ROMs vs stock updates and what gets updated... - HTC One X+

I tried searching for this answer before I posted this but I was not successful at finding it. So.....
Is there anything that cannot be updated by the ROMs? Are there items that can only be updated by taking the latest OTA update? I am trying to figure out if I need to take this latest update to get the latest firmware, kernel, etc.
I am OK with waiting for the ROM updates to come out if they will update everything, too. If they can't, I might as well get these OTA updates to see if they fix some of my problems.
Thanks for the help.

badtlc said:
I tried searching for this answer before I posted this but I was not successful at finding it. So.....
Is there anything that cannot be updated by the ROMs? Are there items that can only be updated by taking the latest OTA update? I am trying to figure out if I need to take this latest update to get the latest firmware, kernel, etc.
I am OK with waiting for the ROM updates to come out if they will update everything, too. If they can't, I might as well get these OTA updates to see if they fix some of my problems.
Thanks for the help.
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Yes there are a lot of files that cant be updated with roms. The only way to get all of the new firmware is to run the ruu. Turge has figured out how to flash radios now without flashing the ruu so thats good. But thats not everything. I'd wait to run the ruu until the devs change their rom base to the new update. Otherwise no custom rom yet. You can root the stock update after installing, just not many goodies atm.

Thank you very much for your help.
When you say the only way to get the new firmware is to run the new RUU, does that mean running the RUU from at&t or one of the modified RUUs posted on here?
If it is the At&t one, the only way to get it to fully update is by going back to the stock 1.15 ROM, correct?

Yep I ran ruu and got it running stock but my 2nd x+ still running old one wit elegancia till roms get updated I don't mind unrooting updating and rooting takes 30 min tops just patiently waiting for a update hell if viper gets updated first ill rock that
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badtlc said:
Thank you very much for your help.
When you say the only way to get the new firmware is to run the new RUU, does that mean running the RUU from at&t or one of the modified RUUs posted on here?
If it is the At&t one, the only way to get it to fully update is by going back to the stock 1.15 ROM, correct?
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The latest ruu for ATT to get the newest firmware is 1.19.502.1 http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_E...178_signed.exe

nugzo said:
The latest ruu for ATT to get the newest firmware is 1.19.502.1 http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_E...178_signed.exe
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Correct, but I wasn't sure if you could update directly to that RUU from a custom ROM and get all the updates like hboot, firmware and radio. I was wondering if I needed to go from a custom ROM back to stock 1.15 and THEN do this 1.19 update to get everything updated properly.

If you update your phone to the latest RUU, you won't be able to installed a custom ROM until the devs update their ROM. You update, you stay stock for a moment. You still can ROOT the stock ROM.
badtlc said:
If it is the At&t one, the only way to get it to fully update is by going back to the stock 1.15 ROM, correct?
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Not exactly. You can upgrade with a RUU if your actual version is equal or lower. You can't downgrade your version unless your phone is S-OFF.
To flash the RUU
Reboot in fastboot mode
type at the prompt >fastboot oem lock
Rebooting
Keep your phone in FASTBOOT USB mode
Run the RUU installer on your computer.
This will FULLY WIPE the phone.

[QUOTE"badtlc"]If it is the At&t one, the only way to get it to fully update is by going back to the stock 1.15 ROM, correct?[/QUOTE]
Not exactly. You can upgrade with a RUU if your actual version is equal or lower. You can't downgrade your version unless your phone is S-OFF.
To flash the RUU
Reboot in fastboot mode
type at the prompt >fastboot oem lock
Rebooting
Keep your phone in FASTBOOT USB mode
Run the RUU installer on your computer.
This will FULLY WIPE the phone.[/QUOTE]
Doing this method, one could use the latest 1.19 directly from HTC and get everything updated? No need to do this method, install the older 1.15, and then do the 1.19 RUU update?

