After having my GSII for almost 2 years I am about to use my upgrade and get the S4. I have read many bad reviews about the lag and there is no easy/safe way around the bootloader. But this device has a lot of bloatware and I imagine once the kinks are all worked out, the S4 will be just as good as the S2 when it was released.
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After having my GSII for almost 2 years I am about to use my upgrade and get the S4. I have read many bad reviews about the lag and there is no easy/safe way around the bootloader. But this device has a lot of bloatware and I imagine once the kinks are all worked out, the S4 will be just as good as the S2 when it was released.
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So you opened a thread to tell us that?
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So you opened a thread to tell us that?
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Actually I started this thread because I wanted to know if its even worth getting the S4. I hadnt posted on here before but I thought I could get peoples opinion on it.
Well if this were the place to talk about a different device you'd be right. There's a general forum in the main xda site. That'd be the place. In a device specific forum isn't.
GraveDigger88 said:
After having my GSII for almost 2 years I am about to use my upgrade and get the S4. I have read many bad reviews about the lag and there is no easy/safe way around the bootloader. But this device has a lot of bloatware and I imagine once the kinks are all worked out, the S4 will be just as good as the S2 when it was released.
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I really don't believe the lagging issue. I've tried hand-on with the S4 at the local store and honestly I didn't see any lag. The device is a beauty. If I'm getting the S4, I wouldn't want to mess it up by rooting or installing custom on it just yet.
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I really don't believe the lagging issue. I've tried hand-on with the S4 at the local store and honestly I didn't see any lag. The device is a beauty. If I'm getting the S4, I wouldn't want to mess it up by rooting or installing custom on it just yet.
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Agreed, I would wait for custom ROMs to mature for a bit before switching.
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Agreed, I would wait for custom ROMs to mature for a bit before switching.
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That's what I'm doing with my One, solely for the fact that there's no ruu for stock yet. Otherwise I would.
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I switched to S4 last week and couldn't be happier. Zero lag out of the box. Used it stock for a day then rooted and froze the bloat with TiBu. Using nova launcher.
This thing flies. Looking forward to some custom roms when the bootloader is unlocked, which should be released in the next few weeks.
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I own a s2 owned the s3 and I spent 8 hours with the s4 before I retuned it. Good luck dude.
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I figure ill just wait a few months for the s5 ?
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I figure ill just wait a few months for the s5 ?
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Ditto. My contract is up in August and i would like to renew it with something better than just a tuned up s3.
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I figure ill just wait a few months for the s5 ?
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I'm waiting for the s6, it's going to be super awesome with a 3 gz processor, 3 GB of ram, 64 GB storage, 5000 mah battery, 4.99 in screen, Running android 6.0, and only 3.99 mm thick xD
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I'm waiting for the s6, it's going to be super awesome with a 3 gz processor, 3 GB of ram, 64 GB storage, 5000 mah battery, 4.99 in screen, Running android 6.0, and only 3.99 mm thick xD
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Lol!
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ROM - ShoStock v3.0
Kernel - AJK v1.48-S
Really, guys?
I'm waiting for HTC Two or even Three, which has retractable screen. LOL
I'm hoping someone besides LG makes the next Nexus. I figure we should get word this week, or soon anyway.
I just replaced my old i777 with a S4 this week.
The i777 was a great great phone. I will always appreciate its 18 months of solid service.
But the S4 is going to get AMAZING AOSP thanks to Google's help SOOOO time to move on.
Bye i777!!!!!
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I'm waiting for the s6, it's going to be super awesome with a 3 gz processor, 3 GB of ram, 64 GB storage, 5000 mah battery, 4.99 in screen, Running android 6.0, and only 3.99 mm thick xD
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Im waiting for the S7, as it will feature a hand that comes out of the bottom when you ask S-voice for a happy ending.
see the s4 active ..its nice ...
