I'm seriously contemplating selling my buggy creaky note 3 and dropping down to a z2. Problem is I'm a cm addict. I know they recently started supporting the z2,and as it has the same size batter as the note 3 but with a smaller screen, I should expect similar or better battery life right?
Other alternative is just to run a custom launcher, but I've invested so much in cm11 themes that it'd be throwing money away. Don't really care much for camera features or stamina mode.
Any insight would be appreciated. I'd also expect it to be quite unstable on the device due to only 1 stable build currently being available.
There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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I've never really felt the need for greenify, but had no idea about the custom cm kernel! Thanks for the info, will check it out right away.
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I've never really felt the need for greenify, but had no idea about the custom cm kernel! Thanks for the info, will check it out right away.
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Ya even I saw that kernel yesterday, M5 or something, looking forward to install it this weekend
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There's about 10 builds, all stable, battery life is excellent, pair that with deep sleep battery saver, greenify and the new custom cm kernel that's just been released and your on to a winner
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You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
GiGi. said:
You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
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Yup. I've only even had 1 battery saving app and that was on my ancient s2. Every phone since seep sleeps 99% of the time with Google spyware services turned off.
GiGi. said:
You should not be needing anything like a "deep sleep battery save" or greenify on a clean and stable system, period.
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So what, you expect people not to install anything on their phones, I should just leave my phone clean shall I? No quip to sync notes between me and my business partner, no email to reply to customers, no kik to talk to my girl, no feeds to catch up on the news, no games to play when I'm waiting or traveling, no music player to listen to music on a 15+ mile ride?
There is every need for apps like greenify and ds battery saver amongst the many others out there, it's much more convenient then disabling everything, or having to manually check and ending up missing something important because it slips your mind. Admittedly I've not used ds battery saver just greenify in a while but thats not the point.
If there was no need for them they wouldn't bloody exist in the first place would they so get off your high horse and move on from your delusions.
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So what, you expect people not to install anything on their phones, I should just leave my phone clean shall I? No quip to sync notes between me and my business partner, no email to reply to customers, no kik to talk to my girl, no feeds to catch up on the news, no games to play when I'm waiting or traveling, no music player to listen to music on a 15+ mile ride?
There is every need for apps like greenify and ds battery saver amongst the many others out there, it's much more convenient then disabling everything, or having to manually check and ending up missing something important because it slips your mind. Admittedly I've not used ds battery saver just greenify in a while but thats not the point.
If there was no need for them they wouldn't bloody exist in the first place would they so get off your high horse and move on from your delusions.
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I've heard that his horse is Hasufel or Arod.
Haha I'd be more impressed if it was blinky
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
poch_1421 said:
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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chalid said:
I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
Uamore6 said:
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.
I flashed CM9 on my GSII on Friday and ever since it's had 5-6 hours on usage. I've tried doing the battery calibration stuff, seemed to be better Monday and today it had 50% after a few hours of gaming so that seemed normal but then i reset it and it dropped down to 10%. I tried calibrating again and still 5 hours.
I've been using that Battery Calibration app and it game me 40% charge at ~3500mV. I'm not sure whether that is the battery volume but seeing as 100% was 4200mV something seems wrong.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Ten million exact same posts .
Read thye battery FAQS .
Start with Better Battery Stats threa d and wakelocks .
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Is a ICS problem. Drains much battery.-
Now i have a slim ICS + n.e.a.k. kernel, and have great perfomance.-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536783
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576355
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Is a ICS problem. Drains much battery.-
Now i have a slim ICS + n.e.a.k. kernel, and have great perfomance.-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536783
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It isn't ICS, i flashed it on a friends GSII at the same time and his last 1-2 days like usual.
i´m test ics roms, and have much differences between them.-
maybe the kernel makes the difference.-
But is a fact that GB has better battery management, that ICS
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i´m test ics roms, and have much differences between them.-
maybe the kernel makes the difference.-
But is a fact that GB has better battery management, that ICS
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I have an LG GT540 as well with ICS on it and that would get 8 hours regular usage with it. My GS2 get's less then that without me using it.
