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Someone please correct me if I am wrong but please don't flame me.
Other than UI features, will there be any benefit to an ICS ROM made from source? Won't we still have to use a gingerbread kernel? From what I understand, there will be zero performance gain from it until we get a kernel source from HTC. Am I wrong in thinking that? Or will someone be able to make an ICS kernel for it when the source for ICS drops?
The reason I ask is because the most exciting thing to me about ICS is the hardware acceleration.
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I remember reading somewhere that ICS is supposed to take advantage of the dual core power of cell phones. Not 100% sure but I want ICS because of the looks and the UI
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We have HTC kernel source its just not fully complete (unfortunately) but toastcfh was able to tweak it to work. The only reason you see custom kernels is because of source. ICS does impelement the first mobile Linux 3.0 kernel. Once ICS source drops, one of the first things to do is merge our kernel source with the new 3.0 kernel and then go from there. Not only will ICS have full 2D acceleration throughout the entire UI the new kernel should bring a few benefits at the least just slight overall improvements. Although it will be interesting to see how large the new AOSP roms will end up being. Google has specifically said that ICS will a bit on the heavy side and even ruled out a nexus one upgrade due to out-of-date hardware. Our HTC shooter's will definitely be just fine but just a thought. To answer your question though yes, expect major UI improvements and "under-the-hood" speed improvements. Due to the nature of open source we will be able to take advantage almost every enhancement ICS brings.
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We have HTC kernel source its just not fully complete (unfortunately) but toastcfh was able to tweak it to work. The only reason you see custom kernels is because of source. ICS does impelement the first mobile Linux 3.0 kernel. Once ICS source drops, one of the first things to do is merge our kernel source with the new 3.0 kernel and then go from there. Not only will ICS have full 2D acceleration throughout the entire UI the new kernel should bring a few benefits at the least just slight overall improvements. Although it will be interesting to see how large the new AOSP roms will end up being. Google has specifically said that ICS will a bit on the heavy side and even ruled out a nexus one upgrade due to out-of-date hardware. Our HTC shooter's will definitely be just fine but just a thought. To answer your question though yes, expect major UI improvements and "under-the-hood" speed improvements. Due to the nature of open source we will be able to take advantage almost every enhancement ICS brings.
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bballer71418 said:
We have HTC kernel source its just not fully complete (unfortunately) but toastcfh was able to tweak it to work. The only reason you see custom kernels is because of source. ICS does impelement the first mobile Linux 3.0 kernel. Once ICS source drops, one of the first things to do is merge our kernel source with the new 3.0 kernel and then go from there. Not only will ICS have full 2D acceleration throughout the entire UI the new kernel should bring a few benefits at the least just slight overall improvements. Although it will be interesting to see how large the new AOSP roms will end up being. Google has specifically said that ICS will a bit on the heavy side and even ruled out a nexus one upgrade due to out-of-date hardware. Our HTC shooter's will definitely be just fine but just a thought. To answer your question though yes, expect major UI improvements and "under-the-hood" speed improvements. Due to the nature of open source we will be able to take advantage almost every enhancement ICS brings.
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I understand what you are saying. The biggest thing I was wondering is, will we have a true ICS kernel as soon as ICS source drops. I think I remember some phones having to use froyo kernels with gingerbread ROMs. I could be wrong but I think that's right.
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Even if the kernel source isnt released yet, its gonna take months for a full working ics aosp rom. UI improvements, the UI is a huge improvement. Seems like android was rebuilt to me. Hardware improvements. Its worth it.
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Toast has a isc kernel?
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Toast has an AOSP kernel. Once the ICS source gets dropped (which includes kernel source) toast and others will merge our drivers and such with the new AOSP Linux 3.0 kernel
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I understand what you are saying. The biggest thing I was wondering is, will we have a true ICS kernel as soon as ICS source drops. I think I remember some phones having to use froyo kernels with gingerbread ROMs. I could be wrong but I think that's right.
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I think I remember what you are talking about with og Evo. The kernel source only gives us libs and drivers and such that we modify to be able to use AOSP roms. Once the EVO 3D officially gets ICS the process of making custom kernels becomes a bit easier but will not necessarily improve performance. Idk if you had an og Evo but toastcfh as well as others from savaged-zen had a functional Linux 2.8 kernel while all stock android kernels were on 2.5 & 2.6. Once we get any kind of source at all we can get a Linux 3.0 ICS kernel with all of the new benifits it entails. Completed (which we don't really have) or updated source just makes the process easier
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thanks everyone, esp OP, for creating a good read and a productive thread in the General section. these are becoming a rarity!
