[Q]Hboot 1.58 questions... - HTC EVO 3D

I'm ultimately trying to run Jellybean on my phone, with maybe the option of some overclocking...
I'm seeing ALOT of guides, and they tell me that I want Hboot 1.4, S-off, and Revolutionary. Just to be clear, I have no flipping clue to what these are, all I know is that the guides I'm reading tell me I want them.
My Sprint HTC Evo 3D which I only think is CDMA, is on Android 4.0.3, with Hboot 1.58, has twrp 1.1.1 recovery flashed, and is rooted, and I do have a recovery backup from when my phone wasn't rooted.
Out of all the guides I read, I want to avoid any "wire tricks" I wanna go the Live CD way, except that I dont know if I can burn a Live CD to a dvd or not, and I don't know which guide to follow because apparently they all have different versions, and apparently this process is so picky, that I can't do it on usb 3.0.
Just want your opinion (and link) of the best, safest or easiest guide to start on.

i didnt want to do the wire trick at all either but it is soo easy to do and is easier than you think. It will take about 5 minutes max to follow a few instructions and be S-off, then install hboot 1.4 or 1.5 as either will work with the roms you find here. Most will recommend eng hboot 1.04 as a lot of devs use that, it is up to you what you want to use. Hboot install is very easy as all you do is rename the file to PG86IMG and reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846. Just follow the link and easy instructions, this phone is hard to brick so dont worry. if it was high risk then there would not be so many people with S-off this way

Tazlo73 said:
i didnt want to do the wire trick at all either but it is soo easy to do and is easier than you think. It will take about 5 minutes max to follow a few instructions and be S-off, then install hboot 1.4 or 1.5 as either will work with the roms you find here. Most will recommend eng hboot 1.04 as a lot of devs use that, it is up to you what you want to use. Hboot install is very easy as all you do is rename the file to PG86IMG and reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846. Just follow the link and easy instructions, this phone is hard to brick so dont worry. if it was high risk then there would not be so many people with S-off this way
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I don't want to, but more importantly, can't do the wire trick.
The link you gave me links to the guide that is SPECIFIC in a few key details I can't do. For one, The guide mentions to use Ubuntu 64 bit version, and specifically says USB3 ports wont work. Well my older computer with USB2 ports doesn't support 64-bit systems, and my laptop that does support 64-bit systems only has USB3 ports. I know you usually expect most computers or laptops to have 1-3 USB3 ports and the rest USB2, but mine is all USB3.
I also don't have the original HTC cable. I bought this thing off ebay.
Also the guide mentions that i need to have stock ruu, I don't even know what that is, and the guide doesn't have a download for it. I actually originally wrote that I didn't know what roms or kernals even were, or what this revolutionary or s-off even is. I edited that out of my 1st post because i thought i should just leave the basics.
I guess the unfortunate thing about rooting, unlocking, and flashing android devices is that all the guides have different things... I never had to do all this junk with these ruu's, s-offs, hboots, revolutionaries, linuxes, wire tricks, and so-on with a GT1, Lenovo Thinkpad, or Nexus 7.
Everytime I get a new android device, it's like I have to relearn a totally new process. completely different from what I knew.

Different devices use different security features and require different ways around the blocks and every time a new version of android more exploits are patched and new ones need to be found. It's a constant battle between the manufacturer and the enthusiasts. That said I'm s-off hboot 1.4 and I never did any wire tricks.. I did have to brick my device though... In a specific way
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I used htcdev.com to unlock and j-bear to soff, which I did on my win7 pc. I used a wire cable from an ethernet cable to do the wire trick when the program told me to. I'll double check the link.

Tazlo73 said:
I used htcdev.com to unlock and j-bear to soff, which I did on my win7 pc. I used a wire cable from an ethernet cable to do the wire trick when the program told me to. I'll double check the link.
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Your "Win7 pc" according to that guide, was an Ubuntu PC when you tried to downgrade your Hboot. Because you were booting from the CD and not your harddrive, Windows 7 played no factor in the process. What did matter was your processor. Even if you're using a processor that supports 64 bit systems, then your Windows 7 could be 64-bit or 32-bit. But if your processor supports 32-bit only, then you can only properly run windows 7 32 bit version.
The guide strictly called for Ubuntu 64-bit. Despite what version of Windows 7 you're running, I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say that your computer you used didn't have an outdated AMD processor from 2005. Even if the computer was sold in 2005, it can run even Windows 8, as long as it's 32 bit.
My understanding of computers and the guide is my old computer's technology can't support a 64-bit system, and my new computer's technology doesn't have old usb technology.
I'll shut my mouth and do the guide if your processor supports 32 bit systems only, or if someone can tell me using a USB 2.0 HUB on a USB 3.0 port will retard my usb3 port to usb2 standards.

