Does anyone know a time frame or when to expect the RUU for the One?
I asked the same thing in the main RUU thread, though it's not necessarily necessary with the stock nandroid / recovery floating around out there.
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Im no pro at this stuff by any means, but I have modded the heck out of 5 personal phones and numerous other devices for friends and co workers.
I see a lot of talk of radio's and RUU, are these the same thing? The names are so confusing to me at the moment. Im used to 4 digit Radio names that tend to work on every rom. It seems as if some of the roms are coming with their own modified radios ( RUU's? ) Just wondering if anyone could clarify some basic information on this whole deal.
Secondly it seems as if these RUU/Radio 's are flashed via stock recovery. How does one boot their TB into stock recovery and what are the controls once in stock recovery ( stock recovery and bootloader are the same thing, correct? )
How do I boot into CWR from a dead phone? If I should happen to soft brick my phone or something in the future, how do I get into CWR without being able to boot?
And lastly, can someone give me a brief explanation of what S-on and S-off are? I assume anyone thats rooted is running s-off, correct?
So far I'm rooted running the battery sipper Kernel and I don't really know what direction to take, just trying to do my research. Might wait for CM7 support to start flashing, as this phone really isn't that bad..
Thanks in advance!
I'm still pretty new to all of this, but this is what I've learned so far.
RUU and the radio are different. RUU has everything, the apps the firmware and radio in it. Basically what you need when you wipe your phone and go back to completely stock. Where as radio just updates your radio or baseband.
It's kind of confusing the terms that are thrown around. Some people call it Hboot some call it bootloader. To get into it, turn off your phone, hold Vol down and then the power button. Let go and you should boot into bootloader.
Having S-Off just means your phone is unlock. You're able to access files and folders that are normally locked from you. Which lets you flash roms etc.. S-on, those files/folders are locked.
RUU is short for ROM Upgrade Utility - it's an historical name, based on a utility used to upgrade older HTC phones. For HTC Android phones, the HUU files contain images which get flashed to the phone.
Bootloader is a generic term on Android phones - the HTC one is call Hboot.
Recovery is a separate app/partition, it can be started from Hboot. If you root, you'll probably install Clockworkmod Recovery, which lets you backup/restore the partitions. It should also prevent an OTA update from being installed.
S-On/S-Off refer to a security feature which prevents unsigned images from being flashed. Rooting should set S-Off, which lets you make changes.
Every time I boot into hboot it wants me to confirm an update after it performs an operation it did during the root process. Should I remove that file from my sd?
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If you have an PG05IMG.zip on your sdcard, remove it. You don't want to leave it laying around after it's been flashed.
mike.s said:
RUU is short for ROM Upgrade Utility - it's an historical name, based on a utility used to upgrade older HTC phones. For HTC Android phones, the HUU files contain images which get flashed to the phone.
Bootloader is a generic term on Android phones - the HTC one is call Hboot.
Recovery is a separate app/partition, it can be started from Hboot. If you root, you'll probably install Clockworkmod Recovery, which lets you backup/restore the partitions. It should also prevent an OTA update from being installed.
S-On/S-Off refer to a security feature which prevents unsigned images from being flashed. Rooting should set S-Off, which lets you make changes.
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I had a pretty good idea what these were, but great explanations. Thank You
mike.s said:
RUU is short for ROM Upgrade Utility - it's an historical name, based on a utility used to upgrade older HTC phones. For HTC Android phones, the HUU files contain images which get flashed to the phone.
Bootloader is a generic term on Android phones - the HTC one is call Hboot.
Recovery is a separate app/partition, it can be started from Hboot. If you root, you'll probably install Clockworkmod Recovery, which lets you backup/restore the partitions. It should also prevent an OTA update from being installed.
S-On/S-Off refer to a security feature which prevents unsigned images from being flashed. Rooting should set S-Off, which lets you make changes.
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Nice, Simple explanations. Very clear and helpful. Thanks.
