Thought this was worth sharing
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1957339277/run-android-apps-in-webos-on-the-hp-touchpad
I don't see the point in paying $30 to emulate android apps in an abandoned OS, when you can run android apps natively in a supported OS for free...
Take your point, but Webos is (in my view) pretty slick. The only thing missing is the apps.
Thanks for posting OP. I might just hang on to my HPTP, instead of selling it on.
Maxy
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looks like they met their goal.
The only thing going for Android for me are the apps. If the apps work well enough emulated in webOS, then I will be keeping my HP Touchpad!
30 dollars is still very expensive under my point of view...i hope people wont be dissapointed when the app will be released.
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30 dollars is still very expensive under my point of view...i hope people wont be dissapointed when the app will be released.
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Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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I see your point...but what i meant when i said i hope people wont be dissapointed, its because im afraid that the user experience with that software will never be close to what you can have with native android. The videos they posted shows pretty simple applications, and even there you can see there is a bit of lag....i hope people wont spend 30$ on this and then they will have to switch to android if they want to play games or use some other app that is too laggy on the webos side. But dont get me wrong, im the first one that would love to play android apps on webos, mostly because of the battery as you said, but not in exchange of a poor user experience like lags etc...
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Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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After I fixed the standby battery drain, I tested and got 21 days of standby time. This fix is included in the latest available CM9 and CM10.
Note that this was with (practically) no apps installed. So adding apps that wakeup the TP will decrease that time, but it's MUCH improved.
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After I fixed the standby battery drain, I tested and got 21 days of standby time. This fix is included in the latest available CM9 and CM10.
Note that this was with (practically) no apps installed. So adding apps that wakeup the TP will decrease that time, but it's MUCH improved.
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I've uninstalled as many apps as I don't think I NEED. Also, did you run with location services on? I turned off syncing for basically everything to try and see if I can get better battery life.
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I've uninstalled as many apps as I don't think I NEED. Also, did you run with location services on? I turned off syncing for basically everything to try and see if I can get better battery life.
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I don't remember if location services was on or off. Probably off.
I suggest reading through this thread: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39743-touchpad-battery-drain-issues-how-flashing-a6-firmware-can-help/
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I don't remember if location services was on or off. Probably off.
I suggest reading through this thread: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39743-touchpad-battery-drain-issues-how-flashing-a6-firmware-can-help/
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Believe me... I lived in that thread for a period of time. Is that something that will get baked into the rom going forward so we don't have to worry about reflashing it periodically?
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Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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I have been using Greenify to help nail down the programs that wake the system all the time and my battery life has improved even more.
This capability in WebOS might be good if it is fully supported by the application developers or a way to work around the unsupported hardware issue. At this point there has been a bunch of development in CM for Touchpad and not really a need for WebOS especially without the core updates and support we are getting from Android/Google.
ACL Pre release
There have been delays to this project, but the pre-release beta is now in the hands of testers.
Reports are mixed, but generally positive. Problems mainly involve installation issues, but generally it is being reported to work quite well.
forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-51.html#post3404690
webOS with Android apps seems to have (almost) arrived.
Yep, heard about these recents updates from a post from jshafer817:
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Anyone seen this?
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-58.html
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Seems promising :highfive:
When is this damn app getting released!! I really love using WebOS and running Android apps in it would be perfect.
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OK, I have written an app to attempt and stop call wonkyness on CM7 builds. Specifically the phone locking up when making and receiving calls.
It's my observation that it's the mic that causes the phone to lock up and so this app opens and closes the mic every minute to keep it "fresh". It's a long shot, but I can't seem to duplicate wonkyness with it enabled so I'm posting it for other to try.
Now after a few positive comments to help boost my confidence in the app, I've made it's own thread to make it easy to track comments.
Just install and run (or just reboot as it auto-start on boot). To disable, uninstall it.
Please post your results!
Change Log:
Version 1.4
Made service more persistent by adding notification bar. Turns out, Android was killing off the service when memory was running low causing wonk to surface.