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[Q] S-Off On Mac

Hi,
Ive been meaning to S-Off my HTC ReZound in order to RUU back to Stock and hopefully get a replacement phone due to some issues. I only have a Macbook Pro but I do have Parallel 7 installed running Windows 8 Release Preview. I also have the necessary Fastboot and ABD files to HTCdev unlock and run commands. I just want to know how I can go about S-Off-ing my device, if possible, on my Mac
The follow is what my phone is currently at/running. Some detailed instructions on how to would be much appreciated. Thanks
S-ON
Unlock via HTCdev Unlock
CleanROM Developer Edition 1.2
HBOOT- 2.21.0000
Radio- 1.22.10.0310r/1.22.10.0308r
Build Number- 3.11.605.22 CL339740 release-keys
http://unlimited.io
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http://unlimited.io
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Yea I read all that, wondering which download/rom to use and if I'm on a correct firmware..
Looks like you're on ICS with 2.21 HBOOT. Get the ICS version...
This is an older thread but I'm reviving it as a mac user. I just recently got my (very old) original Intel imac back from my inlaws as they upgraded to a refurbished mac. The screen is going, and it can't be upgraded anymore to a higher OS as is not a Core Duo 2 chip. Anyway, as I don't have space to partition my Mac Air (yes I'm a Mac fanboy, but iphone hater) I used to have bootcamp on the old iMac and used to run windows XP on it. Back then I was first transitioning to Mac, so I wasn't going cold turkey. I'm windows free and have been for a while. Long story....getting to the point here, if I can find my old XP disc, I can reinstall Windows on it. Is it possible to S-off with Unlimited's Juopunutbear with XP? Again, I've been out of the Windows game for a while, so give me slap if I sound silly. I'm about ready to get this thing S-off and do the ROM thing again (Darn I miss the ease of my Dinc). My phone crapped out the other day and I was stuck on a white HTC screen, so I had to relock and run the global RUU again. But I'd like to try roms on the stock firmware, and with the most recent release, I'm sure some Roms might be built from that too.
Sugarhill, I may have missed it but was your rezound previously s-off? I only ask because you do not have to re s-off ever if your rez was s-off before. Unless you flashed a non engineering bootloader and ran the lock command from fastboot.
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wildstang83 said:
Sugarhill, I may have missed it but was your rezound previously s-off? I only ask because you do not have to re s-off ever if your rez was s-off before. Unless you flashed a non engineering bootloader and ran the lock command from fastboot.
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No Stang, I was never S-off on my Rezound. I'm a Mac only household, and my work computer (windows...and I barely use it) cannot download or install stuff without administrator privileges so I've never been able to S-off. I'd like to, and with the reaquisition of my old iMac, it has been previously licensed to run my copy of Windows XP on it through apple's bootcamp program.
I miss my dinc and getting your rooted versions of updates for it.
318sugarhill said:
No Stang, I was never S-off on my Rezound. I'm a Mac only household, and my work computer (windows...and I barely use it) cannot download or install stuff without administrator privileges so I've never been able to S-off. I'd like to, and with the reaquisition of my old iMac, it has been previously licensed to run my copy of Windows XP on it through apple's bootcamp program.
I miss my dinc and getting your rooted versions of updates for it.
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Ah ok, gotcha. Well even if it an older mac, how about just install Ubuntu on it and use the linux version of j bear's s-off? I don't really know if thats possible, but I do know the s-off does support ubuntu, I just don't know if it supports XP...
Yeah either install Ubuntu or find a copy of windows from the zeraw mart
AshtonTS said:
Yeah either install Ubuntu or find a copy of windows from the zeraw mart
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I don't know what Ubuntu is or the zebras mart
318sugarhill said:
I don't know what Ubuntu is or the zebras mart
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Well then, let me be the first to introduce you to a whole new world of linux, by way of the flavor we all know as Ubuntu.
Download, burn to disk or thumb drive and install. Real easy
wildstang83 said:
Well then, let me the first to introduce you to a whole new world of linux, by way of the flavor we all know as Ubuntu.
Download, burn to disk or thumb drive and install. Real easy
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I just googled it. Looks like I just found something to do this weekend. How come on all these why can't I on a Mac threads does no one mention you can run Ubuntu from a disk?
318sugarhill said:
I don't know what Ubuntu is or the zebras mart
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Read zeraw backwards
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AshtonTS said:
Read zeraw backwards
Sent from my Nexus 4
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I know you're trying to help me, but I'm just not getting it. Still no idea what you're saying. Just read an article about somebody dual booting Ubuntu 12.04 on an original intel imac just fine. So I'm going to try that this weekend, and see if I can't finally get this thing S-off. I used to try Roms left and right on my Dinc. While I use my phone now more than ever during the day than I did back then, I won't be able to change quite so often, but some of the Roms I've looked into seem pretty awesome.