badtlc said:
If it is the At&t one, the only way to get it to fully update is by going back to the stock 1.15 ROM, correct?
Not exactly. You can upgrade with a RUU if your actual version is equal or lower. You can't downgrade your version unless your phone is S-OFF.
To flash the RUU
Reboot in fastboot mode
type at the prompt >fastboot oem lock
Rebooting
Keep your phone in FASTBOOT USB mode
Run the RUU installer on your computer.
This will FULLY WIPE the phone.
Doing this method, one could use the latest 1.19 directly from HTC and get everything updated? No need to do this method, install the older 1.15, and then do the 1.19 RUU update?
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You can do one of two things to get the full update. One is to go back to a 1.15 stock ROM, flash the stock recovery and run the OTA. The other is to run the latest RUU from HTC (the one from the link posted above) after you've flashed the stock recovery and re-locked the bootloader (otherwise the RUU might not proceed). Bare in mind that running the RUU will wipe your phone to factory settings.
I started a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245955 about people's experiences updating and post-update. Once you decide to update feel free to share your experience there!

I have already updated. I went from elegancia. I locked the bootloader, rebooted to fastboot, and then ran the 1.15 stock RUU. After that, I ran the 1.19 update I downloaded from HTC. I was just trying to figure out if I would have went straight from elegancia to 1.19 if everything including radio, kernel, etc. would have updated properly since elegancia was on the phone and not stock version 1.15. I don't know what these RUUs look at before applying their updates.

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[Q] Returning to Stock Issues

Hi,
I installed the ICS leak without being rooted or unlocked and had some issues with it so I unlocked and installed Amon Ra. I flashed the Stock HTC Rezound ROM for Gingerbread from Scott's website (scottsroms.com) and flashed the boot.img file he said to use. This works fine but I want to be able to receive the supposed update tomorrow. I relocked my bootloader using the "fastboot oem lock command" and it works but I cannot get out of fastboot. I searched around and that seems to be normal. Now here's where the issue is, I want to stock RUU but cannot use the Gingerbread RUU available for HBOOT 2.11 because the ICS leak updated HBOOT to 2.21. When I run the RUU for 2.11 (with or without an unlocked bootloader) it proceeds for a while and then says that I have an incorrect RUU and need to get the correct one. How would I downgrade HBOOT to get the RUU to work? Or can I get it to work without downgrading HBOOT?
Sorry for the long post. Help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Only way would to gain s-off...its coming...but no eta yet...
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
Aww
That's disappointing. So you're saying there is no way at all to go back to stock gingerbread via RUU? If so can I go back to the ICS leak and receive tomorrow's update while running that?
Edit: Also, can I receive the update while running the stock GB ROM while unlocked? (can't relock)
You can flash a gb Rom ans the ad card fix. If the ota comes there will be posts on how to update, if radios or hboot changes,etc. It may just be like flashing a Rom.....time will tell.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
I hope it's as easy as flashing a ROM. I also hope that there will be an RUU that I can run that will bring me to the stock ICS update.

