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Hey all ... Not new to the rooted Android scene( have the Epic 4G Touch ) but just picked up my Transformer Prime today ... Man what a great device, especially with the dock.
So naturally after installing all my apps, I went straight to XDA to figure out how to root it Hopefully this is where I can get a little help. After doing some post reading it seems things are a bit different with the Prime Vs. my E4GT phone. I guess my questions below are what I'm left with:
1.) What exactly is the difference between "Unlocked" and rooted( I know what rooted is, but not unlocked.
2.) I found the thread below on how to root, but it says it doesn't work with 9.4.2.21 which is on the tablet now. What is the best way( Read safest way, I don't mind doing extra work for safety ) to get root / busybox installed? I found a stock .21 rooted / busybox ROM on the first page of the dev thread, would flashing this be the best way? How do I unlock to get ready to flash it?
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427125
I guess those are my only questions for now, unless someone wants to drop some tips that I may need to know. Really looking forward to getting this device all setup, thanks
unlocked means it unlocks the bootloader so you can flash custom roms/kernels/etc..Be warned though, unlocking your prime sends your serial number to Asus and your warranty will be voided. no way around it.
now for root on the latest .21, there is currently no regular method THST I know of here. Asus closed up the exploit on last update. The only way to get rooted ATM is to unlock your prime and flash a rooted rom or root packages. there's more details on that in the prime developement section. take a look in there. I'm not sure if someone has been working on a root exploit for latest update. you can check the various root. method threads in developement to see if any progress has been made.
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unlocked means it unlocks the bootloader so you can flash custom roms/kernels/etc..Be warned though, unlocking your prime sends your serial number to Asus and your warranty will be voided. no way around it.
now for root on the latest .21, there is currently no regular method THST I know of here. Asus closed up the exploit on last update. The only way to get rooted ATM is to unlock your prime and flash a rooted rom or root packages. there's more details on that in the prime developement section. take a look in there. I'm not sure if someone has been working on a root exploit for latest update. you can check the various root. method threads in developement to see if any progress has been made.
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Ok ... So I need to unlock it, and then ROMs say I need CWM, I guess I can install CWM without root? Then flash a rooted ROM... I'll look into that, but just want to make sure.
Also, I see that people are unlocking with "Asus Tool" is this an official Asus utility or something I'll find in the Dev forum? Saw that about the warranty also, thanks for letting me know, but I can't resist the temptation to unlock / root, so I'll go with it. Pre .21 did rooting require unlocking? Or was unlocking optional?
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yes it is an official Asus tool. It is under the utilities on the download page for the transformer prime software on the Asus global website. I would put a link but their global site is a bit buggy for me at the moment and isn't responding. yes Unlocking was optional prior to .21. However I wouldn't unlock it just yet. If I were you (I'm in the same situation) I would wait for someone to find an exploit. And yes you can install CWM without root. You have to unlock your prime then hook it up to your computer.
jlm123hi said:
yes it is an official Asus tool. It is under the utilities on the download page for the transformer prime software on the Asus global website. I would put a link but their global site is a bit buggy for me at the moment and isn't responding. yes Unlocking was optional prior to .21. However I wouldn't unlock it just yet. If I were you (I'm in the same situation) I would wait for someone to find an exploit. And yes you can install CWM without root. You have to unlock your prime then hook it up to your computer.
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Ok ... thanks, resisting the urge to root it is difficult, lol ... maybe I can just hold out a day or two and see if one comes out. How are the custom ROMs for this device? I know for the E4GT their really nice, speed up the device add functionality( CM9 ) are the ROMs for the Prime mature, or still a work in progress? Do most people here flash a custom ROM, or just root it? Learning more by the minute, haven't left the forums since I got home with the Prime, lol
You may want to look into a 3rd party warranty such as squaretrade. You can search and read about it here in the forum. I purchased one to provide a semblance of a back up warranty before I unlocked. Now running Virtuous Prime 9.4.2.21 v1 and couldn't be happier with the performance. Also looks like ASUS is currently validating an new rom update so something newer may be out any day. Good luck!
