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Is anyone else worried about the burn in problems like the original moled had? My vibrant had it bad... Please don't tell me its not an issue with the original sgs screens, type in google and you will see a lot of complaints on this topic, and my screen is burn in galore. Just wondering if this new screen will suffer from similar problems or if samsung recognized and corrected this issue?
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I have burn in on my nexus one right now. Status bar is burnt in, and the keyboard is burnt in. Yes the galaxy s2 will likely do it too.
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I have burn in on my nexus one right now. Status bar is burnt in, and the keyboard is burnt in. Yes the galaxy s2 will likely do it too.
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Wow, really? I got my Desire (AMOLED) for more than a year now and I can't notice anything.
Zero burn-in after a year's heavy use of my SGS1 - just leave the no activity timeout to 5 minutes or less and you'll be fine.
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Wow, really? I got my Desire (AMOLED) for more than a year now and I can't notice anything.
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I had burn in after the first month of my nexus. About all people have it, you just haven't noticed it yet.
I see two possibilities here. Some people notice it more, some people based on their usage suffer from it more. I got the N1 when it released for AT&T, dont remember when exactly that was, somewhat more than a year? I'm just now getting to where I notice some burn in but it seems slight to me, not an issue now. Dont know which way I fall in my first observation but I can say that given enough time I think that most people will notice some burn in, how much time, I dont know. I suppose the bottom line is how how much time you spend with a device and will you move on before you get to where burn in becomes an issue to you with your usage. Thats a tough question to answer.
Nine times out of ten burn in on a mobile would be from the status bar. So if you're worried just download and use Go Launcher and set the slide up gesture to hide and show it.
That's interesting people with lcd displays have burn in as well... Well my status bar is permanently there, half the icons on my desktop are also burnt in, had my vibrant since it first came out, its set to 30 sec timeout and auto bright. So do amoled displays just have it worse or is it about the same?
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Hello All;
First of all happy new year to all of you.
I have my SGS2 for two months coming from blackberry and even though the first week was hard I am happy with my choice.
The question: When I am on a white or clear screen I have noticed ghost images of the widgets that I have on my home screen. When I dock my phone to the pc I leave the screen always on and at 100% brightness. Could this be the cause of the ghost images, is it not good to leave it this way?
Is there a way to fix it or I need to replace my phone?
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First of all I don't think you should leave the screen brightness on 100% for too long, it drains battery and I guess it does wear out the screen itself a bit.
You should try clearing all your widgets and reboot it. See if the problem still persists.
You can also try using a different launcher and check if you have the same results...just to make sure if it is a hardware problem or not.
In the end don't worry as Samsung offers solid warranties on its products in case you need to take it to repairs.
Thanks for the replay. I just did what you proposed and the problem persist. For what I read there is no fix for a burn in, am I right...
The only fix is a screen replacement. But the screen itself already costs about quarter as much as the phone retail. xD
this is what we call burn in of an oled screen
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I got a Galaxy S (i9000) and I'm now considering upgrade to S3 or One X.
There are a lot of reasons for me to get S3 but what bug me most is the lifespan of SUPER AMOLED HD. My 1year+ i9000 got slight grey burn in all over the screen, looks like some stains on the glass and feel kinda dirty. It is visible at all brightness and even worst in low brightness. I really hate this as I would like to keep the phone for history/as a memento.
1) I think this question is quite obvious but I will like to ask anyway. Will S3 screen suffer from burn in? Will it be worst than i9000?
2) Should I care about burn in problem ? why yes and why no?
3) Will Super LCD2 suffer from burn in or any other degrade?
Thanks a lot to those who reply.
I think the best answer would be
it *COULD* get burn in, but with normal use it *SHOULDN'T*
Samsung have removed most features that keep the screen on for too long (except smart stay.. but that is smart).
e.g. no "night clock" mode
My SGS2 got bun in 10 months down the line, so there is a chance the SGS3 could also.
HOX won't as LCD is a different tech.
Wouldn't intend to use one as a night clock, but I'm wondering if using an S3 as an in-car sat-nav is the best idea for this model - screen often on a quite high brightnesses for hours at a time... ?
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Wouldn't intend to use one as a night clock, but I'm wondering if using an S3 as an in-car sat-nav is the best idea for this model - screen often on a quite high brightnesses for hours at a time... ?
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If the image refreshes or changes often enough it will reduce the chances. Would you use it as such every day? if not I wouldn't worry too much.
My 2 year old desire (amoled one) has a burn in of the top notification bar. I guess it's possible on the s3 too, as the notification bar is always visible.