Problems getting back to stock

I have a rooted and S-on Evo. The RUU keeps failing, even after I unrooted via the Superuser app.
Keep getting “ERROR [155]: UNKNOWN ERROR” and then it says it can not update the phone.
And then “Please get the correct ROM update utility and try again.”
I am definitely using the correct RUU version. 1.22.651.3.
Also I have tried two different computers and two different USB cables.
Does anyone know how to get this thing working?
if you updated to the latest OTA update; that usually updates your radios and your Hboot which means the old RUU won't work because it has an OLDER HBoot and radios. Your gonna have to wait till the new OTA becomes available as an RUU to be able to go back to stock.
if you didn't take the OTA 2.13 and you are still on 1.22 then try putting your phone on Fastboot and try it that way.
Edit: Ok so it looks like the latest RUU has been uploaded. Look here http://www.filefactory.com/f/b6eb73c80cc97030/
Thanks, I will try fastboot.
However, as I said in the OP, I am on the same version (1.22.651.3) as the RUU I am using...
ronnienyc said:
I have a rooted and S-on Evo. The RUU keeps failing, even after I unrooted via the Superuser app.
Keep getting “ERROR [155]: UNKNOWN ERROR” and then it says it can not update the phone.
And then “Please get the correct ROM update utility and try again.”
I am definitely using the correct RUU version. 1.22.651.3.
Also I have tried two different computers and two different USB cables.
Does anyone know how to get this thing working?
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I ran into the same error 155 issue.
I found the solution and it's quite simple. In the instructions to unroot, they forget to mention that you MUST relock your bootloader (instructions below). Once you relock it, then you can run the RUU for 1.22.651.3.....after that, take the stock OTA update.
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to-re-lock-htc-one-x-bootloader/
It helps to have HTC Sync installed too
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Is there another site with the new ruu?
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
running "fastboot oem lock" yields "waiting for device," and this stays on the screen forever. It doesn't work...
OK, finally got it to lock. Now, trying to see if I can get that RUU to work...it seems to be working. I think the issue was that I was not properly in fastboot mode.
So my plan is this:
RUU
OTA (to get the latest kernel and such)
Root/Unlock
MeanROM
Hypeo said:
It helps to have HTC Sync installed too
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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Correct - this is an important step too. HTC Sync must be fully installed, drivers and all.
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ronnienyc said:
OK, finally got it to lock. Now, trying to see if I can get that RUU to work...it seems to be working. I think the issue was that I was not properly in fastboot mode.
So my plan is this:
RUU
OTA (to get the latest kernel and such)
Root/Unlock
MeanROM
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Congrats!
That's my plan, except I'm keeping the stock ROM. If you find a way to Root, let me know - I tried RegawMOD, but I could not get it to work
ronnienyc said:
OK, finally got it to lock. Now, trying to see if I can get that RUU to work...it seems to be working. I think the issue was that I was not properly in fastboot mode.
So my plan is this:
RUU
OTA (to get the latest kernel and such)
Root/Unlock
MeanROM
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I would highly suggest NOT taking the OTA...
The reason they now have a new h-boot is because there was a vulnerability in the old one.
Simply flash a new ROM based on the lastest OTA.
ronnienyc said:
OK, finally got it to lock. Now, trying to see if I can get that RUU to work...it seems to be working. I think the issue was that I was not properly in fastboot mode.
So my plan is this:
RUU
OTA (to get the latest kernel and such)
Root/Unlock
MeanROM
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I would highly suggest NOT taking the OTA...
The reason they now have a new h-boot is because there was a vulnerability in the old one.
Simply flash a new ROM based on the lastest OTA.
Rxpert said:
I would highly suggest NOT taking the OTA...
The reason they now have a new h-boot is because there was a vulnerability in the old one.
Simply flash a new ROM based on the lastest OTA.
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I suggest no OTA as well!
Rxpert said:
I would highly suggest NOT taking the OTA...
The reason they now have a new h-boot is because there was a vulnerability in the old one.
Simply flash a new ROM based on the lastest OTA.
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That's not always true, and almost all new major releases come with a new hboot. In fact I can't remember any updates on my 0g evo, evo 3d, and evo LTE, that didn't come with a new hboot. The fact of the matter is, people that are s-on and hboot 1.15 won't be able to upgrade their radios and firmware unless they take the ota or run the ruu. This update makes the phone fly and is worth it.
On the other post, regaw mod does work with unlocking and installing twrp, you will have to install a rooted rom afterwards though because regaw mod fails at the rooting step.
Sent from my icrap 2 using Tapatalk HD
cruise350 said:
The fact of the matter is, people that are s-on and hboot 1.15 won't be able to upgrade their radios and firmware unless they take the ota or run the ruu. This update makes the phone fly and is worth it.
On the other post, regaw mod does work with unlocking and installing twrp, you will have to install a rooted rom afterwards though because regaw mod fails at the rooting step.
Sent from my icrap 2 using Tapatalk HD
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Sweet this is actually the point where I'm at. HTC Dev unlocked, s-on, hboot 1.15 and rocking twrp. I've been trying to parse through all of the numerous posts on a method to go ahead and install the ota updates. I actually believe I'm 2 down as I haven't updated ever and I got the phone @ launch. I recall reading somewhere that just going back to the stock recovery is a viable option if I want to go w/ the ota updates. I don't really have any interest in different ROMs (I scratch that itch w/ my evo 3d).
tl;dr Whats the least painful way to install the OTA updates post HTC Dev unlock, s-on, twrp recovery, and hboot 1.15?

