Hi folks,
Thought it would be best to start a new thread instead of clutter the release thread.
What do we make of the JellyBean upgrade for the Xperia Tablet S?
So far;
- Not received any random shuts downs, the device used to turn off over night.
- Screen flickering 'seems' to have been eradicated.
- Battery life has improved considerably when compared to a days usage on ICS yesterday.
- UI is indeed buttery smooth - no lag experience yet.
- Device wakes up instantly when the power button is pushed. Used to take a few seconds on ICS.
- Camera quality seems better for me. Images aren't blurred.
- Rendering issue with the default browser seems to have been fixed.
The tablet now seems to well rounded off. Perhaps if this was released earlier, they'd made a few more sales.
Overall, I'm pretty satisfied.
Things ive observed:
Positive:
- No shutdowns.
- No issues with video playback.
- Rendering in browser is indeed better.
- Battery life is better, 4.0.3 is known for battery ineffectiveness.
- Less overall delays, better transitions.
- Havent noticed screen flickering for now.
Negative:
- Wifi problem still persists, wifi still gets disconnected if the display is switched off. It then gets reconnected again, but its still annoying.
- Wifi still cant be turned on when you click on the settings bar in bottom right, instead of that, you need to enter in the settings menu first.
- Homescreen is still uncustomisable (you cant add or remove home screens)
- Overall, i cant see why it took Sony so long to release this tablet out, since most of the improvements are already Jelly Bean Stock related.
- AGAIN, THE BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED AND THE TABLET IS HARD TO ROOT
Ubichinon said:
wifi still gets disconnected if the display is switched off. It then gets reconnected again, but its still annoying
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Yes, is the way it supposed to be by default.. You have to configure the wifi policy.. I never had any problems with the wifi.. and I still have ICS. :good:
btw!.. is the home launcher the same? the app drawer is transparent now? or is black again? Thanks! and sorry for my bad English!
rspy said:
Yes, is the way it supposed to be by default.. You have to configure the wifi policy.. I never had any problems with the wifi.. and I still have ICS. :good:
btw!.. is the home launcher the same? the app drawer is transparent now? or is black again? Thanks! and sorry for my bad English!
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This isnt the way its suppose to be, and it isnt like that on any other android device, including my Xperia Arc S and my friends Galaxy S3.
Normally, when you turn off the screen, the wifi is supposed to be on, so you still recieve notifications, but on XTS, it doesnt work, even if you set the wifi options to "Never turn off Wifi when turning off the display, even if the Wifi isnt being used".
Pros
No shutdowns so far
Stock browser is really fluid and support flash
Is all around more stable and fixed some graphics issues
Its jellybean, so we got the "new" api
Better multitasking
Cons
The 3d graphic performance has decreased a lot
The ui is a combination of sony, ics and jellybean and is not... clean
New graphic glitches
No major update feel, this is like ics with some things ported from jb...really mediocre
improvements
more respondsive faster then 4.0.3
5G performance wen't up 85%
no random shutdowns yet.
bluetooth headset interfearance with 5G not had so far think its fixed, can't confirm 2.4g yet.
bugs
google voice if saying set alarm in 10 hours it searches instead or sets alarm in 2 hours, or searched random stuff non related to what if asked it to do.
text got ported from xperia T which low resolution font some of ui elements got ported asswell.
if you look at the bar you see its bit pixelated even on big fonts.
UI is't butter smooth always
apps crash a lot especialy stock browser on sony america's own forum.
sony remotes don't fully save or only partly save or not save at all setup problem.
screen flickering is now a spark that sometimes occurs but less common.
missing stuff
jelly bean home launcher
jelly bean butter smooth animations.
jelly bean homescreen
jelly bean lock screen
jelly bean fonts icons
jelly bean camera app the one now is from ICS
In before get a full refund already, btw they did offer me one today i just told them i don't want one.
I'm not any better off with different brand due my curse anyway.
Oh, screen flickering has completely gone for me to.
You've basically covered everything there is about this update. It's definitely a lot more polished than ics ever was, which I am grateful for.
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This isnt the way its suppose to be, and it isnt like that on any other android device, including my Xperia Arc S and my friends Galaxy S3.
Normally, when you turn off the screen, the wifi is supposed to be on, so you still recieve notifications, but on XTS, it doesnt work, even if you set the wifi options to "Never turn off Wifi when turning off the display, even if the Wifi isnt being used".
