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Hello everyone. I was looking at the rooting instructions like damnnn. Lots of steps. I remember when i had the og EVO or my vibrant I could root it and download a custom rom just using my phone. It was just put zip on root of SD card, apply zip, use that ROM changer app to download/apply custom ROM. Bam done. Is the 3D ever going to be that or no?
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I didn't mean to say the rooting process is too much, its just not as simple as before.
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I love the steps..Makes me feel like im actually rooting the phone..Thats just me though,I enjoy the process.
I'm not sure exactly what the exploit is that gets s-off so its hard to say if there will ever be a 1 click method or easier way.My guess is someone will make an easier way of doing it in the future.
Yea Rooting the vibrant 3g was very simple I used z4root it only takes 2mins.. One phone that took me the longest to root was Mytouch 4g because there's alot of steps to do.
It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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I found it obscenely simple... Lol
My nook was a pain my nuts. The G1 was a ***** without the data Sim card, and the my touch 3g was almost as big of a pain. I'd root another Evo 3D in a heart beat. OG Evo was easier, but not by much.
My buddies fascinate is also a bit of a pain with versions of cwm having to match the rom, modem problems, and more.
E3D'ed... Booyah!
Well, i am not trying to be an asshole, but 1. I think we can't really complain about put a little bit of thinking to get what the devs put way more thinking and effort into. 2. It clearly states that it's a test beta release. maybe when it is actually finalized it will be easier to use.
No.. not too much at all.
I rooted a MyTouch Fender ... That was a process and a half. Required a Goldcard, flashing engineering hboot, flashing rom/kernel and then reflashing the retail hboot.
Hassle...
This.
Input serial
Run Revolutionary
Input serial...
Umm.... Oh yeah, that's all.
Are We Not Phones?
We Are D3VO!
Are we not phones?!
3.DeE.V.O.!!
Flonkas said:
It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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To be honest with you....As much of a hassle as you think it is, learning how to use ADB and the neccessary commands from the computer is truly in your best interest. There very well may come a time when you need those very commands to recovery your phone from a bad flash or simple mistake. A lot of people use the simple root method, jump in head first and get into some serious trouble without having the neccessary knowledge to fix said problems. Just something to think about.
rooting the evo 3d was beyond easy.
i feel the evo 4g took more to root. i didnt even feel like i was rooting a phone flashed a few zips and i was done..
anyone saying its difficult or was to many steps will be the first to get bootlooped and wonder why.
Too much? I thought is was pretty simple. Click the bat file & let it go. Then type Y or N to install CWM. Then reboot into recovery & flash Su. Pretty damn easy. No need for ADB unless you want to flash Twerp & now they have a PCM files you just place on root of SD & reboot into Bootloader to flash. You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
Wow...this root process was super easy...took less then 5min for me...
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#Winning# said:
This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
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No worries. I think I have been spoiled with super easy one click root methods so i never had to learn adb or any of that. Just remember not everyone on xda are mega proficient with computers, guess I got some researching to do.
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klbjr;16233680 You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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Those were a pain sometimes. It kept the riff raff out though. You had to be a pretty brave individual to go through that process, I think my brain exploded 3 times before I successfully rooted my hero.
The worst was I bought a g1 off ebay about a year ago, It was completely up to date and the bastard left his security lock on! We have no tmobile service here so I had to do all kinds of crazy ADB commands just to get past the gmail sign in because of having no sim card(back then you couldn't turn on wifi until you got past that point). Plus the whole rooting it too. What I'll do just to have buttons for my emulators.
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its just you
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Agreed. I didn't even have to use adb to get twrp..just a flash in recovery. Painless. I can't see it needing to be any easier. I am impressed with how well executed Revolutionary is.
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i thought it was very simple compared to the other 5 phones i have done, its funny usually when we first get s-off its a pretty hard process for noobs, but congrats to unrevoked and alpharev for completing this one, and making a nice zip to do it
For the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196131
Haven't tried it myself but here's a method without using ADB.
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.
Hey guys, just got my EVO today and I have a few questions.. to use this tool, must I use the root method in development which goes through HTCdev.com? If so, does this blacklist my phone at HTC automatically? If that is the case, whats the purpose of the tool? Also, if I do this and return my phone within 14 days will I be unable to return it because I went through the procedure?
I really want to try some custom ROMS, I love the phone stock but the inability for the browsers to keep pages loaded when you multitask is just killing me. This is my one and only complaint about this phone.
You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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Voiding ur HTC warrenty doesnt affect your sprint warrenty. There's been people swapping in there phones fully rooted before with sprint
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You don't need to be HTC Dev unlocked, run this first and then run LazyPanda and you should be fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Make sure you read through the entire s-off thread. I am not going to risk soft bricking my phone until they release a fix for why some people are getting stuck at a black screen in download mode. I assume their original script will be updated to prevent that from occurring in the future.
Just make sure you read up on it and accept the risk it comes with. People install drivers by all sorts of different methods (HTC Sync, through device manager, through a stand alone installer...etc) and I am guessing the way some people installed drivers is why the issues are happening since a couple different drivers need to be installed depending on which mode your phone is in and I wouldn't be surprised if the correct drivers don;t get installed if you use certain methods but I'm probably wrong.