[Q] return to stock, S-ON

hey everyone, this is my first htc device and i'm having an issue. When i got it, it was running scott's clean rom ICS leak. I installed the latest cm10(4.2.x). no problem... i decided i wanted to try out some new roms and maybe even give sense based roms a shot. Here is the problem... every rom i install other than CM10 constantly reboots. Best i've been able to tell is whenever it needs to use the radio for data transmission, it will reboot. this is a pain. I figured the easiest thing to do would be to return to stock and start all over, but since this is my first HTC, i could use some help.
here is my phone info:
HTC Rezound
S-ON
Amon-Ra recovery
CM10(4.2.1) nightly build 10.1-20130209-unofficial-vigor
kernel 3.0.16-gcbef745
baseband version 0.95.00.1118r, 0.95.00.1223r
please help
Follow the instructions here to return your phone to stock and update the firmware - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
will this work if i am s-on?
ps3guru said:
will this work if i am s-on?
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Yes. S-off just let's you downgrade firmware and automatically flash kernels when you flash a ROM.
However, I wouldn't use that global leak since you are s-on. You won't be able to downgrade from it. There's an official global OTA out now, so if you use the latest official RUU here:
http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Vigor
You can get back to stock, take the OTAs to get you to xx.xxx.xx.13 and then to the new global OTA so you will be on the latest official global stock. Then I would make a nandroid of that so you'll always have it to go back to easily before flashing a different ROM.
Also, are you flashing the kernel for each ROM after flashing the ROM? I think an incompatible kernel could cause problems.
i flash the rom and then the hboot.img for each new rom. i was also wondering about incomplete kernels or some leftover part of my cm10.1 that doesnt get overwritten and conflicts with the other roms... thanks a bunch, youve been a great help. i'll start this off hopefully tonight and post any updates
i ran the RUU and keep getting errors, saying it is unable to flash my phone. also, checking the version numbers, it appears my current cm10.1 rom is tied to the 605.2 global leak. i've also tried downloading the official releases and flashing them via fastboot, however, every downloaded zip gives me an error when i try to open them in windows and they do not flash correctly via fastboot. any ideas? i'll run through these again and grab the specific error codes.
here's what the RUU is telling me
4.03.605.2 current
3.14.605.12 new
error 140 bootloader version error
hboot-2.11.0000
radio-0.95.00.1118r/0.95.00.1223r
openDSP-v10.3.0.7611.00.0919
i got this error after doing and oem lock in fastboot. previously i was getting an "unknown error"
In order to run an RUU put out by Verizon you need stock recovery. Try that.
- "Is it dark in there?"
ps3guru said:
here's what the RUU is telling me
4.03.605.2 current
3.14.605.12 new
error 140 bootloader version error
hboot-2.11.0000
radio-0.95.00.1118r/0.95.00.1223r
openDSP-v10.3.0.7611.00.0919
i got this error after doing and oem lock in fastboot. previously i was getting an "unknown error"
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You're trying to install an older version then you already have on the phone, that's not gonna work.
It appears you already installed the global RUU at some point, use it from the link I posted above...
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drynyks said:
In order to run an RUU put out by Verizon you need stock recovery. Try that.
- "Is it dark in there?"
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No you don't since it's installed while in the bootloader, the RUU will put it back to stock as part of running it.
you guys have been tons of help! i've tried a number of times with the RUU.exe programs and using fastboot and have gotten nothing but errors. Finally, i did what i should have done from the beginning... i took the global RUU 4.xx.605.2, placed it on the sd card and renamed it ph98img.zip and let it boot intot he bootloader while the phone was relocked. i had tried this while unlocked with no success. and behold, my rezound is updating, i am currently on the newest hboot and am updating the rest and returning it to stock. from there, now that i'll have the newest radios and hboot, i'm going to re-unlock it and install some good ole sense based ics roms w/ jb features... haha
This has been a great learning session for me as i thought i was pretty affluent w/ android modding, but leave it to htc to throw me some curveballs.
thanks again guys, i'll pass on whatever knowledge i gain and "pay it forward" from here.