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I'm not really sure if these wi-fi drops are a bug anymore, as this could simply be a 'deep-sleep' or battery saving function. I have a friend who's tab also has these drops, although I can't quite remember what it was.
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You've basically covered everything there is about this update. It's definitely a lot more polished than ics ever was, which I am grateful for.
I'm not really sure if these wi-fi drops are a bug anymore, as this could simply be a 'deep-sleep' or battery saving function. I have a friend who's tab also has these drops, although I can't quite remember what it was.
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some apps can prevent sleep in certain conditions are met
If you uploading something then disable screen wifi disables and everything you upload gets error due wifi being disconnected.
defiantly still bugged
Zer0K3wL said:
improvements
more respondsive faster then 4.0.3
5G performance wen't up 85%
no random shutdowns yet.
bluetooth headset interfearance with 5G not had so far think its fixed, can't confirm 2.4g yet.
bugs
google voice if saying set alarm in 10 hours it searches instead or sets alarm in 2 hours, or searched random stuff non related to what if asked it to do.
text got ported from xperia T which low resolution font some of ui elements got ported asswell.
if you look at the bar you see its bit pixelated even on big fonts.
UI is't butter smooth always
apps crash a lot especialy stock browser on sony america's own forum.
sony remotes don't fully save or only partly save or not save at all setup problem.
screen flickering is now a spark that sometimes occurs but less common.
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Blurred fonts?
If anything, all my fonts are a big improvement over ICS, sharp, crisp and certainly no blurring.
No WiFi issues here either.
Right..
Zer0K3wL said:
bugs
google voice if saying set alarm in 10 hours it searches instead or sets alarm in 2 hours, or searched random stuff non related to what if asked it to do.
text got ported from xperia T which low resolution font some of ui elements got ported asswell.
if you look at the bar you see its bit pixelated even on big fonts.
UI is't butter smooth always
apps crash a lot especialy stock browser on sony america's own forum.
sony remotes don't fully save or only partly save or not save at all setup problem.
screen flickering is now a spark that sometimes occurs but less common.
missing stuff
jelly bean home launcher
jelly bean butter smooth animations.
jelly bean homescreen
jelly bean lock screen
jelly bean fonts icons
jelly bean camera app the one now is from ICS
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I just tried setting a number of alarms and various commands with Google Voice and it worked flawlessly, do you think it might be your accent that it is having trouble with?
Font's are really clear on mine as well as SWF has reported, perhaps there is something wrong with your screen? Just had a look with a magnifying glass as well and doesn't seem to be any excessive anti-aliasing either? Alot of fonts are vector based, which can scale without quality degradation, I would be surprised it these were a bitmap font, but don't know for sure.
I agree with your points about the stock JB icons and homescreens, damn Sony and their branding across all devices! If only they could just leave JB as it is and pop their bloatware on.
Sounds like Sony have been pretty reasonable with you to offer you a full refund for the tablet, if you do decide to turn that down you really will have to stop complaining about it, as much as you want to, your voice just isn't going to speed up their updates and/or improve their quality for you. Just going to have to suck it and and live with it...glitches an' all.
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I just tried setting a number of alarms and various commands with Google Voice and it worked flawlessly, do you think it might be your accent that it is having trouble with?
Font's are really clear on mine as well as SWF has reported, perhaps there is something wrong with your screen? Just had a look with a magnifying glass as well and doesn't seem to be any excessive anti-aliasing either? Alot of fonts are vector based, which can scale without quality degradation, I would be surprised it these were a bitmap font, but don't know for sure.
I agree with your points about the stock JB icons and homescreens, damn Sony and their branding across all devices! If only they could just leave JB as it is and pop their bloatware on.
Sounds like Sony have been pretty reasonable with you to offer you a full refund for the tablet, if you do decide to turn that down you really will have to stop complaining about it, as much as you want to, your voice just isn't going to speed up their updates and/or improve their quality for you. Just going to have to suck it and and live with it...glitches an' all.
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it actualy often search it instead which makes me think its not just accent.
If i ask who's president of america it does work correctly.
I can set dutch voice recognition asswell inside google voice no problem but again it works like crap and even worse.
Maybe its my top denture that i'm having or my tmj dysorder which makes me speak little harder.
Anyway if read so far more people reporting issues with font, old font was more crispier and sharper in ics 4.0.3 release6b
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Think you not realising some issues might be just per region also or certain range, maybe your lucky or maybe your just blind.
Maybe its my social disability and my autism, but as i understand you now you talk as if no one has issues and their no issues for anyone.
then again your quoting me on that which makes me believe you think their no issues at all and i'm just picky guy.