Version 1.3
Can only be installed on internal memory. Needed to make sure the service can started up on boot. (Thanks to mjukis for pointing this out)
Version 1.2
Only dewonkificates when screen is off to avoid conflicts with any apps you may be using.
Removed debug logging
[Post edited because the wonkyness is still there and this .apk works fine to fix it]
Dude.... As best as I can tell in 20 minutes' time, this damn thing seems to actually work! Gotta tell ya how skeptical I was....but I'm pretty flippin' pleased right now!
Good looking out!!
Much appreciated for this app.
While it's still too early to say it's 100% working, so far so good.
I have had the wonk since build 3 to 23 (except for 16).
I will keep testing and report back often.
That's great news and I'm happy that it looks like it's working for people. I was on the edge of rolling back and this was a desperate attempt to fix it.
Agree with the op. Can't say for sure its the miracle I've been waiting for... but 4 calls in (admittedly 2 from myself, ) no wonks. When I'd expect all to be wonky
If this 'wonklessisity' continues you will surely become supreme ruler of xda!
Will report back soon.
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That's great news and I'm happy that it looks like it's working for people. I was on the edge of rolling back and this was a desperate attempt to fix it.
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What are your thoughts and battery impact?....and would some timeframe greater or less than 1 min. factor in??
Does this fix it?
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,2642
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Does this fix it?
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,2642
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No, that's a different problem.
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What are your thoughts and battery impact?....and would some timeframe greater or less than 1 min. factor in??
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
I also believe it have something to do with the mic, since all apps that use it have the same freeze, and it seems to work for me. Thanks
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
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Seems reasonable enough, to me.
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
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Maybe watchdog would be a better app for checking. Would give us a better idea of CPU use. Also juice plotter may help see prior and after install battery consumption
I've tested it,and havent got any wongkiness for today. I think its working...
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Got source?
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Got source?
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Added to the OP
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gracias!
You deserve an E-Cookie for coming up with such an awesome name
Wonky just visited me when my wife called. Installed your dewonky app for testing.
Thanks.
This bug is the reason I got off CM7 nightlies, so damn annoying. Maybe this is a Gingerbread thing rather than a Nexus S problem cause the Nexus S is supposed to be rebooting itself while in calls as I'm sure everyone knows.
Does this app drain anyone's battery and make it really hot? Is it just me? I googled around and see this for other devices but can't find any info for this device.
Yes. That was the first app I killed as soon as I could. Not sure what the deal is with it specifically but it was always running and keeping the cpu heated.
alright thanks for the info, its a pretty nice game tho [;
WWF was one of the first battery drainers identified in Entropy's Known Identified Battery draining apps thread in the General Forum.
That said, as long as you don't sit staring at the screen trying to find a word for extended periods of time, and set it's polling times down to 30 minutes or an hour, it doesn't eat that much battery. I can still get idle deep sleep percentages in the low to mid 90's with it installed and set on 1 hour polling.
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WWF was one of the first battery drainers identified in Entropy's Known Identified Battery draining apps thread in the General Forum.
That said, as long as you don't sit staring at the screen trying to find a word for extended periods of time, and set it's polling times down to 30 minutes or an hour, it doesn't eat that much battery. I can still get idle deep sleep percentages in the low to mid 90's with it installed and set on 1 hour polling.
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I might have to fire it back up and try it again. I did like the game a lot. I thought I'd tried setting the polling pretty high but maybe I didn't. Maybe I can get my word addiction back on...
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I might have to fire it back up and try it again. I did like the game a lot. I thought I'd tried setting the polling pretty high but maybe I didn't. Maybe I can get my word addiction back on...
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WordFeud is a much nicer alternative - just doesn't have an iphone app or web interface so it makes cross platform gaming tough. If you are only playing with other android users, you might try to get them to switch...
is get around 90-85% with about an hour of music/a bit of texting here and there. from about 7 am to 2:30 am. is that good, without words with friends installed ofc.
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WordFeud is a much nicer alternative - just doesn't have an iphone app or web interface so it makes cross platform gaming tough. If you are only playing with other android users, you might try to get them to switch...