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You may want to look into a 3rd party warranty such as squaretrade. You can search and read about it here in the forum. I purchased one to provide a semblance of a back up warranty before I unlocked. Now running Virtuous Prime 9.4.2.21 v1 and couldn't be happier with the performance. Also looks like ASUS is currently validating an new rom update so something newer may be out any day. Good luck!
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Thanks for the tip, I'll def. check out SquareTrade, would be good to have a backup. Yea, was looking at VirtuousPrime as well as some of the others. So reading the instructions, I only need Root and CWM to install the ROM no unlocking needed correct( If an exploit is found for .21 to root without unlock ) and then once I install the ROM it'll come with root obviously so I wouldn't void my warranty. Is this assumption correct?
From what I understand, you will need to unlock to install CWM. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong here.
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From what I understand, you will need to unlock to install CWM. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong here.
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Yes. Although it is easier to install if you are both unlocked and rooted.
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Thanks for verifying that for me jdeoxys. I'm really glad I unlocked/rooted when I was on .15. Since the OP is on .21, he will have to work a bit harder, but I still think its worth it if you don't mind giving up ASUS warranty. But then again, I haven't had one bit of problem with my tfp.
Thanks for the info all... I'm now officially unlocked, rooted and Roming with the Virtuous Prime ROM. Very happy so far, everything seems to be running fine. Stuck with a "stockish" custom ROM for now until I get used to the device, then I'll try CM9 or AOKP after some research.
Now, off to find a good Launcher( Apex or Nova maybe ) and other goodies
Nova launch ftw
I bought Nova Prime, and like it. But the release cycle on Apex is much faster, and seems to be ahead of Nova right now, using Apex currently on the tablet and my phone, liking that a lot.
BTW, what is "Corner Stone" AOKP it looks like it allows you to tile apps? Right now I'm using the basic AOKP, can you get that functionality without cornerstone, or is that what Corner Stone is specifically for?
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I bought Nova Prime, and like it. But the release cycle on Apex is much faster, and seems to be ahead of Nova right now, using Apex currently on the tablet and my phone, liking that a lot.
BTW, what is "Corner Stone" AOKP it looks like it allows you to tile apps? Right now I'm using the basic AOKP, can you get that functionality without cornerstone, or is that what Corner Stone is specifically for?
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cornerstone version is more of a true multitasking rom. its not just tiles, per se. the best way to see what it looks like in action is to look at the video he has in that thread. same person who ported AOKP to prime made that cornerstone version also. or even better, just flash the build and see how you like it. if you don't like, you can always flash back to something else
I've yet to unlock my prime but all these cool roms like AOKP, WSG, Virtuous, & Primalicious are very tempting. I always check out their threads though for once I do unlock, ill be up to speed. Leary of voiding my warranty just yet. I'LL eventually unlock but im in no rush. The roms will mature and be better once I cross that bridge.
Didn't you just recently unlock & flash? how are you liking it? which ones have you tried out so far? Usually to get a good feel for a rom you have to run it for at least a few days or a week or so. Team Eos nightlies looks interesting also. AOKP seems to be the most feature packed one though.
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cornerstone version is more of a true multitasking rom. its not just tiles, per se. the best way to see what it looks like in action is to look at the video he has in that thread. same person who ported AOKP to prime made that cornerstone version also. or even better, just flash the build and see how you like it. if you don't like, you can always flash back to something else
I've yet to unlock my prime but all these cool roms like AOKP, WSG, Virtuous, & Primalicious are very tempting. I always check out their threads though for once I do unlock, ill be up to speed. Leary of voiding my warranty just yet. I'LL eventually unlock but im in no rush. The roms will mature and be better once I cross that bridge.