Anyway if not always been picky but if you buy lot products in a year and see they are all DOA death on arival or damaged on arival or death after a month or damaged after a month, you really start to get pissed off a lot.
Now fear is playing with me and i got replacement which has right side where buttons are not sealed off correctly.
Sony insisted to give full refund even after i told them i don't want to.
It was't untill i say'd i was talking with other people from sony about software bugs and passing on feedback through them to the devs that they given me the choice for replacement.
Anyway won't known whats gonna happen untill tomorow.
Anyway i can basically take peak inside since not sealed properly which made me panick that was't splash proofed either.
Also a close of port was molten ruber.
I see broken products as a curse that i wanna get rid off asap, i wanna buy products that are in perfect quality condition not semi quality or poor quality.
software or hardware related.
Even wen't through like 12 eye glasses in single year all different opticiens all either scratch coating not right or AR coating not working.
along with all other problems if had with even samsung corrupt schandal they pulled with me i developed lot stress and tmj dysorder.
Anyway every time i buy something their something wrong it drains my will to life.
These software issues like blurry text i can life with for the momment better then random shutdowns, but these are issues that should be adressed and fixed.
The biggest deal atm is missing jelly bean homescreen and features.
but i do realise they just fixed random shutdowns and felt it was improvement aka rushed out for just that reason, and that a few follow up updates will follow soon to slowly add missing stuff and fix current bugs.
Zer0K3wL said:
[/COLOR]Think you not realising some issues might be just per region also or certain range, maybe your lucky or maybe your just blind
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Ok ok, I'm not getting into the pissing match again, we all know what happened last time.
But maybe have a think about your previous statement as it might actually be more relevant to you, not me. I have nice clear text and you don't - so who is blind? Maybe take a picture up close and in focus and post it and we could compare to see if your anti-aliasing is much worse than on other users, just a thought.
Over and out.
Keep the tone of the conversation civil, or I'll close the thread.
MD
Pressing the power button to wake is still kinda slow for me but it's whatever, and Wi-Fi reconnects a lot faster when it comes back from sleep so I have no problem with it.
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When pressing the power button it takes a while to wake up on mine too! When I enable WiFi I have to disable and re-enable it to connect to any of my saved networks most of the times! :/
Hmm, that's interesting as the device wakes up instantly and the WiFi reconnects immediately too!
Weird.
Xperia Tablet S
I received JB update for my device yesterday. Now i got some little bugs.
After update, i tried to charge the battery. At %90, lockcreen notification indicated full charge and red led on side of the device turned to green. Anyway I continued to charge and it could reach %100.
Another issue, yesterday night i used my device over 1 hour watching youtube and surfing the net without any problems. This morning i started to watch youtube, but in the middle of a video device lost wifi signal for a while and recovered again. Then it started to do the same thing frequently (like maybe 3 minutes intervals). I shut down the device completely ad restarted, now i'm observing with a long youtube video.
One more thing. Sometimes (but very rarely) i see a thin horizontal line on the screen. It looks like a noise.
Regards,
I noticed the battery percentage issue in ICS, but seeing as though my Xperia T also had it, I assumed it was some built in feature by Sony?
Power saving perhaps?
Also, since running JellyBean, I've seen the line you mentioned on 2 occasions. Did I read somewhere that some Tegra 3 devices experience it - seems rare though, or at least alot rarer than the screen flickering on ICS?
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Hi,
After ICS update I noticed a very annoing and frequent bug.
It was described by other users in these subforums, and factory reset can not help it.
It is difficult to describe, as it lasts for maybe one tenth of a second and I can't find a proper word for this as I'm not a native English speaker.
But I recorded a video, so you can see this.
It's like a single flickerring in a shape of triangle in left bottom part of the active window or entire screen - a short white blink.
In the video I show it happening when pressing Menu for Recent Tasks, but it happens in other occasions too.
When playing video there are also some 1/10 second distortions - difficult to describe, but I suspect they have something in common with this bug...
Let's hope Sony will see this and fix this bug.
I really wonder how such a bug could have left after the development stage. I, as a regular user, have noticed this after a couple of hours of playing with the tablet. What about Sony testers?
It's annoying!! its happening to me also, mines are black, and they happen in the left side of the tablet screen. :/
Not seeing flickering on mine yet.