Ok you compare with other device, i Spoken to Galaxy s2, Ics have bad battery management, in sleep mode.-
But I´m still test the slim rom with neal kernel and have 53% battery after 30hs. with a general purpose.-
try it this rom an kernel,.-
As was already pointed out, bad battery life is almost always a rogue app keeping the phone awake, install Better Battery Stats and CPU Spy to monitor wake locks and deep sleep, if you find a problem with an app keeping your phone awake, uninstall it and your problem will likely go away. Personally, I've been running CM9 and other variants of ICS for months and I get less than 1% per hour of drain while the screen is off and the phone is asleep, this is better than Gingerbread was.
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As was already pointed out, bad battery life is almost always a rogue app keeping the phone awake, install Better Battery Stats and CPU Spy to monitor wake locks and deep sleep, if you find a problem with an app keeping your phone awake, uninstall it and your problem will likely go away. Personally, I've been running CM9 and other variants of ICS for months and I get less than 1% per hour of drain while the screen is off and the phone is asleep, this is better than Gingerbread was.
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I am curious - is this during the day with full sync going and data always on as well?
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I am curious - is this during the day with full sync going and data always on as well?
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Yes, gmail, facebook, etc... Remember that I said screen off, obviously screen on drain is considerably higher.
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Yes, gmail, facebook, etc... Remember that I said screen off, obviously screen on drain is considerably higher.
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Right, but background sync can still hit the battery, even with screen off. I was just curious.
Ive had days with horrible drain but it was almost always an app doing something dumb and keeping the phone awake, bad cell reception or a noisy wifi router. The trick being to identify wake locks that seem suspicious and track them down.
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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There is a free version of better battery stats on xda in the android section, just look for it. But, do consider supporting the dev, BBS is a great app.
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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You don't have to. Since you're an XDA member you can download it from here. Just search for it.
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You don't have to. Since you're an XDA member you can download it from here. Just search for it.
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It's always better for everybody to support the developer by purchasing it on the Play Store, I did it.
It's a thing of principles, if you support developers they will keep improving apps and making our lives more enjoyable with our beloved SG2.
Regards.
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It's always better for everybody to support the developer by purchasing it on the Play Store, I did it.
It's a thing of principles, if you support developers they will keep improving apps and making our lives more enjoyable with our beloved SG2.
Regards.
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I agree with you, I was just trying to help the guy out who was asking for it.
New to the galaxy note, any suggestions for roms with good battery life?
blackstar☆ and pawdan for me opinion you try for 2 or 3 day and see who like you
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I've tried every rom available here ...for the I717 ..
And "For Me"..
The best battery life comes from the following builds ..
Saurom ..GB 2.3.6 .....and ..
Flappjaxxx UCLF6 ICS Build #5.
But please remember, that I prefer zeam launcher, and use only a handful of apps and never Widgets.
You simply have to try the builds for yourself, and determine the best balance between performance and features.
But more importantly, the 717 runs best without overclock..IMHO ...and basically using a stock kernel.
Optimization of the build for the device is very important in maintaining a smooth and functional file structure....
That being said, I stick with slightly modified stock builds for the note, and I always disable the stock Touchwiz launcher, as I can confirm it's a battery hog.
But invariably, I feel that Samsung did an excellent job when optimizing GB, while ICS is larger and not as refined...and JB official will correct the ICS bugs.
We can only hope that Samsung releases the JB we see on the note 2....as it truly is an exceptional build.
Good luck in your flashing and optimization of the builds you choose ...g
BlackStar X did the trick for me. I also turned sync off and manually sync my email account. Turning data off also helps otherwise when screen is off battery keeps draining.
I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
ThE UnknowN
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
ThE UnknowN
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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The battery life is no different than any other DXLJ2 rom.
ThE UnknowN
All roms are exactly the same on battery life... That is until you've tested it on your device.
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Its how you use you phone and what you use on your phone that determines the battery life. From a development standpoint, there are minor changes that we can implement to improve battery duration. The difference will be negligible. You might notice an in increase in your battery, but again it won't be much.