Didn't you just recently unlock & flash? how are you liking it? which ones have you tried out so far? Usually to get a good feel for a rom you have to run it for at least a few days or a week or so. Team Eos nightlies looks interesting also. AOKP seems to be the most feature packed one though.
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Thanks for the info ... yep just bought the TFP yesterday, and unlocked and flashed Primalicious. Then flashed AOKP build 1.2 then 1.3 earlier today. So far I'm loving it, everything seems to be stable, but like you said usually takes a couple days of use before you really know.
Looked at cornerstone, looks great ... I'll probably end up flashing that when it gets the latest AOKP build ported over
Got it back 2 months later from rma status. I barely remember what this thing looks like. Wow can't even believe I have it after so long. So I'm on 21 it seems. Is this the latest?? If so, is 21 rootable? I'm at the point that I don't care anymore. I'll probably have less problems just doing a rom for gods sake.
.21 isn't rootable. either unlock it with the asus tool or roll back to .15.
welcome back, i know the feeling.
Thanks....ive been looking for a downgrade guide to 15, no luck. Dev section maybe?
i think the rollback thread is in the OG transformer threads
rollback= downgrade....
chugger93 said:
Thanks....ive been looking for a downgrade guide to 15, no luck. Dev section maybe?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626190
If you root and/or unlock...be sure to try jermaine151 AOKP. He left XDA so you won't find it here.
It's arguably the best custom ROM for our Primes....and the last few updates are super stable. Also, if you have ANY problem he will work with you as long as you need. He also has a Cornerstone build of AOKP too. (Check your PMs)
There's also a custom build prop that you can swap into your /system folder for better performance and battery life....YMMV. It's under Dev section.
Good luck and have fun....our Primes are STILL the top dog Android tabs. Next closest thing is the Transformer Pad 300, but that's just our lil brother
Any more questions just ask. I've done it all so far on the Prime and I'd be glad to help.
Thanks guys. Yah I thought I saw that link and I read through it. Step 2 I'm assuming would be me, but seems risky for bricking. Almost seems better to just unlock and call it a day and then hope that nothing else hardware related takes a dump.
Runnin the C3 model, so things are better at least.
So is it possible to downgrade,root,install recovery and flash a rom without unlocking?
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So is it possible to downgrade,root,install recovery and flash a rom without unlocking?
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Nope, you need to be unlocked to install a custom recovery and rom
Well I unlocked, and followed a particular guide here. Thanks to whomever wrote it, it worked great. Now running Virtuous. It was a breeze!
Hey TFP owners, I graduated on to the Infinity boards but I'll never forget this board.
We're in the same boat on the wait list for ASUS to rollout Android 4.1.
But someone on the Infinity board who posted getting JB for the Infinity before anyone else was soon found that there's a side method to how that user got JB on her Infinity tablet, and it's through the available JB firmware rom for the TF300.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870099&page=14
Poster MysticMgcn has found this out duplicated the OP's work of getting JB on the Infinity, though he reports that the JB is definity TF300 because the resolution is low (720p vs Infinity's 1080p).
That low resolution of the TF300 is the same resolution as the TF201 and it would probably suit you Prime owners better to ditch ICS and try out Jelly Bean as it's working on Infinitys, it should definitely work on the Prime which's hardware is near identical to the TF300.
So... kinda hard to understand, but I think he's saying someone got the TF300 version of JB to run on the Infinity and theoretically we should be able to the do the same thing on the Prime.
Has anyone been brave enough to try it?
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Hey TFP owners, I graduated on to the Infinity boards but I'll never forget this board.
We're in the same boat on the wait list for ASUS to rollout Android 4.1.
But someone on the Infinity board who posted getting JB for the Infinity before anyone else was soon found that there's a side method to how that user got JB on her Infinity tablet, and it's through the available JB firmware rom for the TF300.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870099&page=14
Poster MysticMgcn has found this out duplicated the OP's work of getting JB on the Infinity, though he reports that the JB is definity TF300 because the resolution is low (720p vs Infinity's 1080p).
