Greetings,
I purchased a used 4g that was supposedly not rooted and it doesn't appear to be - Root Checker indicates that there is no root access. We're currently introducing MobileIron at work and it will not allow rooted phones access to our infrastructure. However, I'm having issues with the MI and the support desk indicates that the O/S has been compromised, of which I'm doubtful.
Is there any way to tell if the phone was previously routed and then returned to the stock ROM? This is the only explanation I have.
Any insights here would be welcome...
TIA
GG
Garageguy05 said:
Greetings,
I purchased a used 4g that was supposedly not rooted and it doesn't appear to be - Root Checker indicates that there is no root access. We're currently introducing MobileIron at work and it will not allow rooted phones access to our infrastructure. However, I'm having issues with the MI and the support desk indicates that the O/S has been compromised, of which I'm doubtful.
Is there any way to tell if the phone was previously routed and then returned to the stock ROM? This is the only explanation I have.
Any insights here would be welcome...
TIA
GG
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As a first check, reboot your phone to the bootloader and see if the pink banner across the top says UNLOCKED. It should not say RELOCKED or TAMPERED.
1) Set this option: Settings > Power > Fast boot = False
2) Shut down the phone
3) Holding the volume-down button, turn on the phone (continue holding volume-down until your reach the white bootloader screen)
4) Look for the pink banner at the top
5) You can exit the bootloader by navigating the menu with volume keys and using the power button to make a selection
Once you report the results of this, we can help you get your phone to a completely factory state.
Pink banner says LOCKED.
Assuming this means phone is still running the stock ROM and hasn't been tampered with.
Thoughts?
GG
mdmower said:
As a first check, reboot your phone to the bootloader and see if the pink banner across the top says UNLOCKED. It should not say RELOCKED or TAMPERED.
1) Set this option: Settings > Power > Fast boot = False
2) Shut down the phone
3) Holding the volume-down button, turn on the phone (continue holding volume-down until your reach the white bootloader screen)
4) Look for the pink banner at the top
5) You can exit the bootloader by navigating the menu with volume keys and using the power button to make a selection
Once you report the results of this, we can help you get your phone to a completely factory state.
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Garageguy05 said:
Pink banner says LOCKED.
Assuming this means phone is still running the stock ROM and hasn't been tampered with.
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This is a good sign that your phone really is stock (not guaranteed, but very likely). Under Settings > About phone, what is the version of Android and Sense reported?
HTC Sense 4.1
Software Number 2.17.605.2 710RD
Also, am attaching a grab of the bootloader screen.
Thanks,
GG
mdmower said:
This is a good sign that your phone really is stock (not guaranteed, but very likely). Under Settings > About phone, what is the version of Android and Sense reported?
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Garageguy05 said:
HTC Sense 4.1
Software Number 2.17.605.2 710RD
Also, am attaching a grab of the bootloader screen.
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Everything looks good and up-to-date. The only step I would take further to make sure everything is factory stock is to use the factory reset feature. Unfortunately, this will wipe all of your data and you'll have to start from scratch (the phone will automatically detect your activation, so you won't have to call Verizon or anything like that). If you want to try this: go to Settings > Storage > Factory data reset. Beyond this, there is nothing more you should have to do to convince your workplace that your phone is completely stock. This is likely a software bug on their end.
Inevitably, someone is going to reply below me suggesting to run the RUU. Your phone is already on the latest software and the factory reset feature actually performs more resets than the RUU alone does - it is unnecessary.
Thank you - I appreciate the insights.
GG
mdmower said:
Everything looks good and up-to-date. The only step I would take further to make sure everything is factory stock is to use the factory reset feature. Unfortunately, this will wipe all of your data and you'll have to start from scratch (the phone will automatically detect your activation, so you won't have to call Verizon or anything like that). If you want to try this: go to Settings > Storage > Factory data reset. Beyond this, there is nothing more you should have to do to convince your workplace that your phone is completely stock. This is likely a software bug on their end.
Inevitably, someone is going to reply below me suggesting to run the RUU. Your phone is already on the latest software and the factory reset feature actually performs more resets than the RUU alone does - it is unnecessary.
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mdmower said:
Everything looks good and up-to-date. The only step I would take further to make sure everything is factory stock is to use the factory reset feature. Unfortunately, this will wipe all of your data and you'll have to start from scratch (the phone will automatically detect your activation, so you won't have to call Verizon or anything like that). If you want to try this: go to Settings > Storage > Factory data reset. Beyond this, there is nothing more you should have to do to convince your workplace that your phone is completely stock. This is likely a software bug on their end.
Inevitably, someone is going to reply below me suggesting to run the RUU. Your phone is already on the latest software and the factory reset feature actually performs more resets than the RUU alone does - it is unnecessary.
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Try running the RUU. LOL. Just kidding. As mdmower said, there's no need.
While it is possible that an engineering hboot is installed and the phone is actually s-off and the information on the screen in your picture is spoofed, its quite unlikely. Even if it is, unless you have superuser installed, you're not rooted.
As a remote possibility, MobileIron might be able to detect if a custom recovery is installed. For grins, check to see if you have a custom recovery installed. Follow the same steps in mdmower's post. On the HBOOT screen, using the volume down/up button and navigate to the "RECOVERY" item,then press power to select.
If you see something like this, then you have stock recovery. If you see anything else, then its custom.
(disclaimer: Its been a long time since I have had a stock recovery, so I don't really remember what the Dinc4g stock recovery warning screen looks like)
Issue resolved!
So, it turns out that the Titanium Backup Pro that I had downloaded, but not activated or configured, was tripping up Mobile Iron. Evidently MI scans for programs requiring root, and if it finds one, it balks. I had simply grabbed TBP while reinstalling the apps on the Incredible 4 I had on my DINC2, and not had a chance to do anything with it. Not that I could have, as it requires root and the phone hasn't been rooted.