Things to consider for LazyPanda and Post 475

Hey guys and gals I want to share some of the experiences I had when I unlocked, bricked, unbricked and finally S-Off my EVO LTE. Hopefully this will help when you want to attempt LazyPanda's S-Off. Sorry if this post is in wrong area.
First, this is my first post on the site, please be kind. I hope what I say will help some folks. Second, I love this site and love all the Dev's for what they do. Thanks for your dedication. :highfive: Third, I am no pro at this but I have been around programers and engineers and have learned from breaking things and fixing them. All I am stating here is my experience and ideas with getting my phone and a buddy's phone to be S-Off. I read as much as I could before this. Hopefully I didn't repeat anything that was already said.
Now down to what I am posting. If you aren't familiar with Post 475 I would get familiar with it because it is the best steps to prepare your computer for a chance to achieve S-Off without bricking your phone on a Windows platform. Though a couple extra things should be mentioned.
1. It is mentioned to back up your SD card and I definitely suggest doing that. But what I really want to stress, that someone else did mention on the S-Off LazyPanda thread (forgot who), is MAKE SURE THE PHONE FORMATS THE CARD BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT to use LazyPanda. I would just use a freshly blank, formatted by the phone SD card. Even if you use a back up SD card you want it to be blank and formatted by the phone before you use LazyPanda. I do want to mention I did noticed that the internal storage on the phone does not get touched but I would still back up whatever you want on it just in case yours does get erased. Can do this in recovery by mounting the internal storage instead of SD storage using TWRP. I don't think there is anything on the Play Store to back up the internal storage yet (not really sure).
2. If you can I would recommend not using LazyPanda on Windows if at all possible. I do think it would be better to use LazyPanda on Linux and not windows for a couple reasons. 1. From my understanding Android uses a similar, if not the same, shell (I believe that what it is called) on Linux. 2. I am 95% sure the creators of LazyPanda used Linux too and then just ported it over to Windows. Knowing that it would be better to use Linux to fully root your phone because of compatibility all the way around. Which could be one of the reasons people are getting bricked. (edit: I recall someone mentioning the previous sentences but do not remember who or where. He was on to something. lol) But if you don't have that option and have to use Windows to root, I would follow all the instructions on post 475 and unlimited.io down to every letter.
Just to verify what I did and used, I followed post 475 and unlimited.io (LazyPanda) instructions, when using LazyPanda on Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP-1, to the "T" each time and failed each time. I installed the drivers listed on unlimited.io (HTC drivers 3.0.0.007). I installed the Android SDK Tools, Platform-tools and the Google USB driver Revision 6. No other HTC programs or drivers where installed ever on this machine. I made sure the phone can communicate with the adb utility in the bootloader and with ICS fully loaded with debug on, fast boot off, and the phone "settled". Nothing else was using any other USB port. I ended all programs I thought that would poll the USB ports (like Logitech stuff). Anti-virus was turned off for the entire time. I did not flash any ROMs, expect TWRP and SuperSU were auto flashed when I unlocked the bootloaders using regaw_leinad's method, so it was a stock ROM each attempt. I did not take the OTA so the Hboot for each phone were 1.12.0000 and the build number was 1.13.something. I ran LazyPanda in windows 3 times to get S-Off and each time it "soft" bricked my phone. But the moment I ran the Linux script it worked flawlessly. I ran LazyPanda on Linux with my buddies phone too and it work flawlessly on the first try. Of course when I had to unbrick the phone I used the only method possible. I created a dual boot when I installed Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. Once I got it running I updated the OS and installed the 32-bit library. You can still use a live CD (USB drive) to run Linux. I wanted to install Linux so I can start getting to know the OS and all the commands in the future.
It could just be a coincidence that I got my buddies phone to work on the first try or it could be something useful to know. Hopefully this helps someone in the future. Good luck with rooting your phone and most of all keep your cool if you do brick your phone.
Great first post! Welcome to the community!