[Q] HTC One 1.25.502.15

I've already unlocked bootloader and rooted device, following which I realized that there is no s-off option for me on the current hboot I have (1.44 after May) and not realizing that s-off is available for the latest AT&T release with 4.3. This is my second HTC device but it is my first go at s-off. I've been doing a lot of research but keep hitting dead ends it seems. Ideally, I would like to flash back to stock recovery and unroot by flashing stock 1.26.502.15 RUU (which is what I am currently on) so I can get OTA then use rumrunner to obtain s-off. I've also looked into downgrading/upgrading the current software number from 1.26.502.15 to 1.26.502.12/3.17.502.3 so I can use revone/rumrunner but I can't confirm whether or not I can flash RUU without being s-off'ed. If anyone can provide any advise I would greatly appreciate it. I'm also not sure if I'm using the terminologies correctly or if this is even posted in the right section.. Thanks in advance!
If you are currently on .12 firmware then you should still have 1.44 HBoot. If so, all you need is REVONE to S-Off. Doing anything else will make it even more of a chore. I believe if you update after then it is S-On again unless you flash one of the other ROM's that are available. You can also run the current RUU from the HTC website to give you the 4.3 update, but you will have 1.55, thus having to use Rumrunner. To run the current RUU, I think you have to relock it too, and unlock it again, at least I did with AIO. You can run any RUU without S-Off that is compatible with ATT. If you want the Brightstar GPE RUU, then yes, you must have S-Off, and change the CID to match that version, and etc for other versions.
hack14u said:
If you are currently on .12 firmware then you should still have 1.44 HBoot. If so, all you need is REVONE to S-Off. Doing anything else will make it even more of a chore. I believe if you update after then it is S-On again unless you flash one of the other ROM's that are available. You can also run the current RUU from the HTC website to give you the 4.3 update, but you will have 1.55, thus having to use Rumrunner. To run the current RUU, I think you have to relock it too, and unlock it again, at least I did with AIO. You can run any RUU without S-Off that is compatible with ATT. If you want the Brightstar GPE RUU, then yes, you must have S-Off, and change the CID to match that version, and etc for other versions.
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I'm on .15 right now but didn't know if I could update to HTC website 4.3 because I am currently unlocked and rooted and do not have s-off. When I relocked bootloader and tried OTA I had to reboot and it just kept rebooting to TWRP and would not update successfully. So I didn't think the manual update would work?
The manual update will work, but it will WIPE everything. Been there done that, not a big deal though. Went through it, re-unlocked, re-flashed CWM, and that was that. I was going to do S-Off to get the GPE RUU, but heck, with the ATT Remove Bloat script, don't see the need anymore. Got 4.3 running as smooth as it can be, no ATT bloat, and GREAT battery life.
So even though I do NOT have S-off, I can still use the HTC released update to flash onto my phone with the current modifications that I've made already (Unlock and root on JB 4.1.2, software 1.26.502.15, hboot 1.44)? I was under the impression that with S-ON you cannot flash RUU, is that not correct? In the current state, I have to just re-lock bootloader and I can install the official HTC released update? And after which all my data will be wiped, including the custom recovery (TWRP) and root, all of this will be gone? (which is fine) I just have been researching and see that bricking the device is more likely to happen if the device is S-ON and you attempt to flash.
Rumrummer actually has a version available for 1.26.502.15, I used it on Sunday successfully to gain s-off with my mom's phone.
LightSpeedIII said:
Rumrummer actually has a version available for 1.26.502.15, I used it on Sunday successfully to gain s-off with my mom's phone.
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are you shure? i have a htc one at&t on my hands with 1.26.502.15 firmware and it can not be done. I think you are very confused, 1.26.502.12 firmware is not the same!
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merck3d said:
So even though I do NOT have S-off, I can still use the HTC released update to flash onto my phone with the current modifications that I've made already (Unlock and root on JB 4.1.2, software 1.26.502.15, hboot 1.44)? I was under the impression that with S-ON you cannot flash RUU, is that not correct? In the current state, I have to just re-lock bootloader and I can install the official HTC released update? And after which all my data will be wiped, including the custom recovery (TWRP) and root, all of this will be gone? (which is fine) I just have been researching and see that bricking the device is more likely to happen if the device is S-ON and you attempt to flash.
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With S-ON
As far as i have read, you can:
Update to a newer firmware. (but i don't really know if you can flash another htc one rom model, eg. flash an m7 rom into a m7att phone)
Reflash the same stock firmware via recovery (http://www.htc1guru.com/downloads)
YOU CAN NOT DOWNGRADE.
Install CWM Recovery or TWRP Recovery.
Root.
mpjoe2000 said:
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I am very sure, I still have the zip in my downloads folder, however, Rumrunner has been updated to be universal across most firmwares, this should include 1.26.502.15 because there was a version of rumrunner for it previously. Just go to rumrunner.us and follow their instructions.
LightSpeedIII said:
I am very sure, I still have the zip in my downloads folder, however, Rumrunner has been updated to be universal across most firmwares, this should include 1.26.502.15 because there was a version of rumrunner for it previously. Just go to rumrunner.us and follow their instructions.
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you are right!!! i have a linux firewall old pc at home + a tplink open-wrt firmware, and i had to connect my modem's internet device directly to my pc to allow rumrunner to work properly!
No problem, glad I could help