That low resolution of the TF300 is the same resolution as the TF201 and it would probably suit you Prime owners better to ditch ICS and try out Jelly Bean as it's working on Infinitys, it should definitely work on the Prime which's hardware is near identical to the TF300.
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Not me
seeknom said:
So... kinda hard to understand, but I think he's saying someone got the TF300 version of JB to run on the Infinity and theoretically we should be able to the do the same thing on the Prime.
Has anyone been brave enough to try it?
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Nope. But if there is so little difference between devices that the ROM for one would actually run on the other, then the official update can't be far off. I'll just wait and see.
I would try it, but with seemingly no way of rolling back, I wouldn't want to risk bricking it or stopping myself from being able to update to the official version when it drops.
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I've had JB since as early as mid July. Devs are our friends.
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I've had JB since as early as mid July. Devs are our friends.
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Well yes, so have I, but I want the drivers that will come with the new kernel from Asus... and none of us have those yet.
It doesn't make sense to risk our hardware for this when the official drop is so close.
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Well yes, so have I, but I want the drivers that will come with the new kernel from Asus... and none of us have those yet.
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Actually the TF300 kernel has been out for a while(Yes that's the JB one). Don't think I saw anything noteworthy in there when diffed against mainline.
Neither is it the be-all end-all solution to anything.
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Actually the TF300 kernel has been out for a while(Yes that's the JB one). Don't think I saw anything noteworthy in there when diffed against mainline.
Neither is it the be-all end-all solution to anything.
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There's big differences between the 2.6 and 3.0 kernels though, and there might be some Prime specific stuff in the Prime version.
Still, I would try this, if I was confident my nvflash backups would save me in a brick situation!
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Still, I would try this, if I was confident my nvflash backups would save me in a brick situation!
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Me too. nvflash claims to make the Prime "unbrickable", but I'd want to make sure it's not like how the Titanic was "unsinkable"...
The TF300 is a regular IPS screen. We have an IPS+ screen. the TF700 thread speaks of brightness control problem with the TF300 JB rom. I would not attempt loading it if I were you.
Exactly what I was going to post, I don't think this rom will be exactly the same.
I'm still hoping that once we will get a unified architecture where u can install any os on. I mean ... all these tablets running on tegra3's, all these phones running on snapdragons, but still they need to make a special rom for each and everyone of them. Why no unified structure for socs? It would make everything a lot easyer for developers AND for us.
I guess they want us to look eagerly to every new iteration of hardware and feel like we have older hardware constantly. I still think my 'aging' desktop system is plenty fast and runs all games and new software superb even if it's not the newest hardware, I think that's NOT what they want
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Exactly what I was going to post, I don't think this rom will be exactly the same.
I'm still hoping that once we will get a unified architecture where u can install any os on. I mean ... all these tablets running on tegra3's, all these phones running on snapdragons, but still they need to make a special rom for each and everyone of them. Why no unified structure for socs? It would make everything a lot easyer for developers AND for us.
I guess they want us to look eagerly to every new iteration of hardware and feel like we have older hardware constantly. I still think my 'aging' desktop system is plenty fast and runs all games and new software superb even if it's not the newest hardware, I think that's NOT what they want
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Fact is if there was one type of hardware there would have never been any innovation after the kite with a key tied to the string.
Sounds like sideloading another rom, would still require tablet unlock. In that case, for prime owners, you're better off with something like Baked Black Bean or Androwook or something like that; these versions are pretty good, and the latest v3 preview of BBB is just about perfectly stable!
This method of installing the rom for another device sounds like it's just asking for problems.
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Sounds like sideloading another rom, would still require tablet unlock. In that case, for prime owners, you're better off with something like Baked Black Bean or Androwook or something like that; these versions are pretty good, and the latest v3 preview of BBB is just about perfectly stable!
This method of installing the rom for another device sounds like it's just asking for problems.
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But if nvflash actually makes it bulletproof, then no worries... (just don't know if that's really the case).