I need help with downgrading....please

First
I am not new to rooting, I have rooted every android phone I owned.
MY phone is rooted, but when me and my girl got our 3D's mine was hb1.4 hers is 1.5
I understand the procees completely.
My problem is I cannot get the hboot tool kit to boot from CD.
I changed my cpu to boot from cd drive but it goes back to windows.
I use parted magic alot so I know how to boot from a cd.
This is the last step I need, I need help booting this disc
Ive tried 2 methods:
Burning the actual iso
and extracting the iso via power iso and then burning the containing files.
Neither worked.
Windows 7 home edition 64 bit.
thx in advance
kharyb said:
First
I am not new to rooting, I have rooted every android phone I owned.
MY phone is rooted, but when me and my girl got our 3D's mine was hb1.4 hers is 1.5
I understand the procees completely.
My problem is I cannot get the hboot tool kit to boot from CD.
I changed my cpu to boot from cd drive but it goes back to windows.
I use parted magic alot so I know how to boot from a cd.
This is the last step I need, I need help booting this disc
Ive tried 2 methods:
Burning the actual iso
and extracting the iso via power iso and then burning the containing files.
Neither worked.
Windows 7 home edition 64 bit.
thx in advance
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have you considered doing Juopunutbear s-off wire trick, it works and is way easier. you can downgrade to 1.4 by flashing the hboot and maintain root and s-off right after if you need to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846
This would be my recommendation much easier and faster works great on hboot 1.5
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Now, when u say u set your CPU to boot from CD u mean u changed the boot order in BIOS, right?
Also, I personally haven't done the wire method but I have yet to hear any1 complain about it,so why not give it a go?
If you still want to go with the live CD, why don't you make a bootable flash drive? it'd save you a couple CDs and you could avoid having to rely on an optical drive

[Q] Most Basic Root

Sorry to ask such a noob question, but I am having trouble sifting through al my options here. I have rooted a couple phones, early d-incs, and a nook, I am just looking for the most basic root operation for dinc 4glte so that I can access the hotspot feature. I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. also I was about to start going through the dirtyRacun s-off but was scared off by the warning about revoking support for windows. I have a linux notebook, is it better to use that OS for rooting, in general? thanks.
binalith said:
Sorry to ask such a noob question, but I am having trouble sifting through al my options here. I have rooted a couple phones, early d-incs, and a nook, I am just looking for the most basic root operation for dinc 4glte so that I can access the hotspot feature. I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. also I was about to start going through the dirtyRacun s-off but was scared off by the warning about revoking support for windows. I have a linux notebook, is it better to use that OS for rooting, in general? thanks.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214653
binalith said:
..I was about to start going through the dirtyRacun s-off but was scared off by the warning about revoking support for windows. I have a linux notebook, is it better to use that OS for rooting, in general? thanks.
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The reason for yanking windows support was due to the flaky nature of the windows drivers, depending on windows version for this phone. Originally, unlimited.io supported Windows XP only, but people kept trying it on Windows 7, or Windows 8, etc. My guess is they got fed up with people ignoring the simple instruction of using Windows XP.
If you're comfortable with Linux, you'll be fine with DirtyRacun. Its quite painless and does not require giving HTC your serial number (buried in the token) to unlock the bootloader. However, make sure you're still on the "proper" software build version (2.17.605.2 or earlier). No telling what will happen if you're on the latest OTA...