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I'm actually really hesitant to switch to the S4 or the HTC one. I've been reading up on their forums, and both phones seem to have their fair share of issues. Quality Control with the One in terms of gaps and dead pixels, but it's fairly durable and there's decent Dev support for it. The S4 is prone to cracked screens, and the locked bootloader is really killing any desire to get that phone. Whatever exploit was posted by djrbliss will be patched quickly, rendering it useless. Seems like I should just go with an S3 or a Note 2. I don't think I can spend around $700 on the stock Google S4 from the play store.
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I'm actually really hesitant to switch to the S4 or the HTC one. I've been reading up on their forums, and both phones seem to have their fair share of issues. Quality Control with the One in terms of gaps and dead pixels, but it's fairly durable and there's decent Dev support for it. The S4 is prone to cracked screens, and the locked bootloader is really killing any desire to get that phone. Whatever exploit was posted by djrbliss will be patched quickly, rendering it useless. Seems like I should just go with an S3 or a Note 2. I don't think I can spend around $700 on the stock Google S4 from the play store.
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I'm really enjoying my One I have to say
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/26/...et/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I WANT NOTE TO LEAK!!! cmon at&t!
Correct me if im wrong but I'm guessing that this leak will give the devs most of what they need to start cooking for the Note as well.
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Should be most of what they need. I think a big part would be getting all of the SPen integration right though.
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First the HTC vivid, and now the skyrocket, I say the att galaxy note is next up for ICS
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I was thinking the same thing when I saw that article.. The Skyrocket has pretty much the same hardware (except S-pen stuff) as the Note, doesn't it?
Hmmm -- so if the International G-Note gets ICS soon... could we marry to the two different roms to make an LTE Note ICS?
that would be pretty s1ck. Blaah i need to open a programming book.
s1mpd1ddy said:
Hmmm -- so if the International G-Note gets ICS soon... could we marry to the two different roms to make an LTE Note ICS?
that would be pretty s1ck. Blaah i need to open a programming book.
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International means nothing... But releasing it on there can let us know the timeframe. Devs could easily port the skyrocket ics over, but all pen functionality would probably be lost for now. Or, if the right codes are put in, ics is supposed to have the functionality already. If they can open that, then the pen would work like it does now. There would be no special apps however. The reason probably why the att note doesnt have a leak yet is because the apps donot work with ics, so they have to be ported (and with the rom features, like double tap with pen). Might as well try porting the skyrocket release, even though it may be useless very soon.
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International means nothing... But releasing it on there can let us know the timeframe. Devs could easily port the skyrocket ics over, but all pen functionality would probably be lost for now. Or, if the right codes are put in, ics is supposed to have the functionality already. If they can open that, then the pen would work like it does now. There would be no special apps however. The reason probably why the att note doesnt have a leak yet is because the apps donot work with ics, so they have to be ported (and with the rom features, like double tap with pen). Might as well try porting the skyrocket release, even though it may be useless very soon.
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It's not only about AT&T, there's alot of LTE Note in Canada too. ;-)
I think in some way we can take sime drivers from the international Note, think about it : the cameras, the screen, the s-pen are the same after all? Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a DEV at all.
No need.to.worry about.drivers....qualcomm release note ics drivers
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It's not only about AT&T, there's alot of LTE Note in Canada too. ;-)
I think in some way we can take sime drivers from the international Note, think about it : the cameras, the screen, the s-pen are the same after all? Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a DEV at all.
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When people refer to the AT&T Note, the refer to all North American Note's in general, they are all SGH-i717. Just happens that the majority of them are on AT&T. Any firmware/drivers/roms from the international Note are COMPLETELY (please re-read the last word) incompatible with the North American Note because the only hardware they share is the screen. These things are written and optimized for specific SOC's in which our Note and the international Note do not share.
Glad to see AT&T finally pull their SH$%@#t together and start updates in a timely fashion.
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Glad to see AT&T finally pull their SH$%@#t together and start updates in a timely fashion.
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pretty sure this was a leak not official so they really haven't
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pretty sure this was a leak not official so they really haven't
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Correct, it is a leak that was provided by rootzwiki. Just an odin flashable executable that flashes the whole system un-rooted. We have it rooted now and a sysdump but thats about as far as we've made it so far.
so are we gonna see devs hop on this rom anytime soon??