htc one m7 stock rom possibility

hey, ihave a htc one m7 on 4.2.2 android ice cold project rom and ive been trying to go back to stock htc sense rom but downgrade from stock 5.0.2 and I cant seem to do it, ive tried ota update zip files, stock odexed rom but nothing seems to work, I got the stock rom on but then the touch screen didn't work so had to go back to aicp. I also cant get s-off as ive got hboot 1.61 and cant afford to buy sunshine.
any help would be much appreciated thanks.
You need the RUU then. The reason touch won't work is because the firmware is not matched to the OS. This is a common HTC thing. You have to find the RUU that corresponds to your carrier or region as well as being the same or newer than the firmware you are on now since you are S-On. You must relock your bootloader to install the RUU while being S-On as well.
es0tericcha0s said:
You need the RUU then. The reason touch won't work is because the firmware is not matched to the OS. This is a common HTC thing. You have to find the RUU that corresponds to your carrier or region as well as being the same or newer than the firmware you are on now since you are S-On. You must relock your bootloader to install the RUU while being S-On as well.
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could you help me find then compatible RUU please? I don't know what one id use. I was hoping to downgrade from lollipop but I don't think ill be able to.
ive went back to the os that didn't work with touch and am going to do and ota update, but how would I get my device to allow ota updates again? do I have to put the recovery back to stock as well as relock bootloader or is there more to it?
You'll need fastboot to make sure you are getting the correct version. If you do not have it, get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 then boot to the bootloader and run this command:
fastboot getvar all
Post results but remove your IMEI and serial number.
You definitely can not downgrade while S-On. You won't need to worry about OTAs as the RUU will do everything for you. If you do want to enable OTAs after you get everything matched up, then yes, you would need to leave the system and the recovery stock.
would there be anyway for me to downgrade then? ive tried flashing other firmware and so far I might have got it, I just need to wait for my phone to charge till I know
You can flash an older rom, but a true downgrade with everything matched is not possible while being S-On.
es0tericcha0s said:
You can flash an older rom, but a true downgrade with everything matched is not possible while being S-On.
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what rom could I flash?
How could I know without knowing which M7 you are using and what firmware is on it? I've already provided instructions for what was needed for additional info.

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