[Q] 2+ yr old Hboot 1.58 EVO 3D ROOT/CONVERT !!!HELP!!!

I have an old EVO 3D i want to use as an mp3/media player and camera. Problem is I'm having a hard time rooting it so I can get the pre-installed apps off it. I tried the one guide off here, but either the HTC Sync manager could find my phone, some of the tools required for the root don't work with my phone (HBOOT 1.58) or they are gone/changed. The steps involved seem more complicated than it should. Any way this can be fixed?
Depends alot on how you want to do things.
Check to see if hboot says; locked, unlocked, or relocked. If locked you will need to go to htcdev website to get unlock token and see how to unlock. Unlocked hboot lets you install custom recovery, from which you can install su. If it says relocked, all you have to do is send fastboot command to unlock, phone has unlock token already.
It sounds like you are using windows, newer then xp, which you will need to find drivers :and fixes to get phone to connect.
I would use ubuntu, linux, no need for drivers and can run from flash drive. Or windows xp, anything newer has usb issues.
Sent from my DOWNGRADED EVO 3D
this is what i get from the revolutionary exe:
PG86100 (shooter-1.58.0000, Android:4.0.3, ROM version: 2.95.651.6)
not supported
this is the Tool 0.4pre4
doesn't say locked or anything else at all really. how would i find out if it's locked or not?
turn phone off, pull battery, to ensure full power down. Put battery back. Press and hold vol. down button, then press power button.
Read this for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
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It says LOCKED. so where do I go from here?
You unlock, or s-off.
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I put together an easy(easy as it gets) guide for s-off'ing your CDMA Ev03d with hboot 1.5x
the process is a little more complicated for 1.5x hboot phones due to revolutionary s-off not supporting any version newer than 1.4. And don't bother with unlocking with the token retrieval / HTcdev.com mess. It won't work with hboot 1.58. besides you will not have the full benefit of S-off with just unlocked phone
So you must brick the phone, then plug into linux terminal and and run recovery tool which will downgrade the hboot to 1.4 and the main version to 0.01. Then flash the main version to 1.13 by running a RUU exe. After that, you may run revolutionary s-off and you're rooted. Run the latest RUU and you are done and back on main version 2.95(after system updates) with hboot 1.58 and S-OFF, fully rooted
Things you'll need:
blank CD and burner, know how to boot from a CD
data USB cable
Micro-sd adapter so you can put files directly on your micro-sd from your PC
All summarized in my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
Good luck
okay
could ya explain all that to in a way that even a noob like me can understand?
Cieran said:
could ya explain all that to in a way that even a noob like me can understand?
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Without some basic tech know-how, you're going to have a bad time
Your Hboot 1.58 needs to be downgraded to 1.40(the dirty way) before you can run revolutionary S-OFF.
Things you'll need:
Linux live boot disk/USB, trial version
USB data cable
Micro-sd adapter so you can put files on your micro-sd from your PC
All summarized in my post here in the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
This isn't completely true. You can soff on hboot 1.58. It's been done many times and I did it myself.
This guide is pretty straight forward and geared exactly toward your situation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
Otto, how's it going? , I know your situation sucked. It happens for some people, but it's not the case that everyone on 1.58 has to go through it. Most people can just go with juopunutbear s-off. It's usually when there's a phone repair and the motherboard had been swapped. It causes a mismatch in firmware with no option to run an ruu.
Brian706 said:
This isn't completely true. You can soff on hboot 1.58. It's been done many times and I did it myself.
This guide is pretty straight forward and geared exactly toward your situation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
Otto, how's it going? , I know your situation sucked. It happens for some people, but it's not the case that everyone on 1.58 has to go through it. Most people can just go with juopunutbear s-off. It's usually when there's a phone repair and the motherboard had been swapped. It causes a mismatch in firmware with no option to run an ruu.
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Oh yeah you could do that! Though I am totally unfamiliar with the juopunutbear, I was under the impression that it was for GSM only
I recently walked another user through rooting their sprint 1.58 hboot with success with brick/downgrade, though unknownforce's ultimate.zip did not work for them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-evo-3d/cdma-development/help-root-unlock-t2829008

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