Im just here because i am looking for a system dump to port things but it is a common issue on the Asus Transformer on ICS as well It is not a device specific bug but rather one in google's code. One fix is to only have <5 apps running at a time
Mine does not show this flickering .
Also....this is a development section of the forum . Your question should have been posted in the Tablet S General section
This is happening to a lot of us. It has already been discussed in the General section under the ICS First Impressions topic.
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Yes I have the flickering, and it happens a lot using recent apps on the homescreen.
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Im just here because i am looking for a system dump to port things but it is a common issue on the Asus Transformer on ICS as well It is not a device specific bug but rather one in google's code. One fix is to only have <5 apps running at a time
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This is very useful info. Thank you!!!!
I had it a little yesterday but it's gone today
Got it too but its not that annoying,
It does not happen all the time its just an google thing,
It will not damage anything but if you think its to annoying then you could try
to use a CPU speed up "Dont apply EXTREME" that will higher the chance to
crash your device, i think the tegra chip is getting to much info to read,
so its a sort of buffer overrun maby speed up app will lower the flickering
YF,
Mahaco
You can't over clock the kernel.. We don't have a kernel which supports that yet
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I have flickering too. It's probably due to low ram at certain points. Even with the flickering on occasion, the recent apps list is MUCH faster than on Honeycomb.
the flickering only happens on my tablet when it's in the cradle on clock mode and it stops completely if I use a regular wallpaper instead of a live wallpaper
To me flickering happens when I open recent apps on the launcher or when I ve a popup (inside the application, on internet etc.) with a dark trasparent effect under. The same graphical problem turn up heavily with the youtube application or sometime using keyboard.
It's very very annoying this problem. It doesn't limit the use of the tablet, which is very fast and smooth, but simply ruins something which, simply, would be perfect without it.
It will be interesting create a class action, a mail, with the signature of who wants a resolution of this problem, to send to Sony for forcing it to realize a solution.
sfctac said:
Not seeing flickering on mine yet.
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Let me retract my previous statement. Since I've rooted ICS and have been using it more and I do see screen flickering occasionally.
I can't say that I see any performance improvement with ICS though.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/lg-optimus-4x-hands-on/
25 seconds into the video, you can see it happen on the new LG optimus 4X, i think it may be something to do with ICS.
If you people bothered to read the entire thread you would see that it has happened to other tablets. Not only the Sony. ASUS has this problem as well.
Read the thread and you will see
Yup ISC bug, first i didn't give a shhh.. but now its getting pretty annoying i hope it will be better with 4.0.4. Wich runs super smooth on my Samsung Galaxy S2 in tablet mode.
yes, have the same problem! It's annoying!
Mahaco said:
Yup ISC bug, first i didn't give a shhh.. but now its getting pretty annoying i hope it will be better with 4.0.4. Wich runs super smooth on my Samsung Galaxy S2 in tablet mode.
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I second this!
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Is anyone else not impressed with Ice Cream Sandwich the recent 'update' for our Sony S tablets?
I, and I suspect many others have many issues, in particular mine are:
Poor WiFi stability, weaker signal, takes a while to connect, and, yes, I'm only a few metres from my router.
Screen flickers for no apparent reason ... just annoying.
A lot of my apps don't work anymore, or, are sluggish at best, even paid 'pro' apps too.
It seems to lock up on (many) occasions, can't change screens, powering on and off, mostly clears this ..... for a while!
If I could, I'd be happy to back revert to Honeycome, the previous OS, it was faster, stable, all my apps worked great, good WiFi.
It's not a pleasent experience using the Sony S tablet anymore .........
Anyone else thoughts on this?
Sorry, I but I do not share your woes. I got my tablet only a few weeks before ICS was released and although I experience one or two issues, and I certainly am not having the problems you seem to be.
Yes, I the screen flickering is annoying.. Curiously this is mainly an issue when I am running YouTube. But I am certainly experiencing less issues now than I was with HC. I can stay connected to wifi, and for a start. Which was a challenge with HC.
I appreciate that new SW comes with bugs. And am disappointed that the length of time it takes for Android bugs to be fixed. But generally, and I find ICS ok.
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WIFI
I am in THE USA and i am having a lot of trouble with the wifi on this tablet...it works when it wants to basically.... i have to turn wifi off then on and it works. SO UPDATE FROM SONY NEEDED TO ALL USERS!!!
LOVE ME,
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ICS Rocks! :victory:
I am happy with ICS, no problem at all on my unrooted tablet s.
It's faster and more smooth than before !