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But if nvflash actually makes it bulletproof, then no worries... (just don't know if that's really the case).
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Guess we are all about to find out, Sorry Fordwolden
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774352&page=40
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There's big differences between the 2.6 and 3.0 kernels though, and there might be some Prime specific stuff in the Prime version.
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There actually isn't *that* much difference between 2.6.39 and 3.0, 3.0 is really just 2.6.40. 3.1 however does bring more changes as expected from a major version bump.
how to thread created t700 forum.
anyone tried on Prime?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873635
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Guess we are all about to find out, Sorry Fordwolden
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774352&page=40
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how to thread created t700 forum.
anyone tried on Prime?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873635
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The post in my first quote makes it seem that forwolden tried it out and it didn't work. Now he's trying to recover his newly bricked prime with his nvflash backups it seems.
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I hate posting posts like this as should just try and see buuuut... Lately I've been using playing with my galaxy s 3 so my 16gig tablet has been just laying around... I'm using cm7 on it currently however noticing that it's only a 2.7 I think kernel/Os I've been pondering between cm9 or 10. Has either reached stability for daily driver use? Cm7 works for me but figure cm9 or 10 as it's made more so for tablets would be better. Any other suggestions? Primarily will use the tablet for the in between my phone to my laptop some games and Web browsing. Graphic acceleration would be nice as I remember that was an issue last I knew with the newer cms
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All the CM10 builds are solid. I went straight to CM10 from Stock, and haven't looked back (though I do miss the stock reader app.) Every other day a new build comes out, not all are the exactly the same, but they're all built on the same foundation, CM10. If you're already on CM7, just make the jump, it'll be fine.
I've used 2 of the cm10 5 point touch roms now , cherry picks and the 1.2ghz posted by Tonyp23 both run excellent on the existing old firmware I haven't updated that yet. Graphics issues with games have greatly improved with the newer 5 point roms. That had been my only reason for holding off on the change previously. The 1.2 ghz rom seems just a little more stable oddly.
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Firstly please don't post question threads in the Development forum as no question belongs there, it's for development only.
Unfortunately which ROM/best ROM/stable ROM threads are not allowed on the forum because they are very subjective and each individual has their own opinion what is stable or good to them and what's stable for one person may be unusable to another due to their needs. You'll just end up more confused then when you started.so we discourage these posts.
The best advice is to try them for yourself and then make an informed decision about what works best for you. If you don't wish to then you can simply read the ROM threads as there are already plenty of opinions within them and most have a useful changelog including what works and doesn't so you'll know in advance which has the features you want.
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Wow, I can't believe how long it's been since I've posted in this forum. I haven't kept up with my TF201 updates at all, now I'm overwhelmed by what is available.
On my current/old TF201 I have been running Hairybean v1.51 and have been loving the Prime ever since. Well I found a used Prime recently at a great cost and decided to pick it up. It is stock non-rooted C30K. I figured I would just jump into the Hairybean thread and download what I need, root and rom this biznatch and call it good. Then I saw all the new roms and forgot what I was doing. I'm like a virgin on my first trip to Bangkok with a fresh paycheck and no duty for a week. I don't know what to do or where to start, hence this thread.
Here is what I want to do or what I primarily do on my prime now:
surf the net
read books--do a lot of outside reading during the summer and the Super IPS is a must
stream movies from my NAS drive while at home
Been messing around with GPS lately, not sure if I'll use it in my boat or not.
That's really it. I mostly want it fast enough to stream my movies without buffering or stuttering a lot and keep the Super IPS.
Now the question is what ROM still has the Super IPS brightness that I need. I assume almost all of the roms have been tweaked enough for my steaming needs. Should I just load this one with HairyBean v1.51 since I know I like it, or should I delve into something newer.
Your thoughts a guidance are appreciated~
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Wow, I can't believe how long it's been since I've posted in this forum. I haven't kept up with my TF201 updates at all, now I'm overwhelmed by what is available.