What a pain.
Thanks again for all the help -
GG
junkmail9 said:
Try running the RUU. LOL. Just kidding. As mdmower said, there's no need.
While it is possible that an engineering hboot is installed and the phone is actually s-off and the information on the screen in your picture is spoofed, its quite unlikely. Even if it is, unless you have superuser installed, you're not rooted.
As a remote possibility, MobileIron might be able to detect if a custom recovery is installed. For grins, check to see if you have a custom recovery installed. Follow the same steps in mdmower's post. On the HBOOT screen, using the volume down/up button and navigate to the "RECOVERY" item,then press power to select.
If you see something like this, then you have stock recovery. If you see anything else, then its custom.
(disclaimer: Its been a long time since I have had a stock recovery, so I don't really remember what the Dinc4g stock recovery warning screen looks like)
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Garageguy05 said:
So, it turns out that the Titanium Backup Pro that I had downloaded, but not activated or configured, was tripping up Mobile Iron. Evidently MI scans for programs requiring root, and if it finds one, it balks. I had simply grabbed TBP while reinstalling the apps on the Incredible 4 I had on my DINC2, and not had a chance to do anything with it. Not that I could have, as it requires root and the phone hasn't been rooted.
What a pain.
Thanks again for all the help -
GG
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IMHO, that's a stupid way to look for a rooted phone. There are several programs (e.g. ES File Explorer) that work great on a non-rooted phone, but have the capability to work with a rooted phone as well. If MI picks up on programs such as these, you can't use a great file explorer and must find something else? Bah. I really hope my company doesn't go that route. I suppose if they do, they'll have a much less productive and much harder to reach employee...
Just wanted to contribute my solution to this frustrating MobileIron experience.
On my non-rooted Nexus 5, I had "Root Explorer" installed, just as a file manager no root access, and as soon as I uninstalled it, the device became compliant and uncompromised.
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So, like everyone else, I rooted my phone and decided I dont need all this bloatware and other nonsense system apps.
I was foolish enough not to back up things I were removing, and nothing SEEMED important, but all of the sudden my "Htc dialer": Has stopped working.
My phone will turn on, but I cant turn it off, it just reboots without actually turning the phone off when I hold the power down.
I cant get it into recovery mode ( power vol up) and when it turns on, it goes to the default lock screen the phone comes with, and then I CANT see my home screen at all. The home button doesnt work either.
I cant get to my apps, I have to use my girlfriends DNA to beam whatever app im trying to get to onto my phone.
I can go to settings, but cant factory reset.
I tried killing the battery to get power it off, but then cant get to recovery screen there either.
I'm not sure if anyone has the system apps apk's just laying around so I can attempt to repair my phone, ( my girlfriend wont let me root her phone, but thatll be the next step if no one can help) but any insight as to what I can do would be appreciated.
Try fastboot flashing recovery and then dirty flashing the rom you were on before you started deleting things. This may help you keep your rom setup. If this doesn't work then go to the moonshine thread run the ruu and start from scratch.
xiastro1ix said:
So, like everyone else, I rooted my phone and decided I dont need all this bloatware and other nonsense system apps.
I was foolish enough not to back up things I were removing, and nothing SEEMED important, but all of the sudden my "Htc dialer": Has stopped working.
My phone will turn on, but I cant turn it off, it just reboots without actually turning the phone off when I hold the power down.
I cant get it into recovery mode ( power vol up) and when it turns on, it goes to the default lock screen the phone comes with, and then I CANT see my home screen at all. The home button doesnt work either.
I cant get to my apps, I have to use my girlfriends DNA to beam whatever app im trying to get to onto my phone.
I can go to settings, but cant factory reset.
I tried killing the battery to get power it off, but then cant get to recovery screen there either.
I'm not sure if anyone has the system apps apk's just laying around so I can attempt to repair my phone, ( my girlfriend wont let me root her phone, but thatll be the next step if no one can help) but any insight as to what I can do would be appreciated.
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Honestly I don't know where to begin with your post. Its all over the place. The phone turns off by holding the power button for 10 seconds and waiting for the capacitive buttons to stop flashing. If your phone turns on its really not possible for this NOT to work. Yes it will reboot this is normal, though once the lights stop blinking you can quickly hold volume down and power to access boot loader and power down fully from there. Recovery is accessed from bootloader too assuming you have one installed. A lot can be done from both bootloader and recovery to solve problems so finding out if you can access them is the first step. I don't understand your statement about the default lock screen showing and you can't see your home screen. Which ROM is it? Which lock screen are you referring to? Why can't you simply unlock the phone? What is stopping you from doing that? Your home button doesn't work and you can't get to your apps...meaning? You can't access the app drawer? I thought you couldn't unlock the device there is conflicting info there. I don't see how you are beaming tasks one at a time through this painful process but I would just avoid that until you've fixed the problem. You can access settings but no factory reset, why? What can you do from settings? And finally you are asking for some apk's "just lying around".....dude your issues seem severe, obviously you are inhibited from using your phone right now but someone giving you some apps won't solve your problem in fact it would probably make it worse. Get into recovery perform a full wipe and flash a different ROM. Also don't mess with deleting apps if your not sure it might screw up your system.