For me ICS has soem good and some bad changes:
good:
1) faster, specially the remote is now a lot faster to change device
2) some nice new features, like the small apps
3) wifi works better. It starts faster and more reliable. Before ICS I often had to start it manually after sleep. Now it starts automatically almost always.
bad:
1) remote gets stuck sometimes and I need to wait 10-15 secs before it works again (daily)
2) system locks up now and then and needs to be reset via the reset pin (about once a week)
3) screen flicker (does not bother me much, very minor thing)
Overall I would recommend ICS update, but it is not perfect
If you had your screen in stand-by, you wi-fi would probaly be off, thats not a big deal and yes its a bug, but its not going to be repaired atm, so we have to live with it, even if you turn on your screen again, it won't search automatic for signal, but only thing you have to do is going to settings>wi-fi and thats it not even touching other buttons, then it will auto detect and connect no problem,
The screen flickering, well yes its annoying but no its not that bad, just make shure the tab hasn't many apps working at the same time, keep killing apps, and it will happen not as much anymore,
I think ICS is way better then Honeycomb, so not only the looks but also the system, its fast good looking and stable. at least for me. i can't complain so i won't 2 little things can not end the pleasure of this beatifull tablet,
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet, or simply buy a normal Laptop, android is growing really fast but its not as big as other olders systems, be proud with what you have.
Please keep in mind i'm dutch so my english could be ****ty.
Mahaco said:
If you had your screen in stand-by, you wi-fi would probaly be off, thats not a big deal and yes its a bug, but its not going to be repaired atm, so we have to live with it, even if you turn on your screen again, it won't search automatic for signal, but only thing you have to do is going to settings>wi-fi and thats it not even touching other buttons, then it will auto detect and connect no problem,
The screen flickering, well yes its annoying but no its not that bad, just make shure the tab hasn't many apps working at the same time, keep killing apps, and it will happen not as much anymore,
I think ICS is way better then Honeycomb, so not only the looks but also the system, its fast good looking and stable. at least for me. i can't complain so i won't 2 little things can not end the pleasure of this beatifull tablet,
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet, or simply buy a normal Laptop, android is growing really fast but its not as big as other olders systems, be proud with what you have.
Please keep in mind i'm dutch so my english could be ****ty.
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My Wi-Fi reconnects automatically and immediately when the screen turns on again before and after the upgrade to ICS !
If you don't want any problems just wait for the Windows 8 microsoft Tablet? Who knows if that will be the case
Hi guys, I'm running the latest version of Slim Bean with stock modem XXLE8 and whatever kernel comes with Slim. I've noticed that there is a 1.5-2 second delay upon hitting the power or home button to the screen turning on and being ready to use. It's pretty annoying as you can imagine, I've actually figured out what the problem is, my phone is going to deep sleep too early and is taking up to 2 seconds to wake up, I wouldn't mind this if the phone has been left alone for 2 hours or so, but if I leave my phone for 5 minutes I shouldn't have to wait 2 seconds to unlock it. I came to this conclusion by using the app softlocker from the market, which disables sleep, and the lockscreen is perfectly fine with no lag, so should I try a new modem or a new kernel or is there something else I have to try to solve this issue?
There are already some discussions about that problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1636680
It is a very annoying problem and I don't really understand how a top range device like the Galaxy S3 has such a problem.
I was hopping that the official Jelly Bean update would fix it... If it does not, I will contact Samsung (as should everyone who is annoyed by the wake up lag).
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There are already some discussions about that problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1636680
It is a very annoying problem and I don't really understand how a top range device like the Galaxy S3 has such a problem.
I was hopping that the official Jelly Bean update would fix it... If it does not, I will contact Samsung (as should everyone who is annoyed by the wake up lag).
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I've read both but neither seem to provide much of a solution. It is pretty ridiculous a phone like the S3 with such powerful hardware suffers from unlock lag. My HTC Desire Z used to unlock instantly... Kinda disappointing.
I'm totally annoyed because of this problem, too.
isn't there a kernel or something where this doesnt happen??
No issues with Omega v34, instant
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I'm totally annoyed because of this problem, too.
isn't there a kernel or something where this doesnt happen??
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I've been looking but can't seem to find one. The delay is about 1.5-2 seconds on Siyah, was about the same with YANK kernel.
jj92942000 said:
No issues with Omega v34, instant
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Hmmmmm I might flash a stock rom and check it out because I don't remember it happening when I was running stock, tho that was for a grand total of 3 days lol.