On mine the burn in is visible only when some app uses the full screen with a light colour. And I think it just became noticeable recently, which means that the s3, using pretty much the same tech, would also last quite some time before this started.
Don't worry.
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I don't think I would keep Sgs3 for more than 2yrs. So the burn in issue shouldn't bother me
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1.) The S3 will most probably suffer burn in as well. I have seen heavy burn in on SGS1, SGS2, Note and GNex. It's very unlikely that the SGS3 will be safe from the issue. I don't think the burn in will be worse than the i9000, probably just the same.
2.) Yes, you should worry about burn in. Every time you enter a full-screen app, you'll always see those images burned into the screen. Thing is, the burn in will only get worse.
3.) SLCD2 will not have burn in. Sure it will degrade over time (years!), but the degradation is balanced - entire screen will fade, unlike Amoled screens that will degrade one spot (pixel) at a time.
Keep in mind that LCD technology is years ahead of LED. Plus, Samsung even admitted that their Amoled screens don't have a very long lifespan.
If you intend to keep your phone, go for the One X, or better yet, the Optimus 4X HD.
To avoid screen burns....as far as i know....try keeping ur screen brightness as low as possible ........
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My Galaxy S II has some burn-in for the status bar, which can be seen on blue backgrounds. There is also cloudy burn-in where the time is displayed in the bar. I always use maximum brightness.
Ways to minimise or prevent burn-in:
1) Set your screen time-out as low as is convenient for you (1 min with SmartStay should be fine)
2) For apps that have the option like PowerAmp and QuickPic, select NOT to display status bar.
3) If you really want to be sure, as the status bar is the most likely to burn-in since it's the only element that's consistently displayed use wallpapers that are dark or black where the status bar touches it so there's no edge.
4) In cases where the screen will be on for long periods of time while displaying certain elements consistently on screen, use a lower brightness.
5) And if you're really concerned, use a launcher such as Apex or Go Launcher EX that allows the option to hide the status bar.
But in the end, I would suggest not getting too hung up on it. By the time it could potentially become a problem such as on your original GS it should be fairly cheap to get a new replacement.
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My SGS2 got bun in 10 months down the line, so there is a chance the SGS3 could also.
HOX won't as LCD is a different tech.
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However SIII is capable of getting burn ins, meanwhile it wont be as fast as burn ins on SII, since SIII uses pentile matrix which means less blue subpixels which degrade much faster than green or red ones.....i own SI for year and half with blue theme since ICS release which means blue theme and there isnt much of degratation with normal usage....however screen doesnt look as it did when i bought it and im annoyed that statusbar region (which is black for most time ) has blue tint-well known to amoled screens......we can expect similar behavior oj galaxy SIII, but i think it will degrade slower because i think samsung is trying to improve lifespan od samoled
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I had an Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus before. They both had a 'temporarily screen burn', I fixed it by downloading 'Dead Pixel Fix', they flash different colours constantly, I left it for 30 minutes to 1 hour and my burn went. Although I can't guarantee this will fix all burns, it's worth a try if you do encounter it.
I hope Samsung finally have fixed this problem.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I hope Samsung finally have fixed this problem.
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The S3 use almost the same Display like the Nexus. I don't think so...
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I'm seeing a very slight burn-in on the status bar on some S3 display units already.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I'm seeing a very slight burn-in on the status bar on some S3 display units already.
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Shame. Unlikely this will make a good phone choice to use as a GPS in a car (on at full brightness much of the time with some static screen elements).
I hope it lasts for 2 years at least!
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I have status bar burn in!
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I'm seeing a very slight burn-in on the status bar on some S3 display units already.
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It has been 2 weeks since I got this phone and I am already starting to see burn in on the status bar on blue backgrounds!
My Galaxy Note is 3 months old and gas terrible status bar burn in as well!! What gives???:crying:
angelofmusic said:
It has been 2 weeks since I got this phone and I am already starting to see burn in on the status bar on blue backgrounds!
My Galaxy Note is 3 months old and gas terrible status bar burn in as well!! What gives???:crying:
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On the bright side, since your devices are new, you can still have them replaced.
Hello everyone,
As the title suggests I'm now another proud owner of the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge (SM-G925F) and immediately a few questions rose.
First of all, I unboxed my device and did the first power on. However, I noticed something weird. From the 1st power on it only had 3% battery ! Is this normal guys? From all of the unboxing videos I watched on YouTube all of them where 40% + after the 1st power on! Is it normal to be so low ?? So, I immediately shut it down and got it charging.