ThE UnknowN
Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
quickbird144 said:
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
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You didn't offend me. Lmao. I probably know what Rom you are referring too. And I doubt its that it's better. I run all the roms and test them all. Pretty much the same all across the board. In the end it's the user who matters.So if you found a rom you belive is better for you battery wise, then kudos. Im glad you found a rom that works best for you.
ThE UnknowN
Right on.
Back to basics shall we.
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Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
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It also depends if you're using LTE. I should qualified my assertion with "just playing video using the hardware decoder".
I went I the play store and bought juice defender ultimate. Makes a big difference, well worth the money in my opinion.
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Here's a little story for ya.
I started out using Ginger stock, the interface felt sluggish coming from an iphone4 (wow I haven't typed "iphone" in such a long time, I feel weird!)
After mucho research, I went for the Eclipse rom. Ultra smooth, gotta love it. Like every other rom (so I've heard), I still get random reboot, but very few, about once a week and sometimes don't get it at all. Battery life is crazily good, loses about 4% overnight with "interactive governor". Music player always stop responding on first open. But I can live with that, just kill app and reopen and it's good to go. Overall, using the Eclipse rom has been a very nice experience.
Then I tried Novena (ICS rom I believe), the interface wasn't as smooth as JB, the battery also drains fast for some reason (yes I have turned off every option that could potentially drain the battery), so I moved on...
Then I tried JellyBeer, smooth just like Eclipse but with more options. However, the battery also drains pretty fast, why? I really don't know, played around for hours but still couldn't figure it out.
At last, I came back to Eclipse, everything is almost just how I want the phone to be.
In retrospect, I hit the jackpot on the first try. But it is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers.
You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
studacris said:
You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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Be a man, some works and some just don't. Your mileage may vary.
To quote myself:
"It is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers."
Thought this was worth sharing
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1957339277/run-android-apps-in-webos-on-the-hp-touchpad
I don't see the point in paying $30 to emulate android apps in an abandoned OS, when you can run android apps natively in a supported OS for free...
Take your point, but Webos is (in my view) pretty slick. The only thing missing is the apps.
Thanks for posting OP. I might just hang on to my HPTP, instead of selling it on.
Maxy
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looks like they met their goal.
The only thing going for Android for me are the apps. If the apps work well enough emulated in webOS, then I will be keeping my HP Touchpad!
30 dollars is still very expensive under my point of view...i hope people wont be dissapointed when the app will be released.
benru89 said:
30 dollars is still very expensive under my point of view...i hope people wont be dissapointed when the app will be released.
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Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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I see your point...but what i meant when i said i hope people wont be dissapointed, its because im afraid that the user experience with that software will never be close to what you can have with native android. The videos they posted shows pretty simple applications, and even there you can see there is a bit of lag....i hope people wont spend 30$ on this and then they will have to switch to android if they want to play games or use some other app that is too laggy on the webos side. But dont get me wrong, im the first one that would love to play android apps on webos, mostly because of the battery as you said, but not in exchange of a poor user experience like lags etc...
Bwangster12 said:
Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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After I fixed the standby battery drain, I tested and got 21 days of standby time. This fix is included in the latest available CM9 and CM10.
Note that this was with (practically) no apps installed. So adding apps that wakeup the TP will decrease that time, but it's MUCH improved.
jcsullins said:
After I fixed the standby battery drain, I tested and got 21 days of standby time. This fix is included in the latest available CM9 and CM10.
Note that this was with (practically) no apps installed. So adding apps that wakeup the TP will decrease that time, but it's MUCH improved.
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I've uninstalled as many apps as I don't think I NEED. Also, did you run with location services on? I turned off syncing for basically everything to try and see if I can get better battery life.
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I've uninstalled as many apps as I don't think I NEED. Also, did you run with location services on? I turned off syncing for basically everything to try and see if I can get better battery life.
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I don't remember if location services was on or off. Probably off.
I suggest reading through this thread: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39743-touchpad-battery-drain-issues-how-flashing-a6-firmware-can-help/
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I don't remember if location services was on or off. Probably off.