When theres a leak, the official should be on its way in no time.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ch-leak-facebook/&category=classic&postPage=1
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http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ch-leak-facebook/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Indeed looks tempting!
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Umm that's not ics. Thats gingerbread with go launcher running an ics theme. My phone below, notice the dots at the top below the status bar? Dead giveaway.
sent from my iPhone killers killer, Samsung Galaxy Note.
Not to mention the 4G icon doesnt look like the one on the note...possibly a rom flashed.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
why can't we use this to help us make ICS roms for our note? i thought that the note and this phone were identical internally!
My thread on ICS Optimized Applications
Here it is guys. The wait is over.
ROOTZWIKI:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/22134-sgh-i717uclc5-ice-cream-sandwich/
THE VERGE:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/3/2923810/official-att-samsung-galaxy-note-lte-android-4-rom-download
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Doesnt say anything about coming soon...
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Doesnt say anything about coming soon...
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Hence the question mark.
Ah wow exciting!
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That can easily be faked I'll believe it when I see it.
The guy has been releasing ics leak for att galaxy phones for over a week.now!!!
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Eric-1987 said:
That can easily be faked I'll believe it when I see it.
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Lol okay. Such a negative Nancy. This is the same guy that leaked ICS for the Skyrocket.
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The guy has been releasing ics leak for att galaxy phones for over a week.now!!!
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Indeed. Super exciting news!
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Lol okay. Such a negative Nancy. This is the same guy that leaked ICS for the Skyrocket.
Indeed. Super exciting news!
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I know but ICS this soon seems to good to be true. If its true f*ck yeah!
i dont see it being completely out of the question considering that we are the only galaxy s2 device on AT&T that didnt get a ICS leak.
In the photo why no kernel baseband and build version???
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In the photo why no kernel baseband and build version???
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Good question!
DesignGears is completely trustworthy. He was one of the main room devs on the captivate.
I can't wait!
He needs to release it already....
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In the photo why no kernel baseband and build version???
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my source asked me to omit that info just incase there was something incriminating in it.
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have some patients, it won't be out tonight, so don't stay up waiting.
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my source asked me to omit that info just incase there was something incriminating in it.
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have some patients, it won't be out tonight, so don't stay up waiting.
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glad to see you around design!!! looking fwd to new leak
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DesignGears is the guy behind several roms that were based on stock, going as far back as Cognition for the Captivate.
He is also, I believe the person who posted the stock recovery images for the Samsung Captivate and came up with the mechanism for recovering the Captivate to stock.
I ran his rom (Cognition) on my Samsung Captivate for at least a year, updating as he released new versions until he stopped development on Froyo and jumped to Gingerbread, around this time, Cyanogen began development and I used Cyanogen instead of Cognition because they supported the Froyo bootloaders, his rom did not after he went to Gingerbread (it required updating the bootloaders).
I even remember a short dialog where I pushed to use the Pacman script from Cyanogen in order to both make his rom download smaller but also so that users had more of a choice as to what apps they wanted on their phone.
DesignGears (DG for short) is one of the key developers that got the Captivate rom development off the ground. While Im sure someone else would have gotten around to it, he is the guy who kicked it off and figured it all out. Dont dis' the guy, if he has a Note and begins development, my hope is that we will start to see more development for the Note. At only three custom roms, all heavily based on stock, we have yet to really see this phone at its full potential.
love DG! Gave us the Froyo leak for the Cappy months early and now this!! I will be keeping a close eye on rootzwiki!
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DesignGears is the guy behind several roms that were based on stock, going as far back as Cognition for the Captivate.
He is also, I believe the person who posted the stock recovery images for the Samsung Captivate and came up with the mechanism for recovering the Captivate to stock.
I ran his rom (Cognition) on my Samsung Captivate for at least a year, updating as he released new versions until he stopped development on Froyo and jumped to Gingerbread, around this time, Cyanogen began development and I used Cyanogen instead of Cognition because they supported the Froyo bootloaders, his rom did not after he went to Gingerbread (it required updating the bootloaders).
