Hi,
I wanted to use my international One X+ as a gps device in my car.
Connected my car charger, it indicated it was loading the battery using ac charger.
During usage of the tomtom gps software, I saw my battery percentage still dropping.
How is this possible, you can't use gps software like this if your battery is draining faster than a AC adapter can load it.
Anyone have a solution or experienced the same issue?
Regards:
lyzanxia said:
Hi,
I wanted to use my international One X+ as a gps device in my car.
Connected my car charger, it indicated it was loading the battery using ac charger.
During usage of the tomtom gps software, I saw my battery percentage still dropping.
How is this possible, you can't use gps software like this if your battery is draining faster than a AC adapter can load it.
Anyone have a solution or experienced the same issue?
Regards:
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Sometimes it actually displays a message saying something like "the phone is using more power than the power supplied by the charger".
Possible solutions:
Buy a better charger (there are different qualities/types, like 300mA, 500mA, 1A, etc)
If you already have a good charger, install a kernel with "Fast Charge" and enable it (it enables the phone to charge at 1A rate, I think)
If you can't do any of those, just lower screen brightness and hope for the best
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I have been experimenting quite a bit as the battery is draining completely even when connected to the car charger and using GPS navigation, even though it shows the battery as charging. No other apps are running in the background other than basic phone functions.
I have tested with the following navigation applications, but the result is much the same:-
Garmin
iGo
TomTom
I have also tried a variety of cooked ROMS which seem to make no difference too! these include Artemis, Dutty, CleanEx, Chucky, and Energy (my favorite one)
Does anyone else experience this problem and have found a solution? Any suggestions gratefully received.
Thanks in advance
Richard
It may charge the phone, but maybe it can't charge faster than the phone is discharging. Is the charger ok? I bought a charger originally designed for N97 and it is charging my HD2 too, because the USB port is the same. I think either your charger is not compatibile with your HD2 or it is faulty.
I bought a charger that plugs into the smoker lighter, while using co-pilot I never have this problem. What charger you using?
Check the output of the charger, it should be at least 600mA, preferably 1000mA.
I had a charger which could give 450mA and indeed in did charge, but power in the battery went less and less.
So, I switched to a 1A charger and this works great, havind GPS, iGO and updating my GPS location to internet via 3G and it still charges the battery quite fast!
Try the Copilot Live 8. I'm having no problems with it. Battery's sufficient.
Sent from my HD2
Thanks for the suggestions, have tried a couple of different chargers rated at 1000mA, with one there is a slight improvement but nothing significant. Unfortunately the CoPilot option is not an option as they do not have mapping for Thailand.
Cheers Richard
Guys, I know this has been discussed before but this problem is subtly different to previous requests so I'm posting again.
So this is an X10 running 2.1
I have a car charger which is a 2.1amp ipad charger. I also have a 1amp standard car charger. I do not have an SE branded car adapter, but both of the above adapters trigger the charging on correctly as far as i am aware.
If I just leave the phone on charge with the screen off it charges up just fine.
If I leave the screen on with no apps running it charges fine (slower than above)
If I run Copilot with APN Data enabled the battery slowly discharges, even though the charge light is on, and the battery indicator indicates charging.
If I run Copilot and disable APN Data the battery just stays at the same level and neither charges nor discharges. It seems to meet a state of equilibrium.
I ran Copilot with APN enabled and SetCPU limiting the CPU to 225MHz and the battery still discharges (albeit at a slower rate than without SetCPU).
I have the phone screen on minimum brightness and I am not running anything else unnecessary. I have checked battery temperature and I have never seen it above 32 degrees.
The same applies for Google navigation instead of copilot. Both discharge the battery whilst on charge.
I also noticed the other day that something went a bit mental on the phone and was consuming high CPU while the phone was on my branded SE AC wall charger and the battery ran down until the phone turned itself off whilst on charge.
So, does anyone else experience the fact that the phone does not draw enough power via the USB port to cover the current draw on the battery. I have 2.1 amps available on the car adapter and its clearly not drawing anywhere near that. Running it on the 1 amp charger also makes no difference. The SE branded AC adapter is rated at 750mA.
Is this normal?
Any clues?
At the moment to complete a 6 hour journey in the car using satnav on my X10 I have to take 2 or 3 fully charged batteries with me, in addition to having it on the charger.