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thanks everyone, esp OP, for creating a good read and a productive thread in the General section. these are becoming a rarity!
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That they are, but it was actually a question so it should have gone in the Q/A thread....
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That they are, but it was actually a question so it should have gone in the Q/A thread....
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I understand it should have gone in Q&A but I personally never look in there and figured that was the same for many people here. Figured something like this should be in general, where a lot of people would see it and answer the question or enjoy reading the answers. With all of the bull crap posted in the general section lately, thought it would be a nice change to have something that many people would be interested in. Thought people would rather see this here than another SGSII vs 3D thread, or some other bull****. If I am wrong, mods feel free to move it but I think most people will agree.
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lyon21 said:
I understand it should have gone in Q&A but I personally never look in there and figured that was the same for many people here. Figured something like this should be in general, where a lot of people would see it and answer the question or enjoy reading the answers. With all of the bull crap posted in the general section lately, thought it would be a nice change to have something that many people would be interested in. Thought people would rather see this here than another SGSII vs 3D thread, or some other bull****. If I am wrong, mods feel free to move it but I think most people will agree.
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Man...I should just put (sarcasm) at the end of my posts instead of the winking smiley guy.
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That they are, but it was actually a question so it should have gone in the Q/A thread....
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Q/A section seems to be more for technical help and advice help. Trivial questions that require conversing and the spread of general knowledge of the topic seem reasonable in the general section, imho.
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Man...I should just put (sarcasm) at the end of my posts instead of the winking smiley guy.
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I wasn't being a **** about it. I was just explaining why I didn't put it in the Q&A section. Hope it wasn't taken that way.
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Listen up, please don't post useless comments. And if people do, don't flame them for 5 pages because of it!
I am not an expert, but this is what I have pieced together. I know this is rather long but this will roughly explain Kernels, S-Off, and why Development is lacking.
Here is the way I see community android development. There are themers, Rom chefs, kernel builders, and coders. Themers make most of the visual changes. Rom chefs take a little of everyones efforts and actually puts the Roms together. Kernel builders make the custom kernels for sense, aosp, and miui. The coders are the ones who really understand the code and make the complicated things work (S-off/Root Access/Incomplete drivers/new bootloaders/things like that). Now really everyone works together and there is some crossover in people's abilities but a community really needs all of these in order to fully develop.
Kernels/Drivers:
Think of it this way, the hardware talks to the drivers/kernel and the drivers/kernel talks to the Os. The drivers/kernels are like the translator between two different languages. The problem is that our current kernel made by Htc only knows how to translate from our hardware to Sense. We have to make custom kernels that can translate from our hardware to Aosp Gb, Aosp Ics, or Miui.
The problem:
Faux is extremely talented but here is what he has stated as the problem in making these custom kernels:
Amaze WiFi driver is a modified TI WiFi driver. The major problem is we don't know what HTC did to the WiFi driver for the Amaze.
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Now I have talked to Htc and they said that they won't be releasing the full source code that includes the wifi drivers because of proprietary issues. My guess is that TI is the company that owns the original drivers and they don't want them released. Faux:
TI drivers are designed to work with OMAP Chipsets not Qualcomm chipsets, so HTC had to do some major hacks to make it work with Qualcomm chipset. It is NOT IMPOSSIBLE to reverse engineer what HTC did, it's very time consuming and tedious.
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The Solution
I don't have a solution but that is what this thread is for. We need to brainstorm ideas to make this happen.
Here is a link to Htc Dev if you would like to bug them about it (though I'm not sure this would help)
http://htcdev.com/contact
The other solution is to focus on Coders that can reverse engineer the Wifi drivers. We don't need S-OFF yet! S-Off simply allows users to flash things like a kernel and radio directly to the phone through recovery. THAT IS ALL! It will not help bring Aosp faster! Here is Faux's opinion:
IMHO, S-Off at this stage does very little if at all at this moment. Having a working WiFi source is far more important and will increase development for Amaze than S-Off... S-On is just a minor annoyance...