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Honestly I don't know where to begin with your post. Its all over the place. The phone turns off by holding the power button for 10 seconds and waiting for the capacitive buttons to stop flashing. If your phone turns on its really not possible for this NOT to work. Yes it will reboot this is normal, though once the lights stop blinking you can quickly hold volume down and power to access boot loader and power down fully from there. Recovery is accessed from bootloader too assuming you have one installed. A lot can be done from both bootloader and recovery to solve problems so finding out if you can access them is the first step. I don't understand your statement about the default lock screen showing and you can't see your home screen. Which ROM is it? Which lock screen are you referring to? Why can't you simply unlock the phone? What is stopping you from doing that? Your home button doesn't work and you can't get to your apps...meaning? You can't access the app drawer? I thought you couldn't unlock the device there is conflicting info there. I don't see how you are beaming tasks one at a time through this painful process but I would just avoid that until you've fixed the problem. You can access settings but no factory reset, why? What can you do from settings? And finally you are asking for some apk's "just lying around".....dude your issues seem severe, obviously you are inhibited from using your phone right now but someone giving you some apps won't solve your problem in fact it would probably make it worse. Get into recovery perform a full wipe and flash a different ROM. Also don't mess with deleting apps if your not sure it might screw up your system.
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Alright let me try to be a little more descriptive.
So as for the lock screen, I can unlock the screen, but then I see a black screen, no home page/icons. I cant get into the app drawer, when i try to factory reset, it says "rebooting" for a few seconds, screen turns off, right back on to lock screen, sim card says preparing, and then i'm back to where i was, doesnt actually reset. As for the beaming, I can say, open system app remover or file viewer on my girlfriends phone, then beam it, and my phone will open the corresponding app. This is the only way I can get apps to open, since I can't get to drawer or go to home screen.
When I hold down the power button down, the buttons flash, I get a message saying " continue to hold for 3 seconds" it counts down to 1, and then nothing. I can hold it til my arm falls off, nothing at all happens when it hits 1, I also can't power the phone down. If i try to, the screen goes black, capactive buttons turn white, back to lock screen and phone does " preparing sim" and the network/wifi reconnect as if it was just rebooted.
I have the default rom the phone came with, I believe I have a bootloader, I used a guide from this site to perform my root. The folder I have contains distiller, dnashellroot.apk, boot_secure, busybox, su and superuser.apk
dude your issues seem severe, obviously you are inhibited from using your phone right now
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The weird part is, other then not being able to turn it off/get into drawer/see home screen, everything else works. If i get a text, i can drag down and select it and it opens. If i open gmail on my GF's phone and beam it, will open Gmail and function 100%. Same goes for any app we both have that I beam.
I just used my rooting method to force bootloader up, which worked, but when i hit recovery, im looking at a picture of a phone laying down with a orange triangle/exclamation point in the center of it.
xiastro1ix said:
The weird part is, other then not being able to turn it off/get into drawer/see home screen, everything else works. If i get a text, i can drag down and select it and it opens. If i open gmail on my GF's phone and beam it, will open Gmail and function 100%. Same goes for any app we both have that I beam.
I just used my rooting method to force bootloader up, which worked, but when i hit recovery, im looking at a picture of a phone laying down with a orange triangle/exclamation point in the center of it.
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Ok - fact of the matter is that you might want to try getting into recovery via the bootloader (vol down + power from off). If you can access the recovery module from there, you are then able to click advanced (using TWRP) then click sideload. You will then need to use ADB to sideload a new ROM onto the phone, then install via TWRP. Hopefully you might even still have the old .zip for the current ROM that you're using and just really need to get to recovery.
mushroomhead13xx said:
Ok - fact of the matter is that you might want to try getting into recovery via the bootloader (vol down + power from off). If you can access the recovery module from there, you are then able to click advanced (using TWRP) then click sideload. You will then need to use ADB to sideload a new ROM onto the phone, then install via TWRP. Hopefully you might even still have the old .zip for the current ROM that you're using and just really need to get to recovery.
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I can get into bootloader, i tried recovery, i get a verizon screen bootloader but just resets phone after a few minutes.
At my friends suggestion i just got TWIP installed and now i'm just waiting to see what she suggests next. I figured out thanks to my advance app killer I can get to the play store whenever i need to, and then open any apps i've installed through there. Stupid work around, but hey, it works lol.
xiastro1ix said:
I can get into bootloader, i tried recovery, i get a verizon screen bootloader but just resets phone after a few minutes.
At my friends suggestion i just got TWIP installed and now i'm just waiting to see what she suggests next. I figured out thanks to my advance app killer I can get to the play store whenever i need to, and then open any apps i've installed through there. Stupid workout, but hey, it works, lol.
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Well if you just got TWRP installed via fastboot or goo manager you should be pretty well set. Download a new ROM, reboot into recovery and install. I would suggest wiping the davik and cache - possibly even the system just to give you a fresh start.
mushroomhead13xx said:
Ok - fact of the matter is that you might want to try getting into recovery via the bootloader (vol down + power from off). If you can access the recovery module from there, you are then able to click advanced (using TWRP) then click sideload. You will then need to use ADB to sideload a new ROM onto the phone, then install via TWRP. Hopefully you might even still have the old .zip for the current ROM that you're using and just really need to get to recovery.
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mushroomhead13xx said:
Well if you just got TWRP installed via fastboot or goo manager you should be pretty well set. Download a new ROM, reboot into recovery and install. I would suggest wiping the davik and cache - possibly even the system just to give you a fresh start.
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So far Ive used goo to get twrp installed and now we are working on getting sense 5 working.
Appreciate all the input, might be getting somewhere finally lol.
xiastro1ix said:
So far Ive used goo to get twrp installed and now we are working on getting sense 5 working.
Appreciate all the input, might be getting somewhere finally lol.
