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So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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The update patches all known root exploits, meaning you probably won't lose root but will lose the ability to re-root should something happen. My advice, just wait til you're ready to flash a custom ROM which will likely already have the update cooked into it without any possible negative side effects.
I would wait until people confirm if it takes away root, etc... In general with a rooted phone OTA updates are a NO. Wait until someone posts a rooted version in here.
Oh and one more thing... don't ever post in the development section, Q&A section is your friend.
Once u root do not ever take any ota updates. It's been stated multiple times. If u want the update just wait and there are 100% stock roms with updates usually within a day or two of the ota update. Either u want to move foward with ur rooted device and flash roms, even if it is stock, or stick with what u got. If u can root ur own phone flashing roms isn't anything to worry about.
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mustang_52 said:
So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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As far as I know you wont be able to install OTA on rooted device.
Ok. I wasn't sure if anyone was working on a stock rom but ill wait. Is there any roms you guys recommend that are stock looking but worth running? Also I will use the q & a forum next time. I thought since this dealt with root and roms this would be the place. Sorry.
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I heard that u should ineligible take the update and root again.
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For some reason when i got my new device a day ago hboot is 1.5 and i did the OTA security update, with the method below i was able to flash Custom ROM and Kernel
sidenote: if you dont flash the kernel i posted below you wont have wifi or 4G
(S-on but still able to flash anyROM with your eyes close)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Kernel
(with this kernel i was able to flash to get everything working, without it you wont have Wifi or 4g fyi)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
I Hope this help... Thank me later!!
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The update patches all known root exploits
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I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
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I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
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No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321452
mwalt2 just uploaded this =] gunna try out and see whats up with the update
mustang_52 said:
So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
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The update doesn't contain an HBOOT. It has a new recovery, removes and patches/updates some things in /system, and has an updated boot.img. I suppose it does check to see if you are on the latest ROM (2.08.651.2, which is the one that patches AlphaRev's s-off method) before it will install though. By itself, the update will either fail to install (probably if you don't have HBOOT 1.5 or a custom ROM) or it will install and you'll be just fine using root once you change permissions on the su directory.
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Just a question will I need to be unrooted to receive and or download/ install the ICS upgrade when it is made available?
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From what I recall, you need to relock the bootloader to install OTA updates... So, I would assume you would need at least to relock the bootloader if they do not give us a zip to upgrade to ICS... And even then, to update from zip, you have to relock the bootloader, it will also delete your superuser on the rom, so you will lose root. It will probably also overwrite your recovery at the same time, so in the end, it's best to relock the bootloader before you upgrade to OTA to prevent it from bricking your phone.
With the last update we did not have to relock our bootloader however we did need the stock recovery. We've only had one OTA update since we've obtained root so it's difficult to say what a totally new build will require.
In most cases with various different phones, you can download the OTA to the phone but it will not install if the /system partition has been modified and you have a custom recovery installed. In order to properly update with an OTA, the ROM would need to be returned to stock and you would need to flash the stock recovery back to the phone as the OTA does checks against the system to ensure it's okay to flash. You do not have to be relocked in order to install it, however.
The best idea would be to wait until the OTA has been modified to ignore /system modifications and can be flashed using CWM, but of course that takes a little time until it is available.
I found the Stock Roms forum but will that relock my boot loader as well. I'm thinking it won't but doesn't hurt to ask.
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I found the Stock Roms forum but will that relock my boot loader as well. I'm thinking it won't but doesn't hurt to ask.
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No, the only ways to relock the bootloader is to run the Relocker script in the dev forum, or manually type "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot. Flashing ROMs will not relock the phone for you.
However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
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However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
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Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
Felinos11 said:
Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
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You must relock the bootloader to flash the RUU file.
i think i will wait until one of the developers or x makes a ota rooted build, usually when all the major ota comes somebody makes a rooted flash leak about it,
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No, the only ways to relock the bootloader is to run the Relocker script in the dev forum, or manually type "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot. Flashing ROMs will not relock the phone for you.