I even remember a short dialog where I pushed to use the Pacman script from Cyanogen in order to both make his rom download smaller but also so that users had more of a choice as to what apps they wanted on their phone.
DesignGears (DG for short) is one of the key developers that got the Captivate rom development off the ground. While Im sure someone else would have gotten around to it, he is the guy who kicked it off and figured it all out. Dont dis' the guy, if he has a Note and begins development, my hope is that we will start to see more development for the Note. At only three custom roms, all heavily based on stock, we have yet to really see this phone at its full potential.
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wow, sounds like a wiki page about me
I don't have the Note, I do have access to one for $450 off contract, with google io coming I can't afford it atm.
Design gears! I always loved cognition and perception!
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Designgears for president!!!!
Google is coming out with 4.1 jelly bean and were still trying to unbunch our boxers/panties/whitey-tighties by getting 4.0 from at&t/Samsung. Annoyed!
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I lol'd :good:
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Fail. Thanks for trying though
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why does this suck other than getting to brag about having the latest software?
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We have ICS ....
We just need a kernel for OC/UV and we're still better than any factory bloat they push out.
Just my .02....g
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Fail. Thanks for trying though
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Awww you're only saying that cause he was poking fun at you. The video was pretty funny.
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If you want ICS root and flash a ROM
30-45 min and you will have ICS and whatever else you like
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why does this suck other than getting to brag about having the latest software?
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Cuz official release= source code=oc kernels.
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We have ICS ....
We just need a kernel for OC/UV and we're still better than any factory bloat they push out.
Just my .02....g
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Exactly. We need source code.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Awww you're only saying that cause he was poking fun at you. The video was pretty funny.
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If over acting, by a foreigner with broken English who's trying to Westernize himself and thinks that he's going to be the Internet sensation and rake in millions by running around with his handycam, your cup of tea, then yeah sure, haha.
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If you want ICS root and flash a ROM
30-45 min and you will have ICS and whatever else you like
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Minus kernels
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfvoFa4phO4
As has been stated, an official release is required for source code (at least, thats how Samsung does it).
Source code allows tweaking of the kernel for things like over clocking (which is probably the most OVERRATED functionality that tweaking the kernel will provide - case in point, give me a real world application where the Note isnt fast enough - its fine if you want to look at numbers but that is as useless to me as the Windows Experience Index - its a waste of time) and potentially correcting some of the issues this phone has (black crush and inaccurate stylus).
But, as is the usual case, the people that CANT seem to understand this will continue to make the usual 'just flash a custom rom and be done with it' statements. There are a few of us that are fine with the official rom. I think Samsung has done a decent job with Touchwiz and the software FROM SAMSUNG is actually good. Rooting and removing of the ATT crap however is something I have been considering.
I WILL say that a REAL version of Cyanogen would be great, Im just not interested in it until they have some source code for the kernel and can actually do a real build.
With the official release of ICS for the Galaxy S2 having come just yesterday, and the fact that it REQUIRES flashing via Kies (Samsung's version of Itunes), Im guessing the Note is only a week or two away.
littlewierdo said:
As has been stated, an official release is required for source code (at least, thats how Samsung does it).
Source code allows tweaking of the kernel for things like over clocking (which is probably the most OVERRATED functionality that tweaking the kernel will provide - case in point, give me a real world application where the Note isnt fast enough - its fine if you want to look at numbers but that is as useless to me as the Windows Experience Index - its a waste of time) and potentially correcting some of the issues this phone has (black crush and inaccurate stylus).
But, as is the usual case, the people that CANT seem to understand this will continue to make the usual 'just flash a custom rom and be done with it' statements. There are a few of us that are fine with the official rom. I think Samsung has done a decent job with Touchwiz and the software FROM SAMSUNG is actually good. Rooting and removing of the ATT crap however is something I have been considering.
I WILL say that a REAL version of Cyanogen would be great, Im just not interested in it until they have some source code for the kernel and can actually do a real build.