Second, after plugging it in to charge it started from 0%. Probably it even lost these 3% it had lol. Anyway, charging started nice and fast but I noticed another thing. The phone got really hot while charging! Is this normal again? The back was quite hot and the aluminum bezels on the sides as well (especially side lower parts). I know that this device has fast charging so it may be this and also maybe that it started charging from too low , 0% .
(UPDATE: now that it is at 99% it's has really cooled down)
My 3rd question is probably a foolish one but forgive me please. :silly: When I got it out of the box, since I'm a crazy perfectionist, I started examining the body of this jewel with a really bright torch light hahaha. Everything seemed flawless apart from a couple of tiny little marks on the lower left part of the home button. (not scratched some kind of marks like tiny glue residue maybe) They didn't get away after wiping them, even with little water on a cloth. Also, they are not really visible. Maybe they are a bit in really bright conditions but still you should look for them to see them. So, are these kind of tiny imperfections normal too? I guess so, but just wanted to say hahahha.
One more. My heart rate sensor seem to have a little plastic protector applied on it. Am I right? I'm quite afraid to pull it so, is there a little membrane there? In camera, I'm not sure.
Thanks in advance and have fun happy owners!
When I got my first smartphone, the Motorola Droid Ultra on initial boot it had 1% battery, so battery being low on first boot is not unheard of. Yet you are right that it should have 40% on initial boot. The battery going to zero before going up again is something I have experienced as well. The phone getting hot is expected with how rapidly energy enters the battery. The last two I am unsure about. If you can remove the plastic do so
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When I got my first smartphone, the Motorola Droid Ultra on initial boot it had 1% battery, so battery being low on first boot is not unheard of. Yet you are right that it should have 40% on initial boot. The battery going to zero before going up again is something I have experienced as well. The phone getting hot is expected with how rapidly energy enters the battery. The last two I am unsure about. If you can remove the plastic do so
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Thanks for your quick response!
Alright, so yea the low 1st power-on battery seems normal. I also asked Samsung and they say it's normal since they don't set any specific charge amount from factory but they just use it as much as needed (for quality control, I assume).
About the heart rate sensor yea, I realized that it has a little protector film which can be removed.
Also, what I told about the little "marks" on home button let me explain. You can't actually see this normally. You have to have your home button fully clean and then point a bright torch to it and then look carefully on the bottom left part of it and you can see some tiny little "marks" but still can't see them at every angle. However, they are not scratches, it may just be some little debris or glue residue under the button surface, probably on the fingerprint scanner. (maybe during assembly) But again this is from a crazy perfectionist's eye! :laugh::laugh::laugh: You can't see it in normal use. I guess if you take many S6 Edges out of the box and start examining them with a powerful torch, mm by mm for sure you will find different kind of "imperfections" in any of those. This thing must be the same for every device. But I like doing it just to know if there's something there in the first place.
Also, about the warm up thing. I updated to Android 6 and performed a hard reset afterwards. Also I disabled fast-charging from the menu. (don't know if it's also disabled when you charge the phone fully shut down tho.) In normal use the temperature is fine. When charging tho (when shut down) it warms up quite a bit on rear and on side bezels. So, you S6 Edge does the same?
Thanks a lot.
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When I got my first smartphone, the Motorola Droid Ultra on initial boot it had 1% battery, so battery being low on first boot is not unheard of. Yet you are right that it should have 40% on initial boot. The battery going to zero before going up again is something I have experienced as well. The phone getting hot is expected with how rapidly energy enters the battery. The last two I am unsure about. If you can remove the plastic do so
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Also, 1 last question (detail style again).
When you start up the notification led lights dark blue and then lighter blue in sequences. So when it does that, I can tell that there is a little "2nd" led that lights up on the right side of the notification led and makes it brighter blue. My question is that, can you see that in yours? I ask this because in my Galaxy Alpha you can't tell where the "little leds" are but you just see a clean light changing colors. On S6 Edge though, you can tell that the notification led area must be somehow "splitted" so like there is "another little led" on the right side lighting up and changing the color. Is it the same to you?
Thanks
The low battery percentage you had in your phone is just normal.
The phone gets hot when it's being charged especially when it starts from a very low percentage. Do you imagine the amount of energy getting into your phone's battery? That's a lot.
Speaking of leds, mine has the same too.
Hope you have a great time with your phone!
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The low battery percentage you had in your phone is just normal.
The phone gets hot when it's being charged especially when it starts from a very low percentage. Do you imagine the amount of energy getting into your phone's battery? That's a lot.
Speaking of leds, mine has the same too.
Hope you have a great time with your phone!
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Thank you man. I noticed something else too though which worried me quite a lot. I will post it on another topic itself though so it can maybe be helpful for other owners too.