Graham
Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
fungosaurus said:
Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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GPS is usually a big energy hog. How many amps is your car charger?
You should be able to get away with a higher amperage charger, but the trade off may be reduced battery life.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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How fast does it discharge? I just went on an out of state trip last week and had gps on with the charger plugged in for several hours at a time. I didn't pay attention to the actual charge numbers, but it either discharges very gradually or charges very gradually. I could probably run it all day with the charger and gps without a problem. I don't recall the amp output of my car charger, but it is one of the cheap foreign models.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Reflash your ROM, dude. I had that problem on one of my initial GB ROM's where I had bad drain using GPS while charging in my car. I redownloaded and wiped everything and reflashed the ROM and everything was good.
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If you are running a custom ROM, you can use SetCPU (or any other CPU clock control app that allows profiles) to set max of 800MHz when plugged in. This should at least get you to even charge/discharge levels when plugged in and running GPS while driving. Probably will depend on your screen brightness.
I don't run GPS long term very often right now, but I was for a while and FWIW, I was able to stream pandora, run google maps with screen on, not have any lag, and get a slow charge from my car charger by limiting clock speed to 800MHz.
Your other option (and what I usually do) is turn off the screen during longer sections of GPS nav with no turns (like sections of highway). You'll still get audible notifications for the next turn/maneuver/interchange/whatever, and you can turn the display on then if you need visual along with audio nav. The phone shouldn't have any problem charging and running GPS with the screen off...
fungosaurus said:
Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Not all USB car chargers are alike. You need two things:
1. The car charger outputs higher current than 500ma. You need at least 700ma.
2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
Thanks for the tips guys.
My phone discharges at around 1% every 20 minutes or so. I've been doing things like turning the screen off during periods of downtime to help with this (actually charges when I do this).
I'm using cheapy car adapter actually that has two usb ports and 2 cigarette ports in it and I use that with a samsung branded usb cable.
Hm yeah I'll try and see if limiting the CPU will help and if it does perhaps I'll just do that from now on.
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2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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The correctly wired charger will typically short the USB data PINs. iPhone charges and most generic car chargers with UBS ports don't do that. Most HTC chargers and Motorola chargers will work on Samsung phones. You need take a look at your car charger to see how much amps it can supply (listed on the spec label). The PC usb can only output 500ma max per spec. It is not enough to charge the phone while keep the screen on, GPS running and 3G connection active. Your Samsung OEM wall charger is rated 700ma. So, you need a car charger that outputs at least 700ma.
You then need to verify from the phone that the particular charger is recorgnized by the phone as AC charger. Without that, the phone will only draw 500ma max.
Donno if its the regular case of 'bad usb port'. It's happening only when I'm charging with specific car charger (1A, output 5V) sometimes its charging fine, sometimes I notice its stop charge and the icon of battery is blinking/flashing...
I've tried to clean the usb cable and port from dust, maybe the cable got some dust into it?
Also I've notice that the temperature of device goes down to 22°C when its happening...
At any other chargers (include othe car chargers and other wall chargers) there is no problem at all...
What could be the reason of this specific car charger (it used to work without any problem the last few months ago)?
High/Low voltage? Dust?
maybe other problem with my device? (Battery/something else)
BTW - when I plug the charger out when its happening its stop blinking.
could you please give us a screenshot?
Do the blow thing
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From reading your post, it only happens with that one charger....any other charger works as expected?
That being the case.....it ain't your phone or the USB port/board in the phone.....
Chargers DO fail, and from my experience, dc to dc step down transformers and circuitry (the type in your car charger) have a higher failure rate than their ac to dc (mains) equivalents. ....
Time to buy a new car charger methinks
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@wishmas7er - which screenshot mate? when its happens all I see is blinking/flashing battery icon, without any other message or something else about it.
@keithross39 - correctly mate, all other charger (any kind of them) works just fine.
Yeah seems like its the car charger problem, just first time i've notice it...
Thanks!
BTW - the reason of 'bad touch' while charging with some generic chargers is because higher amperage then should be to this device's battery? or other reason?
As long as the amperage is not ludicrously high or low, the only noticeable difference would be the charge time.....other than that there should be no noticable effect....
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Battery Icon Flashing with Samsung Galaxy S4 Car Charger
I had the same problem charging my Galaxy S4 in the car. AC charging works fine but when plugged into the DC car charger the battery indicator icon flashed rather than showing the lightning bolt.