This has always been a particular issue surrounding the Android software in terms of the optimisation of the OS...Keep in mind that kernels and ROMs with plently of adjustment may also mean plenty of variables, as small settings adjustments may alter and cause detrimental lags and issues as such. I use Phenomenal which is pretty good as there is little adjustments, disabled logs and undervolted...very good battery and response...I would recommend looking at something like that...unfortunately, should you wish not to root your device and keep it as standard, you may look at if there is an app that might be causing your the issue...but please note that slow unlocking/wake is because the device is in deep sleep.
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This has always been a particular issue surrounding the Android software in terms of the optimisation of the OS...Keep in mind that kernels and ROMs with plently of adjustment may also mean plenty of variables, as small settings adjustments may alter and cause detrimental lags and issues as such. I use Phenomenal which is pretty good as there is little adjustments, disabled logs and undervolted...very good battery and response...I would recommend looking at something like that...unfortunately, should you wish not to root your device and keep it as standard, you may look at if there is an app that might be causing your the issue...but please note that slow unlocking/wake is because the device is in deep sleep.
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sure, but i own quite a view other android phones and none behaves like the s3, not even the superlow-budget htc one v
i installed the omega 4.2 AOKP rom today, but the lag is there, too....i got back to arhd for now...
theres a app called softlocker, but with that the cpu never gets to deepsleep, my s3 gets warm and the battery drains badly
I have intermittent issues with Sense-based roms, that I also experienced on stock that I'm wondering if anyone else has or has a fix for. Basically, sporadically the brightness toggle in the Power Control widget becomes very slow for the hardware to respond. Another issue that may be related as this happens with phone calls too, and I suspect the two may be related if it is the result of a background process being killed by Sense's own aggressive background process killing.
I'll hit the toggle and get immediate visual feedback (button effect occurs on the UI), I'll hit it a few more times with still no effect. Then, maybe 5-10 seconds later, the actual screen brightness will start toggling like crazy based on how many times I clicked it. Similarly in the phone app, if I dial a number and hit the button to connect, nothing happens. It just hangs out for like 5-10+ seconds then if I'm lucky actually goes to connect the call. This issue occurs sporadically, and seems to be independent of any load-based factors. I suspect it's a software issue as I don't experience anything of the sort under CM10... I would love to just stay on CM10 but I have a variety of radio-based issues with that that make this not an acceptable avenue (sadly).
Any help/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Those are all definitely Sense related problems and its from problems like yours that I switched to CM10. Can you go into further depth with your radio problem?
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Those are all definitely Sense related problems and its from problems like yours that I switched to CM10. Can you go into further depth with your radio problem?
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I tried the latest stable available from CM, as well as Deck's latest CM10 and have been experiencing the following symptoms that, unfortunately, despite how AWESOME my phone feels on CM10 over Sense, they're a deal breaker for me.
GPS Issue: For some odd reason the phone has trouble holding onto a GPS lock. For me it is specifically glaring in Google Maps Navigation where I'm driving along fine with a lock on my position, then Navigation will zoom out with only very broad accuracy (assume via radio-location) and say the message to the effect of "Looking for GPS" for 10-15+ seconds, reacquires a lock, holds it for maybe 1-2 minutes, then rinses/repeats. I did try the Sense GPS fix for this to no avail.
Phone Issue: I've read a lot of people having LTE issues w/ this, but with no LTE avail in my area this is the least of my concerns. My problem is that it seems to sporadically lose CDMA connectivity or something...the network status indicator switches to this right-aligned right triangle Just like this one in the attached image labelled "Emergency Calls". This occurs even if I switch the network to CDMA only... Not a HUGE annoyance except for when I'm on a call, it gets immediately dropped and I look at my phone and that damn icon is showing for network status, though it comes back to service within about 5 seconds. I have tried flashing the updated radios from themikmik, though that didn't seem to pacify the problem.
So yeah, that's why I'm back on this damn bloated Sense If you have any suggestions on how to fix either of these I would be forever in your debt
Honestly, I've run Sense 90% of the time since I got mine the first day it was available without these issues... I know some people reported contact lag but I've never seen it and most sense roms claim to have a fix for it built in.
I'm on the lastest stock OTA rooted and I just sat like an idiot mashing the brightness button for 2 straight minutes with no lag, just smooth transitions in brightness. Even the switch animation worked smoothly the whole time. You may have too many apps installed, or one particular app causing it.