However, it is worth noting that you cannot flash the official stock ROMs without having the phone relocked first.
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Thank You!
Felinos11 said:
Not true. we did flash the stock roms the last time ota update came out and we didnt relock the bootloader. it only required to have stock recovery because you lose root once you flash the stock rom.
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I can assure you that you did not. What I'm talking about is the RUU stock ROM file. But the point is moot because you're wrong.
Hi everyone,
I just s/w HTC customer service today about the ICS 4.0.x update & Sense x.x update.
Well, customer service has told me that they are working on the release of ICS for the Amaze 4G, our phone.
The customer service rep stated "1st quarter of this year."
Sorry I couldn't squeeze more info. out!
Enjoy........Until another Google forced phone & OS comes out! $$$$
stefnuts said:
Hi everyone,
I just s/w HTC customer service today about the ICS 4.0.x update & Sense x.x update.
Well, customer service has told me that they are working on the release of ICS for the Amaze 4G, our phone.
The customer service rep stated "1st quarter of this year."
Sorry I couldn't squeeze more info. out!
Enjoy........Until another Google forced phone & OS comes out! $$$$
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I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
jkozan said:
Just a question will I need to be unrooted to receive and or download/ install the ICS upgrade when it is made available?
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Nah. XBoarder56 will have it for us before tmo does Support our Devs
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TramainM said:
I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
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How dare you use your sister for your evil deeds!!! Lol
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fuego77 said:
How dare you use your sister for your evil deeds!!! Lol
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Easy a script, Q cards, and 10 bucks =D
TramainM said:
I squeezed out February out of the rep I was talking too. Having a little sister with a cute voice comes in handy
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go on....
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LOL.......
o crap we literally had the same exact thread started after this ....why was two necessary? I answered exactly the same way as binary!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484426
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
fenguepay said:
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
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what ota? in case you didn't notice it never came.
I mean the future one
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anyone?
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
yojoe600 said:
if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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werdna87 said:
Not if he's not on stock though right?
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
I do not understand why you would want to unroot and unlock to get the OTA "when released". In about a day after it is released I am sure a Dev will have a flash-able version posted.
Maybe but since we don't have s-off don't we have to relock to flash the new firmware and radios? Hopefully we have s-off before official update comes.
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qudwis said:
right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
guyd said:
I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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werdna87 said:
Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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You will not get the ota on a custom Rom
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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Wierd, I read a few posts in another topic that said you had to be locked or relocked in order for the new radio to flash...
What about me?
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
You will not get the OTA if you are rooted, that's for sure. If it's the stock ROM, you'll get the option to update, but it'll fail during the installation. I've seen it happen on a few HTC devices and even my rooted Xyboard tablet lol. But, just to be safe if you DO want the OTA, install the stock ROM (If you're on an ICS ROM, you're going to have a tough time getting back to stock. It's bricked a lot of people's phones. You have to restore the firmware yourself, I think.) and relock your bootloader. Don't be worried if it says **Security Warning** this simply means that your bootloader has been unlocked at one point in time.
Just make sure your phone is on a stock, non-rooted ROM with your phone locked to make sure you have no issues. Better safe than sorry.
lol?
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Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
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I returned a rezound with cleanrom in it.... XD. probably not urs but jsut a question.... is the menu button dim compared to the others?
relock/unlock
You do not need s-off to relock. I unlocked and installed scotts cleanrom. I then a month later relocked installed the leaked OTA ICS update so i could have the new radios. Then unlocked again and installed the cleanrom DE senseless yesterday and i am loving it btw! I get decent battery too (13+ hours with moderate use)!
Hey, Seems like Videotron is lazy when it comes to updating their user to the latest OS.
My friend has this phone and since I know a lot when it comes to do simple things like flashing roms and kernel, he wanted me to help him to update his phone. Thing is, I can't get, for the love of Morgan Freeman (AKA god), to S-Off his Amaze 4G. So I'll try the alternative since he doesn't need anything fancy other than the regular stuff.