With the official release of ICS for the Galaxy S2 having come just yesterday, and the fact that it REQUIRES flashing via Kies (Samsung's version of Itunes), Im guessing the Note is only a week or two away.
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Thank you. These threads always have the same arc.............
littlewierdo said:
As has been stated, an official release is required for source code (at least, thats how Samsung does it).
Source code allows tweaking of the kernel for things like over clocking (which is probably the most OVERRATED functionality that tweaking the kernel will provide - case in point, give me a real world application where the Note isnt fast enough - its fine if you want to look at numbers but that is as useless to me as the Windows Experience Index - its a waste of time) and potentially correcting some of the issues this phone has (black crush and inaccurate stylus).
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I don't really care about OC too, but I definitely care about UV.
My 2 cents.
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Not even gonna bother watching it. Haha, sucks cuz you probably wasted so much time going through video after video trying to pick the right one out thinking everybody's gonna hand you a cookie for doing so haha
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littlewierdo said:
As has been stated, an official release is required for source code (at least, thats how Samsung does it).
Source code allows tweaking of the kernel for things like over clocking (which is probably the most OVERRATED functionality that tweaking the kernel will provide - case in point, give me a real world application where the Note isnt fast enough - its fine if you want to look at numbers but that is as useless to me as the Windows Experience Index - its a waste of time) and potentially correcting some of the issues this phone has (black crush and inaccurate stylus).
But, as is the usual case, the people that CANT seem to understand this will continue to make the usual 'just flash a custom rom and be done with it' statements. There are a few of us that are fine with the official rom. I think Samsung has done a decent job with Touchwiz and the software FROM SAMSUNG is actually good. Rooting and removing of the ATT crap however is something I have been considering.
I WILL say that a REAL version of Cyanogen would be great, Im just not interested in it until they have some source code for the kernel and can actually do a real build.
With the official release of ICS for the Galaxy S2 having come just yesterday, and the fact that it REQUIRES flashing via Kies (Samsung's version of Itunes), Im guessing the Note is only a week or two away.
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While everything you say it correctly, I feel like your post should be in the noob section. Dont you think?
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samic said:
I don't really care about OC too, but I definitely care about UV.
My 2 cents.
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oh yeah, uv too
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So its past November now we were supposed to get the Jellybean upgrade the firmware was even leaked so its confirmed to be official everyone was waiting for a final version and it now December 4 and nothing?
Kaldius said:
So its past November now we were supposed to get the Jellybean upgrade the firmware was even leaked so its confirmed to be official everyone was waiting for a final version and it now December 4 and nothing?
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Tell Samsung, not us.
TheATHEiST said:
Tell Samsung, not us.
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I would if I knew where they lived and give them a big kick in the butt!
Kaldius said:
I would if I knew where they lived and give them a big kick in the butt!
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Ok, keep looking for them.
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Kaldius said:
So its past November now we were supposed to get the Jellybean upgrade the firmware was even leaked so its confirmed to be official everyone was waiting for a final version and it now December 4 and nothing?
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Root and flash a custom rom.. Samsung is famous for slow updates..
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kilometers4 said:
Root and flash a custom rom.. Samsung is famous for slow updates..
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I don't like custom roms because they don't have all the features the official firmwares offer and the camera quality is lower I do lots of video and pictures with my phone.
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they don't have all the features the official firmwares offer and the camera quality is lower
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Custom ROMs have more features than stock, also you can use 3rd party camera apps, like Camera JB+, Camera360, whatever.
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I don't like custom roms because they don't have all the features the official firmwares offer and the camera quality is lower I do lots of video and pictures with my phone.
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If you're saying that, it probably means you haven't tried any..
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Kaldius said:
I don't like custom roms because they don't have all the features the official firmwares offer and the camera quality is lower I do lots of video and pictures with my phone.
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LMAO!!!
Dude you've either been smoking crack or you haven't actually tried ANY custom roms.
I agree with OP... custom roms are made by people just in their spare time etc. whos going to be able to make a better ROM, the dozens of professionals Samsung actually pay money to make the ROM or some spotty kid in his spare time? The answer is obvious... even CM isn't as good because it's just based on the work Google already did. And google's work is obviously better because it's made by professionals.