On my current/old TF201 I have been running Hairybean v1.51 and have been loving the Prime ever since. Well I found a used Prime recently at a great cost and decided to pick it up. It is stock non-rooted C30K. I figured I would just jump into the Hairybean thread and download what I need, root and rom this biznatch and call it good. Then I saw all the new roms and forgot what I was doing. I'm like a virgin on my first trip to Bangkok with a fresh paycheck and no duty for a week. I don't know what to do or where to start, hence this thread.
Here is what I want to do or what I primarily do on my prime now:
surf the net
read books--do a lot of outside reading during the summer and the Super IPS is a must
stream movies from my NAS drive while at home
Been messing around with GPS lately, not sure if I'll use it in my boat or not.
That's really it. I mostly want it fast enough to stream my movies without buffering or stuttering a lot and keep the Super IPS.
Now the question is what ROM still has the Super IPS brightness that I need. I assume almost all of the roms have been tweaked enough for my steaming needs. Should I just load this one with HairyBean v1.51 since I know I like it, or should I delve into something newer.
Your thoughts a guidance are appreciated~
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There are lots of newer roms about that I haven't even tried but you definitely don't want Hairybean 1.51, that is a very old version.
If you are going to try Hairybean you want the 2.31 version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2407248
Once that is setup using the instructions in the thread you should be good to try most of the other new roms also as most of them are on the TF300 bootloader the same as Hairybean.
Try and find out what bootloader you are on now and make nvflash backups so that you can always get out of a brick if something goes wrong.
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There are lots of newer roms about that I haven't even tried but you definitely don't want Hairybean 1.51, that is a very old version.
If you are going to try Hairybean you want the 2.31 version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2407248
Once that is setup using the instructions in the thread you should be good to try most of the other new roms also as most of them are on the TF300 bootloader the same as Hairybean.
Try and find out what bootloader you are on now and make nvflash backups so that you can always get out of a brick if something goes wrong.
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thanks for the info. I guess I should have made my question, "Which version of Hairybean should I install?" v1.51 has been great and stable for me. I look forward to trying to figure out how to root and rom this thing again!
I'm on my way, but I have spent most of the day trying to figure out how to root now.
I have unlocked sucessfully, but that is as far as I can get. I have tried a few different root methods like sparky root and a few others.
Can someone point me in the right direction as to what I need to do and where I can find the info to get though my next step to make it to the newest version of HairyBean?
I appreciate your help.
Android Version 4.1.1
Build number - JRO0C3.US_epad-10.4.2.18-20121122
thanks for any help!
Uh...nervermind. Sometimes taking a break can help clear things up. I'm good. Unlocked and rooted. Next step is TWRP and HairyBean
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Uh...nervermind. Sometimes taking a break can help clear things up. I'm good. Unlocked and rooted. Next step is TWRP and HairyBean
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Why did you care to root, if you flash a custom ROM anyway?
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Why did you care to root, if you flash a custom ROM anyway?
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I don't have a great answer for this. I am not intimately familiar with flashing custom ROM's on this thing, I just dabble when needed. Also, I started way with the Viewsonic G-Tab in which I was pretty good at flashing, it's where I cut my teeth with flashing ROM's, so some habits may just die slowly I guess.
Anyway, I unlocked this new Prime I got and couldn't get CWM on it for some reason and I couldn't find much in the way of process or steps to take to get from bone stock to ROM. After searching around, reading multiple threads here and watching youtube vids, I went the route that I went. Unlock, root, install TWRP, ROM. The only thing I skipped was setting up NVFlash, though I may do that later. Then again, if this ROM is anything like v1.51 that I ran for years on my first (now hand-me-down to my daughter) prime, I may never have the need to upgrade this thing again.
I am up to learning though, did I take the wrong steps? Was there an easier way? It would be nice if someone "In the know" would post up a step-by-step how-to from bone stock to ROM flashing. Then again, it may already be there, buried in the forum somewhere.