I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
So what can I do about that?
And something else too, the last time I updated from OTA, it was when I received my Nexus S so I don't know if it factory resets and I need to create some backup in case.
You will HAVE to s-off if you want to update via another carriers ICS rom file, it's not possible with s-on, check the pin hole on his amaze, you may have to take a sharp pin and dig inside of it a bit, there seems to be a plastic covering it at times. Try s-off again after that, use a a paper clip with some tape insulating it, it works really great compared to wires. S-offed an evo 3d on the very first try today using one.
Okay, cool. Thanks for tips I will try it out.
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qu3becker said:
Okay, cool. Thanks for tips I will try it out.
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You're welcome, nice Kirby avatar, used to love that game back on my GBA.
i tried with a wire for almost an hour. first try with the paper clip and i got it. very easy to do
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I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
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This part is still unanswered and as I am in the same situation I ask the same question
I don't think the phone carrier matters once s-off since we usually don't flash the radio but especially for OTA upgrades maybe you have to be superCID and/or use a carrier that uses the same frequencies, 1700/2100 in Videotron's case?
Are there any other crucial differences than the radio between one carrier and another? Do we absolutely need to go by the OTA of another carrier to get to ICS or is there a way to flash any ICS based ROM and fix it manually after? I searched that but I can't even find the question asked... If we can't, then why? What are the modified parts from stock GB to stock ICS on the same carrier?
Maybe should I start a new question thread... Does xda uses that one question per thread rule? Don't remember to have seen it in the rules.
Thanks in advance!
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This part is still unanswered and as I am in the same situation I ask the same question
I don't think the phone carrier matters once s-off since we usually don't flash the radio but especially for OTA upgrades maybe you have to be superCID and/or use a carrier that uses the same frequencies, 1700/2100 in Videotron's case?
Are there any other crucial differences than the radio between one carrier and another? Do we absolutely need to go by the OTA of another carrier to get to ICS or is there a way to flash any ICS based ROM and fix it manually after? I searched that but I can't even find the question asked... If we can't, then why? What are the modified parts from stock GB to stock ICS on the same carrier?
Maybe should I start a new question thread... Does xda uses that one question per thread rule? Don't remember to have seen it in the rules.
Thanks in advance!
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All amaze devices basically have the same band, all the carriers we have here use the same band, so the choice of software is upto you since they basically have the same options, the only exception being T-Mobile, they are the only carrier that add in their own apps and modify a few things about the firmware and thanks to the htc/apple issue they changed the app association as well, so if you want the pure software with everything stock HTC the way it would be on an international version, then the Telus option would be best for you.
Good for the carrier specific software. Or in this case the absence of specificity
One detail is that Videotron installs a single app it's called "Portail Videotron" for renting and stream movies over the 4G network, a good way to have users using an enormous amount of data. But as long as the radio that comes with the Telus ROM is the same this app wich I don't even use I really don't care.
Will start a new thread for the other questions. Or won't if you think it won't be useful.
qu3becker said:
Hey, Seems like Videotron is lazy when it comes to updating their user to the latest OS.
My friend has this phone and since I know a lot when it comes to do simple things like flashing roms and kernel, he wanted me to help him to update his phone. Thing is, I can't get, for the love of Morgan Freeman (AKA god), to S-Off his Amaze 4G. So I'll try the alternative since he doesn't need anything fancy other than the regular stuff.
I know that I can flash manually the OTA for carriers that has it but I don't know if I should try a Telus, T-Mobile rom and so on.
So what can I do about that?
And something else too, the last time I updated from OTA, it was when I received my Nexus S so I don't know if it factory resets and I need to create some backup in case.
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Videotron already started on july 1 there ics update. It's a question of time that all the servers have the update. Some already have it.
johnride said:
Good for the carrier specific software. Or in this case the absence of specificity
One detail is that Videotron installs a single app it's called "Portail Videotron" for renting and stream movies over the 4G network, a good way to have users using an enormous amount of data. But as long as the radio that comes with the Telus ROM is the same this app wich I don't even use I really don't care.
