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H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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Never saw that with my phone. Don't think its normal
pendejerto said:
All of this is normal?
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Kind of if it's new, cycle the battery a few times and it should sort itself out.
Yeah the same thing happens to me. I checked juice plotter and at 2:30 am, I'm fully charged then at 5:00 am, I'm at 70 percent. The it repeats the cycle.
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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That is very odd.. has someone timed how long it takes for the battery to get to 100% Just today I got the please charge now message.. it took 2 hours give or take to get to 100% it maybe you need to cycle the battery. I am using my blackberry 9700 battery charger ( OEM one was left in my hotel room ) The blackberry is output 5VDC and 700mA.
I've noticed that charging the phone using a USB port takes a lot more time that when using an AC/DC adaptor. The USB ports on my PC give out 100 milliamps while the AC/DC adaptor that came with the phone gives out 700 milliamps. Are you charging using a PC USB port or an AC/DC adaptor?
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I've had this happen a few times I plug the phone in at night & when I wake up it's still charging and warm. I now shut my phone off before plugging in the charger & have not had the problem. My guess is some process is running in the background preventing it from properly charging.
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
Phone off worked!
Had a same weird issue after 5 months of usage. First 5 months were fine (needed to charge once every 24 hours). Have noticed in past 2-3 days that when I leave it for chanrging overnight, it does not go to 100%. Sometimes it would go upto 76%, other time 86 and so on. Cannot understand this. Have not installed anything in last 2-3 days either. Do not know the root cause but solution suggested by Phoneguy above worked. That is, I put netwrok setting OFF and then switch my phone OFF. Then I plugin phone to charger and start charging. This way it is getting charged to 100%. Hopefully this workaround will last for another year, at least
zhoustanley said:
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
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Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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This is normal and for Security. When you leave the Phone charging when it has 100 it stops Charging until 90 or something then charge again becouse if it wouldnt do it your Battery will run too hot and could make real damage.
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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The phone actively discharges the battery when plugged in. I've tried the above suggestions and they worked, but only found small success as the battery wouldn't charge past 40%. Now my phone will not boot and the battery is completely drained.
I called SE North America last night and they told me that I broke the battery. I called BS and they then told me that they'll send me a free new battery as a courtesy despite it not being covered in the warranty. Overall, a pretty good experience, but the key point the rep said was to not trickle charge the battery.
I do have a sneaking suspision that it's not the battery because it's only 5 months old, but good because they didn't say anything about the phone not being officially released in the US and not being supported by a warranty.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted as well...lolz.
here it is my graph for the last day, plugged the charger aroung 4pm batt was at 13%, in the office and around 8pm from home, if you see, from 8:44pm to 9:41pm the batt was at 100% an then it goes down and reach 60% at 3am, so it was discharging, and then it tried to charge to reach 100% but couldnt. at 6:30am i woke up and bat was at 78%. so, how can i get it to keep the charge, i dont mind going form 90 to 100 but not going from 100 to 60 and to 100.
anybody can help?
Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.
I decided to replace my 2+ year old Atrix battery with an OEM battery. Since then I can charge to 100% just fine (ran the battery fixing apps and did a wipe battery cache thing) but the battery discharges visibly, like down 4% for a single google search, and gets stuck at 1% for many hours. I used an app to see the voltage and it tops out at 4.2v and levels out at I think 3.5v and dies around 3.2-3v if I remember correctly. Anyway, I just don't know how long the phone will last but it is lasting most of the day. Even turning setcpu off I run for hours with a battery drain app and stay at 1%.
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I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
Wrong section dude
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moderaterain said:
I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
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Okay, the question is what can I do to make the drop more linear rather than going from 100 to 1 in an hour and staying at 1 the rest of the day.
And I've charged discharged half a dozen times with no change.
As you have tried, I don't have better ideas.
I like checking the voltage reading, rather than the percentage value. It usually makes more sense above 3.6V.
Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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I have the EXACT same problem as original poster, and i see my battery dying to 1% within couple of hours, and then remaining on 1% for rest of the day! This is misleading and most of time i have no idea how much more my phone will go on. All this despite the fact that i bought my battery paying 35 bucks to get it directly from Amazon!
Tried doing what Zeljko1234 has said in his post above, but to no avail. The problem remains as it is. Anybody else faced this issue and found a resolution? Will hard reset or rooting help? Appreciate any help
SO the original battery is about 1.5 years old. My phone started dying at strange times and refusing to power on, or dropping from 80% to 10% if it powered on again.
Right now there seems to be a charge in the battery but I can't get the phone to power on at all.
The spare battery seems to work so it is some battery issue, but is it dead or can I revive it or another 6 months?
Everything you've said points to a battery on the way out, and the length of time you've had it does as well. Constantly discharging/charging a battery for 18 mths, gradually reduces the life/reliability of the battery.
Buy a new one/use your spare.
So I managed to get it working again. I tricked it by connecting a extra small battery at the same time. After powering on and disconnecting it three phone seemed to recognize the that there was a battery again 2% charged. I charged the battery with phone off. When I powered in the phone said 12% and I charged it again powered on. It's been holding up for 2 hours of use at 86%. I guess I will just have tip wait and see.
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leapfrogg said:
My phone started dying at strange times and refusing to power on, or dropping from 80% to 10% if it powered on again.
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Could be battery calibration problems... Try to calibrate it. And a lithium ion battery life is expected to be 1-2 years.