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I hope that this helps to clear up why development is so slow. We don't have anyone that wants to jump in and build the Wifi drivers so that Faux and Xboarder can make the Kernels for the Aosp Roms to run upon. Xboarder is still at work hacking and slashing at the code to get it working but I think we need someone with years of experience and knowledge to join the efforts. Xboarder is extremely talented but he isn't a code guru yet. Go to the forums of previous phones you have had and look around for people who have re engineered Lib files and phone drivers. Talk to some of the other Kernel builders to see if they are interested in building the driver. This is where we need to focus effort and money in order to stimulate development.
Wifi Driver
From Squish099:
@htcdev Amaze 4G needs missing wifi driver from /platform//hardware/ti/wlan/wl1283 and /wl1283_softAP. Both are missing from Amaze source.
Found it in an old tweet faux sent to htc just after thanksgiving.
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craigtut said:
Listen up, please don't post useless comments. And if people do, don't flame them for 5 pages because of it!
I am not an expert, but this is what I have pieced together. I know this is rather long but this will roughly explain Kernels, S-Off, and why Development is lacking.
Here is the way I see community android development. There are themers, Rom chefs, kernel builders, and coders. Themers make most of the visual changes. Rom chefs take a little of everyones efforts and actually puts the Roms together. Kernel builders make the custom kernels for sense, aosp, and miui. The coders are the ones who really understand the code and make the complicated things work (S-off/Root Access/Incomplete drivers/new bootloaders/things like that). Now really everyone works together and there is some crossover in people's abilities but a community really needs all of these in order to fully develop.
Kernels/Drivers:
Think of it this way, the hardware talks to the drivers/kernel and the drivers/kernel talks to the Os. The drivers/kernels are like the translator between two different languages. The problem is that our current kernel made by Htc only knows how to translate from our hardware to Sense. We have to make custom kernels that can translate from our hardware to Aosp Gb, Aosp Ics, or Miui.
The problem:
Faux is extremely talented but here is what he has stated as the problem in making these custom kernels:
Now I have talked to Htc and they said that they won't be releasing the full source code because of proprietary issues. My guess is that TI is the company that owns the original drivers and they don't want them released. Faux:
The Solution
I don't have a solution but that is what this thread is for. We need to brainstorm ideas to make this happen.
Here is a link to Htc Dev if you would like to bug them about it (though I'm not sure this would help)
http://htcdev.com/contact
The other solution is to focus on Coders that can reverse engineer the Wifi drivers. We don't need S-OFF yet! S-Off simply allows users to flash things like a kernel and radio directly to the phone through recovery. THAT IS ALL! It will not help bring Aosp faster! Here is Faux's opinion:
I hope that this helps to clear up why development is so slow. We don't have anyone that wants to jump in and build the Wifi drivers so that Faux and Xboarder can make the Kernels for the Aosp Roms to run upon. Xboarder is still at work hacking and slashing at the code to get it working but I think we need someone with years of experience and knowledge to join the efforts. Xboarder is extremely talented but he isn't a code guru yet. Go to the forums of previous phones you have had and look around for people who have re engineered Lib files and phone drivers. Talk to some of the other Kernel builders to see if they are interested in building the driver. This is where we need to focus effort and money in order to stimulate development.
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Good post lots of info, s-off really isn't that much of a big deal. Interesting. The WiFi drivers really are important sucks how HTC handled the amaze, I'm really hoping they're more open with the HTC one thanks for the info.
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I was able to flash kernel through recovery?
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knifeproz said:
I was able to flash kernel through recovery?
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Uhh no...?
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HTC really messed up, and they call them self dev friendly,
same people that has got s-off on the sensation had tried to do for the amaze but they backed off,
but as you made a point s-off isnt really the problem here, the problem seems to be the drivers that htc wont realease
really the only person we have working hard on this device is Xboarder and binary100100 is doing what he can.
and he has done a really good job, and noobs had got on his nerves. We can not afford to lose him.
i really wish this phone have more developers working on getting things right, like that saying says two brains is better than one
i really love my phone but in the other hand i love roms. and as this phone its not a worldwide phone like the sensation i can understand the lack of developers
as you all know that the sensation have 40+ roms,themes,radios,kernerls,tweaks
sometimes i regret of getting rid of it, but specks says this is a better one,
had you guys ever though about asking for help on the android development forum? we might get lucky and find somebody that is willing to help.
but anyways thank you for saying it like it is and get us understand more of the situation, and me as i think all of you, would do anything to help..