Edit: Maybe you already use this but if not, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700211
You might even have a bad wipe,
Edit #2: And now after mashing it a bunch more times I finally replicated it lol.. Hmmm, I guess I was wrong. But its really a hard to replicate bug unless your using your power widget to turn your phone into a strobe light.
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rubyknight said:
Honestly, I've run Sense 90% of the time since I got mine the first day it was available without these issues... I know some people reported contact lag but I've never seen it and most sense roms claim to have a fix for it built in.
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I know it isn't something everyone experiences; Though I'm more concerned with those who may have experienced, and have discovered a fix. I've tried virtually every Sense ROM in high consumption hoping this will go away including MeanROM, CleanROM DE 1.5 (was my favorite for a long time, but problem resurfaced there), Viper4G. This issue occurring in stock is what prompted me to try a custom rom to begin with.
rubyknight said:
I'm on the lastest stock OTA rooted and I just sat like an idiot mashing the brightness button for 2 straight minutes with no lag, just smooth transitions in brightness. Even the switch animation worked smoothly the whole time. You may have too many apps installed, or one particular app causing it.
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I'm on MeanROM 6.5, and just did the same thing you did successfully. It's an intermittent issue that doesn't occur most of the time... but when it DOES occur it is extremely annoying. I will try to see if I can determine if another app could be causing this, but if there is it is just another thing that makes me hate Sense... changing screen brightness and initiating a phone call should be some pretty low-level API calls that shouldn't be dependent on or affected by other running apps... supported by the fact that I have never experienced this issue on CM10 or any of the other AOSP-based roms despite having all the same apps running.
rubyknight said:
Edit: Maybe you already use this but if not, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700211
You might even have a bad wipe,
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Yeah, I user superwipe between every ROM install.
It's not a certain app in general. The main culprit is sense. That process/software causes the whole phone to be a lag machine regardless of what rom you have it on. Trust me I went through stock and viper4g(which I super wiped prior to installing) and still no prevail. HTC is going to have to fix sense BIG TIME to get rid of these lag issues.
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onlybob said:
It's not a certain app in general. The main culprit is sense. That process/software causes the whole phone to be a lag machine regardless of what rom you have it on. Trust me I went through stock and viper4g(which I super wiped prior to installing) and still no prevail. HTC is going to have to fix sense BIG TIME to get rid of these lag issues.
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Not sure what phone your using but on mine its running beautifully Meanrom is my favorite but I'm literally on stock right now with no lag... I can swipe through the fully loaded homescreens with no problems. Lag just isn't an issue... It's not the same as vanilla ics/jb but its definitely not laggy.
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rubyknight said:
Not sure what phone your using but on mine its running beautifully Meanrom is my favorite but I'm literally on stock right now with no lag... I can swipe through the fully loaded homescreens with no problems. Lag just isn't an issue... It's not the same as vanilla ics/jb but its definitely not laggy.
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I assume he's referring to the idea that people use their phones for more things than just swiping between home screens... compared to CM10, basic things like launching apps feels like driving down the street with cement in your trunk.
Ok your right its not laggy but there is literally no multitasking and some other processes like earbud remote controls literally takes half a minute for the phone to process. Sense is just bad for your phone.
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I assume he's referring to the idea that people use their phones for more things than just swiping between home screens... compared to CM10, basic things like launching apps feels like driving down the street with cement in your trunk.
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Absolutely, 100% spot on.
After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
draexo said:
Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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I have not had that issue yet. It is laggy. There is also an "out of focus/blur" screen when it transitions from screen to screen, or should I say, app to app. It appears intentional, like a transition between scenes in a movie, but there is no point to it. The phone used to just switch screens. Now there is a transitional screen. Like the "red loading bar" of old.
I am just very disappointed with LG. and the V series. I have had most of them starting with the V10.
Sometimes I long for the old times when if you did not like the OS, you rolled back to an older version or flashed someone else's ROM onto your phone.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Mine says 37% Battery consumed by Android System. that is insane.
BlackKnight23 said:
After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
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I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
draexo said:
I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
This is mine, looks how the screen times don't match.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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Which was why I went to LG a few years back.
Still, this is a major problem. My phone feels like a hot potato in my pocket and I am sure I will have to charge it in 5 or 6 hours.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
arman3986 said:
As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
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I can agree, hardware wise not entirely software. One has good things about software and the other has good things.
Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
I reached out to LG, they said to do a FDR (factory data reset) and if that did not resolve the issues to send the phone in for repair (since I am still under warrenty).