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I highly suggest NOS M7 Sense 5 Build ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184706 ) - Absolutely stunning at how well it works. I just switched from that to the GPE port from NOS M7 as well. Good work on getting somewhere, I remember the days of IDK WHAT IM DOING OMG WHAT IS THE ADB ...FASTBOOT..... UGH WHATS WITH THIS VERIFICATION ERROR! lol
mushroomhead13xx said:
I highly suggest NOS M7 Sense 5 Build ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184706 ) - Absolutely stunning at how well it works. I just switched from that to the GPE port from NOS M7 as well. Good work on getting somewhere, I remember the days of IDK WHAT IM DOING OMG WHAT IS THE ADB ...FASTBOOT..... UGH WHATS WITH THIS VERIFICATION ERROR! lol
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[ROM] Sense 5 M7 Digital Dream ROM v2.1 7/30/13
Im actually all set, i got the phone up and working on this rom, and now im SAFELY using the list below to delete all the apps I dont want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34704106
This rom kicks ass, i cant believe i stayed with default rom all this time to begin with, turned a bad situation into a much better one
Love XDA so much, this sites a life saver. The first thing that came into mind when I bricked it was, Yep, time to hit XDA.
xiastro1ix said:
[ROM] Sense 5 M7 Digital Dream ROM v2.1 7/30/13
Im actually all set, i got the phone up and working on this rom, and now im SAFELY using the list below to delete all the apps I dont want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34704106
This rom kicks ass, i cant believe i stayed with default rom all this time to begin with, turned a bad situation into a much better one
Love XDA so much, this sites a life saver. The first thing that came into mind when I bricked it was, Yep, time to hit XDA.
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Absolutely! I first started out on XDA when I got my first android phone; MyTouch 3g (HTC Magic). I then took my tinkering to full fledged modding where I was charging to overclock, root and unlock phones. It used to be fairly profitable, now there's one click steps for everything. Glad you were able to figure it out instead of having to take it to someone! Good work!
I recently bought an S4 on eBay, and the phone activated and is working perfectly fine minus one thing: it won't update. The update downloads and starts to install, but about ten seconds into the install the "falling Android" logo appears, indicating that something went wrong. Upon reboot it tells me the software update was unsuccessful.
I don't know if the phone is currently or was previously rooted. Could this have something to do with the failed update? If so, how would I go about getting the phone back to stock? I have previous experience with rooting Android devices, but never anything in the Galaxy family. Also, because this is my girlfriend's phone, it doesn't need to be rooted, only upgraded.
If it has nothing to do with it being rooted, what's the problem here, and how do I fix it?
Sportsmaniac13 said:
I recently bought an S4 on eBay, and the phone activated and is working perfectly fine minus one thing: it won't update. The update downloads and starts to install, but about ten seconds into the install the "falling Android" logo appears, indicating that something went wrong. Upon reboot it tells me the software update was unsuccessful.
I don't know if the phone is currently or was previously rooted. Could this have something to do with the failed update? If so, how would I go about getting the phone back to stock? I have previous experience with rooting Android devices, but never anything in the Galaxy family. Also, because this is my girlfriend's phone, it doesn't need to be rooted, only upgraded.
If it has nothing to do with it being rooted, what's the problem here, and how do I fix it?
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If you know how to get into download mode, get there and tell me what it says in the upper right hand corner.
If it's been rooted and has a high flash count it might prevent the upgrade.
If there is a custom recovery installed it would prevent it as well. You can check on that by turning the phone off then holding power and volume up until it says REBOOTING RECOVERY in blue letters at the top. Once it boots into recovery see if it's the stock recovery or a custom one.
Skipjacks said:
If you know how to get into download mode, get there and tell me what it says in the upper right hand corner.
If it's been rooted and has a high flash count it might prevent the upgrade.
If there is a custom recovery installed it would prevent it as well. You can check on that by turning the phone off then holding power and volume up until it says REBOOTING RECOVERY in blue letters at the top. Once it boots into recovery see if it's the stock recovery or a custom one.
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I'm not quite certain what you're referring to when you say "download mode". Do you mean just starting the download of the update?
As for the recovery, it looks stock to me. It's titled "Android system recovery <3e>".
Sportsmaniac13 said:
I'm not quite certain what you're referring to when you say "download mode". Do you mean just starting the download of the update?
As for the recovery, it looks stock to me. It's titled "Android system recovery <3e>".
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Power off again, hold power and volume DOWN this time until it says ENTERING DOWNLOAD (or something like that).
In the upper left corner there will be a bunch of tiny writing.
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Power off again, hold power and volume DOWN this time until it says ENTERING DOWNLOAD (or something like that).
In the upper left corner there will be a bunch of tiny writing.
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Okay, after doing that the top-left says this:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SCH-I545
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
CSB-OEM_CONFIG_LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
Also, I just emailed the guy I bought the phone from, and he informed that that it was indeed rooted, but he flashed it back to stock before selling the phone. He suggested to wipe the cache, but after trying that in recovery the error logo came up again.
Sportsmaniac13 said:
Okay, after doing that the top-left says this:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SCH-I545
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
CSB-OEM_CONFIG_LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
Also, I just emailed the guy I bought the phone from, and he informed that that it was indeed rooted, but he flashed it back to stock before selling the phone. He suggested to wipe the cache, but after trying that in recovery the error logo came up again.
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You have the Verizon version of the S4. This is a forum for the international version.
Version may have tweaked the software update to require you to do something else. I think you are best off asking this question in the Verizon S4 forum.
It's not that I don't want to help you, but without knowledge of what Verizon might have done I'm just shooting in the dark. The users on the Verizon forum might have an immediate answer for you as this might be a common problem with a simple fix for all I know.
Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/help
Skipjacks said:
You have the Verizon version of the S4. This is a forum for the international version.
Version may have tweaked the software update to require you to do something else. I think you are best off asking this question in the Verizon S4 forum.
It's not that I don't want to help you, but without knowledge of what Verizon might have done I'm just shooting in the dark. The users on the Verizon forum might have an immediate answer for you as this might be a common problem with a simple fix for all I know.
Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/help
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Okay. Thanks for the help anyways, I appreciate it.
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Okay. Thanks for the help anyways, I appreciate it.
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OK, you've been moved to the Verizon forum.
The OTA failing quickly as you describe usually means that one of the files that the OTA is trying to update has been modified.
What you should do is figure out what build your phone is running (Settings, More, About phone, then look at "Build number").
That will tell you what you need to flash to restore the phone to stock, hopefully with a no-wipe image.
Thanks for all your help guys. I finally solved the issue, so I figured I'd post how I did it in case anyone else runs into something similar.
I actually updated the phone through Verizon Software Upgrade Assistant. I'm assuming that through doing this I flashed the phone back to stock. Once this was over, the phone notified me of another update, and this time everything went smoothly. The phone is now completely stock and completely up-to-date.
So if anyone has a similar problem, give Verizon Software Upgrade Assistant a shot.
OK, I recognize I might catch some crap on this, since you guys don't know me from Adam, but it's a crappy situation. My friend passed this on to me, because he is stumped. His brother died in a car wreck on Christmas night, and found among his possessions in the car was this Venue 8320. It's set up with a pattern lock, and of course we can't get past it.Don't have access to the email, because the guy is dead. His father tossed the cell phone that might have been linked to the email, so we can't get in the email that way. So, I'm trying to figure out how to either bypass the pattern lock, or barring that, reset it so that it's at least usable.
I've loaded the Intel Android drivers on my computer, and can get an ADB shell, or access the fastboot when booted into Droidboot, but without root access I'm still pretty limited in what I can do. Is there any way in to this thing, or is my friend SOL?
Rasilon said:
OK, I recognize I might catch some crap on this, since you guys don't know me from Adam, but it's a crappy situation. My friend passed this on to me, because he is stumped. His brother died in a car wreck on Christmas night, and found among his possessions in the car was this Venue 8320. It's set up with a pattern lock, and of course we can't get past it.Don't have access to the email, because the guy is dead. His father tossed the cell phone that might have been linked to the email, so we can't get in the email that way. So, I'm trying to figure out how to either bypass the pattern lock, or barring that, reset it so that it's at least usable.
I've loaded the Intel Android drivers on my computer, and can get an ADB shell, or access the fastboot when booted into Droidboot, but without root access I'm still pretty limited in what I can do. Is there any way in to this thing, or is my friend SOL?
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factory reset clears all lock codes but also deletes all info.
power off, then power on while holding voume down button
you should select the option called recovery, on the recovery screen you should c da droid on his back when you are there press and hold power button and voolume up button for 2 or so seconds and you should enter recovery mode
chairsz said:
factory reset clears all lock codes but also deletes all info.
power off, then power on while holding voume down button
you should select the option called recovery, on the recovery screen you should c da droid on his back when you are there press and hold power button and voolume up button for 2 or so seconds and you should enter recovery mode
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Hmm. When I go to Recovery, all I get is a picture of an android on it's side with a repair hatch open. There does not appear to be any way to do a reset from there, at least not that I can see.
I've been trying to root it, but SuperOneClick isn't working. I tried pushing the various included files manually and executing them, but they won't execute - the error message is "not executable: magic 7F45". I tracked down x86 versions of su, busybox, etc. and they will execute, so it looks like all I need now is an x86 binary for rageagainstthecage/psneuter/zergRush. Does anybody know where I would track one down? I haven't had any luck finding one so far.
When at then android hatch picture you can press power then vol+ same time, let go and u will have more options. Good luck.
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Hmm. When I go to Recovery, all I get is a picture of an android on it's side with a repair hatch open. There does not appear to be any way to do a reset from there, at least not that I can see.
I've been trying to root it, but SuperOneClick isn't working. I tried pushing the various included files manually and executing them, but they won't execute - the error message is "not executable: magic 7F45". I tracked down x86 versions of su, busybox, etc. and they will execute, so it looks like all I need now is an x86 binary for rageagainstthecage/psneuter/zergRush. Does anybody know where I would track one down? I haven't had any luck finding one so far.
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there is a working method of rooting this tab is for the 4.2.2 version ( some 4.2.2's are not really working with root but others are) and if your tabby is the 4.3 update then that method to root exists somewhat but the creator of that method isnt releasing it till he deems its ready. so just look in this forum somewhere you'll find you root method if your on 4.2.2
also to enter recovery when at the droid on his back screen press and hold the volume up and power button simultaneously
there you can wipe stuff.
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there is a working method of rooting this tab is for the 4.2.2 version ( some 4.2.2's are not really working with root but others are) and if your tabby is the 4.3 update then that method to root exists somewhat but the creator of that method isnt releasing it till he deems its ready. so just look in this forum somewhere you'll find you root method if your on 4.2.2
also to enter recovery when at the droid on his back screen press and hold the volume up and power button simultaneously
there you can wipe stuff.
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Yeah, thanks. I don't think it's 4.3, because it hasn't been on a network since 12/25, although perhaps that's why I haven't been able to root it. Kernel version is 3.4.34, which I see has been reported as present in a patched 4.2.2 version that is not vulnerable to standard 4.2.2 exploits. I guess that's what I haven't been able to get in. I'll tell my friend that he can either wait for a 4.3 root exploit to be released, or wipe it clean.
Thanks for the help chairsz.
I picked up this device from walmart for $29.99 with the intentions of learning some new development stuff.I
thought for 30 bucks there's gonna be a lot of these little "duallies" running around why not a cheap candidate?
So far as i can tell there is little info found about this device so I'm looking to collect what little is known about
it in one place in hopes to get a jump on it. First things first, I am responsible for my own actions as you are yours.
If your not sure ask or simply dont do, some of this stuff can brick your device!