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I agree with OP... custom roms are made by people just in their spare time etc. whos going to be able to make a better ROM, the dozens of professionals Samsung actually pay money to make the ROM or some spotty kid in his spare time? The answer is obvious... even CM isn't as good because it's just based on the work Google already did. And google's work is obviously better because it's made by professionals.
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I don't agree with that. There are so many devs in here that are better than the paid devs. Sure there's some that have a rare bug or two bug at least they get fixed in a timely manner on here. Look at the 4.2 debacle by Google.. It took them a whole to fix all the issues with it, when devs here wouldn't release it with that many bugs..
Just my 2 cents
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LOL you think a random kid on XDA is going to be a better developer than someone who is PAID by samsung/google to write code for them? yea noooo. i dont have any custom ROMS because why would I choose to use something worse than I get from the start, only rooting is worth it every other custom ROM I have tried has had less features, worse performance and worse battery than stock... cant believe people still use them tbh.
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LOL you think a random kid on XDA is going to be a better developer than someone who is PAID by samsung/google to write code for them? yea noooo. i dont have any custom ROMS because why would I choose to use something worse than I get from the start, only rooting is worth it every other custom ROM I have tried has had less features, worse performance and worse battery than stock... cant believe people still use them tbh.
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Wow. How would you know what you're talking about if you don't try it. There's obviously going to be buggy ones, but when you find one that isn't you realize what you were missing. And yeah people here make better stuff than people getting PAID to make it... That's pretty sad if you're samsung..
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actually i've tried over 80 different custom roms and more kernels on my galaxy s II and none were better than stock... i used rootbox 3.0 for a day and the battery life was AWFUL. seriously know what youre talking about before you come on here and argue. sorry but samsung do what they are paid to do better than some random guy in his spare time. if it werent for samsung there wouldnt be an XDA so yea... think about that.
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actually i've tried over 80 different custom roms and more kernels on my galaxy s II and none were better than stock... i used rootbox 3.0 for a day and the battery life was AWFUL. seriously know what youre talking about before you come on here and argue. sorry but samsung do what they are paid to do better than some random guy in his spare time. if it werent for samsung there wouldnt be an XDA so yea... think about that.
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Wow. You tried it for ONE DAY.. No wonder your battery was awful. And if there was no samsung there would be xda... It's Google's code, not samsung....
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haha no. my battery was awful because of the ROM not because I use it for a day, i used samsung stock for a day and had great battery. erm well samsung galaxy s II is a SAMSUNG phone and so there would be no galaxy II forum.. and galaxy s II is by far the most popular forum so if there was no samsung there would be an XDA but XDA would just be way smaller. this site is basically dedicated to the s II anyway most other android phones suck tbh and google knows that, thats why they let other companies use android so they can benefit from their work... apple does all the work themselves and still makes better phones.
another pointless thread..... i had a poo and it almost ripped my ring appart. thats was way more useful information
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haha no. my battery was awful because of the ROM not because I use it for a day, i used samsung stock for a day and had great battery. erm well samsung galaxy s II is a SAMSUNG phone and so there would be no galaxy II forum.. and galaxy s II is by far the most popular forum so if there was no samsung there would be an XDA but XDA would just be way smaller. this site is basically dedicated to the s II anyway most other android phones suck tbh and google knows that, thats why they let other companies use android so they can benefit from their work... apple does all the work themselves and still makes better phones.
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Wow... Don't even know what to say.. You're saying that without the s2 android would be nothing is false and this site is definitely not dedicated to the s2. And last time I checked the nexus 4 (not an s2 or even made by samsung) is the most popular device.
And if you love apple so much, go get an icrap.
But judging by this thread and your previous posts, you are either a troll or very ill informed.. So I'm not going to argue with you any more
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kilometers4 said:
If you're saying that, it probably means you haven't tried any..