Will start a new thread for the other questions. Or won't if you think it won't be useful.
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You started asking here, so ask all others here to save threads.
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rouiz said:
Videotron already started on july 1 there ics update. It's a question of time that all the servers have the update. Some already have it.
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If someone from videotron can pull the OTA file from their device he can update manually.
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You started asking here, so ask all others here to save threads.
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If someone from videotron can pull the OTA file from their device he can update manually.
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Ok so my questions are basically already in my first post. It is not that I don't understand the procedure to upgrade to ICS by dl the OTA, rename it to PH85IMG.zip and let hboot do the rest, it is just that I would like to be free to go back and forth between GB and ICS as I have always did with other phones. I can't see wich part of the system can be modified only by the OTA and not manually.
Edit: one may find it useless, it is just that I dislike much to be dependent on the OTA's
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Ok so my questions are basically already in my first post. It is not that I don't understand the procedure to upgrade to ICS by dl the OTA, rename it to PH85IMG.zip and let hboot do the rest, it is just that I would like to be free to go back and forth between GB and ICS as I have always did with other phones. I can't see wich part of the system can be modified only by the OTA and not manually.
Edit: one may find it useless, it is just that I dislike much to be dependent on the OTA's
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Due to signatures and encryption and in the cases of the things we just don't wanna touch like the radio, it's risky to mess with things like the radio and since we don't have a PH85IMG for every carrier like we do for tmobile we have to depend on the OTA files, in order for you to switch between GB and ICS as you wish you will have to s-off, that's the only way. Once you're s-off and super cid, you can upgrade, downgrade, swap hboots, swap roms, try out other carrier roms, all without restrictions.
Ok I tried to flash ICS EnergyRom with s-off, now that I am supercid I try once again.
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Ok I tried to flash ICS EnergyRom with s-off, now that I am supercid I try once again.
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Make sure you update your device to ICS first before you flash a custom rom, certain background files like radio, hboot etc have to be the ICS version for it to work.
That is what I don't like... But just to make it clear, with ICS version of hboot radio etc both GB and ICS are supported while with GB version ICS is not?
For now I feel a bit lazy so I will use the usual way and will look back at this at some moment.
Thanks
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That is what I don't like... But just to make it clear, with ICS version of hboot radio etc both GB and ICS are supported while with GB version ICS is not?
For now I feel a bit lazy so I will use the usual way and will look back at this at some moment.
Thanks
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If you still need the update :
d-h.st/VMk
OTA_RUBY_ICS_35_S_Videotron_CA_2.14.1530.6-1.46.1530.1_R2_release_2630972v8tnj4gaksgm0w5
original rom
Hi there,
is someone can help me out? I need an original HTC Amaze videotron ROM. I tried the RUU.exe, but it's not working. I can't install the .exe, even if I'm in recovery mode.
Thanks!
Clouter said:
Hi there,
is someone can help me out? I need an original HTC Amaze videotron ROM. I tried the RUU.exe, but it's not working. I can't install the .exe, even if I'm in recovery mode.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25761360
The Videotron RUU is supposed to work. You have to be in the bootloader wich you can access by removing your battery and then vol-down + power, relocked (not in recovery). I don't know if it has to be stock CID, don't think so.
johnride said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25761360
The Videotron RUU is supposed to work. You have to be in the bootloader wich you can access by removing your battery and then vol-down + power, relocked (not in recovery). I don't know if it has to be stock CID, don't think so.
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That RUU is GB, not ICS since nobody every pulled the ICS OTA file, I don't have an amaze anymore to pull it so if any of you are on GB, kindly pull the file for other users.
Updating hboot only
How can I update only the hboot? And would an hboot from a different Canadian carrier still work? e.g. hboot from Telus and rom from Wind Mobile...
Thanks in advance...
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
Rxpert said:
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
Rxpert said:
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
SoraX64 said:
Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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