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Wordfeud does have an IOS app, I play it on my iPad all the time when I'm at home. It runs as an iPhone app upscaled, but it still is easier to read than on the phone most of the time. I prefer Wordfeud over WWF, but my wife likes WWF, so I'm stuck with both...link to the IOS version below (yeah yeah yeah, I know this is an Android phone/forum. But guess what...I don't really care).
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wordfeud/id428312806?mt=8
Craine
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Wordfeud does have an IOS app, I play it on my iPad all the time when I'm at home. It runs as an iPhone app upscaled, but it still is easier to read than on the phone most of the time. I prefer Wordfeud over WWF, but my wife likes WWF, so I'm stuck with both...link to the IOS version below (yeah yeah yeah, I know this is an Android phone/forum. But guess what...I don't really care).
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wordfeud/id428312806?mt=8
Craine
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Wow - Craine thank you very much. I've been stuck in WWF land for so long now (due to all my iphone using friends) that I didn't know WF had put out an iOS app. Guess I have my work cut out for me getting everyone to switch over now!
This app had sucked since the day it came out. Just boggles my mind that it continues to be more popular than word feud
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karth500 said:
This app had sucked since the day it came out. Just boggles my mind that it continues to be more popular than word feud
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i think its because it simply looks fancier.
Bling always wins in a battle
The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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quachhanthanh said:
I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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titanium back up
Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
LG G2 VS980 (VZW)
jesssiii said:
Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
LG G2 VS980 (VZW)
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.
I'm seriously contemplating selling my buggy creaky note 3 and dropping down to a z2. Problem is I'm a cm addict. I know they recently started supporting the z2,and as it has the same size batter as the note 3 but with a smaller screen, I should expect similar or better battery life right?
Other alternative is just to run a custom launcher, but I've invested so much in cm11 themes that it'd be throwing money away. Don't really care much for camera features or stamina mode.
Any insight would be appreciated. I'd also expect it to be quite unstable on the device due to only 1 stable build currently being available.
There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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I've never really felt the need for greenify, but had no idea about the custom cm kernel! Thanks for the info, will check it out right away.
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I've never really felt the need for greenify, but had no idea about the custom cm kernel! Thanks for the info, will check it out right away.
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Ya even I saw that kernel yesterday, M5 or something, looking forward to install it this weekend
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There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
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You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
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Yup. I've only even had 1 battery saving app and that was on my ancient s2. Every phone since seep sleeps 99% of the time with Google spyware services turned off.
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You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
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So what, you expect people not to install anything on their phones, I should just leave my phone clean shall I? No quip to sync notes between me and my business partner, no email to reply to customers, no kik to talk to my girl, no feeds to catch up on the news, no games to play when I'm waiting or traveling, no music player to listen to music on a 15+ mile ride?
There is every need for apps like greenify and ds battery saver amongst the many others out there, it's much more convenient then disabling everything, or having to manually check and ending up missing something important because it slips your mind. Admittedly I've not used ds battery saver just greenify in a while but thats not the point.
If there was no need for them they wouldn't bloody exist in the first place would they so get off your high horse and move on from your delusions.
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So what, you expect people not to install anything on their phones, I should just leave my phone clean shall I? No quip to sync notes between me and my business partner, no email to reply to customers, no kik to talk to my girl, no feeds to catch up on the news, no games to play when I'm waiting or traveling, no music player to listen to music on a 15+ mile ride?
There is every need for apps like greenify and ds battery saver amongst the many others out there, it's much more convenient then disabling everything, or having to manually check and ending up missing something important because it slips your mind. Admittedly I've not used ds battery saver just greenify in a while but thats not the point.
If there was no need for them they wouldn't bloody exist in the first place would they so get off your high horse and move on from your delusions.
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I've heard that his horse is Hasufel or Arod.
Haha I'd be more impressed if it was blinky
Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
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Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
iBolski said:
One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
corz123 said:
good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
corz123 said:
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
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Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
iBolski said:
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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jfriend33 said:
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.