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Of course I've tried the CM9, CM10, AOKP and other such ones but the one Samsung offers has better support for the things I use my phone most for such as the camera especially, radio, video playback and all in all its just more stable the custom one's have the phone locking up or rebooting itself sometimes, reported by many users.
Those are the top things I can think of for me maybe your a different type user and these things don't matter for you. Also I like the little extra apps they add the Voice Recorder is really good.
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haha no. my battery was awful because of the ROM not because I use it for a day, i used samsung stock for a day and had great battery. erm well samsung galaxy s II is a SAMSUNG phone and so there would be no galaxy II forum.. and galaxy s II is by far the most popular forum so if there was no samsung there would be an XDA but XDA would just be way smaller. this site is basically dedicated to the s II anyway most other android phones suck tbh and google knows that, thats why they let other companies use android so they can benefit from their work... apple does all the work themselves and still makes better phones.
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I partially agree with your view, but in case of battery life my current rom CM9 stable is giving me the max life ever and phone's performance is way more higher , and yeah custom roms definitely have more features than stock roms, but custom roms which are not based on Samsung stock roms certainly lack important features like, Wifi direct, fm radio, fully capable H/W decoder (files like .avi are not supported), yeah I know Wifi direct is present in CM9 and yes we can connect but we can't send any files which makes it pointless, likewise there can be several problems in custom roms (even stable one's) which becomes evident when we use it for some time.
And also if battery life going haywire after installation of a custom roms is a common issue try wiping the battery stat file, or just charge the phone from low battery a couple of times.
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What do you think about the update 4.2.2 for S3 that is taking so much time? Is Samulsung making a big trouble for this fantastic smartphone?
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Tecn0 said:
What do you think about the update 4.2.2 for S3 that is taking so much time? Is Samulsung making a big trouble for this fantastic smartphone?
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Am sure it will be out soon..
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Well, if Samsung keep releasing updates for the old phones, nobody gonna buy S4 anymore
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Samsung is not going 4.2.2, they are going to go to 4.3 for the updates and will be announced in September. In the following months, 5.0 will follow. But as always, it's up to the carriers in the U.S to allow the updates to be pushed.
The carriers "demand" that changes are made. This is mostly because of their bloatware and cell technologies and how much the carrier wants to track their customers.
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Am sure it will be out soon..
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Yea you're right.. but i already have 4.2.2 GlamourS4 rom that it's fantastic rom.
I'm really unhappy for the updates to the Galaxy S3 stock. They're making only minors updates of 4.1.2 and i feel like the official update is gonna to never be released... probably when the official update rolles out i'll go back to stock firmware, but it's not sure....
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LOLZ i don't like the S4... it's so mich similar to the S3 lte and i think that the goodies that they've added are so stupid and pointless... bah
Yea it's faster, smoother... but the screen and the size are so f***ing similar!
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Yea you're right.. but i already have 4.2.2 GlamourS4 rom that it's fantastic rom.
I'm really unhappy for the updates to the Galaxy S3 stock. They're making only minors updates of 4.1.2 and i feel like the official update is gonna to never be released... probably when the official update rolles out i'll go back to stock firmware, but it's not sure....
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I agree many of their releases are minor especially since many tw features are gimmicks. They are also usually really slow and scanning an sdcard through my pc is extremely slow/buggy.
AOSP 4.3 roms out now and are stable, much faster, have better battery, and many more options less the tw features I personally don't use (although you may). Surprisingly, the regular camera is finally decent too. Every time I go back to stock I wonder why I did after a week.
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Tecn0 said:
LOLZ i don't like the S4... it's so mich similar to the S3 lte and i think that the goodies that they've added are so stupid and pointless... bah
Yea it's faster, smoother... but the screen and the size are so f***ing similar!
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Hmm...I love my S4. People who don't own the device complain about the so-called "pointless features and gimmicks". The people who actually own it aren't complaining.
Anyway, I agree with DonPuri above. As long as Samsung has a newer device out, the S4, I don't see any significant updates coming to the S3. It's all about money. It's not just Samsung that does that, all the smartphone companies do this.
If Samsung comes out with an S5, S4 won't see any real updates either. That's how it goes.