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Thank you man. I noticed something else too though which worried me quite a lot. I will post it on another topic itself though so it can maybe be helpful for other owners too.
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Okay.
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Screen burn is a problem on AMOLED Displays. After 9 months my S8 had significant burn in due mainly to gaming activities. I don't enable AOD and limit screen time on to 30 seconds. What other measures can be taken to help save the beautiful display on your S9 device?
Use lower screen brightness. I try to use 50% or less depending on environment and my GS7 didn't run into any issues with screen burn-in.
... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
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... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
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Burn is inevitable with AMOLED, but newer phones seem more susceptible to it. I never had LED burn problems until migrating to the S6. Also, white backgrounds such as on YouTube tend to be the most damaging, because white color is made using all RGB pixels at once.
My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Just don't use the phone at maximum brightness for prolonged period and you'll be good. Never had burn ins on my S4 and S7, at least not yet, screens are still perfect to this day. I rarely set the brightness above 50%.
None.
If it happens I'll return it and get a new one. I use the device as intended.
I set full immersive mode globally using adb, AOD is off, screen brightness on auto but kept below 50% as much as possible, screen timeout is set to 1 minute. I don't play games more than 10-15 mins usually and I try to move 100% of whatever is being displayed on the screen after 30 seconds to 1 minute (even if I have to turn the screen off and back on to accomplish that).
A bit much, I know. But I had a Galaxy S4 back in the day using the screen very moderately, and within 3 months it had terrible blue burn in from the status bar and icons on the home screen Im guessing...
Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
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Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
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I use my device as I see fit. Not taking much in preventative for burn. More towards batt life. I have never really burned any device. My wife's s5 had Facebook burned in pretty good. I used aod for several hours at night. But it's been great on every Sammy device I ever owned
Way out of proportion. I mean any static image can and will eventually burn to a oled. But I'm sure I'll have a new device before it ever gets as bad as a several year old s3 s4
Well, first thing I'm doing is NOT using a dark theme. (With totally black portions). I found that using such a theme will create uneven screen wear (burn in) , because there's portions of the screen that just wont be affected, like for example think the YouTube app's video portion.
Everything I can...
This is my third Samsung with AMOLED. The first was a Note 2. I started playing a geo-location game that needed to have the screen on to get credit for moving around. So it ran for hours each day. Annoyingly it has a bright green box in the upper right (it's a button you use all the time), and it got burned into my display within a few months. When I got my next phone (Note 4), I took every precaution. I ran an app every night, all night long that cycles through all the colors, full screen, to aid in preventing it. I tried to mostly use my geo-location game at night with the screen brightness turned almost all the way down. It helped a lot. I went over 2 years before screen burn in started appearing. I think I made a mistake with the overnight app. I had the brightness turned way way down when perhaps I should have turned it up instead. I changed that and the burn in faded out for a few more months, but I would notice it whenever I used the game outside during the day (hiking and such), because I had to turn the brightness up to see the screen. Now it no longer fades and is every present on my screen. The phone is almost 3 years of use at this point though.
My last step I have been doing is using one-handed mode to change where that button shows up on the screen. I figure if I can prevent it from sitting in the same place all the time, it will go a long way to preventing the burn in.
Feedback from many different viewpoints is good. However it sounds like some people are saying 'screen burn in is no big deal. I've never had it'. Just because it hasn't been a problem for you, doesn't mean it's not real for other people or that's it's blown out of proportion. We all use our phones differently.
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My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Agreed.
It is what it is though.
Haven't turned it on once with my new phone.
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I think that for the typical phone user, the only place burn-in is likely to be a significant issue is on the status bar, and maybe the nav bar. The S9 is my first AMOLED phone with soft buttons instead of Samsung's capacitive buttons, but the only place I've ever noticed any burn in before is on the status bar, and really, who cares about that?
If, OTOH, you frequently keep the screen on for long periods using an app with fixed in place, high-contrast items, there's probably not a lot you can do beyond reducing screen brightness. If the app allows any customization of those items, like changing colors, try to make them less bright.
Well.. having owned a few devices with AMOLED/OLED displays(S2, S3, S6, S8+, S9+), all those devices had burn ins, some worse than others.
Since the S8+, I made a habit to not max out the brightness(I'd go 100% manual on all my previous devices before S8+), l left it on auto brightness, and if I figure that it had gone too bright, I'd move the slider back to 40~50%. And also hide the navigation bar. While web browsing, I hide the status bar too. Throughout the one year of using S8+, I'm happy with how it was holding up. And continued with these habits on my current S9+. Won't say that those are compromises to the experience, if anything it's even better, with hiding the navigation bar and status, it gives it more immersive experience while protecting the display.