I'm no dev, but i have done something
I HAVE PMED TWO KERNEL DEVELOPERS , TO LOOK INTO THIS THREAD TO GIVE A GLANCE , IF THEY CAN GIVE ANY INPUT ABOUT IT..
If there is any reply from them , i'll let the community know..
I think this is one of the important thread, we should probably have it in Development section and should be made sticky.
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I think this is one of the important thread, we should probably have it in Development section and should be made sticky.
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Lol good luck finding an active moderator to do anything in this Amaze forum besides handing out infractions. Binary bounced
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glacierguy said:
Lol good luck finding an active moderator to do anything in this Amaze forum besides handing out infractions. Binary bounced
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yeah, you will have more luck if you are looking for trolls flaming moderators indeed
Anyway,we cant stick everything in development, but i will see what i can do
Edit: oké, i will make a sticky collection thread.
So we will have less thread's sticked.
One or two sticked with all important info
This thread should be priority one in the Amaze forum.
Max Krivonos has Wifi working on his CM9 build for Amaze. Once he gets everything else working (which is limited to the rest of the radios, camera, and USB charge detection), I imagine the source will be released for use.
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Max Krivonos has Wifi working on his CM9 build for Amaze. Once he gets everything else working (which is limited to the rest of the radios, camera, and USB charge detection), I imagine the source will be released for use.
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agreed. football usually drops a leak well ahead of the time ota goes live. either way, once we get the ics kernel, im rocking cm9 for good
mrmako777 said:
agreed. football usually drops a leak well ahead of the time ota goes live. either way, once we get the ics kernel, im rocking cm9 for good
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Official ota will help but I don't think it will work for aosp. It will still only work with the sense until faux does some of his magic to it.
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Once cm9 comes out ill use it till aosp is out. I wasn't a huge fan of cm9 for hd2 but might change for this device!
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Official ota will help but I don't think it will work for aosp. It will still only work with the sense until faux does some of his magic to it.
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dont quote me, but i think max said once he got a hold of the ics leak, he could use the wifi drivers from there...or something to that effect
he already have wifi working on cm9, but not calls, and he wont take any help. this once used to be a family in devs working together trying to get things right but now its just a race on who release it first, same thing happened on the sensation
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he already have wifi working on cm9, but not calls, and he wont take any help. this once used to be a family in devs working together trying to get things right but now its just a race on who release it first, same thing happened on the sensation
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If I was a Dev I would take any help I could get =\
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Xxxpachaxxx is a kernel developer for dhd..he is looking into it but he wants to know what is the driver number for HTC amaze ...
Can some1 pleease tell me what it is ASAP!!
Is it bcm4329 ?? Fast please
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dullhunk said:
Xxxpachaxxx is a kernel developer for dhd..he is looking into it but he wants to know what is the driver number for HTC amaze ...
Can some1 pleease tell me what it is ASAP!!
Is it bcm4329 ?? Fast please
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I don't know what it is but you could pm Faux123 for the info.
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he already have wifi working on cm9, but not calls, and he wont take any help. this once used to be a family in devs working together trying to get things right but now its just a race on who release it first, same thing happened on the sensation
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He's working with a dozen other CM devs on MSM 8x60 devices. He just doesn't care for XDA. And with what this forum is turning into, I don't blame him.
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When jellybean leaks or is officially released do you think there will be more devs working on custom roms?? Im ordering mine on tuesday no matter what tho. cant wait
Probably not. Already a number of devs working on things.
I would imagine that you will see a few new devs and roms when/if the first person figures out a reasonable way of converting N4 / ASOP roms over though.
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JasonJoel said:
Probably not. Already a number of debs working on things.
I would imagine that you will see a few new devs and roms when/if the first person figures out a reasonable way of converting N4 / ASOP roms over though.
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that sounds great
thanks for the quick reply
JoeyGuard said:
When jellybean leaks or is officially released do you think there will be more devs working on custom roms?? Im ordering mine on tuesday no matter what tho. cant wait
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The Base rom will probably be updated to 4.1 or 4.2 depending on what's released.
We probably won't see more devs immediately but, keep in mind Christmas is coming up so a lot of people will be getting new devices and have no free time till Christmas..
Then after Christmas people will have less to do, more time, and a new device to play with.
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The Base rom will probably be updated to 4.1 or 4.2 depending on what's released.
We probably won't see more devs immediately but, keep in mind Christmas is coming up so a lot of people will be getting new devices and have no free time till Christmas..