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Hmm...I love my S4. People who don't own the device complain about the so-called "pointless features and gimmicks". The people who actually own it aren't complaining.
Anyway, I agree with DonPuri above. As long as Samsung has a newer device out, the S4, I don't see any significant updates coming to the S3. It's all about money. It's not just Samsung that does that, all the smartphone companies do this.
If Samsung comes out with an S5, S4 won't see any real updates either. That's how it goes.
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You're loving your S4? Tell me, who goes on the streets doing weird moves with his head like a moron trying to use some of these really POINTLESS features? Did you ever tried to do something like that? Dude, if you do that, someone will say "Hey what the heek, r u okay?"
I'll buy an S5 but only if there are USELESS and WORKING features. See also for Android 5 KLP... the S5 will go out with it.
But i still thinking that Samsung is doing a big trouble... they've updated the S2 PLUS at 4.2.2! What the hell! ...
Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian and i don't want use any traductor cuz i want learn at the best this fantastic language
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JPuzzle0 said:
I agree many of their releases are minor especially since many tw features are gimmicks. They are also usually really slow and scanning an sdcard through my pc is extremely slow/buggy.
AOSP 4.3 roms out now and are stable, much faster, have better battery, and many more options less the tw features I personally don't use (although you may). Surprisingly, the regular camera is finally decent too. Every time I go back to stock I wonder why I did after a week.
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Yea mee too. I don't want turn back to stock cuz i think that roms are pretty faster and stable..
When i did the last minor update i was really ungry and i decided to install GlamourS4 that it's fantastic...
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JPuzzle0 said:
I agree many of their releases are minor especially since many tw features are gimmicks. They are also usually really slow and scanning an sdcard through my pc is extremely slow/buggy.
AOSP 4.3 roms out now and are stable, much faster, have better battery, and many more options less the tw features I personally don't use (although you may). Surprisingly, the regular camera is finally decent too. Every time I go back to stock I wonder why I did after a week.
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I don't trust AOSP 4.3 roms just yet. While they may be stablish, they are not quite the same "stable" you would expect of a stock ROM. Still, I am very much tempted and curious about the speed it offers. If that new update doesn't arrive soon, maybe I will try it out.
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You're loving your S4? Tell me, who goes on the streets doing weird moves with his head like a moron trying to use some of these really POINTLESS features? Did you ever tried to do something like that? Dude, if you do that, someone will say "Hey what the heek, r u okay?"
I'll buy an S5 but only if there are USELESS and WORKING features. See also for Android 5 KLP... the S5 will go out with it.
But i still thinking that Samsung is doing a big trouble... they've updated the S2 PLUS at 4.2.2! What the hell! ...
Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian and i don't want use any traductor cuz i want learn at the best this fantastic language
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Yeah, like I said, I'm loving my S4. You sound like someone stuck on a contract and can't upgrade your device. And what if the S5 has the same features or more than the the S4? I really didn't see the point of your post. All I see is a bunch of caps and other nonsense. But the what I said stands, S3 won't be getting any real updates. No need to bash my device because you don't like that fact. It's not my fault, blame Samsung. When manufacturers come out with a newer version of a device, they rarely upgrade the older version. If Samsung does upgrade your device, well good for you.
Not that it's relevant to you or anything but all so-called "pointless" features can be turned off on the S4. Besides that stuff, it really is a nice phone. Fancy features are nice but as a device for ordinary, everyday use, it works very well and in the end that's all that matters to me.
You're fine, the features can be disabled, but i mean what utily has a smartphone with a lot of features when you don't use them? If you don't use them it means that are pointless... i don't like the S4 not because i have a S3, but for the fact that i don't so much differences between this 2 smartphones. You have a S4? Good you have a lot of money to spent for a phone (no offense
For me the S3 still a very good phone for daily use... so...
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Is an carrier-official 4.2.2 not out for the S3 already? I thought at least att in the states had put out an update 1-2 months ago.
There is an official update to 4.2.2 for the S3, but it's only a leaked rom and it isn't very stable and smooth...
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