I suggest reading through this thread: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39743-touchpad-battery-drain-issues-how-flashing-a6-firmware-can-help/
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Believe me... I lived in that thread for a period of time. Is that something that will get baked into the rom going forward so we don't have to worry about reflashing it periodically?
Bwangster12 said:
Well, I look at it this way. If someone told you that you could spend $30ish bucks to go from about a day and a half battery life to about a week battery life, would you do it? That's basically what happens if you stop using Android and start using WebOS. Like previous poster said... only missing the Android apps.
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I have been using Greenify to help nail down the programs that wake the system all the time and my battery life has improved even more.
This capability in WebOS might be good if it is fully supported by the application developers or a way to work around the unsupported hardware issue. At this point there has been a bunch of development in CM for Touchpad and not really a need for WebOS especially without the core updates and support we are getting from Android/Google.
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There have been delays to this project, but the pre-release beta is now in the hands of testers.
Reports are mixed, but generally positive. Problems mainly involve installation issues, but generally it is being reported to work quite well.
forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-51.html#post3404690
webOS with Android apps seems to have (almost) arrived.
Yep, heard about these recents updates from a post from jshafer817:
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Anyone seen this?
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-58.html
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Seems promising :highfive:
When is this damn app getting released!! I really love using WebOS and running Android apps in it would be perfect.
I'm getting very poor battery life with my Note 4, which seems to be much worse since a recent update. When I first got the phone a few months ago the battery life was fantastic but now it's almost as bad as my old Moto G2!
I get up in the morning and over a couple of hours spend a bit of time (not constantly for 2 hours) on WiFi checking e-mail, social media, etc. and my battery goes from 100% to 70%. Then I don't use the phone, go out for about an hour listening to Spotify music (offline) using my BT earbuds and when I get home it's down to 40%.
As you can see from the screenshots, it doesn't seem to be the apps I'm using that are draining the battery as "Android system" is responsible for 74% of the battery use. This has maybe 50 packages listed under it, so I think it will be rather hard to identify which one is responsible.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
Are you using MTK or SD?
doveman said:
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
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Dont use MIUI, that's a good start. (hopefully you have Snapdragon variant otherwise you're screwed)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ical-world-t3778813/post76596539#post76596539
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Are you using MTK or SD?
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I can't remember how to check but I'm 99% sure it's SD. It's mido if that proves anything.
I installed Greenify and hibernated a few things and that's helped a bit, although it's still not brilliant. I also installed Amplify but the results don't mean anything to me, so I've attached some screenshots in case anything stands out (more in next post due to max.4)
Remaining screenshots.
k3lcior said:
Dont use MIUI, that's a good start. (hopefully you have Snapdragon variant otherwise you're screwed)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ical-world-t3778813/post76596539#post76596539
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Yeah I've been thinking of changing ROM tbh. Something that annoys me about MIUI is it only allows you to enter a numeric decryption code on boot. I know how to set it to something different than the unlock code and normally use an alpha-numeric code but that's not an option with MIUI as I wouldn't be able to enter it!
I have App Quarantine installed so I was thinking I could try freezing certain system/MIUI apps but if I'm going to change ROM I guess it's not really worth it. The problem I have is choosing a ROM, as there's so many and battery life, whilst important, isn't the only thing that matters to me. The decryption code thing is important, as is full dual-SIM functionality. OTA upgrades is one thing that MIUI has in it's favour and I guess that's not an option with third-party ROMS but upgrades being made available in a way that they can be installed without wiping the phone would be nice, if possible. Dual apps, Second space and Call/SMS blocklist are all quite handy features in MIUI too.
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The problem I have is choosing a ROM, as there's so many and battery life, whilst important, isn't the only thing that matters to me.
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MiracleDROID, give it a go, it's one of the better ROM's i have used on Mido very underrated.
Or OmniROM if you want weekly OTA (Delta updates) just like in MIUI.
And dont expect miracles right after flashing it, give it atleast 1 charging cycle to settle.
Same problem with me .. Battery temperature goes to 41 degree ++ and after night I have to see my low battery