Then after Christmas people will have less to do, more time, and a new device to play with.
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Great point. Plus, we really only need a few devs. Give me one that can compile CM10.1, one that handles AOKP and maybe a few that make some hybrids. Hell, if development doesn't pick up once JB source for this device is available, I will buy a phone for a member on my team that can build from source
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JohnCorleone said:
Great point. Plus, we really only need a few devs. Give me one that can compile CM10.1, one that handles AOKP and maybe a few that make some hybrids. Hell, if development doesn't pick up once JB source for this device is available, I will buy a phone for a member on my team that can build from source
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Any idiot with Linux could learn easily how to compile assuming the sources are all there, but there are things we have to make from scratch or modify from the nexus. We are working on it.
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One of the reasons they changed the moderator system was to keep Questions out of General and the Development fora. There's a whole Q/A forum for this device. Please try to remember that.
Moved to Q&A please post in proper sections.
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Hey guys just wondering if there are any devs out there that can work on kernels. I think it would be awesome to have a kernel that includes dt2w. Anyone else as interested in this as me?
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coachcrey said:
Hey guys just wondering if there are any devs out there that can work on kernels. I think it would be awesome to have a kernel that includes dt2w. Anyone else as interested in this as me?
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crparmer
not sure if i spelled it right.
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crparmer
not sure if i spelled it right.
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Yeah but I think he likes to keep thing as stock as possible.
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Yeah but I think he likes to keep thing as stock as possible.
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Not really it done a amazing kernal for cm 10.2
And I believe he is working on one for 4.4 kitkat cm 11
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Not really it done a amazing kernal for cm 10.2
And I believe he is working on one for 4.4 kitkat cm 11
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I know that but when people have asked him to add sleep to wake he didn't seem interested in that I'm not dogging him at all man he great no question asked.
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Adding it takes time, adds risk to the stability of the phone and gives me no benefit. My phone is heavily locked down by my IT department and with a minimum 8 character alpha numeric password, the sweep or double tap to wake is not improving my life.
I love s2w as much add the next guy..... but try omnirom 4.4, and enable active display.... you might like it better.
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Adding it takes time, adds risk to the stability of the phone and gives me no benefit. My phone is heavily locked down by my IT department and with a minimum 8 character alpha numeric password, the sweep or double tap to wake is not improving my life.
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This is why i was trying to shout out to other. I know your work is the real deal man. Its just something I'm interested in. In no way was i trying to insult you.
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I love s2w as much add the next guy..... but try omnirom 4.4, and enable active display.... you might like it better.
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I'm not sure what settings you use with active display but I'm not really sold using it. I like sweep2wake as well.
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Okay, here's a dumb question... Right now we share the AOSP kernel source with the HTC One. Wouldn't flashing a custom AOSP kernel for the One work on the DNA?
yeah some nice s2w like the old cubed kernel so you can do just "back to home" to wake it, its so nice i dont see how ppl dont want it of course unless they have some crazy circumstance like crpalmer just described
but we have a lot of diff roms so something like this would be rather difficult to choose one version of android for this to be implemented on or many kernels, lotta work it seems.
Ask .torrented. He made a s2w kernel a few months ago. He may have a very busy schedule but if enough people ask he may do it.
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Okay, here's a dumb question... Right now we share the AOSP kernel source with the HTC One. Wouldn't flashing a custom AOSP kernel for the One work on the DNA?
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Yeah I Dont think it's that simple unfortunately.
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I don't think one of those kernels would be difficult to port though. I'm just wondering what exactly makes the kernels different, because if you compare the CyanogenMod pages for the DNA and the One, the kernel source link is for the M7 on both of them. I was considering trying to port a kernel myself a while back, but I couldn't find enough information online about it... I think it may be one of those things where if you have enough knowledge of ROM building and git than you just intuitively know how to do it.
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I don't think one of those kernels would be difficult to port though. I'm just wondering what exactly makes the kernels different, because if you compare the CyanogenMod pages for the DNA and the One, the kernel source link is for the M7 on both of them. I was considering trying to port a kernel myself a while back, but I couldn't find enough information online about it... I think it may be one of those things where if you have enough knowledge of ROM building and git than you just intuitively know how to do it.