Quick question about the Rezound. I have always owned a Motorola Phone and I am accustomed to being able to restore my phone Via SBF/XML file and I am wondering how one would fix their phone if they brick it. Is an RUU file something similar to an SBF file? I was about to flash a new rom and a new radio but I wanted to be sure what all this stuff was before I started flashing different things and if there were recovery files and say stock radios and such.
Thanks for any help you provide
I think the word "brick" has taken on a completely different meaning than intended. Bricking means it is just that...a brick...not repairable.
I also think you should review the posting guidelines for the development forum. This thread has no reason to be here at all. Head over to the general section for questions.
reddawn1563 said:
Quick question about the Rezound. I have always owned a Motorola Phone and I am accustomed to being able to restore my phone Via SBF/XML file and I am wondering how one would fix their phone if they brick it. Is an RUU file something similar to an SBF file? I was about to flash a new rom and a new radio but I wanted to be sure what all this stuff was before I started flashing different things and if there were recovery files and say stock radios and such.
Thanks for any help you provide
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This should be posted in General. To answer your question an RUU will return you to stock, however there are no flashable radio's on the Rezound since there is no S-Off. If you soft-brick(I hate that term) you can run the RUU and it should bring you back from the proverbial dead.
MrSmith317 said:
This should be posted in General. To answer your question an RUU will return you to stock, however there are no flashable radio's on the Rezound since there is no S-Off. If you soft-brick(I hate that term) you can run the RUU and it should bring you back from the proverbial dead.
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MrSmith has this correct. One addition though, in order to run the RUU on an unlocked device, it must be re-locked with fastboot first. This can be done by typing
Code:
fastboot oem lock
in fastboot mode. You can then type
Code:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
and run the RUU. You can also download the RUU converted into a PH98IMG.zip that will flash itself from HBOOT similar to kernels
Is there a way to quickly unlock after the RUU or do you have to do the last steps of htc's unlock process over again?
Alright so I'm coming from a Droid 2. I come from the land of CWR and having to SBF before I could go back to a FroYo ROM from Gingerbread because we couldn't flash kernels.
Basically, this is my very first HTC phone and although its similar to a Moto phone, I am realizing more and more that things are much different. I'm unlocked and rooted running Bamf ICS but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing lol. With S-OFF now, I want to be careful not to screw up my device and know exactly what I'm doing.
So my questions are...
What is an RUU?
What all is flashable through a recovery with S-Off?
If I don't have S-Off, what is this p(something)img.zip file that I'm always flashing?
Anything else you feel is important lol.
Sorry if this has been well explained somewhere else. I have just been reading through a lot of forums on here and it seems that most people are coming from HTC phones and already know the processes. If someone also coming from a Moto phone has any insights or explanations they would be greatly appreciated
GetRipped said:
Alright so I'm coming from a Droid 2. I come from the land of CWR and having to SBF before I could go back to a FroYo ROM from Gingerbread because we couldn't flash kernels.
Basically, this is my very first HTC phone and although its similar to a Moto phone, I am realizing more and more that things are much different. I'm unlocked and rooted running Bamf ICS but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing lol. With S-OFF now, I want to be careful not to screw up my device and know exactly what I'm doing.
So my questions are...
What is an RUU?
What all is flashable through a recovery with S-Off?
If I don't have S-Off, what is this p(something)img.zip file that I'm always flashing?
Anything else you feel is important lol.
Sorry if this has been well explained somewhere else. I have just been reading through a lot of forums on here and it seems that most people are coming from HTC phones and already know the processes. If someone also coming from a Moto phone has any insights or explanations they would be greatly appreciated
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a RUU is a rom update utility that returns you to stock factory settings that is flashed through the bootloader or by .exe file.