*ROOT*
These are the instructions I followed to root.
http://www.androidarea51.com/all-things-root/working-root-for-lg-optimus-fuel-woot/
dont forget to install supersu
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en
and busybox afterwards!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
*RECOVERY*
Downloaded "TWRP Manager" from play store.
twrp settings, I enabled the sd card patch.
Install twrp\device name :l34c\version i instaled: openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.0-l34c.img
click install... wait... things will pop up..... things will go away... wait some more...
finally a dialogue that states sucess.
***ISSUES HAVE BEEN REPORTED OF LOSING RECOVERY OR THE ABILITY TO ENTER IT AFTER
A WIPE AS WELL AS PROBLEMS BACKING UP AND OR RESTORING.
I have "injected" twrp manager into the system using titanium backup (link2sd will work also). This seems to
prevent any issues I have read about previously mentioned. Also I have successfully preformed backups as
well as restores, both before and after wiping. I have not figured out how to enter twrp recovery upon boot
yet, so be careful of what you do!
*SAFE TO REMOVE APPS*
yet to come
I use "titanium backup" from the play store, still trimming.I can get it down to about 230MB
available "free" ram at the moment but not consistently.
Ok had an issue with a task manager improperly reporting free available ram... true availability was
around 150mb free. There are apps that have to be replaced when removed, for example a launcher
for a launcher but some do not. Again I'm still trimming and experimenting, right now my system rom
around 244mb free. Most every thing I have done has been on the phone its self without the need of a P.C.
*STOCK BACK UP*
Yet to come
Any candidates for a true stock rom? Ive hacked the crap out of this one so far without the need of a back up... i know tisk tisk tisk!
I'm going for a debloated deodexed stock rom, hopefully!
*DRIVERS*
The only ones I could find that actually work. The Verizon drivers mentioned for the g2, not surprising since it runs on vz towers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
*TETHERING*
using the android wifi tether 3.3beta2
https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
all settings untouched except
device profile
lg optimus 3d
device access does work as well as encryption
*XPOSED*
Does work, im using 2.6.1.
*DPI*
The app I'm using for safe keeping to test dpi settings
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oumugai.densityadjuster
200 not working
170 works
160 native
150 works
140 works
130 works
120 works (looks good)
110 works
Temporarily went back to native dpi for debloating purposes. Will revisit later.
After messing with DPI settings I'm having a"contacts has stopped working " when tapping on the phone app.
DPI set to 120 when I noticed. All dpi switches affect lg home launcher
so you will need another launcher.
ok so far thats what i got. whats the nexts step to a stock AOSP rom?
questions and/or constructive comments wecome
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I've got a few of these that are bootlooping. They show the LG logo, and then TracPhone Wireless splash screen infinitely in a loop.
Two questions.
1 - Is there any way to recover them? I'm hoping for some sort of a dev tool that I could flash a stock image or something (like Odin is for Samsung phones)
2- When these phones started bootlooping, I installed TWRP on the other Fuels that I have, thinking that I didn't want it to happen to them. My understanding of the TWRP that's installed from TWRP manager doesn't flash a modified boot image, so you can't enter TWRP from a powered off (or in my case, bootlooping) phone. Is that correct? I flashed a custom boot image from elsewhere that allows me to tap vol up at the LG logo to boot to TWRP. Any idea if this is enough of a safeguard to in the even of similar boot loops?
Any chance you know how to get it in diag mode? I need to connect it to DFS but can't without diag. Thanks for your help!
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I've got a few of these that are bootlooping. They show the LG logo, and then TracPhone Wireless splash screen infinitely in a loop.
Two questions.
1 - Is there any way to recover them? I'm hoping for some sort of a dev tool that I could flash a stock image or something (like Odin is for Samsung phones)
2- When these phones started bootlooping, I installed TWRP on the other Fuels that I have, thinking that I didn't want it to happen to them. My understanding of the TWRP that's installed from TWRP manager doesn't flash a modified boot image, so you can't enter TWRP from a powered off (or in my case, bootlooping) phone. Is that correct? I flashed a custom boot image from elsewhere that allows me to tap vol up at the LG logo to boot to TWRP. Any idea if this is enough of a safeguard to in the even of similar boot loops?
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My apologies for the delayed response. I have a lot going on in life.
As for recovering them, use the device you have closest to stock to make a backup. Do this before you attach your account or put any thing in to it after a "fresh wipe". To the best of my knowledge there isnt a tool like odin available, i could be wrong though. You can push a back up to the looping devices via adb. in order to do this you must have previously enabled usb debugging. The instructions are available on the web, i my self dont know how to do this. If you can establish an adb connection im sure you can command it to boot into twrp. For setup and testing use one of the devices that doesnt have a problem to establish adb. There is a little info on another thread i created about investigating the boot process the link is in my signature for the defy. Please be patient with me as i have two jobs and a single father, im not a hacker or developer. just a normal guy that is fascinated by my little robot willing to learn any thing. now that I know this thread is becoming active Ill monitor a little closer. Also if there is any thing i can help with ill be glad to do so. Im wanting to get a second fuel just for dev and learning purposes.
Recovery
Is there a way to access recovery on the lg fuel? I am stuck in a boot loop because I disabled the home screen service as well as other things that I did not pay attention to. I do not have a custom recovery installed.
I've never been able to boot to recovery by way of button press. Seems like there's a way to get into boot loader mode though. Just can't remember off the top of my head, I'm at work now and don't have the fuel with me. I'll see what I can figure out in a few hours when I get home. In the mean time you can try button combos upon boot to include the home button. If we can get ADB talking to it there's a chance I can send you copies of the files needed. Give me more details of what you have done just before the boot looping.