I purchased a higher voltage DC charger adapter, same symptom.
Finally I swapped out the USB-to-micro cable and now it works fine. I suspect that in the car the phone gets jarred over time and it wears down the micro-USB connector.
It's not just you fella........
The micro USB socket idea is (imo) a pathetically fragile arrangement for what the manufacturers intend it to do. I've repaired two phones with worn out sockets, and judging by what I am reading on XDA, it is an issue that is getting more and more common.........
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So I'm experiencing the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. And ithe galena with all charges. I have to keep unplugging and replugging ...and OCCASIONALLY it charges. I don't know what's the problem
Kideinstein33 said:
So I'm experiencing the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. And ithe galena with all charges. I have to keep unplugging and replugging ...and OCCASIONALLY it charges. I don't know what's the problem
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I have same problem with my nexus 4.
After some googling I came across an app called Ampere.
This app tells you how much rate of current your battery is charging at.
So what i found is that when phone gets old the battery doesnt hold up charge as before. So the charge rate becomes slow. The nexus charger is rated at 1Amp and at the time of charging is able to provide low current than the rate at which the battery is draining. So the Android gets confused between charging and discharging.
For eg: if phone is charging at 300mA and draining at 350mA.
Also the battery draining rate is constantly changing. So when its greater than charging rate phone shows discharging and if less : charging...
Fix: There are three fixes which i can think ...
1) Get a higher Amp rated charger...
2) while charging close most of apps , dont play games , switch to a lower gen network like 2g , close wifi , close data which will reduce the discharge rate of the battery.
3) Get a new battery.
So I'm experiencing the almost the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. It won't come on it won't reboot I've tried everything BUT replace the battery because if I plug it up it'll vibrate and blink but nothing else works. It's completely black when it's unplugged.
Hello,
Lately I've been having a weird issue with charging my I9300 device:
When I charge the device using the charger (which is original, by Samsung) , sometimes it takes a huge amount of time to charge, and if I also use the device (even for simple things) it actually drains the battery instead of charging it.
I've installed "Galaxy charging current" app, which also shows weird results:
When I have this issue, the average/maximum value is about 400mA or even 100mA , but when I disconnect the USB from the device and reconnect it, the values can change to 900 or 999 or even a bit higher.
My device is running on CM rom version "11-20140612-NIGHTLY-i9300" .
I'm not sure if it's related to the rom , the kernel or something about the hardware.
I've checked the battery status by going to a hidden (?) setting (using my app btw) of "Testing"->"Battery information", and saw that for "battery health", it says "Good". Attached a screenshot of what I see.
Can anyone please help?
Also, is there maybe an app that can warn me when the device is being charged yet it has the battery being drained? Or maybe give me an estimated time till the battery will finish being charged? I also hope that such an app won't drain the battery by itself...
This behaviour is caused due to the inbuilt charging protection mechanisms.
Its usually the cable. Samsung one is known to be crappy. Get a proper one and try.
If you are still experiencing issues plug it in to a different port. Front panel USB ports are sometimes too weak to supply high currents
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nkirk said:
This behaviour is caused due to the inbuilt charging protection mechanisms.
Its usually the cable. Samsung one is known to be crappy. Get a proper one and try.
If you are still experiencing issues plug it in to a different port. Front panel USB ports are sometimes too weak to supply high currents
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Is it possible it's just the cable and not the charger?
I thought that cables are "stupid" .
EDIT: that's weird.
I tried 2 other cables: an old one of LG, and a new one of Chromecast. Both showed about 460mA in the app, no matter how many times I re-connected the device to them.
I've also tried to connect the Samsung's USB to the computer's front USB, and it gave me 400mA, but I think this is more expected.
Do you think that using a different new USB cable will solve it? or maybe it's the charger?
EDIT: just tried a new Samsung USB, and it seems to work just fine.
I didn't know USB cables are so different.
i olso had problem with charging..stock charger ...slow charging and battery drain on charge ....it was a problem with wall charge unit ...i used other phone's charger but max on that was 700 mAh and phone charged normaly.(but slowly)..now again my stock charger is working again plus i have 2m cable aftermarket ....can that be a softvare issue...if unit isn't good than it souldn't charge now normaly