I'm on AT&T and updated to Android 11 earlier this week. It resulted in a black screen soft-brick. I could still see the touches (from dev mode) where fingers tapped the screen. And if I held down the Power button, I'd see the typical Power Down / Restart / Etc. options, and tapping on them would generate the appropriate responses. But in all other instances, it was just a black screen. I figured my HEAVY de-bloating of Android 10 when I first got the phone caused something to break.
So I went ahead and did a full factory restore using recovery/safe mode and set it up as a new phone, and haven't had any serious issues since. I went ahead and got almost everything (minus Fluid Navigation Gestures, RIP) working the way I wanted, and embarked on another HEAVY de-bloating process. Seems like I took things too far, because, upon my next reboot, I was in the exact same black screen soft-brick state I mentioned above.
Another factory reset. Another session of restoring my apps, launcher, settings, and customizations. This time, I just used Package Disabler Pro for LG from the Google Play Store to perform some more restrained bloatware disabling, and everything's been pretty great. For Android 10 and the first attempt at de-bloating Android 11, I was using ADB commands to "uninstall" dozens upon dozens of system apps. Battery life is not quite as good as it was with my heavily de-bloated Android 10 environment, but I didn't expect it to be, and I'm not going to risk messing this all up again.
My only complaint is that stock AOD (and Sidelight Notifications) don't seem to be working properly, no matter how I configure them in Settings. I'm not sure what's causing the issue, but I actually developed this problem just a few days BEFORE the AT&T OTA landed, and it's persisted through a full Android point upgrade and two factory resets, so I imagine there's a conflict somewhere. Maybe with Fluid Simulation - Trippy Stress Reliever (my live wallpaper app of choice), Energy Bar, or Nova Launcher. I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet, but since it predates the Android 11 OTA by a few days, there must be another cause.
I do miss Fluid Navigation Gestures, but I'm happy to report that the new Android 11 gestures are way better than Android 10's. Not quite as customized as I had FNG, but I've adapted. Until/unless someone figures out how to hide the navigation bar without root, LG's gestures it is, I guess.
I have a Verizon V60 and since the update the processor is pegged to 100% utilization after just a few minutes of listening to YouTube music. Nothing I do will drop the utilization down besides a reboot. Again, after a few minutes, same thing. That's what you guys are seeing. I did a factory reset thinking that might fix it. It didn't. I restored all of my apps, but not my data just to be sure that nothing weird was causing issues. Even after the restore, the CPU was pegged at 100%.
Long story short, the SW is bugged. So was 10 (voice commands broken with Maps in Incognito mode for example). I've wanted to switch to this phone as my daily for a while from my Galaxy S10, but LG keeps dropping the ball.
Regarding the Samsung, it has significantly more features and regular updates. There is no comparison, frankly. I only like the LG for the form factor, large battery, speed and head phone jack amp. Otherwise, the S10 is just a better phone. This reminds me why I stopped buying Motorola phones. Buggy updates with broken core functionality.
I bought a V50 based on the positive reviews, and I ultimately sold it due to bugs (Android Auto was an absolute mess). The V60 has been better, but still far from perfect. I find phone reviews absolutely worthless as those people seem to restrict their usage to social media and photography. When it comes to using it as an actual phone, silence.
Sorry for the long rant. I will give LG another month to see if they fix this issue. Otherwise, I'm selling this phone and will never buy another LG.
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Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
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Not on an LG V60, but I've got serious other issues I'm here about.
I don't usually post here, but gotten a ton of great info here over the years, including rooting a couple phones. Thank you to all who contribute.
Since the update I've found three of my favcorite apps, all paid for, afflicted with issues that range from a couple cosmetic glitches in AccuBattery, to one app that's completely unusable. I've done one factory reset since the update.
I have a support ticket opened for the worst one; Radio Paradise's streaming app, the beta version (only one of these in beta). After clearing its cache and data, then uninstalling, then restarting (power off/>10 seconds pause/on), then reinstalling, I can sometimes get a connection and start downloading music, streaming or caching. But just once. Then it won't reconnect to the streams at all.
The other one, Weather Underground's app, now won't even start. But the notification seems fine keeping time and temp on schedule. Try to start the app and it immediately shuts down.
All three of these apps, including the RP Betas, have been solid for a year (one attraction) and all run fine on an old V10 and V30 still on the wifi. Have for years.
If this gibes with anyone else's experiance I'd like to hear about it, I haven't found these kinds of complaints anywhere. My Spidey sense suggests a possible permissioning issue but I'm not sure.