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I bought the optimus fuel a few months ago and i've been using it primarily for a music player/run keeping devices during my jogs. I turned off mobile data and i've noticed that i still see signal bars on the top notification area - does this mean that the radios are still on?
I was wondering if there was some way to completely disable the cellular radios so that i could conserve battery life inbetween days where I don't run?
Thanks!
This is a pretty cool app....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender
Airplane mode and then turn WiFi back on does the trick. "Radios off" = ton more juice
Has anyone found out anything else for this little phone? I have the LG Optimus Fuel. Had it for a few months now. I rooted it as soon as I got it and uninstalled a few system apps like the LG keyboard, the default SMS app and Chrome along with 2 or 3 other Google apps. It's still running fine.
I installed TWRP recovery and a custom boot image so I could boot into recovery by pressing the up volume button. Works great. I made a full system backup and saved it to my external SD card and saved it to my Debian laptop.
Right now I'm just looking for a custom ROM for this little phone but can't find one. I'd love to get Cyanogenmod on this phone but there are none. I'd port it myself but I'm not able to at the moment.
reemobeens19 said:
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*ROOT*
These are the instructions I followed to root.
http://www.androidarea51.com/all-things-root/working-root-for-lg-optimus-fuel-woot/
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I'll expand on the above link because no one can view all of the info in that thread w/o registering for that site [PITA].
Load towelroot (www.towelroot.com). Upon running towelroot, press "welcome to towelroot v3" 3-times (quickly). Change 1337 0 1 0 4 0 to 1337 0 0 0 4 0 (change only the ONE to a ZERO), click "make it ra1n" and you're rooted. :good:
This was verified on an L34C running Android 4.4, Kernel 3.4.0+, build KRT16S.L34CV10c, Sw ver L34CV10c.
YMMV; IANAL
My apologies for the inconvenience, I was unaware for the need to register.
What I would like to do with the L34C is find a ROM with all the phone functionality removed, and few to no Google Apps (let me just add the ones I need). I am not planning on using it as a phone (I still have my old Casio flip-phone, need nothing else). My intention was to experiment with creating a PalmPDA "replacement", something small to carry around for addresses, notes/memos, calendar (you know, the stuff you used to do on PalmOS), and in addition figure out how to do record-level synchronization **locally** (as in I don't need to send my data to some dirt-floor shack in Bangalore just to have it sent back to a device 2 feet away from my computer). Additionally, would line to use it as a basic portable media player. Essentially, trying to re-create the Palm LifeDrive on Android.
To my knowledge there are no roms available for this device. Your best bet in my opinion is to remove apps 1 by 1 after rooting. Google each and find out what the risk and severity of removing them are. I have donated my device to a less fortunate fellow employee. So as of now I'm unable to help with testing. This method is what I do for all of my devices until I'm finally happy with its performance and functionality. Think of Android as the swiss army knife of the computer world, you can do just about any thing with it, you just gotta figure out what tools are useful to you and the ones you can do with out, then you gotta ask Google witch ones Android can function with out. I hope you find what your looking for in the little robot, its a really neat world inside there!
I hate to bump an old thread but, I also don't it necessary to start a new one, at least not yet anyway but, I too am looking for a way to flash stock ROM. I have LG34Cs to use as a reference..
Where is the link to exposed framework at for this phone?
All official twrp 3 images are broken on official site. Last good working was 2.8.7.0.
Here is working twrp 3.1.1 if anyone interested:
Code:
mega.nz/#!I0lhAYAY!fRbQtQjYFI2kiJOD0FSEBPnBJm0JZxpiBaw52kyOfQE
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All official twrp 3 images are broken on official site. Last good working was 2.8.7.0.]
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What does broken mean in detail? Do I risk to brick my L34C when I flash official twrp 3 images?
Mac23 said:
What does broken mean in detail? Do I risk to brick my L34C when I flash official twrp 3 images?
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Broken as in doesn't boot into recovery. The phone will still boot into android, assuming you have a working system, and within android with root you can flash a working recovery image over a broken flash with the dd command on the twrp device info page (twrp.me/lg/lgoptimusfuel.html). So no real risk of brick, just possible inconvenience that might require a battery pull.
I built twrp 3.2.1 with same sources but I have not tested it since my battery seems to have completely died and the phone won't boot with usb power alone.
Here is link anyway in case anyone is interested:
Code:
mega.nz/#!ssExSY7S!_B3FcAmclzRwCKTX461Tl_QhpdwwK0tmvhL-6zkKLRw
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I have a sumsung ace 3 gts7272 that has been infected with a virus called com.system.patch. here's what it does:
1- the first thing I noticed was that a white page pops up for like a second and it says com.system.patch
2- the second thing is very hard to not notice. a white noise page pops up every 10-30 seconds and the phone restarts and ANY CHANGES YOU DO BEFORE THE RESTART WILL BE GONE. YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
3- in settings>security>administrators you can see com.system.patch as administrator and android is not ticked, you can tick it but once the device restarts all is back to the way it was.
4- you cannot remove com.system.patch from app manager.
5- you cannot deactivate its authority as administrator.
6-you cannot factory reset it is deactivated. secret code does not work and using keys after it says factory reset done and it restarts everything is back to the way it was.
7- I removed the sd card and the background photos are still there.
8- I can connect it to the pc as storage device but nothing more than that.
9- I tried odin3.9 and it does the whole download process but after reset it goes back to the way it was and I can never get the PASS message.
10- I tried professionals who work for sumsung but after trying everything they just said you should change parts that would cost 3/4 of the phone's price which is not worth it.