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Yeah I'm not sure either. If you wanted to give it a run for your money I'm sure palmer would give you some pointers. I would love to see a dt2w kernel!! Lol
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I couldn't resist, I just had to try it. I figured the worst that would happen is I'd have to reflash my ROM. So I flashed the HTC one sti kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507710 it flashed and booted just fine and everything works... None of the s2w dt2w features etc are working but it said it flashed successfully so I'm assuming it's running the kernel... I don't remember what it said in about phone before but it currently shows "3.4.10-CM-gbce7128 Robert @ minty #1."
Edit: yeah I'm pretty sure that's the stock kernel...
It was worth a try right?
@crpalmer would you be willing to give me some pointers on porting or building a kernel? I'm somewhat inexperienced with building, so I don't know if I should bother taking on a task like this.
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Yeah I'm not sure either. If you wanted to give it a run for your money I'm sure palmer would give you some pointers. I would love to see a dt2w kernel!! Lol
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Do not, really, do NOT flash a kernel for a different phone. The Linux kernel is setup to have the same core files across a huge number of devices but then have device specific files. We share the M7 kernel but we have different device specific files. These files control lots of things but the most important is determining what pieces of hardware are given specific voltages, etc.
If you want to try to build my kernel, you should be able to do so fairly easily. Porting the functionality will require some programming knowledge and some knowledge of git. If you think you can do it, let me know and I'll try to give you some first steps on building my kernel.
Porting a M7 kernel to our device might be hard. There is a high probability that they aren't necessarily keeping up-to-date on the changes to our device specific files. You'd have to figure out if they were and, if not, pull in the missing changes.
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Do not, really, do NOT flash a kernel for a different phone. The Linux kernel is setup to have the same core files across a huge number of devices but then have device specific files. We share the M7 kernel but we have different device specific files. These files control lots of things but the most important is determining what pieces of hardware are given specific voltages, etc.
If you want to try to build my kernel, you should be able to do so fairly easily. Porting the functionality will require some programming knowledge and some knowledge of git. If you think you can do it, let me know and I'll try to give you some first steps on building my kernel.
Porting a M7 kernel to our device might be hard. There is a high probability that they aren't necessarily keeping up-to-date on the changes to our device specific files. You'd have to figure out if they were and, if not, pull in the missing changes.
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I wasn't implying anybody should ever flash a kernel not built for this phone.
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coachcrey said:
I wasn't implying anybody should ever flash a kernel not built for this phone.
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My bad. I quoted the wrong post! I just wanted to make sure it was clear that the same source is not the same as safe to flash because we have completely different hardware configuration. So, I guess it was good that I misquoted so that I have a chance to say it a second time!
crpalmer said:
My bad. I quoted the wrong post! I just wanted to make sure it was clear that the same source is not the same as safe to flash because we have completely different hardware configuration. So, I guess it was good that I misquoted so that I have a chance to say it a second time!
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OK right in man. Thanks for all the hard work.
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I guess my post didn't go through... @crpalmer what type of programming knowledge are we taking about? My knowledge is limited to some dsdt editing and supercollider... In other words, I'm definitely not a programmer but I understand the general concepts.
Edit: I'm not too experienced with git either but I have built cm10.1 From the source for my nexus 7 a few just as learning experience.
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Hello, fellow Evo LTE brethren. I have grown weary and quite impatient in waiting for different things to be released (in this case, a custom Sense kernel), so I am going to pick up the torch and try to figure this one out for myself.
Currently, I am updating my Ubuntu base with the required packages, and possibly even a few more that aren't needed or outdated. I'm doing my required readings to learn the ins and outs, and also about the different rules and regulations regarding cherry picking, kanging, tweaking, and the sort.
Any advice/assistance/direction is appreciated, and I will request this thread to be moved to the Dev section when/if it is finally ready for the public, or I might make a new thread, depending on the size of this one.
Just a heads up you will need to fix some stuff to get it to compile. I compiled it and got it booting on sense 6 just need to see if I can get sound and cam working. Will keep you guys up to date with my fixes.
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they released it already
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
liljthatbol said:
they released it already
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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I believe he is talking about building a custom kernel.
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gstanke said:
I believe he is talking about building a custom kernel.
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Indeed, I was. It is noted in the OP as well.
aarsyl said:
I have grown weary and quite impatient in waiting for different things to be released (in this case, a custom Sense kernel)...
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Just a quick update. Kernel building is a lot of reading! I finally got my file paths to straighten out, and I am making progress in building my first kernel. It will only be stock...I need to get it to boot first, then I will worry about other things later.
*Currently trying to understand github.