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Hi guys,
I want to share to those that may be doesn't know how to extend battery for a little bit.
I have tested this method for months and it works well on my D802 G2.
Here how to do it :
1) when you charging your phone and the battery status shows 100% don't unplug your charger yet
2) touch your charger and if it still hot, don't unplug it
3) you can unplug your charger when it is became cold, on my case, it could took around 15-20 minutes later
See for your self, if it could improve your battery life. For me, it is like having a 110% battery capacity.
For best result
Charge your phone while it is off and battery level not less than 15%
htcm7 said:
Hi guys,
I want to share to those that may be doesn't know how to extend battery for a little bit.
I have tested this method for months and it works well on my D802 G2.
Here how to do it :
1) when you charging your phone and the battery status shows 100% don't unplug your charger yet
2) touch your charger and if it still hot, don't unplug it
3) you can unplug your charger when it is became cold, on my case, it could took around 15-20 minutes later
See for your self, if it could improve your battery life. For me, it is like having a 110% battery capacity.
For best result
Charge your phone while it is off and battery level not less than 15%
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Actually its the trickle charging going on after it reaches 100%
LG G2
jiteshj said:
Actually its the trickle charging going on after it reaches 100%
LG G2
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May be, ... or may be not. There are several tech to charge Lipo battery, and we don't know which tech used in G2.
htcm7 said:
Hi guys,
I want to share to those that may be doesn't know how to extend battery for a little bit.
I have tested this method for months and it works well on my D802 G2.
Here how to do it :
1) when you charging your phone and the battery status shows 100% don't unplug your charger yet
2) touch your charger and if it still hot, don't unplug it
3) you can unplug your charger when it is became cold, on my case, it could took around 15-20 minutes later
See for your self, if it could improve your battery life. For me, it is like having a 110% battery capacity.
For best result
Charge your phone while it is off and battery level not less than 15%
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Yeah, I got it. i saw when i charged my LG G2 over the night, tomorrow its battery decreased very slowly. But sometime i charged it around 9x%, the battery decreased so fast @@
Yeah right.
I'm doing this since still using G Pro,
100 to 99 = Insane
99 - 98 = At least better than normal
98 - 0 = Normal
I use Android Tuner, you can see what your actual charge voltage is and track when it really is full before you unplug.
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This is balderdash.
this is poppycock.
it actually works, noticed it from first week.
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i just leave my charger plugged in. when i go to bed, i plug it in, and 6-7 hours later i unplug it. it trickle charges when it gets to 100% anyway. meaning the charge goes down a little and goes back up a little. yes, i guess this wastes more electricity but it is so minor. also the G2 has a capability that when fully charged at 100%, the voltage of the battery is different, so the battery lasts longer at the 100% mark. once it hits 99%, battery life starts to drop at a normal rate. i read about this in another post on xda, forgot where. it used to take me 25 minutes of watching an HD mkv file at max brightness on mx player to drop from 100 to 99. nowadays it takes 20 minutes.
The best results will be if you charge the phone from PC usb port,charge it at night and take it in the morning.
It sounds good. I'll try it.
Thank you!
For best results charge your phone in the freezer.....
Ok just had too
But this is true ^. LOL @woof123, a slow charge doesn't change a thing with these batteries. Fast charge doesn't even get hot enough to be detrimental. The top 1% idea is indeed true. I'm gonna make a slim refillable liquid nitrogen cartridge to place over battery. Win.
Im not talking about battery degration from fast charging,by charging my phone over the usb i noticed that it lasts longer vs the charger.
Just use greenfiy and the donate version
Hibernate every app besides system Apps.
Nothing will run ever again in background while hibernated.
And yes it works and no the app itself does not cause its own drain.
Greenify is highly noted in every forum across xda
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With these non removable batteries, I'm more concerned with ensuring that I don't harm the battery. I was reading that leaving it charging past 100 percent might shorten its life span. I've been using. Battery full notifier to avoid doing that.
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The general behavior of charging batteries like these is that the first 80% of the actual battery capacity gets charged very quickly (usually takes 1-3 hours) then the last 20% of the battery trickle charges (this also takes another 1-3 hours). I think what's happening here is that the phone itself only reports the first 80% of the actual battery capacity because that's the part that charges quickly, and anything over what the phone reports as "100%" is the last 20% of the actual battery capacity trickle charging.
As for any harm this could bring to the battery, batteries like the one in the LG G2 last longer if you avoid deep discharges (e.g. charging to 100% from 50% at the end of the day versus charging to 100% from 0% after every two days), but it might not even matter since LG Chem's higher end batteries tend to be rated for at least 800 full charge cycles (last year's average smartphones were rated for ~500), which covers over two years of very decent battery performance even if you were to charge from 0 to 100+% battery every day. Even if you use up all these charge cycles, you're still going to be left with ~70-80% battery capacity of the phone you initially bought.
A side note from all this is that any anecdotes of long battery life (where the initial battery percentage reported was 100%) is generally unreliable because it's not conveniently possible to know how much over "100%" the phone's battery has been trickle charged.
My battery life is ridiculously good on this phone anyways...
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It's true, 100-99% yields insane use time, but only if you use an app like Battery Monitor Widget to let you know when the battery has stopped accepting power (+0 mA, voltage ~ 4370 mV). It is also true though that this reduces overall battery health a little (it might become noticeable if you do this all the time).
And btw, charging overnight is a very bad idea.
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