I still don't wanna give up. Please help me get rid of this annoying virus.
maxapay said:
I have a sumsung ace 3 gts7272 that has been infected with a virus called com.system.patch. here's what it does:
1- the first thing I noticed was that a white page pops up for like a second and it says com.system.patch
2- the second thing is very hard to not notice. a white noise page pops up every 10-30 seconds and the phone restarts and ANY CHANGES YOU DO BEFORE THE RESTART WILL BE GONE. YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
3- in settings>security>administrators you can see com.system.patch as administrator and android is not ticked, you can tick it but once the device restarts all is back to the way it was.
4- you cannot remove com.system.patch from app manager.
5- you cannot deactivate its authority as administrator.
6-you cannot factory reset it is deactivated. secret code does not work and using keys after it says factory reset done and it restarts everything is back to the way it was.
7- I removed the sd card and the background photos are still there.
8- I can connect it to the pc as storage device but nothing more than that.
9- I tried odin3.9 and it does the whole download process but after reset it goes back to the way it was and I can never get the PASS message.
10- I tried professionals who work for sumsung but after trying everything they just said you should change parts that would cost 3/4 of the phone's price which is not worth it.
I still don't wanna give up. Please help me get rid of this annoying virus.
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As we discussed earlier, "com.system.patch" is not a virus, but rather an extremely stubborn and annoying form of adware. In most case, it can be simply deleted whether it has administrator privileges or not from a root-enabled file manager (Root Explorer?) or from a custom recovery with file manipulation capabilities (TWRP?). Is your device currently functional and rooted and if so have you tried to locate and delete the apk from a file manager (not the "Application Manager" in settings) or even a terminal prompt?
There is a forum dedicated to Ace 3 Development at http://forum.xda-developers.com/ace-3/development where I see several recoveries and ROMs that might be of interest to you. Don't give up yet!
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As we discussed earlier, "com.system.patch" is not a virus, but rather an extremely stubborn and annoying form of adware. In most case, it can be simply deleted whether it has administrator privileges or not from a root-enabled file manager (Root Explorer?) or from a custom recovery with file manipulation capabilities (TWRP?). Is your device currently functional and rooted and if so have you tried to locate and delete the apk from a file manager (not the "Application Manager" in settings) or even a terminal prompt?
There is a forum dedicated to Ace 3 Development at http://forum.xda-developers.com/ace-3/development where I see several recoveries and ROMs that might be of interest to you. Don't give up yet!
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I can't install anything. It restarts too soon. I have no time to do anything. There must be another way.
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I can't install anything. It restarts too soon. I have no time to do anything. There must be another way.
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Can you get into "Safe mode" (if applicable to your ROM) as suggested in the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090072? Do you have a custom recovery from which you could simply delete the apk or even reload a fresh copy of your ROM (or upgrade to a newer ROM)? The link I posted earlier seems to offer quite a few possibilities.
Mike B. said:
Can you get into "Safe mode" (if applicable to your ROM) as suggested in the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090072? Do you have a custom recovery from which you could simply delete the apk or even reload a fresh copy of your ROM (or upgrade to a newer ROM)? The link I posted earlier seems to offer quite a few possibilities.
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I can go into safe mode, however, the same problem exists there as well. it doesn't give me enough time to do anything it keeps restarting.
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I can go into safe mode, however, the same problem exists there as well. it doesn't give me enough time to do anything it keeps restarting.
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Then I guess a custom recovery or reflashing a ROM would be your best bet. Once again, good luck!
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Then I guess a custom recovery or reflashing a ROM would be your best bet. Once again, good luck!
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as I said in my post that did not work as well. It's like the phone is in freeze mode and everything goes back to the way it was.
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as I said in my post that did not work as well. It's like the phone is in freeze mode and everything goes back to the way it was.
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It's not clear from your posts whether you have a custom recovery, whether you can access your recovery (custom or stock), or whether you have tried to reflash a ROM. You mention "Odin" but not what you tried to use it for nor whether you tried other methods for replacing your ROM or at least /system since Odin is far from perfect (and actually useless on many platforms/devices).
I'm somewhat familiar with your phone model and it's a good little unit worth fighting for. Please understand that the more exact you are in describing your problem, the more likely it is that someone will be able to help you. Trust me, we're on your side!
Mike B. said:
It's not clear from your posts whether you have a custom recovery, whether you can access your recovery (custom or stock), or whether you have tried to reflash a ROM. You mention "Odin" but not what you tried to use it for nor whether you tried other methods for replacing your ROM or at least /system since Odin is far from perfect (and actually useless on many platforms/devices).
I'm somewhat familiar with your phone model and it's a good little unit worth fighting for. Please understand that the more exact you are in describing your problem, the more likely it is that someone will be able to help you. Trust me, we're on your side!
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I'm not a pro. I just learned all of this as I was trying to figure out a way for my problem. I put my phone in download mode and after installing all the necessary drivers Odin was able to recognize my phone and I downloaded a tar.md5 file (I'm not sure whether the file is good or not or at least can't make sure) and selected it as AP and except for auto-reboot and F.reset time. I left everything else unchecked. It started the process and after completion it resetted my phone and everything was back to the way it was. That's the only thing I've tried. Is there anything else I can do?
maxapay said:
I'm not a pro. I just learned all of this as I was trying to figure out a way for my problem. I put my phone in download mode and after installing all the necessary drivers Odin was able to recognize my phone and I downloaded a tar.md5 file (I'm not sure whether the file is good or not or at least can't make sure) and selected it as AP and except for auto-reboot and F.reset time. I left everything else unchecked. It started the process and after completion it resetted my phone and everything was back to the way it was. That's the only thing I've tried. Is there anything else I can do?
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I still don't know whether you have access to a recovery, which file from where you were attempting to load, or even which ROM you have/had. I have played with a device similar to yours in the past but no enough to make guesses about your particular situation, sorry. I'm afraid someone else will have to jump in and try to help you.