps, and don't recall seeing them mentioned here at all. FWIW, I personally avoid any apps that flash things. They may make things convenient, but I've seen too many issues caused on too many devices by apps that flash stuff.
Just read the relevant threads to learn about what you are doing, and flash manually from recovery. That way, you're in control of what you're doing. Less chance of snafus caused by incompatibilities...
i am in complete stock . rg8 is 700 mb ?.... most roms i use for my HTC are around 150..
Thanks everyone for all the help. Now I'm running eg8 , everything seems fine execept the first time I took a picture had a very strange crash. The screen went blank and codes started rolling up the screen , it went on for about 3 minutes then phone restarted itself ...