With s-off you can flash radios,hboots,splash screens,firmware,recoverys (through bootloader). And in recovery i think just kernels without having to flash the boot.img through adb
Not sure since i dont have this device. But i believe it is the firmware needed to run ICS roms without problems
The PH .img thing is the kernel. If you try to flash a Rom with an incompatible kernel it won't boot. Likewise, if your going between say to gb roma that use the stock kernel, you don't need to mess with the ph thing.
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great to have you here man!! and s-off is great now that we have it. give the devs time and everything will be flashed in a one step process (kernel, rom, boot screens etc)
ph98img.zip is not the kernel ...but it can be...
ph98img.zip's are anything from kernels, spash screens, radios now, etc.
the new ics leaked firmware for example came in ph98img.zip format
it had included a new, ... well everything
so ph98img's are updates you run in the bootloader and dev's package different things in them.
Ok thanks, I'll be getting this phone sometime soon and coming from Moto the process of doing things seem way, way more confusing and more time consuming when it comes to backups and what not. Do you guys recommend when I first get the phone before even setting it all up to unlock BL, perm root, S-Off and flash my Rom of choice then doing a backup? Also are the backups the same as moto, just one click and it makes a zip to flash whenever?
RoryHe said:
ph98img.zip is not the kernel ...but it can be...
ph98img.zip's are anything from kernels, spash screens, radios now, etc.
the new ics leaked firmware for example came in ph98img.zip format
it had included a new, ... well everything
so ph98img's are updates you run in the bootloader and dev's package different things in them.
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Your right but he's talking about the ones you need to flash with roms, which are all kernels. But right nonetheless could be a 3mb kernel or 600mb ruu
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So I've been really out of touch with rooting, and all the h4x with phones lately. I bought my Evo3D on release day, and whatever was the first permanent root option that was there I did. I don't remember what I used to get root. It's been a while. I've never changed anything other than the ROM a few times. Never flashed a kernel. I was running Fresh Evo3D for a while, and recently switched to MeanROM ICS. Started with 2.3. Looking to flash 2.6. I'm really looking to take advantage of some other kernels out there, mainly for overclocking purposes.
It's a hard subject to search for... any search term with hboot in it is threads full of people who already know what they're talking about.
So if it's not too much to ask, can somebody point me in the right direction so I at least understand what hboot is, what it means to be "on" or "off" and how it affects whether I can flash kernels? If there's a wiki or something out there that I can read up on that'd be great.
From what I can gather from this thread on MeanROM ICS 2.6 is in order to flash the 2.89 kernel, I need to upgrade hboot to 1.58 s-off...... ooookkkkk...
I'm trying not to come off as an "uber newb" I don't mind reading to find the answer... I just have no clue where to look. Every thread I've found, like I've said before, is people referencing hboot as if you already know what it is.
Here's some pics attached below of current phone's configuration if that makes any difference:
Thank you in advance for any assistance, and please try and keep the flaming to a minimum
You are s-off which means you can flash everything you need to in recovery. Since you've flashed a custom ROM before, I assume you can do that.
What I did:
0. You may want to change recoveries to 4ext (see my signature on the web version of XDA). Thus is newer and runs better in my opinion. Just install the app and run it.
1. Boot into recovery and do a nandroid backup of your current setup.
2. Install MeanRom 2.6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645211
(I installed this first so that there Rom I am on will be made for the new firmware)
3. Install the firmware update without the new hboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673377
(Note, you only need the new hboot 1.58 if you plan to use the new stock HTC kernel. Otherwise, do like I did and stay with hboot 1.4 as it is compatible with more Roms)
4. Install whichever custom Rom you want.
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long story short i have somehow lost the ability to receive full resolution pics via mms on any rom. so i assume at this point i can only ruu. im just having truoble filtering thru the threads. im s-off and on the most recent firmware running viper 4.1 atm. do i need to do anything special before i run torrented's ruu.exe? and what would i need to do after returning to stock ruu? please help. i usually never have any problems.
I used this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
Working without any issues. My sim card had to be replaced but I think that was the numerous attempts at loading firmware and other things