The only reason I want s-off is because we can get rid of that red text now on boot up but I don't want to deal with unbricking if I am one of the unlucky people.
So I finally HAVE to replace my Note 2 via warranty. Power button sticks and will not boot.
At the end of the call to place the warranty order she says "any physical damage, water damage, or software alterations will result in a charge of $290". So I'm rooted and ROM'd and would normally just return to stock. BUT since the phone will not boot, I cannot do this. I realize if it won't boot for me it likely won't boot for Verizon.
My worry is that somehow they will in get it to boot. Do they still check for root? If so is this something I should be worried about? I cannot for the life of me get this thing to turn on it seems like I will not be able to return this to stock with out powering the phone on. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
I have done the warranty replacement game for a long time. Typical the people checking the phone are stupid and dump for checking for root. I havent spoken to or talked to one smart person that would check. Plus the people they hired to make sure the devices comes in probably isn't tech savvy. Just a worker trying to get paid.
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I agree with the above. I guarantee you the people who do the initial evaluation have a 'target' for the number of phones processed. But just the same return your phone to as stock looking as possible. Restore the launcher, use a stock wallpaper and/or boot-ani. Uninstall all apps you got from the store. And run your battery all the way down. It will continue to discharge even though it's off. This means it will need to charge for a few minutes before it will boot again.
And I've never noticed many posts (i can't recall even one) about phones being kicked back for being rooted/flashed.
But with that said isn't there some kind of flash 'counter' on the Note 2?
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When I had my DROID X I went into a Verizon store to upgrade to an s3 and the guy who just got done telling me how he "mods" his gnex looked at my X and it was running cm7 themed out the wazoo and he said how plain the stock os is on the Motorola. Haha. So I don't think that 98% of the people who are either in store or at the warranty place have a clue what rooted is let alone able to tell if it is or not.
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I think I read somewhere that you can make a powered usb jig the will boot it into download mode. I might be wrong, but you can search around for it.
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Did you even read the op
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Yea I can't even get the phone to boot. Which I believe is due to the malfunctioning power button. But I'm still concerned verizon will find some way to get it booted. I'm going to see if I can boot via ADB this evening. Its been quite a while since messing around with ADB so I need to allow myself some time. Hopefully I can boot it and just Odin the factory image via ADB.
I should also try and clear the flash counter right? Does anyone have any tips or know-how on how to do that? I saw somewhere that there is an app. But should that be run before or after running the Odin stock image?
Thanks again guys and gals.
Hey gerg, the app is triangle away, and I would always try to return to stock if possible. I would use it before returning to stock as it needs root privileges. What a great learning experience (better to look at it that way then get angry trying to accomplish your goal). Keep us posted as we are all"rooting" for you....:thumbup:
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Hey gerg, the app is triangle away, and I would always try to return to stock if possible. I would use it before returning to stock as it needs root privileges. What a great learning experience (better to look at it that way then get angry trying to accomplish your goal). Keep us posted as we are all"rooting" for you....:thumbup:
"One small step for man, One giant leap for mankind" said anyone who has tried Moon Rom
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Thanks man. Appreciate the positive vibes.
However it seems like I'm stuck. I can't for the life of me get this phone to boot, therefore I can restore the stock image via ADB, because ADB will not recognize the device since it is off. I've tried every trick out there, including the youtube video about pulling the charger and pulling/re-seating the battery as fast as possible. No dice.
I did however receive my warranty device today, and since I have ADB all set up and ready to go, I'll be rooting her and getting back to Trans-Neb ASAP, and of course I'll see you back in that thread.
Again, thanks for the help guys it is appreciated. I'm fairly sure I've tried harder and spent more time to get this phone to boot than Verizon will ( I hope at least). So if they can't get it to turn on, I don't see how they can tell its rooted
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I picked up an EVO 4G LTE and was going to see if I can get it set up so i can give it to my son as his first smart phone but I am unable to access the phone. The ring does not pull up to unlock the phone. I am not familiar with sense as I have been on the note until moving to the lg g2. This phone is on 4.1, 3.16.651.3 710RD. I cannot even get the unlock token for the bootloader. I have not met a phone that I have not been able to root, unlock and customize yet and THIS PHONE!!! I am looking for anyone who might know a trick because I have been searching through these forums and others(which i normally never do). Please let me know if there is a fix or if this phone is scrap. Thanks
Your screen issue sounds like a bad digitizer. As far as getting the unlock token, hit the top link in my sig and look at the links regarding how to root the device and make sure you're going through all the steps correctly.
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Thanks, I've went through the process multiple times. I will try again. The ring moves, just does not go all the way up. If the digitizer is bad then I may be it of luck. I had read on another forum where there was the same issue and that flashing a ROM had fixed the problem. I'll look it up but I don't think I'll be able to post the link
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Hi you can try doing a factory reset in boot loader to see if that does anything about the lockring not going all the way up if it doesn't its the digitizer acting up
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